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12:02 AM
Disappointed that Google won't auto convert RU...
@ewwhite eh, I'll take it into the colo to do it.
 
12:16 AM
@RyanRies ... inches? what are those?
 
They're like centimeters, only larger and make far less sense
 
:(
because america
 
@Andrew 12 inches in a foot. 1.5 feet to a mdmarra penis.
 
Do people still use tar directly to write to tape?!
 
ya
 
12:19 AM
@MichaelHampton Somehow, yes.
 
@MichaelHampton Solaris neckbeards at $university job used to
Oracle backups dumped via cron, then tar'd to tape
 
why do people think tape is good at work when they got rid of it at home???!
 
$
 
you play tapes at home? record your TV to tapes?
 
How are you doing long-term archival?
 
12:22 AM
@MDMarra pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft who archives, the "IT boys" will never run out of space right?
we totally need that 15-year old copy of someone's PC! and the DOS games on it.
also "the cloud!"
 
We needed that 15 year old ERP backup to see how many millions the food service director stole :X
 
@MDMarra or the "screensaver" that cost six figures...
 
@Andrew ill sell you a screen saver for 6 figures
:D
 
Does anyone know why I appear to not be permitted to create a iscsi lun that is larger then 2TB on a Sun Storage 7210 appliance?
 
while were at it, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I'm selling cheap
 
12:26 AM
@Zoredache or why you have a Sun 7210 appliance...
@Zoredache who knows? I thought people abandoned those things.
 
@ewwhite I have one because the former boss liked it, and the current boss doesn't want to spend the $$$ to replace it. It is still supported by the vendor, but the current boss has all the contract numbers and such to make a call.
 
@Zoredache so it's... 4 years old?
 
Hrm, when did Sun get purchased? The shipping company dropped it off ~2 weeks before the announcement.
 
terrible
 
@MattBear Isn't arizona landlocked?
 
12:32 AM
@Andrew not for people who spend 6 figures on a screen saver
 
well, maybe it was 4 or 5 figures... but still.
@ewwhite so I got to the stage of running the conversion and it failed with "vmodl.fault.SystemError" - thoughts? recheck the vcenter settings? firewalls?
 
no idea on that
 
hmm, it's esxi 5.0 with vconverter 5.0.1
I could just blame Symantec...
 
definitely stop all possible services on the VM getting converted
including AV
 
stopping symantec is close to impossible...
 
12:48 AM
hmm... it might help my webserver if I enable port 80
 
"Disable simple file sharing on the source Windows machine." hmm
 
aight, so now I have a little problem that's bugging me...
 
sup
 
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.

Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at omgitsaserver.cloudapp.net Port 443
how do I hide the server information...
I have set in httpd.conf:
ServerTokens ProductOnly
ServerSignature Off
ahhh damn it, just found the problem,
on Debian, those are defined in /apache2/conf.d/security
and since conf.d/ loads after httpd.conf, it over writes
 
lol@linux
 
12:59 AM
me = happy now, and I now know more about Ubuntu/Apache
 
I presume vSphere essentials is OK..
 
1:20 AM
Ok so I got my blue cross insurance cancellation letter from my previous job - it says my insurance got canceled a day before I even put my notice in. wat.
Yet they took out the money out of my last check for insurance on the week of the 16th
what the fuck
 
clean
 
clean?
 
stainless dude
 
I'm confused.
 
pristine
 
1:32 AM
God, I can't stand reading community.Spiceworks.com
There's this dude there... Scott Allan Miller. And he's just off...
like a jacked-up ewwhite+@chopper3+@michaelhampton with none of the charm of an @mdmarra
 
@ewwhite so, thoughts on vmware converter?
 
@ewwhite Yeah he's rather unpleasant
@Andrew Do it
 
I am charming
 
@Andrew it works fine for what it does.
@JoelESalas you've read his stuff?
 
I'm so lost.
 
1:34 AM
So here's a new one, for me at least. Mind you, this is support for a non-free developer/enterprise level licensed product:
 
@ewwhite err, I can't get it working
 
@JoelESalas in this thread, he's telling people not to use ZFS and to rely on SuSE.
 
