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06:08
@ewwhite blargh discovered we don't have documnetation for adding a datastore to a host :(
06:27
@MichaelHampton VMware, man
@JoelESalas Wut? You don't even know.
@ewwhite How do you install VMware with Puppet?
@MichaelHampton you can't
You guys suck
my rep was over 9000 and then a chunk of it got migrated :(
sorrrrry
Fucking spammers.
06:37
@MichaelHampton So you no want my cloud?
But Openstack instead?
@ewwhite Haha, uh, no...
Hmmph
@ewwhite I can deploy OpenStack in 6 minutes!
@MichaelHampton so?
How often do people need hypervisors deployed?
@ewwhite And bring up a new node with a ONE-LINER
06:39
THere's a happy medium between a 5 minute kickstarted VMware host, my 30 minute manual process and the 150+ steps needed to provision ESX at Logicworks
again, when most operations can live happily on three or fewer hosts... that's no selling point
@DennisKaarsemaker: ow
but I'm just MAD, @MichaelHampton
@ewwhite You did buy that gun, right?
:(
gotta wake up at 4:50am to fly to the East Coast
You can sleep on the plane...
06:44
install new produce server... fusion-io... copy data... ignore the rest of the broken infra....
then hop train to NY to do the same thing, except with my not-fusion-io cards that run at reduced speeds.
sleep somewhere...
then fly home
maybe walk by old employer's office and see if I can get onto wifi...
Just make sure you aren't on the Hudson line Metro-North... unless you want to wind up in the river
8 hours ago, by ewwhite
Then taking a death-train to NYC...
I used to ride that line all the time since I'd fly into Mt. Kisco instead of the ridiculous crowded NYC airports
oh my
There's still nonstop service from O'Hare I think
Er, the airport is in White Plains. Mt. Kisco is where I was actually going
06:53
nah, Laguardia is classy enough for me
thin provisioned disks on thin provisioned datastores is like playing russian dolls with TARDISes
So far I've managed to avoid flying into or out of any of NYC's airports
@Andrew I do it all the time
@MichaelHampton for ever? I did in/out LaGuardia a while ago
I never thick provision anything now.
wasteful
06:55
had to wait for an air show to roll past first...
just don't overcommit too much
@Andrew Never ever. I've either flown into/out of HPN or taken Chinatown buses.
@ewwhite so far I'm sizing to undercommit because I have some legacy thick provisioned crap
@MichaelHampton I was a tourist, I didn't have much choice
@Andrew Good point
@ewwhite does "convert to thin provisioned" when cloning work? work good?
06:57
@Andrew Though, as soon as you clear customs (likely on the west coast somewhere) you can pretty much do whatever you want.
@Andrew works great
why all of this cloning? What are you doing?
@ewwhite creating a test environment for a domain upgrade
as in "you don't have one already? facepalm"
cloning is just not a popular operation
well, we need to test "as-is" and we're not licensed for FlexClone...
oh well, I found some gaps in our documentation this way
07:29
@MichaelHampton can you send serverfault.com/questions/559072/ssh-proxy-laptop to U&L is was 3/2 for not relevant
morning
Morning
G'day
07:47
Bought it
@JennyD nice
Off the shelf or custom built ?
@Iain It's off the shelf but it's a decent brand (Globus). It fits us both and is as comfortable as a brand new saddle can be expected to be - i.e. it will be better in a year or so... Price was SEK 9.990:- so not too bad.
That'd be something like £1000 or USD 1700, I think
Cool, an uncomfortable saddle is erm uncomfortable
@Iain Yeah, the one I was using was a little too small, so I was always tilting either forward or back. I got a much better seat on this one. And it's got the knee supports I need to keep my balance when he decides to have the yahoos - I don't really have a very good balance and it gets worse when I'm a bit insecure with the horse, which I still am with him.
