The Comms Room

kce

17:00

@BigHomie - Nope cloud cover.

Skyhawk

@voretaq7 Right, so now imagine an MDA of 1880' and a little note after the MAP that says "Fly visual to airport"... that's Juneau.

voretaq7

@Skyhawk @kce Juneau is a great example because they don't want you flying over those mountains :)

BigHomie

@voretaq7 Or into one I imagine

Skyhawk

@voretaq7 I strongly suspect that Austin Meyer could fix this problem.

@voretaq7 Actually, he already has, but only for emergencies.

kce

@voretaq7 - South approach. youtube.com/watch?v=zvbqjOysqKE

voretaq7

17:02

@Skyhawk Or just fly over to Gustavus -- not practical for everyone but also not quite as boxed in by a mountain :)

Tanner

@mossy holy shit hahaha

10/10. super awkward.

kce

@MikeyB - Yeah. Mostly I just need another pair of eyes on to confirm my assessment that it wasn't done er... best practices so to speak.

voretaq7

@Skyhawk At some point terrain and synthetic vision will obviate the need for visual contact with the runway... but that point is not today (and probably not tomorrow. Next week not looking so good either...)

kce

@voretaq7, @Skyhawk - The north approach is a little more open

HopelessN00b

@Iain Maybe. I'm just gonna VTC "minimal understanding"... not sure I should participate in dumping that trainwreck onto someone else.

Skyhawk

17:06

@voretaq7 You've seen this, right? xavion.com

Chris S

@mossy That's awesome. I'm pretty sure he's serious too.

BigHomie

@Skyhawk are iPad sensors aircraft grade

mossy

@ChrisS That's how I feel when I come in here and ask @ewwhite to hire me.

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Chris S

@mossy have you seen his clients?

Also, this is why CEOs don't do open comment time so much... so many idiots

Skyhawk

@BigHomie When faced with certain death, TSOs are a bit of a luxury.

voretaq7

17:14

@kce yeah but you only have the instrument approaches going one way at Juneau right?

BigHomie

@Skyhawk Point made

But at $100 a pop..

voretaq7

@Skyhawk yeah, it's pretty sweet.

kce

@voretaq7 - Correct. The south approach Runway 8.

voretaq7

@Skyhawk "When in doubt declare an emergency and throw your copy of the FARs out the window."

MikeyB

@BigHomie really tempting to answer that question with something that started up a multiplexed ssh session - plex 0 runs sudo shell listening on a pty, further plexes issued commands to that tty for the privileged shell to execute.

BigHomie

17:15

@Basil ;)

Skyhawk

@voretaq7 Now, this is interesting. When you throw the FARs out the window, should you take reasonable precautions to avoid injury or damage to persons or property on the ground?

ewwhite

@ChrisS My clients pay... sometimes

voretaq7

@Skyhawk throw that page out first :-)

Chris S

@ewwhite Yeah... suck your soul out the wrong end, and then pay, sometimes...

voretaq7

I think the only one you need to keep after declaring an emergency is 91.13

Basil

17:16

in Chat feedback, Oct 18 '10 at 9:14, by Feeds

All feedback welcome!

voretaq7

@Basil <plays recording of amplifier feedback>

kce

I don't really have a technical mentor so I can ask TheComms a "career" question? I am by no means an exceptional systems administrator and I think I benefit from the small talent pool where I live so if I wanted to move to the NW and get away from small/medium sized stuff what would you recommend?

Certificates? Freelance work? Contributing to an F/OSS project?

Skyhawk

@kce What do you want to do?

BigHomie

@Basil doc-brown-badge reply to a post that hasn't been posted yet

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Skyhawk

@kce So far you've identified only what you don't want to do.

Basil

17:18

@voretaq7 <records that, plays it to microphone connected to speakers pointed at microphone>

kce

@Skyhawk - Networking, Linux, or VMware virtualization

Holocryptic

I want to be a porn star. They told me to come back when I grow up.

3

MikeyB

@BigHomie I should have that badge! (did it without editing)

Chris S

@kce That's a generalist, they only work in small to medium size companies.

Skyhawk

@kce For networking and VMware, certifications are important. Get your CCNP or VCP and you'll probably have a job.

