The Comms Room

Ryan Ries

00:07

I'm itchin for more hardware for my home lab

Another hypervisor so I can do live migrations probably, because WHY THE HELL NOT

Cole

I wish I had room for a home lab.

Joel E Salas

@Cole I'm mostly concerned with power and noise

Cole

@JoelESalas yeah - that too

Not sure what to do with all these free time (again)

Ry Jones

00:27

@MikeyB hell my last two employers never removed me as admin from the apple accounts

@MDMarra the biggest complaint at Microsoft HR is showering or lack thereof

Sysadmin1138 Expounds

00:40

SysAdmin1138 Expounds: Descrimination in your Health Care plan

posted on August 23, 2013 by SysAdmin1138

With Manning announcing that she'll spend her 35 years of incarceration as a self-assigned woman, the US is getting a brief look at a particularly nasty state of affairs that been there for years. The US Army does not provide...

Cole

^welcome to my life

Joel E Salas

00:56

;_;

Cole

01:10

I feel so shallow for saying this but

why are only grossly overweight or highly unattractive women messaging me on OKCupid? Ugh :/

Michael Hampton

@Cole Those are the only kinds of women on there?

Cole

No - my ex Jenna I met on there - she's attractive and a health weight lol

Michael Hampton

ok, NX sounds nice, but they seem to have made it massively overcomplicated.

Ryan Ries

@MichaelHampton NX?

jscott

01:26

No Machine?

Ryan Ries

No Execute was my first instinct

Michael Hampton

Yes, No Machine.

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A: What is the difference between these 2 iptables rules?

Both of those sets of rules have problems, and you shouldn't use either of them as-is. In the first set, the first rule allows new incoming traffic to destination port 22 from anywhere. This isn't a problem. The first problem is that the second rule allows new incoming traffic to destination ...

Ah, good, one pet peeve ranted about.

Joel E Salas

@MichaelHampton Your example is exactly what my iptables config looks like

Michael Hampton

@JoelESalas I've seen that second iptables example from that question many times and it always pisses me off. I'm just glad I finally got a chance to call it out.

jscott

Have you a draft canonical "How does iptables work?" question/answer?

Michael Hampton

01:41

@jscott Naa...I'm afraid that might be too long.

Joel E Salas

edgebsd.org

Michael Hampton

Well, iptables on an endpoint is fine, it's very simple and (I used to think) hard to screw up. iptables on a router is a bloody mess.

Joel E Salas

can there ever be a BSD that hires a designer for like 20 minutes

jscott

@MichaelHampton ha! Longer than the IPv4 subnetting! Wow. 30000 chars.

Olipro

@MichaelHampton this is why ipset exists

of course, nftables isn't too far away now

Michael Hampton

01:52

What part of the kernel aren't they rewriting from scratch?

Olipro

uh, most of it

the vast majority of the core netfilter code is reused in nftables

Ryan Ries

02:09

Did anyone else love this game? youtube.com/watch?v=ozs6U0ZPGM0

Michael Hampton

@RyanRies I never played Final Fantasy anything.

MDMarra

@RyanRies ye

yesyesyes

I've played through it probably 10 times

Ryan Ries

@MichaelHampton That explains a lot about you... (just kidding sir)

@MDMarra It's my #1 video game of all time.

MDMarra

Anyone that doesn't use Sabin in all parties is an idiot

Ryan Ries

Of course... unless you hate 9999 dmg hits

MDMarra

02:14

even before you unlock bumrush, airblade is so good

jscott

Sorry, had to...

Ryan Ries

@jscott Guilty as charged

MDMarra

Ever bear Chupon in the arena for an Elixer?

Ryan Ries

But when you're near 30, there was this amazing phenomenon that occured in your teens called FF6 (FF3 if you were the US) that was epic. It's the only Final Fantasy game I have ever played, before or since.

MDMarra

Before he sneezes?

Ryan Ries

02:17

@MDMarra I don't think I ever beat him without sneezing my ass

I remember leveling to lvl 99 off of Tyranosauruses in the forest

I don't care for any of the new anime Final Fantasy BS, but FF3/6 was. the. shit.

MDMarra

I never have either, but apparently it's possible if you have max speed and a weapon that can cast stop

@RyanRies And brontosauruses drop the thing that lets you cast two spells at once!

something box

Ryan Ries

I'm on a playthrough now, very early in the World of Ruin right now

MDMarra

No wait!