@ewwhite I sure have
 
@pauska you've had this error before? the "Unable to submit job: vmodl.fault.SystemError" one?
 
1:35 AM
@ewwhite I might judge him more harshly just because of his dumb profile picture
 
@JoelESalas yeah bad pic
@JoelESalas And here's, he's saying "BtrFS on OpenSuse is native, constantly under development (ZFS is dead-ended outside of Solaris) and has the checksumming that you desire."
Can I join Spiceworks just to smack someone down?!?
 
@ewwhite it's a windows 7 PC. no dynamic disks. I've done as much firewall / file sharing stuff as I can...
and all the tool tells me is "unknown error, I dunno lol!"
 
@Andrew sorry. I'm nowhere near any of the vConverter stuff. Try it on another system
 
So is there anything weird about slipping this support rep a ten-spot if they can fix my issue? Will that get my account a nice gold star for faster service in the future? A nice table on a Friday night without reservations?
 
@ewwhite so I did find that SSL setting after all. ProgramData??????
 
@ewwhite Loool ZFS is dead? Also btrfs is the best way I can think of to lose all of your data very fast
 
We also discovered a bug: [GlusterFS] does not handle symbolic links which are used extensively by the center.
@JoelESalas This is impressive.
 
@ewwhite That paper should be required reading
 
How the shit do I update Windows 8 Pro to 8.1?
 
@JoelESalas I've never seen such a thorough analysis.
 
1:53 AM
@JoelESalas resierfs is cool too
 
Damn I need an ISO
 
> For a very good time, create a few dozen files containing images of ReiserFS filesystems on a ReiserFS (scratch) filesystem, and force an fsck.reiser. All of ReiserFS is a single B-tree, that can be anywhere on disk. So what fsck.reiser does is to search the entire disks for blocks that look vaguely like parts of the filesystem B-tree, and stitches them all together. Whee!!!!
 
Gene Amdahl describes three laws of a balanced system resulting in an Amdahl number, an Amdahl Memory Ratio, and an Amdahl IOPS Ratio.[16] The Amdahl Number is calculated as the Sequential IO performance in Gb/s divided by the CPU in GHz.
Because academia.
 
What the hell is a brontobyte?
3
 
jhahahaha
 
2:02 AM
@Andrew And ReiserFS is probably safe to use as long as you're not married to Reiser.
 
@Magellan and you want your data to be safe...
:P
@ewwhite the vmware converter troubleshooting list has 31 points... ergh.
 
GUESS WHICH AARTHI HAS VORETAQ'S PHONE
 
ewww
 
@voretaq7 I cannot fathom how such a mishap should occur.
 
@roryalsop @scottpack @wesleydavid heeeey
where is Shane madden
 
2:08 AM
@voretaq7 Was this the plan all along? Lure him in for pie and steal the phone??
 
PIE!
 
@voretaq7 So, how is the pie?
 
@ewwhite e.g. "If you have static IP addresses assigned, assign the interfaces DHCP addresses prior to conversion. " what!?
 
@cole Windows store
Open up the store on a fully patched Win 8, it should be there
@Andrew bogus
 
@MDMarra probably not because this is VLK, right?
 
2:15 AM
@MDMarra so, I'm getting super vague errors...
 
@cole Not sure. I think it should still show up there. Not positive though
 
@MDMarra It doesn't :(
I'll see if someone can get me an ISO tomorrow. No idea why I don't have access to our Microsoft VL portal thing.
 
@MDMarra can you get me some server 2012 and win 8?
for free?
 
no?
 
warez!!
 
2:19 AM
@ewwhite Got a domain name? websitespark.com
 
Plus, that shit's old news. You want 2012 R2 and 8.1!
 
@MDMarra yeah, that! GIMME!
 
Oh hell, they canceled it.
 
@ewwhite you don't have SA on your current licenses?
 
@MDMarra no
 
2:21 AM
rookie mistake
 
@MDMarra not my mistake... client request
 
Clients are dumb
It's not 2003 any more, it makes sense to keep SA if you want modern versions of things now
 
basically, where I am, I have no access to Windows 2012.
 