MikeyB

17:19

@Holocryptic "Oh, ok! Give me 2 minutes."

ewwhite

@kce Certs... not so much. I don't have any valid certs today

Skyhawk

@kce For Linux, contributing to open-source projects is a great strategy. Plus, it should make your heart feel warm and cozy.

MikeyB

@BigHomie That's too many.

kce

@ChrisS - Not necessarily all of those fields.

BigHomie

@MikeyB yeah didn't realize what thread I replied to there -_-

Holocryptic

17:20

@MikeyB 1 min 59 secs too long

kce

@Skyhawk, @voretaq7 - Yeah. I can't get work here that gets me the experience I need so I guess I have to do certs...

Skyhawk

@ewwhite Certifications get you in the door. You don't need that. You are the god of windmills.

voretaq7

@kce Drinking :)

kce

@voretaq7 - Well. I got that part figured out.

voretaq7

Pick up a RHCE or something. Open source contributions are helpful if they're quality

MikeyB

17:21

May 3 '12 at 17:25, by MikeyB

:4457491 I'm forward-thinking

kce

I just need to do a little planning ahead if I want to be at all able to move into a bigger job market.

ewwhite

But a cert without context is hard

voretaq7

(contribute to documentation. That shows you understand the system well eough to write about it)

kce

@voretaq7 - That's a good point.

ewwhite

I mean, I could go get certified on Chef... but it would be a lot more useful if I were in an environment that was using it.

BigHomie

17:23

@MikeyB nice!

you know what this means

:15905475 ORLY?

kce

OK. I realize I'm opening myself up to get torn apart here but based on my SF posts, what kind of positions would you think I would be hire-able for in the Lower 48? Would I be going back to help desk?

BigHomie

:15905493 I agree.

Skyhawk

@voretaq7 "Contribute to documentation" is seriously good advice. I've seen it work.

BigHomie

:1590550 perhaps

kce

@Skyhawk, @voretaq7 - Wasn't that @Wesely's approach?

BigHomie

17:24

:15905520 Where is @wesley anyways

voretaq7

@Skyhawk those are the people I'd hire first. You have to really understand something in order to write (good) documentation about it.

@BigHomie It's "Hug your Cat" day, so probably getting hugs?

BigHomie

haha! I did it @MikeyB, almost, it wound up being my post

voretaq7

I published this comic yesterday not realizing that today was #HugYourCatDay http://theoatmeal.com/comics/kitty_hug

Tweeted by Oatmeal on June 4, 2014 at 4:56 PM

MikeyB

Documentation and talking to people are the really hard parts of the job.
If you can show you can do that well and can be trained up on the technical side, to a savvy employer that is way more important than any certification.

Skyhawk

@kce Based on your posts, I'd say you're not as below-average as you think. Your mind works better than the vast majority of the minds that I've seen in IT.

BigHomie

17:25

:15905542 say it again

:15905555 lucky # 7

voretaq7

@Skyhawk certainly better than the vast majority of them I've seen asking questions on SF lately :(

MikeyB

@BigHomie First first post, dude.

BigHomie

:15905570 now if I could just jump in front of me

mossy

@BigHomie I don't know what you're doing with chat right now but it doesn't seem to be working.

(or maybe it's just bugged on my screen?)

MikeyB

@BigHomie See what I did there? :D

BigHomie

17:26

@MikeyB lol I don't, please explain

MikeyB

@mossy He's forward-referencing messages.

BigHomie

@mossy check transcript

MikeyB

@BigHomie I made a loop.

BigHomie

@MikeyB I did too, but I had to edit. Trying to reach forward

:15905606 reach

MikeyB

@BigHomie around

BigHomie

17:28

:15905632 I CWYDT

kce

@Skyhawk, @MikeyB - That's comforting to hear. I was looking for work in Portland, OR in 2010 and was pretty disheartened by the job market so I came back to AK. It's weird because the stuff I hear in Chat about in being an "employee-market" does not match up with my experience.

mossy

@BigHomie I see..

kce

@BigHomie ?

BigHomie

@MikeyB kce's message has the ID, but it didn't autoresolve. I want to edit, but it'll ruin my stats. I did it, done now.

@kce ?

@kce did you get a ping or something?

Bob

@BigHomie stats?

kce

17:30

@BigHomie - Negative.

BigHomie

@Bob yep.

kce

Wait, do mean your last message with '?'. Then that is an affirmative. Your other messages. No.

