The Comms Room

Chris S

14:01

"Read the full legal yada yada at the bottom of this page about this feature." - Gotta love when companies have a sense of humor

Cole

Thank god:

Jacob

No freehand circles, How are we supposed to know what to look at?

Cole

Shut down from the start button!

Dan

Is that with the new update?

Cole

@Dan Windows 2012 R2 - and 8.1 is getting it too.

Dan

14:10

Cool

Chopper3

@Cole 8.1?

@Cole that's tomorrow isn't it? or is it out now?

Cole

@Chopper3 tomorrow.

Will be installing it. (Hope is doesn't blow up my laptop)

Chopper3

ah - bum, got the second beta of iOS 7 yesterday, so was rather hoping that would have been today, oh well, I can wait

Cole

How's iOS7

Ryan Ries

I'm currently debating with myself about whether to reformat my work laptop and put Win 8.1 on it

Just want to make sure I can still do all my work without being joined to the corporate domain :)

Exchange and Lync are fine

VPN is good

Mathias R. Jessen

14:26

@Cole Is that an actual Start Menu button?

Cole

@MathiasR.Jessen just launches the dashboard

Right clicking it gives you that list.

GhostToast

I wonder what all those "pay for start menu" companies are going to do now

Mathias R. Jessen

@Cole Still way better than before

Cole

@GhostToast "shit"

GhostToast

@Cole actually if that blue thing is what happens when you click on start menu, i might stick with my hack-start menu =/

Chris S

14:30

@Cole Mind that you can't upgrade the preview to the final version. So you'll be stuck there until you reinstall

Journeyman Geek

@GhostToast: most of them still offer you the old school startmenus, which some people still want

Chris S

@GhostToast Get used to the Start Screen - The Start Menu always ends up the same way on every computer I've seen:

That's an unusable mess - and you degrade to using the Search function to finding programs (which works rather well, and still so in Win8)

Cole

@ChrisS Just playing around with it. No production going on here. Curious about the file server stuff really.

GhostToast

@ChrisS THat's just too many programs.

Cole

Also - thoughts on Fiat's?

Chris S

14:33

@Cole The car? Small and uninspired.

GhostToast

yea i use that piko one or whatever it's called. and just search 99% of the time if i haven't favorited(*) it

Cole

@ChrisS yeah, lady friend wants one.

Chris S

@Cole Whatever turns her crank.... I don't get why some car companies are still around or have any customers at all - but I've got a better sense of style than most I suppose.

Cole

Drives a 2008 Hyundai Accent now and the tranny is going (lulz not me but in the car)

Chris S

@Cole Ugh, she's really got no sense of style at all

Cole

14:35

@ChrisS t'was cheap on a college kid's $14K salary

tombull89

Quite like the 500s, but that's the only Fiat I really known

GhostToast

ugh. trying to get exchange server to ignore fact that i'm using multi domain SSL - no common name. anyone ever encounter this?

Cole

@tombull89 she's looking at the 500 Pop's

Chris S

@Cole Cheap doesn't make up for "ugly death trap" in my book - but again, I'm not most people

Cole

She has $3000 to put down.

Dan

14:36

The Fiat 500's are lovely, but they aren't cheap

Cole

@ChrisS Hey, I'm not a fan of them. I'd rather her get some practical

@Dan can get a Fiat 500 Pop for $19K

Dan

I have no idea what that is in terms of other cars

Chris S

@Cole She's thinking about buying a new car without having cash to buy it outright? She likes being in debt and wasting money?

Cole

@ChrisS my car is financed.

I don't know anyone, who's bought their car outright.

Not saying that's good, but my car had 130K miles on it and was on it's last leg.

Dan

I'd never buy a brand new car, but no, over here people don't buy brand new cars with cash. Ironically, finance is often a way to get a reasonable deal

Cole

14:37

Mine's used.

I told her to go used.