No more 6 year gaps between OS releases
Microsoft has 180 day evaluations of Windows Server and lots of other products now
If you're just looking to see how it works
learn the interface, etc
Script in PowerShell
 
but then I'd have to pay. I don't like paying for things... except for HP gear, luxury vacations and dog toys.
 
2:24 AM
true
You could get a MSDN subscription.
You also have to pay for that, but it comes with OSes
 
MS is really cutting down all the various ways to get free stuff.
 
@MichaelHampton not cool!
Good thing Red Hat is free!
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Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. I'll miss the free Windows Azure credits though...
 
You still get them with an MSDN sub, or if you're a partner with a cloud competency :)
But yeah, they're putting more and more things in the evaluation center with 180 day trials and turning off the "free" faucet, unfortunately.
 
@MDMarra Yeah, but I didn't have to pay anything for websitespark.
 
2:28 AM
Here's a spot:
 
Meh. CentOS takes care of 90% of my requirements. Debian the other 10%.
 
Can someone own a cryptographic scheme
Like no one else can legally use it
 
@user10381 uh, if you write it, you own it? Duh?
 
Yes but lets say someone starts selling a product using a scheme you made
 
@user10381 Hire a Lawyer.
 
2:33 AM
Is that legal?
 
And Go Away.
 
This isn't a real scenario
 
@user10381 That's what Lawyers are for. Duh.
 
Is it illegal is what I am asking
 
@user10381 See my previous answer.
 
2:34 AM
go away or hire a lawyer
 
@user10381 Not 'or'. And
 
oh damn
I thought this was the other chat room
for IS
 
Someone fire up the grill!
 
If a device connected to one port on a switch is limited to 100 Mbps, does that mean all other devices connected to the switch are limited as well?
 
@user10381 Friend of mine does expert testimony for that kind of thing. Makes a fat chunk of change doing it. You need a lawyer.
 
2:35 AM
@user10381 Depends entirely on the locality that you live in, that the code was written in, that the company is operating in, the conditions under which the code was written - you know, the kind of thing that pretty much only a lawyer with hours worth of digging into the details could answer.
 
@NathanOsman Only if the switch REALLY SUCKS.
 
@MichaelHampton Sorry. I'm cranky today.
 
@user10381 This still isn't the chat room you're looking for.
 
@MichaelHampton It's also a home router.
 
@NathanOsman No, that's called a hub
 
2:36 AM
the one that says something about "a breach costs your arm"
or whatever
that chat room
 
@Andrew Oh, okay.
 
@MichaelHampton Can I pelt it with rocks until it goes away?
 
@NathanOsman Probably not, but theres a (good) chance that a crappy home won't switch at line speed either.
 
whats it called
 
@MDMarra I flashed DD-WRT to the router in case that helps.
 
2:37 AM

 The DMZ

A serious place where infosec is discussed PS we don't do hard...
 
thank u
no ones it though
 
So, wait until they are.
 
Gorramit. 17 damn minutes to restart a Java app.
And each damn one has to be in order.
 
is my English bad?
 
@user10381 Not at all.
 
2:39 AM
@user10381 Take the quiet time that will ensue after you join it to start looking up laywers in your area.
 
@user10381 You're fine other than being in the wrong room. You are pestering sysadmins though, and we're notoriously short-tempered. Or at least I am.
 
Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
 
Ketchup is disgusting.
 
wat
 
we spend most of our working day dealing with stupid people and the products created by stupid people.
 
2:41 AM
It's the devil condiment.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not some ketchup apologist, but horrible?
 
no, no
you just have to use it on the right things
 
I hate it - so nasty
and bbq sauce
 
barbecue sauce is spiced ketchup.
 
I avoid it on hotdogs and burgers in favor of more palate pleasing condiments, like a good spicy mustard or a relish.
 
2:42 AM
I don't really like ketchup either, but... barbecue sauce? Something's wrong with you, man.
 
But ketchup + sriracha for fries...mmmm
 
Spicy mustard + relish = ++++
 
I prefer to make my barbecue sauces from other things...
 