@JennyD You get stiff and grip up ? I was trying to get the horse I ride to do flying changes recently and he kept getting disunited, eventually he had a 'moment' and bounced around all over the place. - interesting that was
08:01
@Iain Yes, on him I do... Which is stupid because he's really helpful and tries to get me back to a good position when I sway. And I really do know that the thing to do is to relax and sit down instead, but doing it is another matter.
Meeting time. Back in an hour.
@JennyD I see that in Jayne, I can tell when she's not comfortable and confidence is ebbing
@DennisKaarsemaker because developer
08:19
Band of Horses?
08:39
Call of Pony: Modern Saddle
This Windows 8 tablet keep chiming and I don't know why...
@tombull89 it wants you to euthanize it
@DennisKaarsemaker Even if I do, I've 71 others to "take care" of.
time for the panel-beating hammer of truth to get busy then
09:05
gah.. our backup-to-disk solution is eating away all of our storage
yeah, they do that :-(
I bet that this would get a 5:1 block dedup ratio - if we had block dedup
Meeting over. Hey folks.
hey
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Morning ladies
09:16
@tombull89 line them all up and call @RyJones. He'll take care of them.
ayup
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@Iain One of the lads here has a wife who is into horse riding - she got thrown off Sunday and has ended up with a compound fracture :(
ouch
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I know - looks horrid. She's still in hospital and has had a couple of operations but it sounds like she's avoided any long term injury - doctors reckon she should heal up just fine
well that's the important thing but probably doesn't feel like it to her right now :-(
09:19
@Dan ouch, I fell off once and cracked my elbow and once I was in a class when someone else fell off and I heard their femur snap
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I know. She's ridden for years so hopefully it won't put her off
Got to hate all those sports injuries, you have to wonder why you keep doing it to yourself when it happens!
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@Iain Ouch - hearing a bone go isn't a nice sound!
no
fun
09:20
bone breaks and dislocations
what fun!
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I've done pretty well - I've only ever broken a finger
@Dan Ouch. Three years ago I fell off and broke both the leg bone and the shin bone of my left leg.
i managed to fracture my ankle joint doing judo. Only a slight break but ever since then the ankle goes through phases of dislocating itself.
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@JennyD Jeez jenny
good grief that's a nasty one Jenny
09:24
@RobM did you say that you're running Moodle?
@RobM It really wasn't fun. Took nine months and four surgeries.
>_>
@pauska: My school moved from blackboard to moodle. I'm not impressed
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@pauska Went to see the company accountant yesterday about the potential of contracting through/with the company. A very tempting offer, but I don't think I can make the figures work at all (As in, it wouldn't even be worth it) - so I think I have my answer
Even with them running at a loss (Which they were willing to do to keep me), I could be losing thousands each year
@JourneymanGeek lol
@jennyd yikes again
@pauska no, sorry, Blackboard
09:39
@RobM It gave me a new appreciation for wheelchair-accessible shops and other public buildings...
i bet
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Got a letter from Virgin Media saying they're putting prices up (again) - over to BT we go!
@Dan good lad :)
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@Chopper3 ;)
@Dan You'll get the G3 box which is a shame as the G4's are due in late spring and they're tiny
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09:51
@Chopper3 Same capabilities I presume, though?
Actually, been thinking about seeing if BT do fibre in my area. VM are starting to become expensive
@Dan MUCH faster, plus a 2.5" disk instead of 3.5", same capacity but it can do a lot more GPU-wise, and it's really small, like a book
@Dan but the G3's still great, very stable
@chopper so this is the BT equivilent of the tivo/virgin+ box?
@RobM yus
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@Chopper3 Aw, but ho hum
09:52
@Dan You can go your own way!