Chris S

@Dan 19K is somewhat cheap for a new car - but buying a new car is nearly stupid, more of a status symbol than practical.

Jenny D

@ChrisS I've never had my start menu looking like that.

Chris S

@Cole I've never financed a car. Never.

Dan

@ChrisS I kind of agree, but let's face it, do any of us need half the things we buy

Cole

Wish I could afford to just buy a car outright.

Dan

14:38

@ChrisS A brand new car, though?

Cole

But I made a lot of stupid mistakes.

Mathias R. Jessen

@JennyD You've never really been a true Windoze Zuper User, have you?

Dennis Kaarsemaker

I've never bought a new car

Cole

I'm paying for them now, but at least I'm learning from them now.

Chris S

@Dan Heck no - Don't get me wrong, if you want a status symbol go for it. But don't whine about how broke you are then finance your life until you're a slave to your loan payments.

Jenny D

14:39

@MathiasR.Jessen Probably not. But whenever my start menu grows more than one panel, I start using sub folders

Cole

I told her to just get the transmission fixed on the Accent.

Chris S

Just like buying the newest iPhone or iPad

Cole

I'm going to talk to her step-dad and mom, try to get them to urge her to do the same.

Dan

@ChrisS True true - Jane and I will be 100% debt free before we take out a mortgage

Chris S

@Cole Can't be more than $1000 give or take...

Jenny D

14:40

@Cole I bought my first car outright. It was the cheapest one at the dealer that wasn't too crappy to be allowed on the road.

Cole

@ChrisS especially if she has $3000 to put down.

Just put the $1K towards the tranny.

Again, the car not me

:P but if she wants to give me $1K - that's cool too.

Dan

There's something to be said for fixing an old car rather than taking a gamble on another, but that argument does fall down a little when the alternative is brand new

Chris S

@Cole I think it's regional but you'd be a "Trany" here and the car has a "Tranny"

Mathias R. Jessen

@JennyD Whenever my Start Menu grows... well, I don't even notice, I don't use it :D

Dan

It's called a gearbox.

Jenny D

14:41

@MathiasR.Jessen Work uses Windows...

Chris S

@Dan It's called a Transaxle in most FWD cars.

Cole

My old car, 2006 Cobalt LT - I had put $2K into it already and need another $3K+ of work.

Mathias R. Jessen

Oh, I work Windows all the time too, but (almost) everything can be done from either a browser, powershell or the good old "Run" prompt

Cole

I was commuting 80 miles a day, so decided to get a reliable car.

Dan

@ChrisS Doesn't the shortening of tranny come from transmission, though, rather than transaxle?

Chris S

14:42

My car is a 2002 Chevy Malibu that I stole from my wife when my 2000 Pontiac Grand AM's tranny dropped out the bottom and she got a 2009 Torrent

Cole

I have to say, she's very lucky. I got her a job making $37K right out of college.

Chris S

@Dan Yes - Transaxle is itself a portmanteau of Transmission and Axle.

Dan

@ChrisS Just checking, it's not really something we'd say over here. RWD cars can have transaxles, too, though!

Chris S

@Dan Yeah, if the engine is mounted transversely then it's probably got a transaxle. Mid and Rear engine cars are crazy rare in the colonies through.

WesleyDavid

scratches drapes

Dan

14:44

@ChrisS Yeah

Cole

Someone get the spray bottle. @WesleyDavid is here.

tombull89

gives @WesleyDavid catnip

WesleyDavid

@Cole Nooooooo!! @voretaq7 spikes it with bleach. =(

Cole

Trying to figure out how to view my paystubs.

Dan

Anyway, @Cole, what's wrong with the gearbox/transmission/transaxle/differential?

Cole

14:47

@Dan no idea, she just said the replaced the cylinders and they said the transmission is going to need work

Then again she's a woman, so I don't know how accurate that is.

(Kidding, she's just a woman that has hit everything but the lottery with her car.)

