The Comms Room

Lucas Kauffman

19:01

I hate it when manufacturers use magic sauce for decompressing LZMA

Joel E Salas

@LucasKauffman Example?

Lucas Kauffman

@JoelESalas zyxel, was reversing firmware

divergentdave.github.io/nsa-o-matic

freiheit

@Dan look at the URL, not the http_host.

Dan

@freiheit Ah..!

(I don't do this shit normally, by the way!)

freiheit

@Dan That'll be one bottle of single malt please.

Dan

19:08

@freiheit It works, you're a star!

Your single malt is here waiting for you, collection only though

Lucas Kauffman

@Dan Oh ehm, can you otherwise send that to my house, Freiheit will come and pick it up there. He told me to tell you that.

Dan

@LucasKauffman No. Liar.

Lucas Kauffman

@Dan but but but, it could sit there and wait with some of its friends like Laphroaig, MacAllan, Abunad'h, Oban, Glenngrant, his Irish cousins Bushmills and Connemera and that japanese exchange student Taketsuru

and Glenmorangie and Highland park might come over to visit!

freiheit

@Dan I think the fact that it actually worked should totally cover shipping. "Eric / IT / 1801 East Cotati Ave / 94928-3609 / US". Something from Islay, like a nice Bruichladdich or Port Charlotte would be ideal, but I'm not picky, as long as it's single malt... ;)

Lucas Kauffman

@freiheit do you want something peaty, soft or intense?

freiheit

19:15

@LucasKauffman peaty and intense

Lucas Kauffman

Laphroaig it is

or an ardbeg uigeadail

freiheit

I actually find that i tend to prefer 6 to 10 year old whiskies over older ones. They mellow and lose character when they're older.

Bruichladdich Octomore!

Lucas Kauffman

@freiheit depends actually, some high alcohol whisky's can be quite strong

Iain

@LucasKauffman There is a nice café at the Ardbeg distillery, pity the distillate is very meh

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain I'm going to try and do a whisky tour in Scottland during spring

from one distillery to another

Iain

19:19

@LucasKauffman Ardbeg, Laphroaig and Lagavulin are all within about a mile of each other

Lucas Kauffman

excellent

one square foot to be exact.

I even have a patch of land there

MDMarra

You guys should try that

mossy

coworker made me a new profile pic. What do you guys think?

Lucas Kauffman

@MDMarra is this like your lite beer?

MDMarra

hahaha

Ry Jones

19:20

@MDMarra I have, it is not good

MDMarra

@RyJones you must have missed it yesterday. Everyone was talking about high end trappist beers and I posted a miller lite can

Lucas Kauffman

@mossy It's really sexy. I really like it. Might print it off and save it for later...

MDMarra

Just keeping it alive

freiheit

@MDMarra I've had similar moonshiney type things before. I think one was a mix of corn and sugar. They're ... uhm... kinda interesting, I guess...

Ry Jones

@MDMarra oh well. There's always room at the bottom.

MDMarra

19:22

I actually don't drink that much any more, so when I do it's good

Iain

@LucasKauffman Laphroaig is the best tour - they let you get close to things and encourage you to walk on the malt and in the smoker etc

MDMarra

The only beer in my fridge right now is a bottle of red Chimay and a bottle of three philosophers

voretaq7

@Iain ...that's why that last bottle tasted like feet!

:)

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain They've also got an awesome community online, 10% discount by default and another 10% discount on your birthday

Joel E Salas

So let's say you write a library for a web framework, how do you do acceptance testing of that library?

voretaq7

19:23

@mossy Tits or GTFO :-)

MDMarra

@JoelESalas weeoooweeooo dev alert dev alert weeoooweeooo

On a constructive note - no idea.

