The Comms Room

10:01 PM

@voretaq7 Yes. I'd +1 that. Right before deleting it :p

Although you now lose votes on deleted answers, so thats not so helpful any more

@MarkHenderson "For insurance (and Summer of Love) purposes, it is Insanity Wolf who is making the threats."

(we just keep feeding him. <talking-to-the-dog voice>Who's a good little throat-ripper? It's you! yes it is!</talking-to-the-dog voice>)

hmm... would it be inappropriate to put the Courage Wolf one on the backup wiki? I guess so, huh?

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 Can you put images on wiki pages?

Justin Dearing

Actually, you should point out that crazy girlfriend should be in charge of backing uop your data

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson It appears so. (Not in the summary, but it shows up in the preview for the tag wiki itself)

Aaron Copley

Mark Henderson

10:14 PM

@AaronCopley Haha I remember when I was given my first domain admin account, "before anyone notices" was a common thing for me

"Middle of the day, don't want to log in when I'm at home, restart Exchange in the middle of the day, hope nobody notices, blame on a network glitch if they do"

Aaron Copley

If no one notices, then it didn't really happen, now did it? :)

So it certainly couldn't have been your fault because it didn't really happen!

Joel E Salas

@AaronCopley I also like "Perform PITR before anyone notices"

84104

Did you guys know that we're reddit?

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Q: Adding apple.schema from OS X Lion Server fails

When I try to add apple.schema to my OpenLDAP running on Debian this is the error I get; root@directory:~# ldapadd -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -f apple.schema SASL/EXTERNAL authentication started SASL username: gidNumber=0+uidNumber=0,cn=peercred,cn=external,cn=auth SASL SSF: 0 ldapadd: invalid fo...

WesleyDavid

@AaronCopley I don't always read the man page, but when I do I end up shouting "Why is this so out of date and only showing half the switches available?"

84104

Sad thing is, I know exact what his problem is, but now I'm not going to bother answering.

voretaq7

10:30 PM

nobody edit it.

Aaron Copley

@84104 hah! nice find.

voretaq7

:)

WesleyDavid

Who in their right mind would ask a /r/ for help.

Aaron Copley

Should all respond with meme pics. "Not sure if confused. Or really think this is Reddit." -- "Cross posts question, claims wrong site is only hope." -- "CROSS POST ALL THE SITES!!!"

WesleyDavid

Reddit is fun, but I'll be damned if I ask a serious question on any subreddit

Rqomey

10:31 PM

unix.stackexchange.com/questions/45089/… Ahh, question on unix.sf reminded me of the magic sysrq key :)

I remember the first time I heard about it, I just HAD to hit it on my keyboard. It's like a big red button or something, can't resist!

Aaron Copley

"What if I told you... this is serverfault?"

WesleyDavid

@Rqomey I liked it so much I wrote some blog posts about it! royal.pingdom.com/?s=sysrq =)

Which reminds me, they're supposed to publish my third in that series but haven't yet. Time to poke them...

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid ...insanity wolf?

I wish I could lock a post to prevent the OP from fixing it. Gave him an answer :-P

Rqomey

@Wesley It's toooo much fun. Other admin in my place had to reboot a server he messed up using it, only thing he had working was mcedit :) had to edit echo to /proc/sys-trigger (whatever) Classic move

WesleyDavid

@voretaq7 EAT!! BABIES!!

Mark Henderson

10:35 PM

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A: Shutdown from login prompt in tty

I've done this before with a user named "s" and no password. IIRC you set the user's shell to /sbin/shutdown. Prolly need to add it to /etc/shells.

^^ Sounds like a security loophole to me

voretaq7

Such a tender age....
No. Seriously. When they're that young they haven't been able to develop much muscle - it's like fuckin' veal man!

@MarkHenderson not a terrible one - FreeBSD (at least) won't let you log in remotely with a blank password

so you'd have to be at the console, at which point you could three-finger the box or hit the reset button on the panel.

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 Ah, this is true

voretaq7

Of course if your OS allows no-password logins via telnet or something (maybe SCO still does?) then you'd be fucked. But you're running SCO - so... yeah.