Dan

@Cole That's properly vague! It's not the clutch, is it? :D

Cole

@Dan I'm going to ask her step-dad

Chris S

@Cole Replaced cylinders?? That sound less than fully accurate...

Cole

@ChrisS I have no idea.

I was like "...wat?"

Chris S

@Cole Is it a stick???

Cole

14:49

Nope.

Chris S

No clutch then

Cole

She's a terrible driver - she'd never be able to drive stick.

Dan

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting you guys are scared of real cars

2

Chris S

=]

Cole

She fully admits that she a.) sucks at driving b.) that's too much work.

ewwhite

14:49

@Dan :(

Cole

@Dan I just don't want to have to shift in miles of traffic in Boston.

Dan

@Cole Oh, if you ever visit the UK you'll rapidly find being a shit driver is no issue when it comes to driving a manual

Cole

Hence going auto instead of stick.

tombull89

@Dan Never mind that, what about not being allowed to pump your own fuel in some states? That's the weirdest to me.

Chris S

@Dan I can drive a stick - but the cars I want to drive don't come with manual transmissions... so no choice.

ewwhite

14:50

Exactly...

Dan

@ChrisS What decent car doesn't come with manual?

Or at least DSG, that I can get in on

ewwhite

I refuse to let my lack of a manual transmission make me feel like less of a man!

Chris S

@Dan 99% of cars here

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Dan that disease is spreading. I'm looking for a used Q5 and almost all of them are automatic :(

Dan

@ChrisS Oh.

@ChrisS What cars do you like?

Chris S

14:52

@Dan I'm generally a fan of GM vehicles...

My family has owned a lot of Pontiacs over the years

Dan

Ah, yeah, domestics I guess. We just don't see them over here

Olipro

Poor Old Nooblet Thinks It's A Cadillac

Chris S

I'm just looking at the Vauxhalls, they're strange looking...

Dan

I thought it would be cool with Chevrolet started pushing out here, but frankly, they'r e beyond shit

WesleyDavid

@ewwhite Plus, all your bikes have a manual transmission, so you make up for it.

Dan

14:53

@ChrisS Vauxall as in UK Vauxhall?

WesleyDavid

@Dan Every Chevy I've driven has been a bucket of bolts. Poorly machined bolts at that. =/

Olipro

"Opel" everywhere else

Chris S

@Dan Yes... Like GM made in UK.

Cole

@ChrisS My sister's Pontiac Vibe (RIP now) and G6 have had zero issues.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

Opel. Wir leben autos.

Cole

14:54

My Cobalt started having serious issues around 80K

Chris S

@DennisKaarsemaker Opel, GM made in Germany....

Dan

@ChrisS Yeah, Opel is owned by Gm

Chris S

@Dan Do you know if they put the little silver GM badges on the sides of Vauxhall vehicles?

Dan

@ChrisS Haha, most definitely not

I doubt most people even know they're owned by GM, after Opel

Chris S

Interesting

Dan

14:57

Opel are left much to their own devices. I'm not really sure how Vauxhall quite fits in, from what I gather they're 99% the same as what Opel engineers with different badges and sometimes styling

Chris S

Funny, several of the Vauxhall and Opel vehicles are the same frames that are used in Chevy vehicles, but others I've never seen before.

Dan

But in the UK, you'd never know that without researching

Our Fords are quite different to yours, too, I believe

Chris S

@Dan From what I gather about half the vehicles are rebadged US GM vehicles, and the other half are homegrown. Seems to be about the same with Holden (Australia)

Dan

@ChrisS Holden just uses Opel

I'm not sure on the GM stuff, though

dawud

How this Q got upvoted?

1

Q: Zabbix on amazon ec2. Installation

I've read about mikoomi. And I it is not suitable for me. I do not have access to secret key. I want to install and use zabbix server and agent itself on instances. Is it good idea? And here is the problem: during: yum install zabbix-server-pgsql zabbix-web-pgsql zabbix-agent I got: Error:...

