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22:00
Althought I never heard the microsoft.com story
@MarkHenderson You don't have adequate capacity for a slashdotting a few dozen times and then you get a reputation? So unfair!
@ewwhite - that P4300 node from yesterday? There was no spare RAM in the DC for it, so I ordered some from our supplier on a 4-hr delivery contract and replaced it. Booted fine, and now that I've proven it was the RAM that was at fault (because thats what the damn NMI said) now they ship me a replacement part
@MarkHenderson are P4300 nodes DL300-series or DL100-series?
I also bumped both nodes up to 8GB while I was at it. Not sure if that's going to really make any difference to the nodes, but if I'm ordering one DIMM on 4hr delivery, who cares
@ewwhite 300
they look like DL180's.
at least here, they're DL180s
22:04
Hmm sorry you're right
They are DL180's
but they somehow got ILO2 processors on them
@ewwhite 180s
They're 180s with ILO2, that's correct
For some reason I thought that the 180's were single-socket.
Sometimes I get confused between the Dell and HP features designated by model number
yeah the modeling scheme on certain HP models are confusing
like the ML350e being single socket
Yeah, any model number ending in "e" is bad news from HP
22:20
Like any server from dell ending in a 5
is an AMD Opteron
@pauska :) So once again, I need storage for a vSphere cluster. Needs to be cheap. What do you think of this description of an EMC VNXe3150 - store.emc.com/Product-Family/VNX-AND-VNXe-PRODUCTS/VNXe3150/p/…
I don't see a problem with using AMD as long as it's ALL AMD
@JoelESalas AMD is mighty-wack!
Unless you're poor...
Again i prove that hour-for-hour, the most effective way to get bugs out of code is to sit and read the code.
What's actually wrong with it though?
22:23
Not to run it, and not to write unit tests. Code review is the best technique known for fixing bugs. Get somebody else to read your code and you all set.
@JoelESalas momentum and mindshare. You don't want to be the only one out there championing Betamax or OS/2 Warp or ATA-over-Ethernet... or AMD.
@ewwhite no
Anonymous
no
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Anonymous
probably a trap
APZ
APZ
22:32
Hi everyone, what would be the nest way to find out amount of data read from disk in case of cache miss for a particular process
*best
Dunno. Have you tried searching the main site?
APZ
APZ
@tom
@PatoSáinz she's cute
APZ
APZ
no, I havent
doing it now
I'd start there. Then ask a question on the main site.
22:34
No now I need a power injector for a Cisco access point. Any recommendations?
@ewwhite Cisco's own?
APZ
APZ
@tom thanks, will do
Anonymous
> 22:24 UTC GitHub and Gist are online, we're working to restore connectivity to some repositories.
22:13 UTC We've recovered from an internal DNS outage, and are working to restore service to all repositories.
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@MDMarra ^crisis averted
@APZ errr... I'd start with "data read from disk" since "data read from disk in case of cache miss" is equivalent
22:39
@TomO'Connor that's probably too easy!
APZ
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@MikeyB right
@ewwhite Dude, it opens so slowly.... Maybe if it snapped open or something. But i don't want to wait for 1.4 seconds while it decides if it wants to open or not.
@ChrisS :(
@ChrisS Wel, don't hate because I bought one!
using @MDMarra's consulting money
23:00
afternoon gents
APZ
APZ
what would be the nest way to find out amount of data read from disk in case of cache miss for a particular process, found the answer, want to share it for all: /proc/pid/io
@ewwhite Dude. I've told you a hundred times. Don't assume a female avatar photo is for a female user. That's so obviously stock photography.
@Magellan No worries. I have Sandra.
@ewwhite Oy Vey. I don't even like talking about that person. The degree of Fail just amazes me.
@Magellan Helping her with a storage project.
23:11
I want a picture of the two of you in the same room. I don't believe this person is real.
And FFS. The recruiter must be trying to earn enough to pay their 4th quarter tax bill or something. I've gotten 5 emails and a phone call today and a request to do a 4th interview with the University. Sheesh.
@ewwhite $_$
@Magellan Academia is fun
Usually broke as fuck, but they're willing to let you cobble whatever bullshit you want together
@MDMarra Dude. I used to do that. I don't want to do that anymore....
@ewwhite I saw the commercial and considered breaking my embargo on TB
23:15
@MDMarra Actually though, this is the medical center side of the University. So there's cash behind it.
@MDMarra The aroma fills my car; it shares the same smell of body odor and waxed paper. I can already feel it seeping through my bloodstream, coating my clothing.