Chris S

Anyone play Ingress (Android only I think)?

BigHomie

@kce to bring the topic back home, don't do what you like to do for a living, at least working for someone else. Often times it'll suck the joy right out of it and you'll be unhappy

But that isn't always the case

Bob

@BigHomie o.O

kce

17:34

@BigHomie - Yeah. That thought has occurred to me.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ChrisS is that still a thing? I tried it for 3 days last year and got utterly bored

BigHomie

@kce So are you Mac, Linux, Windows, or a combo of the three? What exactly are you interested in?

@kce a number of us here have had the desire to operate heavy machinery as a sysadmin alternative, just so you know.

kce

@BigHomie - Personally? I enjoy Linux. All my work experience is in Windows

HopelessN00b

@BigHomie Very true. Killing people for a living is a death-penalty offense, after all.

kce

@Skyhawk, @BigHomie - It's mostly my expectations being a Millennial and all. (waitbutwhy.com/2013/09/…)

Chris S

17:39

@DennisKaarsemaker First I've heard of it... '13 Game of the Year... I've tried it for 10 minutes now, immediately noticed there's no small groups to join, like a clan or similar. Only the two global factions. Reminds me of the ancient days of video games in that regard, incredibly little social factor.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ChrisS there's small groups as part of the global clans

we have a fairly active group at work who go on and capture things together

they try to keep the immediate surroundings blue

Chris S

@DennisKaarsemaker Oh - I couldn't find anything right off the bat... Maybe I'll look a bit closer.

I joined team Green =]

Dennis Kaarsemaker

It's not something official, you just have to find people around you :)

mossy

Anyone use this? automatic.com

Chris S

Oh - yeah - not what I meant... I expect a modern multiplayer game to have in-game Clans (or similar)

voretaq7

17:43

`git add .` adds your personal baggage and ex drama to your repos so, like, be careful out there ok #TheMoreYouKnow http://t.co/T8yLD4JM0r

Tweeted by jennschiffer on June 4, 2014 at 1:39 AM

bwahahahahahaha

Chris S

@mossy Too expensive, and anything that thinks it's changing my bad driving habits is crazy.

mossy

@ChrisS Yeah.. it is pretty expensive.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@voretaq7 beware, or git detaches your head...

mossy

I feel like buying something though.

Chris S

@mossy Seems like a good idea to me - but more of a solution looking for a problem

freiheit

17:51

@mossy Buy a bicycle!

mossy

@freiheit i did!

kce

@Skyhawk, @voretaq7, @BigHomie - OK. Well thanks for the advice guys.

freiheit

@mossy Then go ride it until you feel the urge to buy another bicycle.

Ward

What the heck am I missing about GiB vs GB? I get 1TB = 10^12 bytes = 931.322574615 GiBytes So why does my drive show up as 931.51 GiB ???

Michael Hampton

@Ward A 1TB drive is ever so slightly larger than 1TB

BigHomie

17:54

GiB == 1024Kb^3

1GB = 1,000^3

Michael Hampton

Disk /dev/sdb: 931.5 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors

Ward

@MichaelHampton ARgh, where do those 204,886,016 extra bytes come from?

BigHomie

Gibibyte

The gibibyte is a multiple of the unit byte for digital information. It is a member of the set of units with binary prefixes defined by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC). Its unit symbol is GiB. The prefix gibi (symbol Gi) represents multiplication by 10243, therefore: : 1 gibibyte = 230 bytes = = 1024 mebibytes The gibibyte is closely related to the gigabyte (GB), which is defined as 109 bytes = , but has been used as a synonym for gibibyte in some contexts. ≈ . 1024 gibibytes are equal to one tebibyte. Binary prefixes are increasingly used in technical literature...

@Ward Standard unit of measure for geeks everywhere

Michael Hampton

@Ward Magnets.

BigHomie

@MichaelHampton But, it is exactly 1TiB

HopelessN00b

17:57

@Ward It's based on how many bits they can squeeze onto the platters, which doesn't work out to an exactly round number, either in base 10 or base 2.

Ward

Yes, I know about GiB vs GB,

Michael Hampton

@BigHomie Actually it's not exactly 1 TB.

Ward

@BigHomie No, that's just it it's NOT 1TiB, 1 Tib would be 1,099,511,627,776 bytes

Bob

@HopelessN00b You'd think they'd just reserve all of the extra for reallocated sectors.