Chris S

15:04

WTF GM, Why does Holden have a better looking Malibu than Chevy?!

Hrm, apparently Chevy has a couple new vehicles I haven't seen before, look like the Opel/Vauxhall/Holden vehicles I was just looking at.

Also, most GM vehicles in the UK are available with diesel engines, you can't even special order those here. Some of the trucks you can get with a diesel, but that's it.

Michael Hampton

0

A: Zabbix on amazon ec2. Installation

You installed Apache 2.4 from a third party repository. These packages conflict with the default Apache packages provided with CentOS (which indicates poor design on the part of the repository maintainer, but that's an issue for another day). To resolve the issue, remove the offending packages. ...

voretaq7

@ChrisS EU/UK/AUS has a healthy biodiesel industry. Ours is virtually nonexistent

Dan

@ChrisS Yeah, diesel has become hugely popular over here. That said, some commentators see a big future for small 1400 - 1600cc turbo petrol engines

I drive one, in fact

voretaq7

@Dan I see a bigger future for diesel personally. An engine designed to run on effectively any fuel

Stupid Americans have a problem with them though

Dan

@voretaq7 I wouldn't go that far, modern diesel engines are complex, fussy, expensive to buy and fix

I'm actually quite picky on where I get my fuel from

Chris S

15:14

I see Electric-Hybrid (note that's different from the gas-hybrid systems in current cars) as the future. The petrol/diesel engine would probably be a very small turbo Atkinson or Wankel.

@voretaq7 The diesel here stinks - it has sulfur and isn't biodiesel.

voretaq7

@ChrisS all US diesel is low-sulfur now

Cole

Anyone using an appliance (like Infoblox) for DNS/DHCP installed of Windows Server?

Chris S

@voretaq7 low isn't "no"

@Cole Madness - This is Madness!

voretaq7

@ChrisS what they have in the EU/UK isn't "no" either (neither is gasoline)

tombull89

@ChrisS madness?

Chris S

15:18

@voretaq7 Whatever they have in Europe I've been told it doesn't stink... What's at the gas stations around here stinks.

voretaq7

properly maintained diesel engines burning US spec highway diesel don't smell. or smoke. or exhibit any of the unsavory characteristics except the "WAIT" light in the northeast

Chris S

@tombull89 Having a Windows network and not using Windows DHCP & DNS.

@voretaq7 Wait light can be overcome by plugging it in... minor inconvenience. And if you're running electric-hybrid you wouldn't care anyway.

I don't care for the scent of any exhaust, diesel or petrol. But it's not a problem either way with a properly running engine.

I'm only talking about the scent of the fuel itself.

voretaq7

@ChrisS what we're selling now has 15ppm sulfur maximum ; EU I think specifies <=10

Chris S

I can usually smell the diesel pump just standing 25' from it at the local stations.

Cole

@ChrisS not sure why we went with Infoblox - and no one can tell me.

Dan

15:21

What's this WAIT light?

voretaq7

@ChrisS ah - that's because our refining process is different (and our diesel is usually 100% petroleum derived, not B80 or B100)

Chris S

@Dan Engine too cold and gloplugs haven't warmed yet

Cole

I think to avoid putting actual servers out at sites? Now I need to figure out how to standardize DHCP/DNS for sites with servers who want local DNS/DHCP

voretaq7

@Dan Diesel engines use glow plugs to start up. In winter around here they take a while to get to temperature (like 3-5 minutes on old diesel engines)

Dan

@ChrisS Never seen that on a modern diesel. Only takes 30 seconds on an ancient diesel

voretaq7

15:22

modern diesel engines will be hot much faster - usually you don't even see the light

Dan

@voretaq7 Yeah, I know how a diesel works - I hadn't factored you were talking about temp

Chris S

@Dan I think our winters are a bit colder than yours.