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Perhaps mine will break
@pauska Tell you what, mate - I'm fucking bricking it since I told my boss
@Dan understandable
@Dan are you in an infinity area? the home hub 5 is ace, it's one-box for VDSL+ too, and the packaging even lets it fit through most letterboxes somehow
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@Chopper3 I am indeed - wouldn't switch otherwise
I'm the same way.. telling a boss that I want to leave is one of the worst things I've done in my life (except for breaking up with a girl)
09:54
@Dan why? what's the worst he could do
@Dan make sure you get a HH5 then ok - much better than the 4
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@Chopper3 No, he's not the problem - it's me handing in my notice without a job to go to!
sounds good
@pauska really? wow - you're a good employee because you clearly care more than they will
I mean the bt thing, not the bricking it thing
@Dan ah you'll be fine, I did that once, turned out great
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09:55
@Chopper3 Here's hoping - I'm just trying to keep the doubts at bay. I've never taken a financial risk as big as this, but I've just got to plough through I guess
@Chopper3 By the way - charging a £35 "Activation Fee" is a con!
@Chopper3 It comes with HH5, yay
@Dan hmmm...I get mine for nowt obviously so I've not seen that cost - it wouldn't kill to get rid of that would it
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@Chopper3 VM charge, too - but no, I wouldn't have thought it costs £35 to do whatever it is they're doing
I like the idea of VM because they do a "fiber only" plan - our TalkTalk plan just isn't cutting it any more. Thing is, total cost inclused what you would pay for line rental.
Infinity isn't avalible where I live :(
@tombull89 me neither, well not just yet, it's close - don't really need it to be honest
10:06
@Chopper3: that actually looks pretty decent for a all in one. How reliable/flexible is it?
@JourneymanGeek sorry, which parts?
oh, the homehub 5
oh it's very good
(just curious, I've had mixed experiences with modem routers)
granted we had a aztech (meh) and a 2wire (pretty good, but locked down)
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The VM routers have been pretty bad, though my current one has been stable to be fair
10:08
HomeHub and VM Superhub are supposed to be quite good. Not sure about the Sky one.
"supposed" :P
@Dan: I tend to go with a normal router and a modem usually, simply cause my ISP's modem-router for cable is notoriously bad, and I had a wrt54G as my main router for ages ;p
I'm about to switch ISP as well
@Dan just got a sales emai - subject: RM Misco Partnership.
current ISP won't replace router, even though it fails frequently
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@tombull89 Interesting! Saw the rumour about them being brought out on The Reg the other day
10:13
This will mean that we will no longer manufacture our own-brand computers or actively sell third-party alternatives no moar RM Ones!
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"Shame"
Had to cable 60 of them up on my apprenticeship.
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@tombull89 I know your pain
10:28
speedguide.net/routers/… this is starhub's standard modem router. Nearly everyone turns off wifi and adds their own AP
omg, so essentially, simply computers have borged RM.

Things I didn't see coming #93753
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RM are fucked IMHO
They've just had another round of redundancies exclusive of the hardware thing
And they've got rid of BIG people, too - Service Delivery Managers, Directors etc
And two of my mates who're Technical Account Managers
RM ?
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@Iain Big (Biggest?) IT supplier to Education
ah not my sphere
10:59
RM are fucked. They got burnt over BSF and have moved themselves into a niche that is becoming irrelevant.
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Yep
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Building Schools for the Future (BSF) was the name given to the Blair Government's investment programme in secondary school buildings in England. The program was very ambitious in its costs, timescales and objectives, with politicians from all English political parties supportive of the principle but questioning the wisdom and cost effectiveness of the scheme. The delivery of the BSF programme was overseen by Partnerships for Schools (PfS), a non departmental public body formed through a joint venture between the Department for Children, Schools and Families (DCSF) (formerly the Department ...
11:18
ahh
Huh, our school is missing off that list.
Build for this place was £32 million of which £1.7million was ICT systems and £500,000 of that was probably wasted.
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Only £500k, bargain!
Biometric classroom regestration system. Students swipes in at the door to register. Month of issues. Didn't get used afterwards. Wanted supplier to take it back, but they discontinued it. £60k.
lol
my school has one of those for foreign students
We spent about £56 mil on this place but then we're a college and thankfully had fuck-all to do with BSF
11:56
I don't know if this a scenario question or an actual production network, but it's generally bad practise to put anything but the Domain Controller role on a DC. It's also bad SF practise to ask "please provide teh tutorial". If you have looked for an answer and need help clarifying it, that's fine, but asking users to do everything isn't quite fair. — tombull89 7 secs ago
fair?
also this looks odd - itproportal.com/2013/12/04/… - dual screen phone
12:18
First flight with new man-bag.