Let people see a nice round (decimal or binary) number.

HopelessN00b

@Ward Oh, your OS probably displays GiB as GB.

Michael Hampton

17:58

They have plenty of space reserved for reallocated sectors already.

HopelessN00b

@Bob Well, people do see a nice, round number. On the package. :)

Ward

@HopelessN00b Yeah, I can deal with the OS showing GiB but labelling it GB, that's simple, it's the extra bits which I'll now call "Michael Hampton Bits" aka MHB that were bugging me.

BigHomie

@Ward It's closer to 1000Gib than 1000GB, that's probably the confusion

HopelessN00b

@Ward Yeah, just down to how many bits they can squeeze onto the platter. For obvious reasons, they just don't put the extra fractional number on the packaging, but (spinning drives) always contain more bits than the advertised number of GB/TB, because... geometry.

BigHomie

Disk /dev/sdb: 931.5 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors

931.5 * (1024^3) == 1.0001905e+12

That's close enough to 10^12 for me, give or take a couple MHBs for the NSA to exploit.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

18:03

I have a tribblebyte

BigHomie

But, they're both pretty much the same depending on how you round @Ward

HopelessN00b

@BigHomie Yeah, but the GiB/GB confusion has nothing to do with the extra bits. The extra bits are from geometry, the GiB/GB thing is because people are fucking retarded and don't respect that specific words have specific meanings, dammit!

BigHomie

@HopelessN00b What are bits?

Bob

@mossy I rank it an I-think-broke-something-cringing...

mossy

@Bob yep.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

18:06

@Ward that's wrong. The Michael Hampton bits are the 96 most significant bits in an ipv6 address :)

HopelessN00b

@BigHomie Ones and zeros, mostly. But sometimes you can see a 2.

BigHomie

lol mostly

Ward

So I've got one drive with 204885504 MHBytes and one with 202043392 MHBytes extra... nice.

BigHomie

@Ward Be happy, the filesystem's gotta go somewhere

tombull89

@mossy What's so bad about a Q&A session wiOH MY GOD WTF DID HE DO.

freiheit

18:13

@Ward If you want truly identical sizes you need to buy the same model with sequential serial numbers. If you're going to use them in a RAID array, stick with the advertised 1TB size and totally ignore the 200-ish M-MH-B.

BigHomie

@freiheit are we talkin' ripping open the boxes in the store to make sure the serial numbers match?

Bob

@tombull89 I had to repeat it a couple of times to make sure I heard right. Then closed it when he mentioned CEO. Wat.

freiheit

@BigHomie Nah, we're talking about not giving a fuck about a few-megabytes of size difference on a 1TB drive.

@BigHomie Though, I think it's pretty common on servers we buy from HP or dell for the drives to have nearly sequential serial numbers.

BigHomie

@freiheit I've seen that on the desktops, there pretty much from the same lot. Had a dozen or two Optiplex's who's hard drives went bad w/in weeks and months of each other

Dennis Kaarsemaker

allout.org/en/actions/australia-budget-taf

voretaq7

18:22

. . . DaFUQ?

There are LITERAL grammar nazis -- nazis who care about grammar -- on Twitter. http://www.geekosystem.com/literal-grammar-nazis/ http://t.co/ybZwBWuLYY

Tweeted by Geekosystem on June 4, 2014 at 5:10 PM

Dennis Kaarsemaker

Grammatik Macht Frei!

BigHomie

Ry Jones

18:44

Hopefully @cole is sober when he lands

actually, by definition, he's no longer high when he lands, so it'll work out

MikeyB

@freiheit … which is why good RAID controllers will round down to the nearest $UNIT (MiB?)

BigHomie

> The Russian jet flew within 100 feet of the nose of a U.S. Air Force reconnaissance plane over the Sea of Okhotsk between Russia and Japan, a Defense Department official said.

I'm guessing ~33 yards is pretty close for planes, @voretaq7 ??

MikeyB

@BigHomie holy freakin' shite that's close. Pretty sure that any separation (depending on where you are) < 1000ft separation is a reportable incident.

BigHomie

@MikeyB Not to mention it was a Russian fighter jet.

ewwhite

I don't want to use RAID yet, just only one disk. — Łukasz Zaroda 30 mins ago

voretaq7

18:58

@BigHomie Certainly closer than I'd like to be.