Joel E Salas

I hate that alert ;_;

voretaq7

@JoelESalas Deploy it. If the users accept it, it passed. devops

Lucas Kauffman

@JoelESalas you basically push it from test to acceptance and let users interact with it. You then also contact a pentest team to validate that your library is secure.

mossy

Joel E Salas

19:24

@LucasKauffman But it's just a library, it doesn't exist in the context of an application

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman pen....test.... those are the people who scribble on post-it notes with all the new pens and throw out the ones that don't write?

Joel E Salas

You'd have to deploy it inside of an application for an automated acceptance test to be meaningful

Lucas Kauffman

@JoelESalas what's the point of the library then?

@voretaq7 yes.

Joel E Salas

@LucasKauffman Well you're going to reuse it INSIDE of applications

and you can unit test the heck out of it, but again, not meaningful unless there are acceptance tests

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman We need to hire some of those people. (Not for me, I have my own pens, but when I'm at someone else's desk? UGH.)

Lucas Kauffman

19:26

@JoelESalas so it will be used by an app?

Joel E Salas

@LucasKauffman oF COURSE

Lucas Kauffman

@JoelESalas then deploy it within that app

in acceptance

Iain

@LucasKauffman They will even give you a piece of land and lend you wellingtons to go plant a flag in it - still tastes shit though

voretaq7

@JoelESalas you can't "acceptance test" a library -- you can unit test it, then you give it to the developers to write test apps with and they do the acceptance (or rejection) bit.

Ry Jones

this is going on outside my office: seahawks.com/schedule/event/…

Lucas Kauffman

19:27

@Iain awesome

Ry Jones

they've been screaming since about 10:30

Joel E Salas

@voretaq7 I guess you'd have to build confidence in some other way

MDMarra

@RyJones Seahawks fans are really loud

voretaq7

@JoelESalas through unit tests that prove correct behavior :)

Ry Jones

@MDMarra yes

MDMarra

19:27

All those years of terrible frustration finally coming out, I imagine

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 if you ever need a pentester, please let me know. We at EY can always help you with that.

voretaq7

@RyJones dare you to lean out the window and scream "SEAHAWKS SUCK!"

Joel E Salas

@voretaq7 In isolation, technically yes

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 did you ever see our biggest marketing mishap ever?

voretaq7

@JoelESalas you can't test interaction without a surrounding application

@LucasKauffman did it involve Astroglide?

MDMarra

19:28

@JoelESalas do you work in QA now?

Joel E Salas

@LucasKauffman Oh man what was it

@MDMarra No? My job is to make sure software goes out and is good

Ry Jones

@voretaq7 I'd have to punch out glass on the 15th floor - no thanks

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 Close, go to google and type in EY, then go to images.

voretaq7

"Penetration testing with style"

@RyJones Pussy.

MDMarra

@JoelESalas Do you have dedicated QA engineers?

Joel E Salas

19:29

@MDMarra We have testers. We need QA engineers

MDMarra

Ah

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman the model with the exceptionally bad hair?

MDMarra

@JoelESalas I was trying to figure out why you care about it so much

If you're writing the library, you shouldnt be concerned about QA

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra Because CI is pointless without automated acceptance tests

MDMarra

unless, of course, you dont have QA engineers

Joel E Salas

19:30

@MDMarra I strongly disagree with that sentiment

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 do you have safe search on?

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman nope

Clearly marketing neglected to cross-check the brand change though

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 you don't see a bunch of naked boys?

@voretaq7 exactly

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman shirtless isn't naked.

MDMarra

@JoelESalas If you have dedicated QA engineers, then it's not your problem to solve, is all I was saying.

But since you don't, I now understand why you care

Iain

19:31

@LucasKauffman The community stuff is just marketing - when all is said and done the 3 I mentioned earlier all use the same water, peat, and maltings so they have to have something to differentiate themselves with

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra I'm not quite a rank-and-file engineer here, I'm leading the CI/CD charge so I have to care rain or shine

voretaq7

@Iain You wanna sell whisky on the internet you damn well best be putting it in a kitten-shaped bottle.