Journeyman Geek

You can run old diesel engines off SVO ;p

Dan

@ChrisS Just a bit, yes! Like I say, didn't realise that was the point.

voretaq7

@Dan yeah, when you want to start your car at 15 degrees (F - so around -10 for you freakish Metric people) and it's covered in snow it's probably not going to be happy

diesels are just more vocal about it.

Chris S

15:23

Our "Average" January morning is -8ºC
Going to the far end of the state, the average is -15ºC

Dan

Hmm, I think I've done -5

voretaq7

it's still usually less than a minute in modern diesels

Dan

But they are cold snaps, rather than average. But yeah, no issue in new TDCI

Chris S

@voretaq7 I don't think I've waited longer than 30 seconds even in a truck from the 80s.

ewwhite

@Chopper3 Burn-in? Your thoughts.

Chris S

15:26

But when I was driving that (work) I'd plug it in every night (when I remembered)

voretaq7

@ChrisS the worst I had was a couple of minutes

and it was literally in a snowbank

Dan

@voretaq7 Was this before starting?

voretaq7

@Dan yeah

Dan

I'd give it 10 seconds max and then try

voretaq7

it probably would have started sooner - we were waiting for the stupid light to go out (and eventually gave up on that)

Chris S

15:27

@Dan It tends to take more than 10 seconds when the engine block is -20ºC

Dan

@ChrisS I didn't say it'd go out, I'd just try and start it!

voretaq7

modern turbo diesel engines will start pretty well on anything but B100

Dan

Exactly

THe problem with modern diesels is the common rail injection and fuel pump

ewwhite

I don't think this is a private cloud...

0

Q: What is the best private cloud storage setup

I need to create a private cloud and I'm searching for the best setup. These are my 2 most important requirements 1. Disk and system redundant 2. Price / GB as low as possible The system is going to be used as backup setup which will receive data 24/7 over SFTP and rsync. High throughput is not ...

zfs glusterfs cloud-storage

Chris S

Michigan's record low is –46ºC, not sure you could get a diesel to start at that temperature.

Dan

15:29

Fantastically efficient and effective, but prone to catastrophic failure

Chris S

What temperature does gas freeze at? (Found it, about -72ºC)

Dan

@ChrisS I wouldn't fancy any of my vehicle's chances at that temp!

voretaq7

@Dan so...the exact same problem with modern petrol engines? :-)

Michael Hampton

Your junior admin has to start learning how to be a sysadmin sometime. Why not now? — Michael Hampton 6 secs ago

Dan

@voretaq7 I'm going to say no - petrol fuel injection is simpler due to the lower pressure

Chris S

15:32

@Dan Don't need to worry about it, diesel "freezes" at -45ºC.

@Dan Both petrol and diesel are slowing switching to direct injection at compression level pressure. Petrol is still lower obviously, but the technology is the same.

voretaq7

@Dan All the VW engines since the MkV have been DCI

complete with the solenoid rattle

Dan

In my experience, TDCI's are far more prone to expensive failures than petrol injection

And diesel injectors tend to be far fussier and more expensive, and break more often

voretaq7

@Dan I think that's more to do with crap in the diesel fuel

though some of the crap we put in our petrol over here can't be good for the system either (cough*ethanol*cough)

Dan

@voretaq7 Potentially, which does go back to the point about modern diesels being fussy I suppose

voretaq7

there are also "engine cleaner" products you can use on petrol engines that would wreck a diesel - there's a whole separate BG line for diesels

Dan

15:37

@ChrisS Petrol is a lot lower, though. Diesel injection is insanely high, and dangerous

@voretaq7 It's due to the self lubricating properties of diesel, and why it's so easy to fuck a diesel pump up

ewwhite

(lube)

voretaq7

@Dan apparently we have a problem with older diesel pumps in the US because the new fuels are "dry"

(by which I have to assume they mean "shitty lubricants", not "free of water")

Dan

Haha, yes

I'd quite to try a petrol on LPG

But again, modern petrols make the whole thing far more risky (In terms of reliability) and complex

voretaq7

@Dan Not a fan.