Snore, I almost fell asleep on the drive to the airport.
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:(
@tombull89 Once I saw it was e-ink, I can actually see the point
I suspect battery life shouldn't be too impacted
@tombull89 We're looking at a project to use door scanners for a new edu building..
I think they want to use QR tags (on badges) and scan students into lectures
and integrate it with moodle
12:41
We've been doing it with Salto cards, RFID cards basically
yeah RFID would work too
13:00
Yeah that's what students have, RFID cars for cashless catering, print release and e-regestration.
Morning
Just had a lecturer make veiled comments about knowing how to fill in the "Are the IT staff helpful" question on the staff survey because I can't fix a corrupt document for a student where their only copy is on a damaged memory stick, and somehow didn't acquire the power to do so magically just because they kept repeating "I don't understand what you're saying".
I don't think I understand what you're saying.
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13:19
@RobM What. A. Cunt.
Indeed
@RobM: the correct response to that is "Dammit Jim, I'm a Sysadmin, not a necromancer!"
The correct response would result in Rob being fired...
Or arrested.
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Or shot in a dramatic shootout with the Police
13:28
apparently we just acquihired 75 people
this will be interesting
I'm always surprised that more sysadmin types aren't involved in shootouts in places where its legal to carry guns
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@DennisKaarsemaker So the slave trade is still alive and kicking in the Netherlands? Jeebus, is there anything that's verboten over there?
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@ScottPack Slave? I think the correct term is "sub"
@Dan So @DennisKaarsemaker is a dom? His picture suggests otherwise.
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@ScottPack I'm not one to judge
13:35
@Dan Don't get me wrong, I'm not making value judgements. I figure what one guy does with two other guys and a tetsubo is between them and their insurance adjuster, if appropriate.
I'm just speculating on plausibility.
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@ScottPack Well, he is a Sysadmin
He spends all day at working getting beaten, maybe a change is in order at home?
That does not stretch incredulity.
unlike goatse, which stretches everything
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well, this has taken an not very unexpected turn
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@DennisKaarsemaker wow
we're going to be hiring 35 devs.
13:47
@cole that's roughly our quarterly goal :)
@DennisKaarsemaker but you guys are a big company no? We're not ridiculously huge - multinational but probably no where near what your headcount is.
but hey, a 75-people boost is good for our slave-trading hiring numbers :)
we're about ~6000
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:12468656 Wow, that's big
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13:50
@cole so you're not that much smaller than us :)
@DennisKaarsemaker nope - previous job was the same size and growing.
This company has 45 sites world wide - previous one had 85
The Windows Infrastructure team here is 10 people including myself of highly competent people - previous one was 5 that supported everything
We have 182
(offices)
snap
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13:52
@tombull89 No, no it's not :(
My brother, everyone.
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@tombull89 Really?
@Dan nod slightly shorter hair now though.
he looks 12.
Probably 16-17 when that was taken.
13:55
Jeez
Then again I'm 27 - and look about ~21-22
Still getting ID'd for 15's and 21's here :D
@DennisKaarsemaker how many IT employees/groups do you have?
@tombull89 dude I get carded for R-rated movies and Mature video games.
@DennisKaarsemaker you're more of a Unix\Linux-centric shop right? Or do you have a lot of Windows too?
I was carded for beer last week. I don't think that's happened in nearly 10 years.
@cole 300/65 (numbers are probably slightly inaccurate)
@ScottPack It's weird - 95% of the time I do get carded.
13:59
@cole 6k linux servers, 7k windows desktops + the AD environment to support that
@DennisKaarsemaker sorry for all the questions, I just find it interesting how larger shops are setup.