Aaron Copley

@voretaq7 I am tempted to edit the question though, and comment with:

WesleyDavid

The first rule of being a Redditor is that YOU DO NOT ADMIT TO BEING A REDDITOR

voretaq7

10:39 PM

@AaronCopley if you have the link to his /r/sysadmin question I'll make my reddit link link there :)

LinkLINKlinkLinkitylinkLINK!

WesleyDavid

But what do I know? I'm not a redditor.

ಠ_ಠ

voretaq7

god I feel like an internet marketeer...

@WesleyDavid LIES! ALL REDDITORS ARE CATS, THEREFORE ALL CATS ARE REDDITORS!

KHAT!

WesleyDavid

mew

Mark Henderson

@voretaq7 Another inference from that is that if a human uses reddit, they instantly become a cat

Rqomey

@WesleyDavid Updated my answer to link to your post instead, wikipedia's such a joke anyway, who needs it

Aaron Copley

10:40 PM

@voretaq7 reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/xwk5e/…

Mark Henderson

Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me

Aaron Copley

BOOMDERYAGO

voretaq7

@AaronCopley Danke.

WesleyDavid

@Rqomey You are a gentleman among scholars.

Joel E Salas

I think everyone has a technology that enrages them beyond all reason. For me, that technology is Debian.

voretaq7

10:42 PM

Also wikified it so y'all can upvote my snark without me getting all rep-cappy :P

WesleyDavid

@JoelESalas For me, that technology is pull top soup cans. Seriously, can you open them without splashing dots of soup on your shirt?!

Mark Henderson

@JoelESalas For Womble it's monit

voretaq7

@WesleyDavid yes. Break the seal then turn the can.

Joel E Salas

@WesleyDavid The secret is to remain calm and pull slowly. The soup will still be there if you pull ever slightly more slowly.

voretaq7

(Or ya know, use a can opener and fuck that pull-top shit...)

WesleyDavid

10:42 PM

@voretaq7 ಠ_ಠ

voretaq7

@JoelESalas Um, dude, have you ever seen a cat when a can is being opened? They CAN NOT control themselves.

Rqomey

@WesleyDavid Its just unix.sf tho (ie. will be lost in the sands of time)

voretaq7

It's like some genetic feral instinct thing

Joel E Salas

@voretaq7 It comes from eons of ancient cats chasing down the canned food of the savannah

voretaq7

@MarkHenderson Dear Monit: Intermapper is better. Sorry.

Joel E Salas

10:43 PM

and shitting in little rectangles in the wild.

voretaq7

@JoelESalas it's evolved over the years. Used to be the sound of a clay amphora being taken off the shelf would get all the cats running to your pyramid...

Joel E Salas

@voretaq7 My clay amphora brings all the cats to the yard?

voretaq7

@JoelESalas ayup/

Aaron Copley

What to do here for another hour... Too long to do nothing, too short to accomplish any project.

Jeff Ferland

@AaronCopley Fridge->get(beer);

Aaron Copley

10:48 PM

The days of working some where they stock beer are long over... :(

voretaq7

I AM NOT SCUMBAG STEVE!
I'm a WAY bigger douchebag asshole than that n00bling!

Zoredache

@AaronCopley review your documentation, and update?

Aaron Copley

@voretaq7 Hahaha I was waiting for you to notice that!

voretaq7

@Zoredache DocuWhatNow? In the WhereWho?

Aaron Copley

@Zoredache O_o;; Documentation huh... errmmm uh... yea. I uh... I write stuff down. Just let me ... uh .. fumbles through drawers and piles of loose paper

voretaq7

10:49 PM

(cf. serverfault.com/questions/415249/pxe-boot-linux-what-goes-where )

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Docu-mints. I haven't heard of that brand before, but they're those things you eat to keep your breath fresh after hours of sitting behind a computer without brushing your teeth.

Zoredache

@AaronCopley just shuffle your papers around for an hour while your mind wanders then.

Aaron Copley

:)

voretaq7

@Zoredache Don't encourage sloppy documentation practices.

@AaronCopley needs a good copy of LaTeX

and tex.stackexchange.com

...and a good strong drink.

In fact you can forget the typesetting software and the Q&A site and still be well on your way...

HopelessN00b

Right. Your non-existent documentation shouldn't be shuffled, or it gets out of order, and then you can't find the piece of paper with all the passwords written on it when you need it.

Aaron Copley

10:53 PM

@HopelessN00b That goes under the keyboard!