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain still a laphroaig has a more intense taste than an Ardbeg

MDMarra

@JoelESalas Well, check out the brains on Brad.

Iain

@LucasKauffman it's all too intense for me - I prefer the speyside styles

Lucas Kauffman

19:33

@Iain Aberlour?

voretaq7

@Iain I find islays are better if you throw a splash of water in them

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain Or McAlan?

voretaq7

or at least subjectively I like them better

Lucas Kauffman

I really love McAlan

tbh Irish whiskys aren't bad either

@Iain if you like speyside whisky you should try Bushmills

Iain

@LucasKauffman Balvenie, Glenmorangie, Tobermory

Lucas Kauffman

19:36

@Iain I've never had a Tobermory

might pick up a bottle

ever since I started working I bought 1 bottle a month

Iain

What's interesting in jailbreak land for iPAD1's ?

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain redsn0w

redsn0w.us

Iain

that's to jailbreak it - what's interesting after that ?

Lucas Kauffman

@Iain Cydia

Matt Bear

yay for patch day!

Lucas Kauffman

19:41

@Iain you can add some repos and install all the GNU stuff

@Iain note that you are exposing yourself to malware though

voretaq7

Have you read FIPS 140-2? If not, start there. — voretaq7 14 secs ago

I. Want. To. HIT. People.

@LucasKauffman @Iain you're also making TheSteve's ghost cry.

Ry Jones

I bought a FIPS-201 badge holder, the range at which it cuts readability for prox cards is awesome

Joel E Salas

@MDMarra big brain on Brett

voretaq7

Everyone should go upvote my answer on that. I like getting rep for LITERALLY CUTTING AND PASTING FROM A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT :-P

@RyJones fuck that, wrap the badge in tin foil :-P

MDMarra

@JoelESalas Wait, it's Brett?

I thought it was Brad

voretaq7

19:52

@MDMarra B.*

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 link me

nvm

+1

voretaq7

Yaaaay! Cut-and-Paste rep is the best kind of rep!

Lucas Kauffman

@voretaq7 I have one like that on SSL security.stackexchange.com/questions/13453/…

MDMarra

Check out the big brain on [B(.*)]

wait thats not right

fuck it, pretend it's right

Lucas Kauffman

got to love nespresso

Michael Hampton

19:57

Google Schemer is going away. Did anyone ever use that?

Lucas Kauffman

@MichaelHampton what's that?

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman Reciprocal Upvote Ring -- ACTIVATE

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton Is that their web-based tool for developing plans to conquer the world?

84104

@MichaelHampton What will we put on our Google bagels now?

Michael Hampton

I guess that answers that!

MDMarra

19:58

@MichaelHampton Never even heard of it

Iain

@MDMarra I guess that's why it's going away

MDMarra

Anyone into board games?

Lucas Kauffman

@MDMarra yep

MDMarra

Ever play Trains?

Iain

I have a few

voretaq7

20:00

hah. and I'm still getting rep for this

Iain

@MDMarra not by that name

Lucas Kauffman

@MDMarra is that where you need to construct a railroad?

MDMarra

It takes place in Japan

There's also a game about trains called Ticket to Ride but that's not the one I'm talking about

Lucas Kauffman

@MDMarra ah no I mean Ticket to Ride

Iain

I've got The Great Game Of Britain

which is a train game

MDMarra

20:01

@LucasKauffman This is more like half deckbuilding half boardgame

My brother-in-law showed it to me last weekend, it was probably the most fun I've had at a board game in a long time

Iain

@MDMarra got a link ?