Dan

@voretaq7 Nor me, but it's cheap

The alternative would be get a pre-common rail diesel and give cooking oil a shot

(I'll probably do none of these things, because I need my car to work!)

voretaq7

15:46

@Dan you can catalyze biodiesel and run it on modern common-rail engines

Dan

@voretaq7 Yeah, I won't be trusting that

Plus, we have limits and legislation on fuel storage

Hennes

curses

 Dear Hennes


Thank you for taking the time to interview at Fab for the position of IT Specialist (m/f). After careful consideration, we are unable to extend an employment offer at this time.

As you might imagine, there is a lot of competition for the position, and in this case we've found that there are other applicants whose background and experience is stronger in one or more aspects of the key criteria we’ve evaluated.

Again, your interest in Fab is greatly appreciated, and we wish you the best in your future career endeavors.

Dan

So whatever I was doing, it would have to run from the pump

@Hennes Sorry dude :(

voretaq7

@Dan "It's just cooking oil" until it goes through the catalyst :-)

Hennes

I would have loved to have that job. Bioth as a job, and as a mental backup for tomorrows interview

Dan

15:49

@voretaq7 Heh

Most biodiesel places in the UK give a 2004-ish cut off time for use

voretaq7

@Dan we do B10-B20 blends here which are (supposedly) safe for any engine

Dan

Cars are silly

WesleyDavid

@Hennes "We found someone cheaper who will smile broader as he flails wildly on a keyboard, convincing us he's busy when he's really surfing porn and browsing through HR files. Thanks for applying!"

Dan

Right, laters

Hennes

Cheaper is hard

WesleyDavid

15:56

@Dan Smooches.

Hennes

I asked 2650 euro/month for 40h

Which is better than writing "I am cheap" because that would get starred.

2

WesleyDavid

€2650? That's like nine million USD isn't it?

Hennes

Something like that. Not really a way to compare it

Travis

@WesleyDavid Holy crap! That's how I got this job!

Hennes

But average salary for a 30 year old ING. is 3000.

(and I am 41)

Miles Erickson

15:58

-1

Q: Port 22 is not responding

I'm trying to make the jump to VPS from shared hosting for better performances and greater flexibility, but am stuck with the fact that I can't access the machine via ssh. First of all, the machine is a CentOS 6.3 cPanel x64 with WHM 11.38.0. Sshd is running (it appears in the current running pr...

ssh vps port whm

WesleyDavid

@Travis You asked for nine million dollars?

Miles Erickson

What is this crap? Guy signs up for a VPS and can't connect to it, and then contacts us instead of the hosting company's tech support?

Travis

@WesleyDavid No. I smile broadly, type fast while convincing them I'm busy but really surfing porn and browsing the HR files

WesleyDavid

I get the feeling that we dislike cPanel.

Hennes

It is the 'browsing the HR files' whioch makes you keep yopur job.

I got the feeling that dislike is the wrong word.

Journeyman Geek

15:59

@WesleyDavid no we don't

lights up the stake

Iain

@WesleyDavid cpanel has a higher than average change of being a crappy question

Travis

@MilesErickson "So Travis I bought thew new iPhone over the weekend....how do I use it?" I don't know...I have a BlackBerry

WesleyDavid

@Iain halp when i click server to install wordpresses i get error please to be fixing.

Miles Erickson

@Travis Has anyone ever asked you how to use an iPhone?

Iain

@WesleyDavid that would be on the better side

dawud

16:01

@MichaelHampton ACK

Michael Hampton

If you aren't reselling hosting, then cPanel/WHM are just going to get in your way, and their nonstandard way of doing things will make it difficult for you to get help from anyone but cPanel themselves (and sometimes not even from them). Getting rid of it really is the best thing you can do. — Michael Hampton 36 secs ago

Travis

@MilesErickson Only the 3 people that got the 4s when they came out

WesleyDavid

@MilesErickson raises hand

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid put your head in the drill press.

