The Comms Room

cole

12:07

hello

FINAL DAY IN HELL!!!!!!!

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Nathan C

@Cole :o

Jenny D

hey Cole

tombull89

@cole aww yisss

cole

hey @JennyD!

I AM SO EXCITED

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sums it up

Nathan C

@Cole is this a day to do nothing? lol

cole

12:15

No, I'm still doing work

my exit interview is at 1PM

tombull89

@cole "So, Cole, why would you say you're leaving us?"

pauska

got Wordpress running on IIS 8 with PHP, WinCache, URL rewrite (pretty links) and MySQL on a windows server

looks to be working quite great and fast :)

kalina

@pauska this looks like a sentence full of everything wrong with the world

tombull89

@pauska Achievement Unlocked

Nathan C

@pauska 5 kittens just died because you uttered that sentence.

Ry Jones

12:17

@cole confirm nothing deny everything level counteraccusations

seriously, skip the exit interview

kalina

exit interviews are pointless

pauska

We've been running PHP apps on IIS for over a year without hiccups, so I'm really not that surprised.. it's just good to see that people manage to write clean PHP code

cole

@RyJones have to do it, since that's when they take my badge and credit card

Ry Jones

@cole hand them both of those, say thanks, leave

there is nothing good that comes from talking to them on the way out the door

cole

@RyJones well I have to go down to HR. Do I just say I decline doing an exit interview?

Ry Jones

12:21

@cole I would.

All you can possibly do is say something silly and burn a bridge.

cole

Yeah I've already talked to HR in the past about the issues.

Not sure how I'm going to get out of it though

Don't want to be a dick either

Ry Jones

I'm not saying be a dick or antagonistic.

kalina

just walk in, set fire to them, walk out

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Ry Jones

any questions about why, or what would be better, or who, just don't answer them.

"I don't really feel comfortable discussing that"

cole

Good plan.

Ry Jones

12:25

it isn't like the right answer means they pull back the curtain to reveal you've won a prize.

cole

LOL imagine.

Confetti drops from the ceiling

Ry Jones

WOO WOO YOU WIN A LIFETIME SUPPLY OF CRELL!

tombull89

@cole and the curtain slides back to show...a nealy decommissioned Windows NT server ready for you to take home!

Ry Jones

just take the high road, don't slag anyone, etc

cole

brb gotta reboot

ok that's better

Everyone keeps telling me I'm going to miss it here.

Ry Jones

12:31

that's true

unless you work with 100% assholes, you will miss people

cole

I work with 100% assholes

These people are the most lazy, complacent and whiny people I've ever met

It's like high school here.

Ry Jones

assholes lips and lungs - the best part of hot dogs

Nathan C

@Cole My exit interview on my last job was them firing me...so yeah lol

Ry Jones

@cole hate to break it to you, but it's like high school everywhere

Nathan C

A lot of places only do "yes, so and so worked here" for references anyway.

cole

12:33

@RyJones a lot of places I've been haven't been like this. Everyone in my department has worked here for 10+ years, average in my department is 15+ years

Ry Jones

@cole what do they do? is this government work?

cole

Manufacturing

Nathan C

@Cole Yeah, that's common in those settings. The oldest person here has been here since 1987

Most people have been here 8+ years

Basil

12:47

morning

Ry Jones

HOLY COW IT'S MORNING?

Basil

@RyJones mmm... cow...

Jenny D

@Basil but do you ork them?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@JennyD I have colleagues for that :)

Jenny D

@DennisKaarsemaker nod that is what the cow-orkers are for!

Ry Jones

12:51

@JennyD I'm sure I'm someone's cow-orker

Nathan C

That's odd...one of my DFS shares stopped working randomly. "file not found" O.o

Jenny D

@RyJones I have been informed that the orking of cows is illegal in the state of Utah.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@NathanC DFS means Deletable File Shares, right? :)

pauska

@NathanC check the target server(s)

Basil

@JennyD I don't get it.

oh

I get it now.