Sriracha is my shit
 
@FalconMomot Not in the carolinas
Their sauce is mustard based
 
2:43 AM
like today I made some out of sweet soy sauce, umezake, ground mustard, and some spices
@MDMarra that's true! maybe I should try to make some like that.
tomatoes are vile and give me heartburn.
 
do system administrators typically higher the people they administrate
 
@user10381 No, we plot how to make their death look like an accident.
 
thats joke right
sorry for my english
 
@user10381 Are you asking if someone in IT hires someone that works in human resources or accounting?
 
no
i wrote higher instead of hire sorry
 
2:48 AM
I understood that much, but I'm not sure what your actual question is
 
when you hire someone how do you conduct background checks?
do u through privately held websites like intelius who has access to public records
 
@cole So how was your first day back at the old-new job?
 
or do you employ licensed providers to screen
 
That's definitely a question for HR...
 
@user10381 Typically, IT people do not do the background check. If I'm hiring someone, I make a recommendation that we hire that person, then the human resources department does whatever background check is required.
Typically sysadmins don't worry about that sort of thing
 
2:49 AM
 
@Magellan pretty good. Everyone was happy to see me.
 
why does anyone need a human resources department
 
@cole Most excellent. Hopefully it scared the hell out of your boss sufficiently to shake him out of his complacency.
 
@Magellan We'll see.
 
@cole And you're still going to come visit Seattle, yes?
 
2:50 AM
@Magellan definitely.
I want to go visit my friends out there anyways.
 
@MDMarra thanks, sorry for bad english I dont think my questions are relevent for this chat room
 
@user10381 Hire, fire, promotion, compliance, benefits
 
sorry for being a bug to you guys
 
Excellent. And if you end up waiting until Summer, you'll really enjoy it. 17 hours of sunlight and lots of things to do.
 
bugging you guys
 
2:51 AM
Ok time for me to get some sleep, I have to work like a half day or something tomorrow and then a day off.
 
Without a human resources department, who would determine what health insurance provider a company is going to use. Or what retirement options employees will get.
 
:P
Goodnight
 
@cole I'd offer you a crashpad closer to downtown for carousing, but I'll have a pair of wailing baby girls in the house by then.
 
later brotato
 
hangovers and crying babies are a bad combo.
 
2:53 AM
HR is there to blog, mockingly, the times you emailed penis pictures to coworkers.
 
@voretaq7 Hey sweetness.
 
Did I get it right, @JoelESalas?
My impression of HN over the last 48h: PG hates women. PG doesn't hate women. PG maybe hates women. PG doesn't hate women.
 
Who is PG and why should I care?
 
Paul Graham.
 
More importantly, what is HN and why should I care?
 
3:02 AM
And he runs YCombinator (which runs Hacker News as well), so he gives a buttload of money to startups every few months and was quoted pretty terribly out of context by a woman about how he doesn't think women can be hackers
HN = Hacker News
 
I did read the "I Hate Women" blog post with all of the snippets from PG. I wasn't that impressed.
 
Turns out what he actually said was about a very specific group of women.
The editor edited out the word "these" so it came out as "women can't hack code"
 
He did say some things that were pretty bone-headed and cringe worthy, but not necessarily anti-lady.
 
What he actually said was "these women can't hack code" talking about a specific group of women who can't actually code
 
3:04 AM
A "journalist" selectively quoted someone to make them sound like a jackhole? Gods below!
 
In case you care, it's his rebuttal
 
I saw that come through this morning but wasn't in a place to read it.
Thanks for reposting.
 
<3
 
@MDMarra Must not be very much of a controversy; it's not on his wikipedia page.
 
@MDMarra Pants?
 
3:06 AM
@ScottPack at 10pm? get a grip.
@MichaelHampton Or he's written a bot in LISP to get rid of it!
 
@MDMarra :)
I'm still on vacation. All I know is that I have wine and it's dark.
It could just as easily be 8am.
 
In the interested of full disclosure: I've used both cPanel and phpMyAdmin today. I must say, I can understand why there's so many questions about using these products.
2
 
:|
I've installed phpMyAdmin
On an internet facing server
With no firewall turned on
 
Oh, you poor, poor, man.
 