MDMarra

He said he had to order it online, let me see if I can find it

amazon.com/Alderac-Entertainment-Group-5801AEG-Trains/dp/…

It's nice because there are like 8 starting cards that you use that are always the same, but then there are 8 that you choose randomly out of 16 (I think) at the start of the game, so no two games are the same

And the board has two sides, Osaka and somewhere else that we didn't play. So you have two possible boards to play on as well

Iain

Think I'll order it

MDMarra

Lots of fun decisions to make too. Almost anything you do gives you a "waste" card that does literally nothing, so the more actions you take, the more chance you have of drawing dead cards on your turn. So it makes you evaluate your actions carefully

I must have played 5 games of it on Sunday

Iain

We play a lot of card games here too - Newmarket, El Presidente, Oh Hell being our favourites

MDMarra

20:07

I haven't heard of them. I need to do some research

All of my knowledge of these things is through my brother-in-law. If he hasn't shown it to me after Sunday dinner, I don't know about it. I'll check them out, maybe I can surprise him

Iain

@MDMarra Newmarket is the easiest to learn and play

MDMarra

amazon.com/Indie-Boards-Cards-RES2IBC-Resistance/dp/B008A2BA8G/…

Thats a fun card game we play with 6-7 of us from time to time

Iain

@MDMarra uk.ask.com/question/how-do-you-play-newmarket that's a reasonable explanation

MDMarra

@Iain cool, thanks. I'll check it out.

Iain

Jayne and I also play Cribbage occasionally

Nathan C

20:13

@MDMarra It'd be cool if someone computerized Trains ...online multiplayer :P

MDMarra

Yep

Iain

@MDMarra Oh Hell pagat.com/exact/ohhell.html

You really need to play El Pres to get the hang of it

Lucas Kauffman

this internet connection sucks monkey balls at this hotel

3

voretaq7

@LucasKauffman could be worse. It could be sucking donkey balls.

Lucas Kauffman

86 packets transmitted, 9 received, 89% packet loss, time 85111ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 18.910/39.022/122.616/30.872 ms

3

fucksake

voretaq7

20:22

@LucasKauffman impressive

Iain

@LucasKauffman my home connection was like that recently. The engineer came out and tracked it down to a junction box sitting in a pool of water

voretaq7

@Iain "Birds nesting in the termination block. No, really, here's the nest we pulled out!"

Scott Pack

@voretaq7 Is that really worse?

Lucas Kauffman

I want to drink a beer

but I don't want to go bankrupt

dillemas

voretaq7

@ScottPack I imagine monkeys don't shit on their balls...

kce

20:35

I don't speak German but who wants to work for pizza.de?
http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/46387/system-netzwerkadministrator-m-w-schwerpunkt-pizza-de-gmbh?a=UzBvXT3O

Lucas Kauffman

@kce do they give free pizzas?

Receiving objects: 39% (66/168), 2.54 MiB | 11 KiB/s

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT

Dennis Kaarsemaker

3

10 points for the one who spots it...

and I'm counting on the english here :)

kce

@LucasKauffman - That better be a perk!

Lucas Kauffman

@DennisKaarsemaker nope

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 12 hours or so. The brain tumor must have grown back.

voretaq7

20:43

@HopelessN00b these things happen

@DennisKaarsemaker Made glorious summer by these Coleman heaters.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@voretaq7 10 points to the brony :)

voretaq7

@DennisKaarsemaker I'm not a brony any more than Pauska is a lesbian! :)

Lucas Kauffman

@DennisKaarsemaker I don't get it :(

MikeyB

much butter. so hot. nice buns. bbs.boingboing.net/t/bread-porn/19468

HopelessN00b

The Winter of Our Discontent

The Winter of Our Discontent is John Steinbeck's last novel, published in 1961. The title is a reference to the first two lines of William Shakespeare's Richard III: "Now is the winter of our discontent / Made glorious summer by this sun [or son] of York," . Plot summary The story concerns mainly Ethan Allen Hawley, a former member of Long Island's aristocratic class. Ethan's late father has lost his family's fortune, and, consequently, Ethan now works as a clerk in a grocery store. His wife Mary and children resent their mediocre social and economic status, and do not value the honest...