Economizer!

thats what they drop

Ryan Ries

Haven't played in years

Yep, the good old Economizer

Loves it

Gotta get all those Experience Eggs too

MDMarra

yep

I remember the first time I played through and didn't wait for shadow and my cousin told me that if you waited he survives

My mind was blown

"How can they have half of the game be different!?!?"

Ryan Ries

02:23

Yeah... Shadow is one of the best characters in the game... I kinda' want to meet the first guy who just sat there at the very end of the floating continent and waited...

MDMarra

It would be better if sometimes he never came and you had to play that part over because you die

because that's kind of a hard part unless you've done some grinding

Ryan Ries

Here's something I exploited the shit out of... go that triangle island in the WoB where the invisible Intagir's show up... have Gau in your party, use Rhodox, he casts Snare, Intagir stops existing, you get 10 magic points... anything else and you all die...

MDMarra

that works?!

Ryan Ries

I feel proud because I figured that out in the 90s before there was Gamefaqs and shit, figured that out on my own

MDMarra

x-zone and death work as well since banish magic has 100% success rate on an enemy with invis

but rhodox is so much easier

Ryan Ries

02:25

Yep, I read that later, but I had never discovered that, I always went with the Rhodox thing

MDMarra

thats awesome

ever get all of the blue magic for strago?

Ryan Ries

No when it gets that late in the game, even my 14 year old self's attention span starts waning... I will try to get it all on this playthrough

MDMarra

yeah I never did either

its so hard to get all of the rages and blue magix

Oh and the first time I realized that Shadow was Relm's father, when I saw that they could both equip the memento ring!

I was like, whaaaaaaaat

such a great storyline

Ryan Ries

I started a playthrough about 6 months ago with the intent of doing a 100% run... but I'm pretty sure I have already missed at least a rage

MDMarra

it's hard

Michael Hampton

02:28

Did I mention, I REALLY HATE JAVA

MDMarra

You can get Pearl Dragon in the WoR Veldt but it's such a rare encounter

Michael Hampton

Ryan Ries

@MichaelHampton Me too

MDMarra

I spend, literally hours looking for it one day

then gave up

If you're still in the WoB though, you can get all the rages. If you miss any WoB-specific monsters, then you cant do a 100% run once you enter WoR

Ryan Ries

@MDMarra Ugh... yeah it will probably fall apart towards the end... I'm doing pretty well as far as a completionist run, but shit... I'm a 30 year-old man, I ain't gone time for spending hours on the veldt looking for pearl dragn :P

MDMarra

02:29

haha yup

And who uses Gau anyway

I always start out like "Yeah, gonna do this" but then never use him outside of split-party situations where there arent enough guys

Ryan Ries

According the walkthroughs I've read, there are a couple of very discrete scenes in the WoB where if you don't specifically run into some monsters, which are VERY easily missed, they will never show up on the veldt, not even in the WoB

Such as, during Terra's return to Narshe

MDMarra

I remember there was a rumor that you could revive General Leo and I spend like a whole day trying to figure it out

Ryan Ries

He was a such a bad ass, who wouldn't want to try

MDMarra

I have a half finished game of IV on my iPad

No motivation to get sucked back into it

Ryan Ries

Although after I got my first genji glove + offering combo, I was like, "I see what you did there, General Leo"

MDMarra

02:32

yup

Do you do the "No three times to Banon" thing right after Figaro Castle?

Ryan Ries

Yeah

MDMarra

I always thought that was weird. You need to be uncooperative to get the better item

But it makes her a reluctant hero, I suppose

Ryan Ries

It's awesome to know that I'm not the only one around here completely obsessed with that old game

MDMarra

yup

Dude, I've owned almost all of them. I've beaten them all up to XI

X-2 was an abortion, XIII was awful

I only played like 5 hours of it

I bought a PS3 just for it. It was too crazy for me

Ryan Ries

When I was like 14 I rember I wrote Square Enix (maybe it was just Square or Squaresoft back then) a physical letter just to let them know how awesome the game was.

MDMarra

02:35

Give me 2D top-down turn-based

Journeyman Geek

it was probably square

MDMarra

My cousin did the Banon lvl99 trick and I remember how blown my mind was

Journeyman Geek

Square Enix is still primarily a publisher, and are awesome.