Zoredache

@voretaq7 BTW, isn't support for IA64 dead on Fedora/Centos/Redhat?

voretaq7

@Zoredache I thought IA64 lived up to its Itanic name and sunk on its maiden voyage

I mean HP adopted it, isn't that the kiss-of-death?

HopelessN00b

@AaronCopley I can't put the password sheet under my keyboard... that's where I hide all the keys and RF access cards I have.

voretaq7

@HopelessN00b you're supposed to pull the RFID chips and embed them in your watchband or something so when you get near doors they just unlock obediently.

(When people ask you just say "The systems here know their true master")

OK, haircut time, seeing as how I slacked off yesterday, didn't get one, and am now DoublePlusShaggy

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Alright, I'm so trying that. I wonder if I can boost the range on those things and attach them to a cellphone battery, or something like that...

Rqomey

10:59 PM

@WesleyDavid Alt+SysRq+c: Performs a NULL pointer dereference - is there anything this would be useful for?

Mark Henderson

@Rqomey Deliberately crash an uncrecoverable program

Although according to wikipedia:

Magic SysRq key

The magic SysRq key is a key combination understood by the Linux kernel, which allows the user to perform various low level commands regardless of the system's state. It is often used to recover from freezes, or to reboot a computer without corrupting the filesystem. Much like Sun Microsystems's Open Firmware (OpenBoot), this key combination provides access to powerful tools for software development and disaster recovery. In this sense, it can be considered a form of escape sequence. Principal among the offered commands are means to forcibly unmount file systems, kill processes, reco...

Rqomey

Program or entire system?

Mark Henderson

Reboot kexec and output a crashdump

HopelessN00b

Or a recoverable one?

Too many tickets coming in through email. Mail server crash, problem solved.

My boss has been encouraging me to think outside the box lately. He may end up regretting that soon.

willbradley

Hey IT homies; last chance to get your hands on my new keychain punchdown tool: indiegogo.com/keychain-punchdown -- making them because I think other admins might want them, whether that's 10 or 1000 is up to you :)

Mark Henderson

11:06 PM

Hey that's neat

HopelessN00b

Who are you suppose to punch with it, though? My LART does a lot more damage.

Mark Henderson

To be honest though, $50 seems like a bit of an expensive punchdown when I can buy them for $5 at my local wholesaler

willbradley

Indignant AWG22

$5, really? The bits cost me $7 alone and Fluke tools cost ~$50. It's because if I can't mass-produce them, I'm machining, anodizing, and assembling them by hand and that's a significant amount of my time

Mark Henderson

@willbradley Well, not a minature one like yours, thats true, but an old fashioned punchdown yes

Don't get me wrong, I can totally see how something like that would be useful. I'd like to see one kept next to each patch panel

willbradley

Like a plastic one? Even the old solid ones seem to go for ~$15

Lucas Kauffman

11:10 PM

What's a punchdown tool used for?

Rqomey

@MarkHenderson (after a quick google) so it reloads the kernel? Sounds like it takes down the whole system then. Was wondering what null-point deference has got to do with it.

willbradley

But anyway the goal was to bootstrap a production run in China to offer them at a better price after the initial run.

Rqomey

I'll just look incomprehensibly at the kernel source for a while maybe (where's that cat pic?)

willbradley

@LucasKauffman it's the cousin to an RJ45 crimper; for connecting network cables to jacks

Zoredache

@LucasKauffman are you being serious? They are used to attach wires to a punch block. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_block en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110_block

willbradley

11:12 PM

i know some admins/coders don't touch physical infra, it's ok ;)

but yeah: i know they're not cheap, it's more of a "do you want this to exist?" kind of thing

Mark Henderson

@willbradley In that case, "yes"

willbradley

:D

Mark Henderson

I want something like that to exist

Just the other day I had to use my pocket knife to force a phone cable back into its block after I pulled on it too hard

Lucas Kauffman

I think I got one for free when I bought my RJ45 pliers at dealextreme

was wondering what they were used for

Mark Henderson

@LucasKauffman Otherwise known as a "crimper"?