I'm not even joking
Oh, academia
 
3:10 AM
Hey, I resemble that remark!
 
Fucking academic computing.
 
:D
@ScottPack You know it
 
@MDMarra I'll bet you left setup.php in place and accessible didn't you? DIDN'T YOU?!?
 
Nah, I did the best I could
 
I do know it! I know it very well.
Sure, by not running service iptables on. You set a pretty low bar on best.
 
3:13 AM
Oh, this was on Windows
Still is
 
@MDMarra You son ova...
 
You installed phpMyAdmin on a Windows box? I hate you with the passion of a thousand suns.
 
@ScottPack But first he installed PHP on IIS.
 
It also runs MySQL, MSSQL, IIS, PHP, Perl, uhhh
Lots of stuff
ColdFusion
 
@jscott Why would it run IIS when he can run Apache?
 
3:14 AM
what else...
 
Fucking ColdFusion.
 
plz, make it stop
 
Dude. You're killing my buzz what with describing your administrative practices. I need more drinks.
 
@ScottPack I've always thought of WAMP as the sound the network admin kicking someone squarely in their ass for installing that shit.
 
No wonder you espouse .local and site.com for your Domains.
@jscott No doubt.
 
3:16 AM
@ScottPack Oh, this was all against my advice. Why do you think it's all on one server?
It's a maltov cocktail of awful, but I kept it contained
A single server for everything I ever had to do that was truly awful
 
At least you had the sense to run with SSL on that HTTP alt port.
 
> It's a molotov cocktail of awful
I like it. It has a nice mouthfeel.
 
@jscott I did?
Are you sure about that?
 
@MDMarra whoosh
 
Speaking of molotov cocktails of awful how did everyone enjoy their sojourn home to fix their parent's computers?
 
3:19 AM
:)
Notice what department the server belongs to
right in the URL
 
@ScottPack I convinced mine to buy an iPad Air instead.
 
@ScottPack All I had to do was update a few tablet apps, it was lovely
 
@MDMarra That's comp sci?
 
@JoelESalas My parents run Vista and 7 and install just about everything they see on Tucows.
 
@jscott is it ever
 
3:20 AM
TUCOWS IS STILL A THING?
 
It runs flash now. Clearly.
 
@ScottPack wtf is that
 
Oh, right. Flash is what makes the rest of the Internet work. You wouldn't understand because you use iOS.
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@ScottPack Naw, that's some video/webm stuff. Real html5 yo
 
Watching an iOS user use the Internet must be like watching someone accidentally forget to install Noscript. Yes Virginia, this is how sites look when they work.
 
3:26 AM
@ScottPack I see no flash on there, looks like it's HTML5 <video>
 
if it was flash, I would've seen a grey box instead of video.
 
I think flash might be finally dying.
 
@ShaneMadden Flash and web-plugin-Java cannot possibly die fast enough
 
@ShaneMadden I see a big flash block button right in the middle.
 
So wait, how big is @MDMarra's schlong?
3 hours ago, by MDMarra
@Andrew 12 inches in a foot. 1.5 feet to a mdmarra penis.
Ah, consoling...
for @MichaelHampton
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Q: Why does fdisk have a discrepancy in translating units between cylinder and sectors?

Beaming Mel-BinWe were re-partitioning a virtual disk to increase the size of an LVM's physical volume. This is how we initially performed this: $ fdisk /dev/sdb # delete partition fdisk> d ? 1 # create new partition fdisk> n ? p ? 1 first cylinder? [ENTER] last cylinder? [ENTER] # set LVM type fdisk> t ? 8e ...

 
3:40 AM
@ewwhite I don't feel like doing math for people tonight...
 
fdisk math is harrrrd!
that happens to me every so often
 
Buy a calculator!
 
And put a textbook on it?
 
@ScottPack Are you on some horrible browser, maybe?
 
I'm busy... answering four year old questions from deleted users.
 
3:44 AM
Dec 20 '11 at 14:39, by Kyle Brandt
@ScottPack: Maybe when you visit your family this holiday, you can have a relative that can update your browser help you?
 
3:56 AM
Fucking NSA.
Ruining everything.
This isn't making me feel any safer.
 

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