Miles Erickson

@WesleyDavid Weird. The only iPhone question I've ever been asked in a professional context is "corporate mail on personal device, want."

WesleyDavid

16:03

@voretaq7 Instructions unclear. Got lost on shop flloor and eventually made shoe polish box.

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid cat was then placed inside shoe polish box and shipped to Abu Dhabi

Hennes

"corporate mail on personal device. How can I nuke everything on the device if the person looses his device:"

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 With Odie?

Tom O'Connor

pastebin.com/LuCHQK7H

Travis

@MilesErickson Professional context? What's that. I get the "my home computer is slow...can you fix it..." Yep...for $50. "But the guy in town only charges $35." Ok...take it to him then

WesleyDavid

16:04

@MilesErickson I've had questions about apps, Exchange mail, POP mail, etc. etc.

voretaq7

Miles Erickson

@voretaq7 Whoa! I remember when Garfield had more than three characters.

Journeyman Geek

@Travis: and charge him 15 bucks for the consultation anyway ;p

Travis

lol

@JourneymanGeek They usually bring it to me. Then I take all the nude photos of their wife and upload them to an amateur website

You know, to make up the difference

Journeyman Geek

lol

Cole

16:05

lol wow

Miles Erickson

@Travis Um.

WesleyDavid

I'm less and less concerned about ServerFault being known as The Mean StackExchange. I mean, it's not like we're known as The Hostel of StackExchange, or The Serbian Film of StackExchange.

Travis

I am only kidding

I just keep them for future blackmailing opportunities

Journeyman Geek

(actually I charge friends, whatever they think its worth. Which often ends up more than what I would have charged ;p)

Miles Erickson

@JourneymanGeek Sort of like the autorickshaw drivers in Colombo.

Journeyman Geek

16:06

;p

Cole

I usually fix (which is very rarely now) computers for beer

But not shit beer.

Travis

I don't drink sooo...

Miles Erickson

@JourneymanGeek Autorickshaws are so much cheaper in Sri Lanka than in Thailand or India that they pretty much always let foreigners name their own price. If you offer half what the same ride would cost in India, you might still be paying them double their normal rate.

Lucas Kauffman

@Travis we can get you Pepsi.

Cole

@Travis you don't drink and you're a sys admin!?

Travis

16:07

@Cole Meth is faster

Just makes chewing steak a little harder

Lucas Kauffman

ew.

Cole

Purée it.

Miles Erickson

@Cole Nothing like steak smoothies for dinner.

Cole

Steak shake: Eat your steak through a straw!

Journeyman Geek

@WesleyDavid the serbian film just seems totally fucked in the head

Cole

16:09

So I just got a Baja avocado and bacon wrap from the cafeteria here. My mouth is on fire.

Travis

I got my first chat suspension today. It was rather interesting

Lucas Kauffman

@JourneymanGeek link meh

Cole

@Travis what did you do?

Journeyman Geek

A Serbian Film

A Serbian Film () is a 2010 Serbian horror film and the first feature film directed, co-written and produced by Srđan Spasojević. It tells the story of a down-on-his-luck porn star who agrees to participate in an "art film", only to discover that he has been drafted into a snuff film with child rape and necrophilic themes. The film stars Serbian actors Srđan Todorović and Sergej Trifunović. Upon its debut on the art film circuit, the film received substantial attention for its graphic depictions of rape, necrophilia, and child sexual abuse. The Serbian state investigated the film for c...

Miles Erickson

@Cole You know, in the middle parts of America, there's a restaurant chain called Steak 'n Shake.

Cole

16:09

@MilesErickson I've heard it's good

Travis

@Cole I linked to a tubgirl picture that said "Don't click this" and then reported it because I couldn't delete it

Cole

Doh!