Chris S

@BigHomie Not sure if it's unintentional humor or completely self-aware...

@MikeyB Most I've seen "reserve" 0.1 to 0.5% of the physical size at the end for different definitions of 1TB.

MikeyB

You have: 4000787030016B
You want: GB
* 4000.787
You want: GiB
* 3726.0233
You want: TB
* 4.000787
You want: TiB
* 3.6386946

HopelessN00b

@BigHomie Well, when you're traveling at close to 1000 fps (or faster, if you're both supersonic), yeah, 100 feet's pretty close.

Chris S

@BigHomie Depends on if it's 100ft vertical or 100ft horizontal.

MikeyB

Someone is going to get really pissed when they find out their 10TB drive is only 9TiB.

@HopelessN00b 1000fps? Full 4K HD? Damn son.

Chris S

19:08

Planes typically stay at least 1000' away from each other vertically. But much, much farther apart horizontally.

BigHomie

@ChrisS I didn't know our military went anywhere unarmed.

voretaq7

@BigHomie Generally they're not armed on post.

BigHomie

@voretaq7 Something just seems off about that. If you're not at home (i.e., flying around America), take the strap with you

voretaq7

@freiheit The ones we get from Iron usually have sequential drives (perhaps not in sequential slots, but always from one production run). Replacement disks can be random though.

MikeyB

@voretaq7 my how times change

voretaq7

19:12

@BigHomie That could violate the laws of about a dozen countries I can think of offhand :-)

@MikeyB ?

Ry Jones

@BigHomie The Praetorian Guard doesn't like competition.

BigHomie

@voretaq7 Oh, so you're saying b/c their flying around somebody else's house, they can't have guns mounted on the plane? I didn't know that

MikeyB

@voretaq7 I remember when "common wisdom" was to ensure each drive in a RAID mirror pair was from a different manufacturer, much less the same production run.

BigHomie

@MikeyB yep

voretaq7

@BigHomie Our recon aircraft are often unarmed.

it's not like they're designed for abrupt maneuvering and dogfights

BigHomie

19:17

@voretaq7 good point, still feels weird

Matt Bear

whats up all

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@MattBear the internet

Danila Ladner

who is the voip guru

BigHomie

@DanilaLadner ask your question

Matt Bear

@DennisKaarsemaker yeah.. though ours was down last night

Dennis Kaarsemaker

19:26

@MattBear you don't have your own internet...

voretaq7

@DanilaLadner Idunno, but I am the Apache Ninja.

Matt Bear

@DennisKaarsemaker yes I do, so stay off it

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@MattBear then you stay off ours. GET OUT! :)

Matt Bear

I personally invented and own 3% of all packets

so drop them!

we have a patent

you owe me 12 geezillion dollars

1 cent for every 27'th packet transmitted

Dennis Kaarsemaker

who wants to get his hair curled?

voretaq7

19:29

@MattBear . . . <drops all your packets>

Danila Ladner

I have 2 ISP circuits to outside Cogent and comcast business, use asa 5520 in primary, failover mode with SLA tracking. We us ShoretelSky cisco phones. Phones do get register and see tftp shoretel address where they get config just fine, but on the primary MetroEthernet link when i call out from the phone it dials in but there is no voice on either end, now when i connect phone directly to cogent fiber/ethernet box and assing it my external ip i can call out and hear the voice.

wtf?

voretaq7

Mattbear has left the internet (ping timeout)

Danila Ladner

the comcast def gateway works just fine.

BigHomie

@DennisKaarsemaker #random

hyperstealth.com/Quantum-Stealth/index.html

> Quantum Stealth is a material that renders the target completely invisible by bending light waves around the target. The material removes not only your visual, infrared (night vision) and thermal signatures but also the target’s shadow.

Basil

So one of the cool things about working at a monolith: we decided we'd had it with our DR datacenter provider, and wanted to move to our own datacenter that we'd control. One year later, a new building has been erected with enough raised floor to accommodate everything we replicate.

Most companies would have to rent something. We own land, so we just told our construction crews "there- build it there. How much will that be?"

Matt Bear

19:40

wheres @Wesley ?

mossy

Twerkin'

he got a job.