@Magellan I lied, there's some money. But it usually goes to Solaris|Oracle|Blackboard so if you can latch on to one of those groups you're set
Medical Center of medical school?
If it's an actual medical center, then there's definitely $$$$
And it's next to impossible to be fired from a university
@MDMarra center. it's actually a really big deal. But it's still the state. So I don't know if they'd offer me the cash I'd need to work there.
ah
Usually there are benefits on the back end to make up for it, but a lot of times it's not enough
23:18
FFS. I received TWO more recruiter emails since I last complained about it.
One place I worked at gave 15% to retirement (not even matching, they just put an extra 15% of what you made each month into retirement). and 100% medical/dental coverage
So since I max retirement anyway, that was like 10k extra per year at that job
@MDMarra Yeah. I think I'll go in for the interview. If nothing else, just to see what they'd offer me. I'm curious.
Asking what you want isnt annoying
You fool
:13075139 No, you say, "here's what I'm worth". It's so you don't waste the recruiter's time and YOUR time.
@MDMarra why fool
23:21
Asking what you make is shitty of them
Asking what you want is reasonable
@JoelESalas "Where do you see yourself in 5 years time?" "Shit man, I don't even have a plan for this weekend"
"Ed, we have this job at a nice T-shirt manufacturer. You'll be doing DevOppiness wizardry. Pay is $80k. Is that cool?"
It's just about ballpark and making sure there's a match.
Less chat, more Taco Bell!
@MDMarra Dude. That's always how that question is asked. Every single time.
@MDMarra are you going to go get it?
There's nothing wrong with being asked what you make either.
@ewwhite I'm resisting
23:23
@ewwhite 80k is good for a tiny little startup and a good chunk of equity.
@Magellan Always
"What was your base at your former role?"
@ewwhite when you're in 6 figure territory, it doesn't matter, because the difference between 110 and 130 is a lot less than the difference between 60 and 80
And you say, "$xy... but I'm looking for $xyz in a new opportunity"
But when you're trying to make moves in your mid 20s, the previous base salary discussion is crippling
23:25
It's not... not if you're talking to a recruiter...
Sure it is. The recruiter is going to pass it to HR and HR is going to cap their offer at $current+10k at most places
again, salaries and comp ranges for roles/regions are pretty well-defined.
so you should be going in knowing what you're worth before engaging any recruiter.
Doesn't matter if you're worth 90k on paper, no one is going to pay 90k to someone currently making 50k
Quick research on Dice/Indeed will tell you that.
@MDMarra You don't have to answer previous range, but you do need to be forthcoming on your expectations.
ya, I agree with that
23:27
@MDMarra If you're jumping from rural midwest to SF or Manhattan, they'd better be willing to do that jump, otherwise you'd be taking a pay cut...
I'm not talking about special cases like relocation
I've said, "I'd be open to 90k-140k, depending on the total package, opportunity and environment"
@freiheit that's totally about demand though.
@Magellan demand and cost of living
which says nothing about my former salary, but is used to see if everyone is on the same page
23:28
Since 2008 I've gone from 34k to 42k to 52k to 62k to 75k to 90k to $current_bling_bling
But it was an uphill battle
Maybe at hot SF startups people don't care what you previously made or how old you are, but it matters in most other places
@freiheit I'd argue that the 2nd is a factor in defining the 1st and not actually a 1st order cause. If there's piles of Devs out there to work a job, the offered salary will trend down even if the cost of living remains high if there's no mobility in the market.
When I gave my salary history to t-shirt company, and they STILL came back at $20k below what I was asking for, that was totally on them.
You have to be very careful with salary maneuvering and positioning yourself in my position. I'm still only 28, I don't think most people at $current_job realize that
@MDMarra If you don't have any grey hair I'm pretty sure they suspect you're well under 35.
Youth in the hot tech areas is looked at as a plus. Everywhere else, it's looked at as a way to get talent at a discount
It's something you have to be aware of when talking $$
Ok, totally unrelated but I paid for food on my credit card the other day and my wife went to pick it up for us. SHE LEFT A TIP on the credit card slip
Who leaves a tip when they do pickup?
23:33
@MDMarra I leave a small tip for takeout. Tip isn't just for the waitstaff. The cooks get a cut.
@MDMarra yeah, I don't do that.
lol
Nice thing to do I guess..