Lucas Kauffman

11:14 PM

like the ones where you put the plastic thingie in and squeeze? if so, yes :p

Zoredache

@willbradley this is your competition. weconnex.com/110-88-non-impact-punchdown-tool.html

Mark Henderson

@willbradley - you throwing in free shipping for the indigogo project?

willbradley

I can't bootstrap a production run with this few purchases, but I can make an extra one or two while I'm at it. So the more people get the more will be available. If we get as few as 40 orders, I can mass produce.

ooh, how'd you find that @Zoredache? i hunted for days

no keychain loop though...

Zoredache

I went to amazon and I searched for 'punch down tool', and saw it on the second page.

willbradley

feh

Zoredache

11:16 PM

I always start my search on amazon when I am looking for stuff.

Mark Henderson

@willbradley Don't be disheartened. Yours is nicer

And that one looks larger

willbradley

who uses 88 blocks?

Lucas Kauffman

whats that site again where you can give money to all these startups?

Zoredache

You also have one of these, but they are a bit crappy.

amazon.com/PLASTIC-PUNCH-DOWN-Intellinet-504539/dp/B000BSHH84/…

willbradley

ah there we go, a 66 version

Mark Henderson

11:17 PM

@LucasKauffman kickstarter?

Lucas Kauffman

yes

willbradley

eww get it away

Chopper3

Do people still use 110? thought it was only good for 10Mbps?

Zoredache

That is $3, and could attach it to your keychain.

willbradley

no 66 though, and plastic

110 is used on almost all new installs. 66 is mainly for phones

Mark Henderson

11:19 PM

@LucasKauffman I've given a bit of money to kickstarter projects

Still waiting on my bluetooth hidden speaker from almost a year ago, so you gotta prepare to be patient

kickstarter.com/projects/2107726947/…

Zoredache

@Chopper3 I am finding some 110 blocks that are supposedly rated for CAT6 as I search.

Chopper3

Talking of Amazon, a bit drunk the other night I ordered some of this

amazon.co.uk/Crime-Scene-Not-Enter-Tape/dp/B001PQML96/…

Mark Henderson

@Chopper3 Awesome

willbradley

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/66_block en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110_block I'm sure you could manage to punch CAT6 down to a 66 block and achieve gigabit speeds... not easy or recommended, but not impossible

Chopper3

I'm terrible for drink-shopping, ebay's the worst, bought a bunch of sea monkeys once, next time I was hammered I drank them

Mark Henderson

11:21 PM

@Chopper3 That... that is fantastic

I can't even remember the last time I was drunk. Damn you family life.

Chopper3

I figured I was pooping out sea monkey cadavers for days

Mark Henderson

Although I suspect as I approach 30 my hangovers are only going to get worse

Chopper3

@MarkHenderson I have a family life, I just get drunk with my kids now - fucking lighweights

willbradley

but anyway the nice thing about my keychain punchdown tool is, it uses standard twist-lock bits with cutters, and is as small as i can make it while still fitting that bit and not hurting your hands

Chopper3

@MarkHenderson I was once sick in a spin-dryer

willbradley

11:23 PM

all metal, so it'll last you forever

Mark Henderson

@Chopper3 Yeah, I suspect my 2-year-old might not be able to take more than 1 or 2 light beers

Lucas Kauffman

@Chopper3 you drank seamen?

2

Chopper3

@MarkHenderson you never know until you try

Mark Henderson

@LucasKauffman God god... if only I could pin that... oh, wait...

Chopper3

My son's had a skype video call with his girlfriend open for nearly 10 hours now - what shows I'm a geek isn't that I should tell him to do something else but how impressed I am with its stability

Lucas Kauffman

11:26 PM

@Chopper3 10 hours? what do you tell eachother for 10 hours?

Chopper3

more like show and tell I imagine

willbradley

if they're 13, "i just wanna hear you breathing"

or was that 16

Chopper3

nearly 17 - it's probably like the chatroulette

Mark Henderson

@willbradley I just shuddered

I had a girlfriend who wouldn't let me hang up the phone until she fell asleep

I now call that girlfriend my wife, but thankfully she grew out of that stage by the time she was 19

willbradley

/millions of "nice guys" assume the fetal position

Chopper3

11:27 PM

@MarkHenderson did you not know how to end the call?

Lucas Kauffman

@Chopper3 tons of penis?

Mark Henderson

@Chopper3 Too bad it's not RTP. Otherwise it would be pcap at the router and replay later on...