Jenny D

12:53

@Basil :-)

Basil

@JennyD I need about two litres more coffee and I'll be getting jokes again

Ry Jones

@JennyD they only made it illegal in Washington state last year

Nathan C

@pauska Both of them are available and I can access the shares when going directly to one of the servers...

not through the dfs path though (\\domain\namespace\folder)

and it's only this one folder...others work fine which is odd.

pauska

So the UNC path directly to all the servers work, even as a regular user?

Nathan C

yes

pauska

12:55

huh

Nathan C

Probably will just rebuild that folder...

pauska

this could be dfs conflicts

have you looked at the event logs on namespace servers and on dfs-r members?

Oh, and are they using offline files?

try accessing the dfs path on a PC with offline files disabled

Nathan C

@pauska No offline files. I'll investigate the event logs after my meeting I have to go to...yay meetings...

pauska

@NathanC are you 100% positive? Windows will cache the DFS links unless you disable offline files completely

if those links get corrupted.. you get the picture

MDMarra

@pauska have you grabbed the 8.1 GA update yet?

support.microsoft.com/kb/2883200

Ry Jones

13:07

I'm running it on my surface pro

here is a pointless 40 minute video: youtube.com/watch?v=PXsDIlqJ95Q

MDMarra

I want a pro :(

Ry Jones

buy one, that's how I got one

MDMarra

I'm curious what specific fixes are in the 230MB GA update

the KB article doesn't say

Ry Jones

once the surface 2 is easy to get, I'll probably pass my surface down to my oldest daughter

pauska

@MDMarra the GA update is for the RTM version now on VLSC?

MDMarra

13:11

You get the GA update through windows update if 8.1 RTM is installed

pauska

oh

A fix is scheduled to be included with the upcoming update rollup in November 2013.
You experience an error when resuming a computer from hibernation, and a blank screen is shown. This issue may occur with some computers that have TPM chips enabled.

that one happened to me today

MDMarra

It's 230MB and has "finishing touches" according to the KB

pauska

so I guess we'll wait for that one until we roll out 8.1

MDMarra

My laptop doesn't power down now

So that's fun

Still trying to figure out why

pauska

support.microsoft.com/kb/2884846

so, a GA and a RU after RTM

Nathan C

13:13

@pauska I tried to access it directly from my machine and it was failing

MDMarra

@pauska ya

There are three updates available today. GA, UR, and something else

Plus my surface rt had a firmware update

Ry Jones

well, I give, I should pack.

cole

weee got free breakfast because its my last day

Iain

TANSTAAFB

Jenny D

@Iain I think Cole may be considered to have paid for it in blood, sweat and tears...

Chris S

13:24

@pauska Happens to my home computer all the time. I can still login with fingerprint though, and it brings the desktop right up.

TheCleaner

Apparently we are useless...

cole

Apparently they don't know proper grammar

RobM

oh that was a lovely ragequit post

Chris S

He left quite the doosie on mSF and mSO

RobM

oh yes

Chris S

13:32

He's also argued in the past that no site should ever close any question - basically that we should allow anything on any site - I don't know if anyone pointed him to Y!A, but he's got some very basic comprehension issues.

RobM

There's a few people who define on topic as "whatever random shit I want to talk about"

Journeyman Geek

wait, he did this on MSO too?

RobM

Of course there are a few people who define Off Topic as "anything I don't care about" and they're equally dickish, but still.

Journeyman Geek

heh, been having random annoyances with 8.1

RobM

I don't see how any annoyance with Windows 8 can be random.

Journeyman Geek

13:34

it turned on 3d for some reason. Took me a while to work out why the game I was playing gave me double vision

I didn't even know nvidia cards did anaglyphic 3d

Chris S

@JourneymanGeek Yeah

Journeyman Geek

so, yeah, I consider that random

also, the start menu has random coloured blocks which I can't change. WHAT IS IT WITH MS AND FISHER PRICE?