@DennisKaarsemaker damn
@cole come to amsterdam and work for us, you'll learn all about it :)
@DennisKaarsemaker sold
@cole I do have a beard and look respectable.
@ScottPack true, I just have a goatee.
14:01
You forgot the finger quotes.
I've noticed a huge different now without my plugs in though on how people treat me.
Hey dude - look at my pic again! It's a respectable one now
Not just face pubes.
Yes yes. I'm sure your "goatee" is "respectable".
:(
where did Dennis go?
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@pauska May need your help mate
If you're around for a min
14:09
yo
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I'm playing (That's not the word - this is a live box, so quite the opposite) with an ASA. It's a crap setup, but it's what they have and involves a double NAT to a TMG box
Anyhow, all I want to know is can I enable source address translation for just one NAT rule
@pauska here!
My wife's as OCD as me so to wind her up I burnt off exactly 999 calories at the gym, she was seriously angry about it :)
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@Dan sure
ASDM?
14:16
@DennisKaarsemaker yeah but your name on the star wall disappeared
@Chopper3 That's a shitload of calories.
@pauska DevOps.
@pauska also, I deleted the message Dan replied to
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@pauska Yep - not in front of it at the moment, annoyingly - but I can be
@ScottPack only about 85-90 mins walking at around 5.5kmph on a 4% gradient for me actually
@DennisKaarsemaker ahaaa
14:18
Not that it's a secret we have 7k employees, but
@Chopper3 That's...not bad at all. I wouldn't have expected it to be that high. Cool!
@ScottPack may have lost a lot but I'm still big
downloaded a 1.5GB installer and ran it...finished install is a 87mb folder.
14:19
@Dan so all you want to do is a one-to-one NAT of a certain IP? Are the rest of them in a pool?
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@tombull89 Pre-reqs I guess
@pauska That's correct. The rest are a mixture, I believe
@Chopper3 Trying to get healthy as part of recovery?
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I have the one-to-one NAT setup but it doesn't rewrite the source
@ScottPack yus, should see my diet, it'd make a tibetan monk think I was playing it bit safe
@Dan ohh
14:21
@Chopper3 Do you feel like it's a change you'll be able to manage for the long haul or are you just doing something aggressively to help kickstart the process?
you have to add a rule before those.. as in not doing the NAT directly on the ACL, but go into the NAT list and add the rules on the top there
"add nat rule before network object rule"
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Ah, right okay - I'll get connected (I have to get them to start a Teamviewer session) and take a look
I've used this once, just to proxy over DNS requests by internal clients who pointed at a dead DNS server.. I'm not exactly an expert in this right here
@ScottPack been doing this for 5 months now with no slow-down or lack of interest, if I ever do feel a bit like it's too much I just think about being on all those drips again and wanting an off-button, that seems to do the job
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@pauska As we'd say in the office "You touched it, I haven't - you're an expert now!"
14:23
@Chopper3 I suppose that would be a pretty good motivator.
@ScottPack seems to be yes :)
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@Chopper3 Have you considered doing a little more things like hiking. I know it's not the time of year, but I find the gym to be really hard going
I can run 10 miles outside, but I'm lucky to manage 20 minute on a treadmill before giving up
I can totally get in for hiking. It's amazing how strenuous that can actually be.
@Dan not hiking per-se but we tend to walk along coastal paths at the weekend - did 10 on saturday and 8+10 last weekend - I'd like to do that catholic pilgramage walk in spain (I'm not a religious mental but it looks nice)
@ScottPack my boss (?) does two weeks in nepal hiking twice a year, in fact it's the only holidays he has
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@Chopper3 Ah, coastal paths are good! And yeah, I didn't mean hiking in the strict sense - just it's a lot more fun to walk in the country
14:26
I'd like to get my gf on board for more physical activities instead of just marathoning shows on the couch.
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@Chopper3 I'd love to hike up to base camp at Everest
@Dan yeah, we have such lovely views around here, it's very nice to walk here
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@cole Yeah, me too. Oh, wait, hang on - you mean like fitness? ;)
@Chopper3 Much like Dan I was more thinking a few miles on a woodland path, but sure, I guess that works too.