Matt Bear

@mossy ahh, good for him

though I wanted to be all "Check out my bench brah!"

ewwhite

0

Q: ASA 5540 v8.4(3) vpn to ASA 5505 v8.2(5), tunnel up but I cant ping from 5505 to IP on other side

I am having problems pinging from a 5505(remote) to IP 10.160.70.10 in the network behind the 5540(HQ side). 5505 inside IP: 10.56.0.1 Out: 71.43.109.226 5540 Inside: 10.1.0.8 out: 64.129.214.27 I Can ping from 5540 to 5505 inside 10.56.0.1. I also ran ASDM packet tracer in both directions, it...

Tanner

If you were to do a phone screening for this position: portland.craigslist.org/mlt/sad/4496514699.html what would you ask?

> virtualization on Hyper-V or VMware; implementation, administration and troubleshooting of Active Directory and Microsoft Exchange; Office 365 and/or Google Apps migration and administration; desktop systems integration and management.

They understand basic TCP/IP networking, firewalls, switching, and site-to-site VPN configurations.

probably the most relevant bit

BigHomie

19:55

That moment when the Red Bull fairy drops off 3 dozen at your office.

Bob

so. a night without sleep. and probably another one tomorrow.

BigHomie

@mossy you mean this is how you feel when you ask @ewwhite for a job?

Bob

no time like the present to start a caffeine addiction

mossy

@BigHomie hahahah

BigHomie

;)

I don't blame you dude, I feel that way too sometimes

I need to see that movie, <runs to check Amazon Prime>

BigHomie

20:17

Yeah, when you're kid is old enough to ask to be breastfed, it's time to stop.

Iain

0

Q: When a new user is created on Centos 6, it takes a while (30 mins) before he can access his group folder

I created a new user and made it part of a certain group which has full access (777) to a folder. Checked the user in Samba, password the same as his Windows (XP) password, rebooted his desktop but he didn't have access to the folder. Checked the Samba group and config file and the user was defin...

user-accounts access

Ay ?

voretaq7

@Iain wha?

MikeyB

20:40

@DanilaLadner Solution: Deploy IPv6. It fixes everything.

Danila Ladner

Lol, yeah right.

MikeyB

"I did restart the Samba server after my original changes."
WHOAH! ADDED A USER TO A GROUP! BETTER RESTART!

Danila Ladner

I've noticed that when sla clicks and switches to the route from backup the phones are working, but when i plug in back the primary link, it puts the main route in but "C 50.245.x.x 255.255.255.248 is directly connected, COMCAST_FAILOVER" record is still there, so once i unplug backup the phones start having voice, so it is very weird.

voretaq7

@MikeyB Well.... WINDOWS

BigHomie

@MikeyB I should be ready to send you a mockup of the site soon, let me know how you prefer I send it, email, onedrive, etc. I'm making it 3 pages, home, services, contact

voretaq7

20:47

Wesley

21:16

@MattBear Cuddled up under your covers like always.

@BigHomie I'm telling people how to take mongo dumps and getting paid for it!

Matt Bear

@Wesley benching sets of 255, hoping to hit 315 by christmas

Wesley

@MattBear Dude. Awesome.

Iain

21:36

@Wesley Ride!

Wesley

@Iain I'm working more jobs than @ewwhite and I've got a sick mom and cat!!

Also I need to build my Surly.

Iain

Ride !

Wesley

@Iain Also that's what she said.

Iain

You start a Strava group and they don't ride :(

Wesley

I'm basically a horrible person.

2

But don't worry, @Jacob will carry the group

Iain

21:38

how ?

Wesley

@Iain He's a ridin' beast. Wait, isn't he?

Let me check...

freiheit

@Wesley Yes, yes you are. Being a horrible bike rider would be an improvement.

Iain

@Wesley I had a good week last week and rode 3x more miles than him :(

Wesley

@Iain ...

Never fear, ~~@Jacob~~ @Iain will carry the team!

Iain

@Wesley I doubt I'll manage it this week, the weekend looks like a washout

MikeyB

21:42

@BigHomie Related to earlier, I do this all the time to my wife:
(05:41:36 PM) Supermathie: Yep, leaving now.
(05:41:37 PM) Wife: On your way?

ewwhite

21:55

@Wesley I have 45 clients, fool!

voretaq7

Hey, in @Wesley's defense, we should expect him to be a horrible person. He's a cat(head).