MikeyB

@JourneymanGeek EVERYTHING IS A TABLET

Journeyman Geek

@MikeyB: I know, right?

cole

Just got an email from the guy I don't like working with in my group, since he's off today

RobM

13:41

and what did it say?

cole

Hey Cole,

Sorry I am not there to say good bye in person....just wanted to wish you luck with the new job and let you know it was really great working with you, had some laughs and some fun, you will be missed buddy.

Please keep in touch.

Jenny D

@cole nice!

cole

Everyone in my group and other groups has said "Cole...you will certainly be missed." or something like that. It's nice to hear

RobM

yup

cole

I know I'm certainly a character, people find me entertaining lol

jscott

13:46

Well, sure... if you're the one picking up everyone's slack, I'm sure they'll really miss you once they're back to getting dumped on when stuff isn't accomplished.

cole

Oh yeah

They're fucked.

Everyone says that LOL

and sadly, they say it too

RobM

not your problem good sir

cole

Indeed.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@cole counting down the hours? :)

tombull89

Dear Thomas; Thank you for your application for the position of IT Technician and I am pleased to be able to invite you to attend for interview.

aww yiss.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

13:53

woo hoo

cole

@DennisKaarsemaker you know it

pauska

@tombull89 good luck mate!

Jenny D

@tombull89 grats & good luck!

Dennis Kaarsemaker

booking.com/haunted

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yes, it's spam, but funny :)

scroll up

cole

@tombull89 good luck sir

has anyone ever stayed at a haunted hotel (intentionally)

Journeyman Geek

14:07

lol

do they charge more or less? ;p

cole

In the meantime, I'm going to write a countdown timer to 1PM in Python

Nathan C

Quick question...in IIS, can I have the same "virtual directory" name in multiple sites? They all point to different physical places, but i want the virtual one to be the same name

MikeyB

@NathanC Why mightn't you be able to?

pauska

@NathanC yes

Nathan C

@MikeyB Dunno, thinking it had to be unique or something. Thanks @pauska

pauska

14:13

you're basically asking if folder names are unique across a file system

MikeyB

@cole mmmmm timedeltas

Nathan C

@pauska I didn't know if IIS liked having the same "virtual directory" name even if they were different sites

MikeyB

@NathanC ... like cgi-bin?

pauska

@NathanC different sites is OK, same site is not OK

just think of it as folders and you'll get the picture

Nathan C

@MikeyB I'm installing multiple instances of an .NET app on the same server. Different site, same IIS instance

Tanner

14:14

@DennisKaarsemaker that's fuckin' awesome haha

Nathan C

@pauska Good point, thanks

pauska

and since you mentioned .NET app

plan your pools carefully

Nathan C

Yeah, it auto-names the pools appropriately (since i'm doing a dev/staging/prod setup)

pauska

some people just dump everything into the default app pool, which is not a good idea with more than one site, and not a good idea at all if one of the apps misbehave even on a single site

cole

@MikeyB trying to teach myself Python so I figure why not

Journeyman Geek

14:17

2 or 3?

cole

I keep typing Pythong

and then laughing at myself.

Nathan C

@cole I'm taking an online class for python..that edX thing

it's free :D

cole

@NathanC I'm taking the Coursera one

#!/usr/bin/env pythong

I'm like wtf Cole

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@cole that's wrong

stop using /usr/bin/env like a magic bullet. The command is in /usr/bin/python

Chris S

cole

14:22

@DennisKaarsemaker good to know. This is all new to me

Journeyman Geek

one of these things is not like the other....

Tanner

@ChrisS deansproperty.com.au/Home/Profiles

Even better on their homepage: deansproperty.com.au

Gandalf standing in the back...

Journeyman Geek

lol

MikeyB

@DennisKaarsemaker As I understand it, The Reason for using /usr/bin/env is that python might sometimes be in /usr/local/bin, not /usr/bin.

tombull89

@Tanner Prior to Deans Property, he worked in sales; selling Australia on Disc...

uh?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

14:30

yes, and all those scripts will then suddenly stop working as both pythons will be completely different

MikeyB

@DennisKaarsemaker en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)#Portability (bah, ignore onebox)

Basil

Hey, does anyone (maybe @pauska?) know whether the VNX control station audit logs contain entries for actions done through the gui and the NAS command line?