Ryan Ries

@MDMarra Yeah I never had that patience for that, though emulators make it super easy these days

MDMarra

He taped down a turbo controller and checked it the next day

Ryan Ries

02:37

Yep, haha

MDMarra

But yeah, I've played way too much FF IV and VI

l0c0b0x

Yo

Ryan Ries

@l0c0b0x Whats up

@MDMarra Same

This is the weirdest thing... I have no idea why this question is getting so many upvotes... it seemed like plain common sense to me, but apparently the whole world was just waiting for this answer:

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Q: Why does computer name change require a reboot in Windows?

I understand that changing the host name/computer name for a Windows based machine (Client or Server) requires a reboot. I realize that once a computer name is changed, a pending machine name is stored in the system registry and is applied on next boot. I was not able to find much technical docum...

windows

My most upvoted question to date

l0c0b0x

Hey Ryan

Ryan Ries

Meanwhile, I can spend days doing diligent resarch and write a 5000-word answer on something arcane, and get maybe 2 upvotes if I'm lucky

jscott

02:44

@RyanRies The question's title is near google-perfect user input. Good answer to a basic question.

MDMarra

@RyanRies Dude, I got +71 for explaining the difference between Mb and MB

2

It's a crazy world out there

l0c0b0x

...was thinking the same, clear answers cause more satisfaction to the reader.

jscott

@RyanRies I've considered deleting my most upboated answer because it's totally anecdotal and devoid of references.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Michael Hampton

@jscott Why? It's still a good answer.

l0c0b0x

02:49

I think one of my most upvoted answers was about detailing how inappropriate it is to work in an environment where system admins were doing server work, WHILE DRUNK!

Ryan Ries

@MDMarra Here's a French dude being awesome

Journeyman Geek

lol

my most upvoted answer on SU was basically an ugly bash script. (And I posted my second most upvoted answer high on flu meds)

jscott

@MichaelHampton I feel like the OP was looking for documentation on the question. For whatever reason, my answer took off [in votes only] and I don't think it was really sufficient.

Journeyman Geek

I've also gotten a crapload of rep for screenshots on OSes I really ought not to be running ;p

Michael Hampton

@jscott You can always edit it. In the meantime, here, have a gold badge.

Ryan Ries

02:54

@MDMarra Somehow the link didn't seem to make it through there... youtube.com/watch?v=N1QgLqWb0rE

jscott

@MichaelHampton Thanks. The weird thing is that I wish I could provide them with links to MS docs about how often they need to perform restarts... But I don't know of any!

MDMarra

@RyanRies Airship music!

jscott

@RyanRies Oh. my. goodness.

l0c0b0x

Do you guys think serverfault would be a good place to ask about how to best relate technology (IT infrastructure) concepts to a operations/maintenance director?... if not, any suggestions would be highly appreciated!

Michael Hampton

@jscott technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753185.aspx

@jscott blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/11/14/…

jscott

03:05

@l0c0b0x I'm not sure the SF present favors such questions. :( It seems the focus is direct on the use of thing, not the human side. Maybe workplace.stackexchange.com ?

@MichaelHampton ty, reading..

l0c0b0x

sweet!... It would be nice to have human-element based questions for IT, but 'workplace' is a good start. Thank you @jscott

Michael Hampton

I could probably find more, but that's a good starting point.

jscott

@MichaelHampton I'm still struggling to say something "real". Both links are very informative, but neither says "you need to reboot at least every 497 days" :)

Michael Hampton

@jscott There is no such guidance.

> Ideally, we would like all update installations to happen seamlessly in the background without a restart. But, in reality, there are situations where the installer is not able to update files because they are in use. In these cases, we need to restart your machine to complete the installation.

MS seems to want you to reboot as little as possible, but in no case less often than every time they publish a security update. In effect, monthly.

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jscott

03:22

@MichaelHampton Indeed, effectively. The Allow Automatic Update Immediate Installation is a nice option to enable.

Miles Erickson

@MichaelHampton Exactly right.

Michael Hampton

04:06

Personally I disagree with it being too broad, as they are all made to be feature compatible, when possible, so there are likely only a few differences if any. I can't seem to find any though (I put a few hours into it before asking here). Would it be appropriate for me to flag this for being reopened if I discover any differences, so I can document them here? — FakeRainBrigand 37 secs ago

Someone want to have a go at this guy?