Falcon Momot

20:48

"Now is the winter of our discontent. Made glorious summer by this sun of York; And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house."

yes

HopelessN00b

the first two lines of William Shakespeare's Richard III: "Now is the winter of our discontent / Made glorious summer by this sun [or son] of York,

voretaq7

TODO: Rewrite Richard III in the context of a sporting goods store holding a sale.

Falcon Momot

It also looks like it might be shopped.

Chris K

@LucasKauffman my office gal's husband brewed us a beer for work. And brought in the kegerator. All I had to do was go to Air-Gas to get a 5# CO<sub>2</sub> bottle...

voretaq7

@FalconMomot can't tell. It's all JPEG-y and Artifact-y. Could be shopped, could just be a shit photo :)

Falcon Momot

20:50

yeah... but the text seems to not be quite level, and is a little skewed in an unnatural way. who knows?

MDMarra

Woah a new Chris!

Falcon Momot

anyway, to the shower and also to work.

Chris K

yanc

voretaq7

@ChrisK Hah. Your HTML has no power here, foul sorcerer!

Chris K

I see that. :P How do I insert a pic?

voretaq7

20:51

there's an upload button next to the send button

Chris K

How's that for sorcerey? !

Falcon Momot

@ChrisK is that a honda civic, with an automatic transmission but also a tachometer? for shame.

MDMarra

@ChrisK Please exit my car

Chris K

Yup... forced to do it. Natural Gas civic... $2/gallon, 40+ mpg at 80, and solo HOV lane sitckers!!!

Falcon Momot

and undying shame

voretaq7

20:52

@ChrisK ...but you can't fill the tank anywhere.

Chris K

There's an app for that.

Falcon Momot

does that car come with a paper bag to put over your head while you drive it? :P

Chris K

Eh, I road raced motorcycles ... won races & won a champeenship. My ego's OK.

Got a V8 ng van for work... cost less to drive that guzzler than my Scion, so it had to go.

Basil

Can anyone see the error of my ways? push @hexOutput, sprintf("%04X",$_) =~ s/(.{2})/1:/; (perl)

MDMarra

Yeah, (perl)

Basil

20:55

heh

Chris K

Hey if any of y'all have experience with hp switches, i'd really appreciate a once over on my question on network engineering... with a clear-ish goal, I'll be more motivated to work on the damn thing rather than sunbathe & drink from my keg.

@MDMarra ~giggle~

voretaq7

@MDMarra FuckYeahPerl.tumblr.com ?

Basil

I play the hand I'm dealt

MDMarra

@ChrisK @ewwhite uses them a lot

Chris K

@voretaq7 mmmmm swirly balls on that link

Basil

20:56

@voretaq7 great, that's a 404 I didn't want

Chris K

@Basil buuuuut the swirly ballz... mesmorizing

Lucas Kauffman

say guys did Chopper change jobs?

voretaq7

@Basil the tumblr 404s are semirandom

reload for a different one

Basil

You know how we tease devops types about giving root to devs? I'm going in from the other side. I'm going to start describing this as either opsdev or perlops.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@voretaq7 s/Yeah//

MikeyB

20:57

@Basil Damn, @MDMarra beat me to it.

Chris K

@Basil I'm giving myself a whole vlan at my work for devops. But I'm the ownerguy, so whether something is my fault or not, i get to un-f*ck it after.

Basil

@MikeyB I beat you all to it... but I still have to use it.

voretaq7

@DennisKaarsemaker That does not meet Tumblr's required naming convention. Try again.

Iain

@ChrisK you spat your dummy here and ran away to NE and now you want us to give it a once over ...

Chris K

@MDMarra thanks... I guess you poked him by mentioning him?

MDMarra

20:59

So I'm just now playing LittleBigPlanet and I think I'm high

@ChrisK yup

Chris K

@MDMarra thx :D

MDMarra

He doesnt really work, so not sure what he'd be doing besides chat

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