Tanner

@tombull89 australiaondisc.com maybe that?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@MikeyB exactly. If I write my script having whatever is in /usr/bin/python in mind, I should use that as shbang

because you never know which version will be in /usr/local/bin, and if it will have the libraries one needs

MikeyB

@DennisKaarsemaker If you need a specific version, you'd use #!/usr/bin/env python2.7 fer instance.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

14:34

the /usr/bin/env trick is no more than an overused gimmick

MikeyB

$ python<TAB><TAB>
python      python2.7   python3.3   python3m
python2     python3     python3.3m

Dennis Kaarsemaker

it's not just about versions. It can be compilation options, installed libraries and whatnot

cole

[root@cole-linux ~]# python
python python2 python2.7 python3 python3.3 python3.3m

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@cole I have that with the word 'anything'. It always comes out as anythong...

MikeyB

@DennisKaarsemaker Sure, and nearly all of the time you don't need to be that specific. Oh hey, this script just needs python3 so I use #!/usr/bin/env python3 so it works both on my updated boxes as well as that stupid RHEL box over there ---> with no python3 package and an unmanaged install.

cole

14:36

hahaha @DennisKaarsemaker

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@MikeyB #!/usr/bin/python3

MikeyB

@DennisKaarsemaker Yeah, except it's installed in /usr/local/bin on that box.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

if the install is unmanaged, the system is broken

backport the package

cole

Not sure how valuable knowing Python and being a Windows Sys Admin will be though

MikeyB

@DennisKaarsemaker It's not a perfect solution, just a solution. And guess what? It works for the 4 or 5 months more this system will be around, that's good enough for me.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

14:38

@MikeyB ah, the fallacy of the 'temporary solution'

MikeyB

@cole It's good learnin'. It's a very nice language.

cole

@MikeyB indeed.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

So many of them tend to last for years, it's not even funny :)

cole

I like to learn anyways, that's why I'm doing it.

MikeyB

@DennisKaarsemaker Yep, agreed. Though in this particular case the replacement is marked on my calendar :D

mfinni

14:43

Found a pair of shoes for @wesley : punk.com/1694202.html

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tombull89

@mfinni only on weekends

mfinni

@tombull89 or Stabby Tuesday

Dennis Kaarsemaker

Journeyman Geek

@cole: a lot of IBM's tools for their laptops, back in the day were python

MikeyB

Wow, has this job ever given me a lot of "you're never going to believe this shit" stories due to be shared over beers.

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cole

14:45

@JourneymanGeek Interesting

Jenny D

@DennisKaarsemaker just looking at those make my feet hurt

TheCleaner

@ChrisS - I thought I had gotten a timeout. Tried to submit my answer on that VPN question and the thing was grayed out...then I F5'd.

cole

omg the whistler

tombull89

Questions about general computing hardware and software are off-topic for Stack Overflow unless they directly involve tools used primarily for programming. You may be able to get help on Super User — Siddharth Rout 13 mins ago

cole

not gonna miss him

tombull89

14:47

I asked about Visual Freakin' Studio.

MikeyB

@tombull89 snortle

pauska

The new RDP client for Mac/iOS/Android is out (the iTap code), free on all stores

MikeyB

I'm just going to leave that there to fuck with your minds.

cole

fuck that

Tanner

wat

no

cole

14:50

mind = blown

pauska

paint that reacts to lightning..

MikeyB

@cole dude. mind == blown

pauska

(the shadow from the trash bin)

cole

so I need to lose another 20lbs to get to my goal weight

Jenny D

Home time. Have a nice weekend!

MikeyB

14:51

@JennyD Cheers!

cole

@JennyD you too!

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@pauska nope. take screenshot and compare color values. The trick is that the squares in the shadow are painted differently

MikeyB

@DennisKaarsemaker It's funny - if you blow the image up 4x or so, it looks TOTALLY different.