Journeyman Geek

05:49

serverfault.com/questions/533159/read-before-deleted-by-mods please kill with fire kthx

dawud

06:10

morning

Joel E Salas

sup

Falcon Momot

06:27

doom on all the things

Journeyman Geek

@FalconMomot: did you catch the crazy?

Falcon Momot

which crazy?

I got searched twice on my trip

Journeyman Geek

one moment, I screenshotted it

Falcon Momot

and when I walked back into my building, someone's kid had projectile vomited all over the elevator

Journeyman Geek

same thing got posted on SU

(ff screenshot tool is awesome once you work out how to use it ;p)

Michael Hampton

06:37

Fucker's still at it. Better break out the heavy artillery.

Falcon Momot

huh. either it is an opportunist scam, or a lot of cocaine.

Michael Hampton

Ahhh.. dump and reload the database is my favorite thing to do at 2:30 in the morning.

Falcon Momot

wooo my new business has landed its first contract

life is the best thing in the world

longcat is long

Iain

@MichaelHampton isn't that just mid afternoon of your normal day ?

Michael Hampton

@Iain Naaa.. I should be going to bed soon.

Falcon Momot

06:46

the great soviet union will live through the ages, the dream of a people, their fortress secure!

catcalls

Iain

@MichaelHampton :(

Michael Hampton

@Iain Your opinion on this?

serverfault.com/questions/533134/…

Falcon Momot

@MichaelHampton sleep is for the dead.

Michael Hampton

Oooh, he self-deleted

Falcon Momot

though I was not asked, I think any question with that title is, 99 to 1, a shopping question.

Iain

06:48

@MichaelHampton too lazy, needs a matrix should make it himself - too broad

Journeyman Geek

@FalconMomot: I am tempted to think the latter. Or at the very least baking soda.

Michael Hampton

I didn't have a "too lazy" close reason...

Journeyman Geek

@FalconMomot: interestingly, I THINK I have that one

and the newer version

Falcon Momot

@JourneymanGeek Lorem ipsum, dolor sit amet...

Iain

@MichaelHampton to answer that you either have to have the info to hand or you have to go make a feature matrix ... it's consulting and he's a dev looking for a handout

Journeyman Geek

06:52

@Iain: and there's other reasons to go with things other than apache that wouldn't turn up

(memory use for example)

Falcon Momot

why all the hate on apache lately?

Iain

@FalconMomot because

Falcon Momot

you can run it reasonably lean, and it can really help with density if you happen to have multiple sites

Journeyman Geek

@FalconMomot: I consider apache the default

Falcon Momot

it's when you are running like... apache with mod_perl and mod_php and 60 name-based vhosts with the prefork MPM that it starts to look horrid

Journeyman Geek

06:54

that's to say, unless you have specific needs, its a safe bet

Falcon Momot

another quirk is that the various interpreters and handlers it loads are all counted against its monolithic memory total, and if you are also using it to cache...

Journeyman Geek

(of course a lot of stuff these days runs directly as part of the web framework they are based off of, which from a dev perspective means that you don't really need a web server as much as load balancing and all that jazz)

Michael Hampton

Scripting languages should not have built-in web servers...

Falcon Momot

+9

Michael Hampton

Oh...and the latest one? PHP got a webserver in 5.4. Can't wait to see how that gets abused.

Falcon Momot

06:59

if you want to write anything in PHP you should have to write a formal one-page justification.

("everyone uses PHP" and "PHP is easy" do not take up a whole page)

Journeyman Geek

lol

@MichaelHampton: more like 'what webserver you use may not be THAT important, if you're a dev'

and I was thinking python ;p

Michael Hampton

At least with Python the web server isn't a core language construct!

Journeyman Geek

naw, it isn't, but I didn't insinuate that. I intentionally said frameworks ;p

Joel E Salas

@JourneymanGeek You're a framework

Journeyman Geek

@JoelESalas: possibly

Falcon Momot

07:10

Speak no more of frameworks!

Iain

There should be a close reason - We shouldn't have to tell you what the error message tells you

Falcon Momot

@Iain You can write your own, yes?

Journeyman Geek

07:47

yup

if you're the first one to VTC I think

Miles Erickson

@MDMarra What do you expect HP to do... expand?