2

freiheit

@voretaq7 My actual cat is a sociopathic mass-murderer

Sometimes he strews the bodies of his victims around the yard

voretaq7

@freiheit cat

freiheit

Last night he brought one in and meowed until we came to look, so he could gloat over it

Sometimes he tortures them, brings them into the house, and releases them for more torture... that's the worst...

Mark Henderson

@freiheit theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill

freiheit

22:11

@MarkHenderson So true

But he's an adorable little serial killer that lets me pick him up and rub his fuzzy belly

(for a few minutes before he stiffens up and turns into a ball of claws and pain)

Mark Henderson

22:28

So I need a new dishwasher. Any suggestions?

I've got a soft spot for the Bosch line of dishwashers because they are so damn quiet and I've had two of them in the past

Bob

@MarkHenderson We have a Bosch one. It's had several issues with the water intake :\

Never used any other brands though.

You going for the small drawer or the full sized one?

Mark Henderson

@Bob Full sized

Tanner

Nov 26 '12 at 20:52, by Michael Hampton

DHCP is easy. Lolcat meows into the wild, "I can haz IP?" DHCP server sez "I haz IP 198.51.100.173, U wants?" Lolcat sez "I can haz 198.51.100.173?" DHCP server sez "U can haz IP 198.51.100.173 only for 86400 seconds!!! OBTW here iz some DNS servers for U and other fun stuffz!"

Mark Henderson

This is an unexpected purchase so I'm considering ebay for them too

Tanner

@MichaelHampton I used that in a phone screening today ^

Bob

22:31

@MarkHenderson Old one fail?

Mark Henderson

@Bob It's an Asko ~ 10 years old, and it's been making horrible noises whilst pumping water since we moved into this house. Now it's making horrible noises for the entire washing cycle

Which means 35 minutes of listening to dubstep

Michael Hampton

@Tanner How did that work out?

Tanner

@MichaelHampton well I got an interview haha

Mark Henderson

@Tanner Did they ask this?

Nov 26 '12 at 20:53, by Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Ah but the most important question you'll ever be asked in your life: When does the DHCP client ask for a renewal?

Michael Hampton

I'd almost forgotten I wrote that.

Tanner

22:34

@MarkHenderson Nope

Mark Henderson

I've been asked that DHCP question twice

Which is 100% of the technical interviews I've done in the last 5 years

Tanner

@MarkHenderson Won't that depend on client implementation?

Mark Henderson

@Tanner Standard is 50% of lease time

Wesley

22:51

Hey @Tanner, know your DNSs and your DHCPs.

90% of all answers about DNS are wrong, and so are the other 10%.

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DHCP fascinates people for some reason.

One of my highest voted answers was about DORA which I learned while studying for an XP certification when I could barely find my ass with both hands.

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A: How does a computer obtain an IP address via DHCP?

It doesn't know what device to query. Thus it broadcasts its request to the entire subnet. The DHCP server is listening for a certain type of communication and when it hears that specific broadcast it begins the DHCP conversation with the device that broadcasted its request. Take a look at the DO...

But apparently enough people were unaware about that to think it was good information.

Developers.

Bob

@MarkHenderson Do you at least like dubstep? :P

Wesley

Washtubstep!

Mark Henderson

@Bob I.. I do, but not when it comes from my washing machine

And not when I'm trying to watch TV

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Maybe dubstep would make good bedroom music.

Mark Henderson

I just remember someone saying that dubstep was like listening to two industrial washing machines having sex, and it seemed appropriate

Wesley

22:57

Two industrial washing machines in a threesome with megatron.

Tanner

@Wesley Sounds like I've got some last minute studying to do... How deep in to DNS do I need to be?

Wesley

@Tanner Balls deep.

*.balls.com

Tanner

@Wesley heh, DORA the DHCP explorer...

home time!

freiheit

Today it turned out that the DNS problem of our tertiary DNS resolver not working (but it seemed to work fine for me on my servers) is that somebody put the wrong DNS server IP into DHCP.

Mark Henderson

23:33

@freiheit "Someone" - was it you?

It's OK you're amongst friends here. You can be honest

("friends")*

freiheit

@MarkHenderson No, I don't even have access to the InfoBlox appliances that do DHCP for non-server subnets.

cole

23:55

I LOVE IT HERE

Mark Henderson

@cole WHERE IS HERE?

cole

Seattle

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