Basil

@MikeyB mind =~ /blown/

TheCleaner

his profile comment forced me to make a meme...
"All the code that I post is TRIED & TESTED. But sometimes I am unable to do so for some reason, and usually say so if this is the case."

pauska

14:53

that doesn't add up.. if they were painted differently it should get brighter, not darker

since it's in the shade

TheCleaner

What the heck does that even mean? Talk in absolutes and then go completely ambiguous.

mfinni

Means this : This place is not a place of honor.
No highly esteemed deed is commemorated here.
Nothing valued is here.
This place is a message and part of a system of messages.
Pay attention to it!
Sending this message was important to us.
We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture.

jscott

Checker shadow illusion

The checker shadow illusion is an optical illusion published by Edward H. Adelson, Professor of Vision Science at MIT in 1995. The image depicts a checkerboard with light and dark squares. The optical illusion is that the area of the image labeled A appears to be a darker color than the area of the image labeled B. However, they are actually exactly the same color. This can be proven using the following methods: *Opening the illusion in an image editing program and using the eyedropper tool to verify that the colors are the same *Isolating the squares. Without the surrounding context, the...

mfinni

What is here is dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a warning about danger.

The danger is in a particular location... it increases toward a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.

The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours.

The danger is to the body, and it can kill.

jscott

@mfinni I think that's a pretty neat project.

TheCleaner

14:57

@mfinni wth?

mfinni

@TheCleaner damninteresting.com/this-place-is-not-a-place-of-honor

jscott

Someone just broke my flag flicker. Now I just get a parseerror.

mfinni

Alternatively : This is not a dream... not a dream. We are using your brain's electrical system as a receiver. We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference. You are receiving this broadcast as a dream. We are transmitting from the year one, nine, nine, nine.

You are receiving this broadcast in order to alter the events you are seeing. Our technology has not developed a transmitter strong enough to reach your conscious state of awareness, but this is not a dream. You are seeing what is actually occurring for the purpose of causality violation.

Magellan

@Cole how many hours left?

Chris S

@TheCleaner If you have Firebug or Chrome you can just edit the button, re-enable it, and post an Answer to a closed question for up to an hour after it's been closed.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

15:04

@Magellan 2 hours. I think he's frantically trying not to do anything at all :)

jscott

At that point, I'd just start counting down the remaining time aloud. Of course, don't tell anyone what you're doing. Just shout out the minutes-left every 60 seconds: "One hundred twenty"

pauska

@JourneymanGeek holy cow - gamers do take their discussions/internet wars seriously

I keep getting the "Hold on, someone is wrong on the internet" image in my head

Journeyman Geek

@pauska: its the bridge. They're probably singlehandedly the best reason for meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/201985/…

pauska

I mean, look at that discussion going on

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@jscott he should be whistling the final countdown :)

cole

15:08

@Magellan < 2 now

pauska

Why the hell would anyone spend their time on that?

jscott

@DennisKaarsemaker This is the best suggestion yet!

Journeyman Geek

lol

they need a hobby?

Chris S

@pauska What where??

Journeyman Geek

The Bridge ;p

pauska

15:09

You'd think they have enough gaming to fill up their free time

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@cole start whistling the final countdown

Or another one bytes the dust

Journeyman Geek

honestly, It looks like drama is their hobby ;p

pauska

@Basil I have no idea, but you could create a SR at EMC and get a proper answer for it

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@JourneymanGeek I always mark flags from the bridge as valid

they're too annoying to actually investigate

Journeyman Geek

I usually ignore them

cole

15:12

Just got a box to put all my stuff in :)

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@cole time to start singing "I want to break free"

cole

LOL

Dennis Kaarsemaker

given your specific circumstances, dressing up the way Freddy does in that video would be hilariously confusing :)

cole

I have to say, I feel a huge sense of relief and a weight off my shoulders knowing today's my last day.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

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Q: What combination of soft to select?

I'm thinking of upgrading my server soft along with OS. As of now, my VPS is running on Debian 6 with nginx (1.2.4) -> apache (2.2.16). My VPS specs are 1Gb RAM, 2 cores of Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5520 @ 2.27GHz. Now, here is the question. Which combo should I run? - nginx -> apache (2.4.x) -> PH...