Tom O'Connor

08:40

Friend: "Can you recommend a router/firewall for me?" Me: "Yes, sure." Friend: "Can you recommend a router for less than $200?" Me: Fffuuuuu

dawud

09:45

"I ran shutdown -r on a remote server and I lost my ssh connection with it.". O RLY? I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. http://serverfault.com/questions/533193/ssh-works-but-putty-cant-connect-to-port-22

RobM

10:33

I hate Adobe

Trying to do an enterprise deployment of Master Suite.

Miles Erickson

@RobM You don't like powerful yet shockingly defective software?

RobM

A brief extract from my install instructions for the team, to give you a taste:

Before deploying the rest of Master Suite, we need to install a trial copy of Acrobat X Professional. Due to the fact that the Adobe installer team are evil trolls who hate other people, we do not have a licence for Acrobat X Pro directly (the master suite one will not work directly on acrobat) so it needs to be installed as a _trial_ copy of acrobat professional _prior_ to installing the rest of the master suite and it needs to be installed specifically as an “exception” to the Adobe Master Suite package. The…

@MilesErickson go ahead and guess how my last day or so has been, from reading that!

Miles Erickson

@RobM Wha...

@RobM Worse than anticipated. Why does there need to be a pre-existing installation of Acrobat Pro?

RobM

Because on Windows, the full install of Master Suite or Creative Suite does not include Acrobat Pro, even though that's part of the suite

It's a separate install because the acrobat team like to do their own thing

and you can't licence your acrobat install directly with your master/creative suite key

so you install a trial version of acrobat pro first

Miles Erickson

@RobM Got it.

RobM

10:37

then install master suite, which says "hey this guy has a trial copy of acrobat pro, we can totally licence that for him"

on the plus side, I've reduced all this to two commands that need to be run in order, so actually it won't be too bad to just roll this out via SCCM in the end... we just need to make sure the SCCM install routine for Master Suite tests that Acrobat is installed first and waits until it is.

Miles Erickson

@RobM Shouldn't be hard to do.

RobM

Incidentally, the mac version of the installer (we have lots of macs and lots of PCs so need to do both) does include Acrobat as part of the main package.

And the adobe enterprise packaging tools that produced a working but complicated installation for Windows are failing to produce a working version of the simplified Mac OSX install.

Confused yet?

Miles Erickson

@RobM It's fascinating, because on the one hand we're all on notice that the entire profession of administration will soon be phased out due to superior engineering, and on the other hand, this is how we spend our time.

RobM

Yeah. There might be fewer tasks to do but the tasks seem to be becoming more complex

Miles Erickson

@RobM Suits me just fine. I never wanted tape rotation to be part of my job description.

@RobM Complicated scripting opportunity? Bring it.

RobM

10:45

True enough... though actually that's one of the things that can't be automated. We can make the tape hoppers bigger and we can improve how well the ILO modules work but you still need someone to push a button or load a tape library or install a disk somewhere

and you still need people to design complex network systems and others to write complex scripts to make the designs happen

its the middle that will be squeezed I think...

Miles Erickson

Yep.

That's exactly right, I think.

Iain

anyone know how I can message someone on trello - I've been added to a board and I'm fairly sure they got the wrong person

RobM

I don't know that you can other than kludges like leaving a card with a message on there

Miles Erickson

That's what I'd figure, too.

Iain

that's where I'm heading

RobM

10:52

I quite like Trello but it's a little basic... in some ways that's a good thing but sometimes it would be nice if...

Miles Erickson

You can assign your WTF card to whomever added you.

Iain

it looks like I have 3 trello accounts too and 1 I can't remember how to access or it's email address

Miles Erickson

Any cloud service that does not allow accounts to be linked or merged arbitrarily is begging for our wrath.

RobM

I blame devops.

Iain

I blame forgetfulness

I'm sure I have the username Iain but I can't remember the email address I used

Dennis Kaarsemaker

10:54

I blame it on the rain

Iain

or the password

Miles Erickson

And it won't let you recover the username?

Blah.

Iain

@MilesErickson no, it insists on an email address

when trying to recover an account

I just added my Iain account to a board - let's see if I get an email anywhere

Miles Erickson

Yep, now you're into "what would I do if one of my users presented this problem to me?" territory.

RobM

11:20

superuser.com/questions/635695/read-before-deleted-by-mods

Miles Erickson

Missed it.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

missed it too

wasn't there something like that on SF a few hours ago?