@Magellan Really? I've never heard of cooks getting a cut unless you specifically say "This is for the kitchen"
@MDMarra I leave a small tip. $1 or so. The waiter is paid for their time by tips and is still helping me out, even though it's not much.
Hm
I thought this would be a unanimous "you marred a dummy"
I guess not
But, I will say that it's comforting to be on the same side of it as the guy that just bought a $250 trash can.
23:35
@Magellan It's only the front of house folks that are supposed to get a cut of tip. (waiter, busboy, host/ess, etc)
@freiheit In Washington State, waitstaff are directly taxed based on the gross reciepts of the tables they wait. It's assumed by the state that a certain percent of tips are cash and go unreported, so the waitstaff are directly taxed on the gross. Which sucks since the staff at the cheapie little diners with the 25 cent tips get royally screwed.
Interesting
@Magellan I think that's basically US-wide. IRS assumes waitstaff get at least 8% of gross receipts as tips, or something like that...
@MDMarra We don't have an income tax here, so they come up with a million and one other ways to nickel and dime everyone.
wait
If there's no income tax, what are they being taxed on?
23:37
@freiheit That could be for income tax. There's no income tax, but there's other weird service and excise taxes for damn near everything.
oh
I don't miss excise tax
I had to pay that shit on my car every year when I lived in MA
@MDMarra Our car annual re-registration here used to be about 5% of the car's value.
Nothing like paying $400+ per year for the privilege of being able to pay for gas!
You could expect to pay $1000 for car tabs on a 20k car.
wtf
23:38
SUVs were not terribly popular here until that go repealed in around 2001.
Our taxes here are obnoxiously regressive.
Have you heard about the electric car tax that one of the Carolinas (I think) is implementing?
@MDMarra Oregon. They want to do a car tab tax based purely on mileage.
Since the state is taking in less gas tax when people drive electric cars, there's now an electric car tax in the works there
Introducing Christine, a futuristic modular PC concept from @Razer at #CES2014: http://msft.it/6018dQc8 http://t.co/CpoCYpbtjs
Want to do better for the environment and get off of fossil fuel at the same time? IT'LL COST YOU
23:40
What the
@MDMarra yeah. that's been proposed and faltered in Oregon a couple times now.
At least Oregon seems awesome. I have no hope that the Carolinas will get it right
@MDMarra And in Spain they're actually trying to charge people 2-3x in taxes on solar-generated electricity what it would cost to buy it from the utility.
A guy stripped naked in an airport because he was forced to go through a full body scanner
taxing people on the solar electricity their own hardware generates...
23:41
An oregon judge ruled that it was OK since it was in protest and wasn't meant to cause sexual arousal
@MDMarra Portland, OR has a lot of awesome little breweries too. And the weather is nicer than Seattle. The job market isn't as good though.
I know a girl that moved to Portland a few years ago
She'd apparently never turned her heat or AC on until recently
She's literally insane though and she's also a nanny which is scary
@MDMarra Seattle rarely gets below freezing. Portland gets chillier and snow more often, but is warmer in the summers than here.
We rarely get above 75-80F here in La Nina years.
temperate rain forest.
Ok wife just got home with more food that she probably tipped on
see ya
Were it not that it sucked so bad, this would belong on webmasters.SE:
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Q: I see my full site at another domain

adrianTNTToday I found one of my website fully being displayed at another domain that is not mine. Is this some kind of DNS hack or what is the purpose of these actions ? Because I seen this before, few years ago, all content from Adobe Exchange (user uploaded content) was being displayed at many other do...

23:51
wait what
"I did a ping on that domain, as I expected, it show same IP as my site."
Plot twist. It's actually just his website, he just got confused.
@mossy I'm pretty sure he started out confused and just stayed that way.
Just no....
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Q: Which block sizes for millions of small files

rabuddeI have 2x 4TB Disks in hardware RAID1 (it might be a LSI MegaRaid) on Debian Wheezy. The physical block size is 4kB. I'm going to store 150-200 million of small files (between 3 and 10kB). I'm not asking for performance, but for best filesystem and block sizes to save storage. I've copied a file ...

@Magellan "It is a dedicated hosting managed by me. I use Plesk panel "

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