Shot yourself in the foot

Travis

Someone starred it too

Cole

lulz.

Travis

which was even funnier but the star got removed shortly then I got suspended

Cole

16:11

So that little annoying douchenozzle finally left us alone, eh?

Travis

That would be the reason I posed it :)

Michael Hampton

@Cole Which one? There are so many to choose from....

Travis

He said he was bored at looking at all the porn he usually does...figured I'd give him something different

@MichaelHampton Ethan I think

Cole

@MichaelHampton some 17 year old.

Michael Hampton

Oh. Long since ignored that guy.

Travis

16:12

I think most in here do....any more

I don't have him on ignore (i hate that feature) so I just ignore his commebts

WesleyDavid

@JourneymanGeek A Serbian Film is the single worst most disgusting excessive unnecessary piece of "cinema" ever.

@Cole It is not.

Cole

Friend of mine who is a CNA, a patient asked her last night if she was RoboCop.

Journeyman Geek

@WesleyDavid: I did say totally fucked in the head, yes?

Cole

@WesleyDavid Good to know.

Journeyman Geek

@Cole: CNA?

Travis

16:13

certified nursing assistant

Cole

@JourneymanGeek Certified Nursing Assistant aka professional butt wiper

Journeyman Geek

ahh k

(our local news channel is also called that ;p)

Cole

She works on the psychiatric ward of a hospital.

WesleyDavid

@Cole Lived in Cincinnati, ate at Steak and Shakes, the food is mediocre at best.

Cole

think I'm going to run home quick

brb

Travis

16:15

faster to drive

Miles Erickson

@WesleyDavid See, though, if they equipped each location with a Vita-Mix, then they could serve steak in shake.

@Travis Can never be sure. I've lived in plenty of places where it wouldn't have been faster to drive.

WesleyDavid

@MilesErickson "Will it blend?"

Miles Erickson

@WesleyDavid Think of the clientele: old folks with painful dentures, meth addicts, vampires with souls...

WesleyDavid

@MilesErickson That pretty much sums up the population of Cincinnati.

Travis

@MilesErickson Tis is true

WesleyDavid

16:17

Okay, second breakfast eaten, with tea. Time to get back to worky things.

Jacob

@WesleyDavid That series is so awsome

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Lucas Kauffman

any mods around?

serverfault.com/questions/518423/taking-root-ownership this can be moved to security.SE if you guys want to

Adrian

16:39

@Cole We had an annoying little douchenozzle pop up this morning?

mornin' gents

Lucas Kauffman

ty mods :)

Adrian

@LucasKauffman vas ist?

Lucas Kauffman

@Adrian migration

Adrian

@LucasKauffman Sorry, still have no idea what you're on about.

Lucas Kauffman

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Q: Taking root ownership

Just gonna make this clear first, this is for class! I have an assignment that requires to 1) modify a web server written in Java to accept file uploads and to use this to deface the homepage (did that no problem). 2) Take root ownership of the machine. I'm hitting a bit of a wall with the sec...

java

that was migrated from here to sec.se

Jacob

16:45

Will it blend? I can watch that for hours

Adrian

@LucasKauffman Ah. I failed to see anything about that question or (lack of comment exchange) that rises to douchenozzle.

I've seen douchenozzle, that ain't it.

ewwhite

MemTest will let you know if there are any flaws in the internals of the memory. It does this by storing patterns of bytes as well as random sets of bytes in the memory in an attempt to trigger an error. The program can run a "pass" to let you know if the memory is good but I generally run multiple passes overnight just to make sure. The nice thing about MemTest is that it tells me if the memory is bad before I deploy the system. It has triggered an RMA many times and saved me a lot of headaches. Once the machine is deployed its a pain in the @ss to RMA the memory. — Atari911 48 mins ago

Jacob

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@Cole ^^^^

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