RobM

shame. It was a master work of insanity

Dennis Kaarsemaker

if you still have it open on a tab, pastebin :)

RobM

sadly no, I tabbed out of it to check something :-|

Journeyman Geek

11:32

yeah

I have a screenshot of that, actually

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@DennisKaarsemaker there you go

and probably @MilesErickson too

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@JourneymanGeek your comment is rubbish. The proper phrasing is "What drugs are you on, and where can I get some?" :)

Journeyman Geek

@DennisKaarsemaker: I apologise. I come from a country where drugs and fun are illegal ;p

(that said, this is the first time that I actually got to use firefox's screenshot tool. That is awesome)

RobM

12:00

that's the fella

Cole

Sup

RobM

Hey Cole

Dennis Kaarsemaker

'ello

Cole

What's going on?

Journeyman Geek

just a whole load of crazy

RobM

12:11

@cole I hate adobe.

That's what's going on with me

Cole

@RobM ah I hate Lotus Notes

RobM

I think we all hate lotus notes! But the adobe enterprise deployment stuff is a bit special... chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/10915393#10915393

Lotus Notes is a living example of doing things to your users rather than for your users though.

Cole

@RobM wow that blows.

I love how we have this huge project list that keeps growing and my manager has been taking almost every Friday off and has already taken 2 vacations

RobM

Yes... and now I'm trying to get the mac version working.

@cole that's awesome of them.

Cole

Yep - he took today off and told no one.

This weekend I'm rewriting my resume, I can't take the BS. I've tried.

RobM

12:16

Don't blame you, you've been unhappy there for a while.

Cole

@RobM I thought maybe it was just me expecting too much - but nope. No one gives a shit and it's starting to affect my attitude to things outside of work.

RobM

It's easier said than done, I appreciate that, but whatever happens you need to try and leave work at work or it will eat you up.

Cole

@RobM Which I've tried - but when I'm getting bombarded with emails after work and no one seems to get calls except me when I'm on call. (Mostly because I think the help desk guys don't want to be screamed at by the other guys for calling)

RobM

Oh... yeah well if they won't let you leave work at work then that's different. Fuck 'em, get a new job mate :)

Cole

brb breakfast

ewwhite

12:34

Some weird-ass questions today.

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Q: auth on msa2324fc via xml api failed

I'll try to use my script ( which has been written for msa p2000 g3 ) with old san array msa2324. It seems like array actualy do authorization and return session key, but my next request ( with sessionKey cookie ) stil return "Unauthorized access requested". See screenshots below I had rebooted ...

hp api

0

Q: IT Pro tool to make a cartography of server/services with implact analysis

First I'm sorry of not being able to find better tags for this question. I'm running the IT in a small company on my spare time, and I'd like to find a tool that would help me for the following tasks: List all the resources of my IT (servers, virtual machines, switch, etc.) List all the servic...

windows configuration tools topology

0

Q: How to connect two vswitches in vsphere client 5?

We just had a server installed and the guy doing the installation put our server, internet access etc on one vswitch and then connected the other to our storage server, which obviously our VMs need to be able to access, which is something we can't do while they're on different switches. Can anyon...

vmware-esxi vswitch

Chris S

Came in to a note on my desk this morning...
Chris,
There is a serious infection problem with my computer making it unusable.
-User

HaydnWVN

Anyone got any tips for how to get into Win8 repair from a laptop that won't boot and won't let me eject the CDROM to boot from something? I'm building a PE on USB as can't think of anything else lol

Shift + F8 doesn't seem to work!?

lol 'infection'

ewwhite

@ChrisS Monkeypox?

HaydnWVN

remove user, replace with monkey, problem solved.

RobM

luserititis

Chris S

12:39

@ewwhite Anti-Virus Virus

jscott

@HaydnWVN paperclip in eject hole.

HaydnWVN

@ChrisS Sure it's not just 'mouse unplugged' due to micepox scare? 'making it unusable' ;)

@jscott No eject hole, no eject button

jscott

@HaydnWVN how does that work? :)

HaydnWVN

keyboard shotcut of Fn+Delete to eject CD-ROM doesn't seem to work unless it's in the OS

Dennis Kaarsemaker

screwdriver and pliers

or smash it with an anvil

HaydnWVN

12:42

@DennisKaarsemaker Tempted to do similar, terminal-velocity + window

Dennis Kaarsemaker

20th story frisbee!