@Chopper3 So other than trying to get your overall health in line how have you been feeling?
@Dan and the other thing too
She's depressed, I can tell. Not sure really what to do.
14:28
@ScottPack good, bit too easily angered at the moment if truth be known, I blame the tablets :) memory's not what it once was but it's ok, physically feel better in many ways than I have for years - the odd ache or pain howeve
@Chopper3 Woahwoahwoah. More easily miffed?
She flipped out on me the other day about talking about losing more weight. D:
Function Out-Text
{
param([Parameter(Mandatory=$True)]$Text)
$Speaker = New-Object -ComObject SAPI.SpVoice
$Speaker.Speak($Text) | Out-Null
}
Out-Text "Ryan is the coolest"
@RyanRies No kidding, here is the literal copy/paste of a job from our client mgmt system. We use it to "encourage" user to contact us regarding specific computers:
$voice = new-object -com SAPI.SpVoice
$voice.Rate = -2

while ( $true ) {
  $voice.Speak("hello")
  $voice.Speak("please call the help desk. 5 5 5 5 0 5 0")
  Start-Sleep -s 4
}
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Almost literal copy/paste that is.
@jscott does the helpdesk ticket make a note to give them clean underwear when they hear their machine talking to them?
14:35
Quite useful for finding "missing" computers.
posted on December 04, 2013 by <a id='post_author' class='fn' itemprop='name'

Man, I've been pulling my hair out for the past couple of days trying to get my pair of Cisco Nexus 5548s to synchronize their switch profile configurations, but I think I've finally got it, so I wanted to write a little bit and maybe help other people who got stuck, too. Here's some background: […]

@tombull89 We used to play a "honk.wav", which resulted in much more fun calls.
@jscott Hah... freakin' users, man. Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.
@RyanRies well, you can...
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I helped a mate write some pretty basic software for a betting shop. It needed an alert function and my friend wanted a really obnoxious noise and I bargained him down to a pleasant IM style "bing".

Anyway, the software is being used now and they've asked if they can have a louder, more obvious sound :(
14:42
@Dan How about a recording of horn from a diesel loco? Or a tornado warning siren?
HOOOOOOOOOOOONKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK You've won £2!
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@tombull89 I'm not even joking when I say they were considered.
ah it stuck 1.3GB of that stuff in %ProgramData%
@Dan dalek_screech.wav <--- works great. My wife made me change my alarm clock to not use it after only 3 days
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14:47
Haha
NOT KIDDING :)
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I stopped using sounds like for alarm clocks ever since I used a song I liked for a while and now will forever associate it with the pain of waking up early
@Dan alarm.setsound('rebecca_black_friday.mp3')
My current alarm clock sound is Anthrax - Metal Thrasing Mad
lol
14:52
People are so dumb
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javascript:$("#chat .user-container.user-2833").remove()
I'm sure I can fiddle up a one-click onebox remover if nobody else yet has.
Dixon, James <[email protected]>
9:35 AM (19 minutes ago)
to me




I am new to powershell and I found this in your BLOG.

Where/how do I get the script?  I don’t see it on the blog ( I don’t blog, so maybe it is there and I don’t know what I’m looking at)

Thanks in advance

Jim
@MDMarra isn't...that a bank?
This is the blog post he's talking about
He can't figure out where the script is on it.
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14:56
I suppose it's plausible Pastebin isn't showing for him
You wouldn't check your content filter before you email a stranger?
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May not be a filter - for example, one of my forums doesn't show YouTube videos (or even an error) on my tablet. It's pretty confusing at first
It's an insurance company. Probably still on IE6.
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Honestly - could he have done a little more research, possibly? But, to be fair, the text doesn't explicitly state that there is code below - it's just a statement of fact
@MDMarra If it just doesn't show, why would he suspect his filter?

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