KILL

Chris S

15:21

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Basil

@pauska I'll go that route if I can't find something on their site

thanks

Chris S

For anyone looking at houses/flats/condos/etc pictures LIE

Tanner

@ChrisS This pisses me off so much. What are they going to do when you walk in? Glue a fisheye lense to your face?

We're looking at places in Seattle right now and grrrrrrrrr...

MikeyB

WOW.

Just got an email from a customer saying they have a DOA switch and need a replacement:

Iain

ouch

voretaq7

15:29

@MikeyB Very.... um.... abstract

Post-Modern Deco Switch?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@MikeyB it's not dead, it's resting!

MikeyB

Mayhaps their receiving dock shouldn't have stacked that skid on top of the skid with electronics in it.

voretaq7

@DennisKaarsemaker It's NOT pining, it's been pinned!

I'm not sure you could even nail it to a perch with that....unique shape

TheCleaner

Screw you BootCamp!

Nathan C

Hm, another computer that lost contact with all DFS folders. Reboot fixed it...

Chris S

15:35

@MikeyB Did they try turning it off and back on?

MikeyB

@ChrisS I doubt they even bothered checking to see if it was plugged in.

Chris S

I'll bet it still works. I bought a 24-port 10Gb IB Switch on eBay like that for $40. Took it apart, bent everything back into shape. Works flawlessly, except one port's latching mechanism is broke.

MikeyB

I had a big-ass old school 12U telco 48V power supply that looked like a forklift ran into the front. Massive dent in the front, the circuit board inside was bent in about a 30° arc.
That motherfucker still worked and we put it into a lab, powering equipment.

Holy shit... so ^ that customer with the busted switch actually has a budget to cover damage to equipment by their receiving/stores department (it's a University).

YOU ARE SOLVING THE WRONG PROBLEM PEOPLE.

Ry Jones

@MikeyB it's tax dollars, they don't care

Chris S

@RyJones THIS

Nathan C

15:43

@MikeyB Have you tried bending it back and forth again?

MikeyB

@NathanC Yes, but it hurts when I do that. I need to wait for it to go down.

Nathan C

Total Price w/Discounts: $37,537.96 ...100 licenses of office 2013 from Dell >_>

voretaq7

@ChrisS @RyJones you seem to think that private universities behave any differently with their tuition dollars

MikeyB

@NathanC Home and business? T5D-01575?

Ry Jones

@voretaq7 those tuition dollars are also tax dollars, since they're student loans

Nathan C

15:48

@MikeyB "Standard"

voretaq7

@RyJones You mean the 8% interest student loans you can obtain through authorized private lenders?

Ry Jones

@NathanC so no Visio?

voretaq7

The government got out of the loan business a while ago - they were good at it, so they had to stop.

Nathan C

@RyJones Yeah, but we don't need it.

voretaq7

we're trying to streamline government to just one thing: Threatening shutdowns, and shutting down.

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(ok 2 things)

Ry Jones

15:49

@NathanC what? only Office program worth having outside of Excel, Outlook, and OneNote

Chris S

@voretaq7 The Business end of Schools are just f-cked up in general as they treat teachers like something other than replaceable employees.

Nathan C

@RyJones We don't have a use for visio :P

cole

One hour, and 10 minutes.

Surprisingly still doing work

Dennis Kaarsemaker

►

voretaq7

@ChrisS If your professors don't suck they are more than replaceable employees.

MikeyB

15:54

@NathanC Don't know which part offhand, they have so many, but I can do T5D-01575 (MICROSOFT OFFICE HOME AND BUSINESS 2013 MEDIALESS) for $222 each. That price sounds super high.

Ry Jones

@DennisKaarsemaker that song never gets old

Dennis Kaarsemaker

heh, sometimes the edit function is annoying

I was about to go all snarky :P

Ry Jones

@DennisKaarsemaker when I hovered over it originally, it didn't show that being in reply to anything.

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