HaydnWVN

Can't really though as it's my sisters and i'll never hear the end of it

Samsung Series 7 Chronos - warning stay away

ewwhite

-1

Q: Two different servers, how to join them together

all can anyone help me, I have a bukkit server with 40 slots and a friend of mine has a bukkit server two with 10 slots. They are different server and we would like to join them. E.G so people join My server first and then walk though a portal and they get to his server. We have been on a few dif...

ip

where do these people come from?

RobM

I think that might actually be on topic, albeit poorly written, on arquade...

Chris S

@HaydnWVN Also, try F2, F10, and F12... Sometimes they work

ewwhite

12:44

@RobM I can never tell

RobM

yeah

but she's talking about minecraft so...

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ewwhite I has a bukkit!

HaydnWVN

@ChrisS facemashing now

ewwhite

@DennisKaarsemaker I don't know what that means.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ewwhite google.co.uk/…

RobM

12:49

I think I've cracked the Adobe Mac deployment too...

faker

@ewwhite it's a non-standard minecraft server

RobM

I still hate adobe though. Wankers

MDMarra

@RobM I just crammed it into a disk imaged and captured with deploystudio

Of course, Acrobat Pro breaks when you do that (at least CS5 on 10.6 did) but no one uses that :)

RobM

@mdmarra I'm told that doesn't work in CS6 any more. Each install is activated/licenced to the machine its installed on, so if you do an image install then the licence fails on the machines you install the image onto

MDMarra

Even with a volume license?

What a joke

RobM

12:53

of course you can do an imaged install of a trial version of CS6 then serialise the install after.

Yes, even with a volume licence

The deployment is a right pain in the hoop on both Windows and OSX

MDMarra

Of course, I'm a thin image kinda guy anyway. but I couldn't be bothered to figure out how to script those installs for two OS X labs

Windows isn't so bad once you master their customization tool and get a .mst that works

Of course, that took me about a week, since each test install takes like TWO hours

RobM

It looks like my last OSX .pkg file build is working so we can push that out to our macs with SCCM

MDMarra

Are you going to blog about OS X deployment with SCCM or what?!

RobM

@MDMarra with CS6 at least, the windows install is pretty dumb

Basil

morning

ewwhite

12:55

I sometimes feel like DevOps jobs just make up things and tech keywords in their ads...

Our applications heavily utilize Amazon Web Services (services in use include EC2, ELB, SQS, Route 53, S3, EBS, CloudFront, CloudFormation) as well as memcached, RabbitMQ, Chef, Puppet, LAMP (Ubuntu), MySQL clustering, Splunk, New Relic, GitHub, and more. We code in a variety of languages with an emphasis on AngularJS, Ruby and Clojure.

Basil

So I've started playing around with Unity. I think I'm going to make a game.

Chris S

@ewwhite That questions seriously smacks of "I don't want to pay for IT Support, so I want a piece of software that completely replaces it". If it was that easy, we'd all be doing it in the first place. >=[

RobM

@MDMarra we plan to. we're using the Parallels SCCM client for mac which is much better than the MS SCCM client for mac, and the parallels client should allow us to deploy OSX directly from SCCM the same as Windows. Once we have that nailed I think we'll have something interesting to blog about

MDMarra

Can anyone explain why sorting email by sender or mail header is a server-side rule but sorting by recipient is a client side rule? How does that make sense?

@RobM woah

Ryan Ries

The amount of stupid RDP questions on SF is too damn high!

Basil

12:56

@MDMarra I assume microsoft is rife with devops.

MDMarra

There's a third party SCCM client?!

RobM

@mdmarra yeah..and its awesome

MDMarra

Is it an add-on for SCCM as well on the server side? Or is it just a client?

RobM

parallels.com/products/mac-management/sccm

MDMarra

Nice

RobM

12:58

It's a client, plus a small proxy service on the management point

so it lets you manage macs fully, plus virtualised windows installs inside the macs, all via SCCM.

Not that we use virtual windows images here, but if you did then being able to manage them would be nice.

MDMarra

I'm trying to get a partnership going with Cireson for SCSM stuff. After that I think we're going to have to reach out to Parallels

Cole

And back

Chris S

That product makes me all O_o
First, it's from Parallels, the makers of Plesk
Second, it "extends" SCCM... I'm not fond of official extensions, they tend to be hard as h*ll to use. Third-party just gives me the shivers.

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