Chopper3

@MarkHenderson so you've been together that long?

willbradley

she hasn't fallen asleep

Mark Henderson

@Chopper3 Yep. And back then I was a horny teenager man, anything that might take away from the chance of getting to touch boobs was not a risk worth taking

willbradley

11:28 PM

he keeps trying to end it, but she keeps calling back

Chopper3

@MarkHenderson so presumably you can count the girls you've banged in three-bits?

Mark Henderson

@Chopper3 Fewer

Lucas Kauffman

@MarkHenderson ROFL now that's desperate :p

willbradley

/me counts

hmm

Mark Henderson

@LucasKauffman Hey, now as an adult, I still try not to take the risk of doing anything that will take away from boob time. Difference is now that boob time is about once a week, rather than every time you're alone

Chopper3

11:29 PM

@MarkHenderson wow - kinda/sorta good for you, nothing in the wank-bank though

willbradley

i'm pretty sure 3 bits is an average upper bound for nerd sex partners

Lucas Kauffman

@MarkHenderson boob time decreases over time D:?

Mark Henderson

@Chopper3 Haha, I try to be a good boy. Wanking over an ex whilst with someone else seems wrong

Lucas Kauffman

how does one get bored of boobtime?

Chopper3

@willbradley ? really ?

willbradley

11:30 PM

i mean, 4 or 5 bits sounds pretty crazy

Mark Henderson

@LucasKauffman IOf course

ewwhite

Dorks... all of you.

Chopper3

@willbradley the second girl I slept with was well into the hundreds, crazy girl, gave me just about everything you can get rid of

Lucas Kauffman

@MarkHenderson how do boobies get boring?

Chopper3

@LucasKauffman when you discover the bo-peep/sheep and nazi/rabbi costumes

Mark Henderson

11:32 PM

@LucasKauffman They don't. They just get offered less often

Lucas Kauffman

@Chopper3 always use a condom!

willbradley

a 7-bit girl... shudder

Chopper3

@LucasKauffman this was the 80's

Lucas Kauffman

@Chopper3 they didn't have condoms in the 80's?

Chopper3

@willbradley 8 I imagine, she was at about 150 when I knew her

willbradley

11:33 PM

imagine if she overflowed 8 bits

Chopper3

@LucasKauffman yeah but you could get rid of everything

Lucas Kauffman

@Chopper3 how...?

ewwhite

Penicillin...

Lucas Kauffman

what has changed that you can't get rid of anymore these days

willbradley

they had herpes-b-gon in the 80s, now it's banned =/

Chopper3

11:34 PM

@LucasKauffman back in the 80's HIV wasn't known really and was very rare indeed, as was herpes

Lucas Kauffman

ah true

well me and the gf both first got a test when we started seeing eachother

Mark Henderson

@LucasKauffman That sounds sensible

Even if it a bit clinical

Lucas Kauffman

@MarkHenderson yea, I found out I had HPV, which apparently is quite common (over 70% of all people at least carry it once)

Mark Henderson

Mind you I know a few women with IUDs and if you're relying that for birth control, it's then a very wise move to make sure that you're both infection-free

@LucasKauffman Yep. Very common. It's also a pre-cursor to cervical cancer in women, so common but still has its risks

In Australia they offer a free HPV vaccination to all children 16 and over I think

Lucas Kauffman

yea but that's only against the lethal strings of the virus, there are over 70 different strings, only 8 or so of them are dangerous

the problem is neither of those give symptons on the skin, so they often go unnoticed until the cancer breaks out

Mark Henderson

11:44 PM

So is your girlfriend also a muppet?

Cos I don't think Muppets can reproduce

Lucas Kauffman

@MarkHenderson no she's human, she loves wearing t-shirts with my face on like this one I took the other day cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/64/0e/…

I had to slap her afterwards, the cookie monster doesn't share cookies you know

Mark Henderson

What a cow, wanting to eat your cookies

HopelessN00b

Really. You should totally kick her to the curb and give other nerds a chance. :p

Lucas Kauffman

nah men, I just gave her a head-bud right in the ovaries

but if you're interested in her we might be able to arrange something for a certain amount of chocolate chip cookies, freshly baked with high quality chocolate ofcourse

HopelessN00b

Let me ask the lawyer. I think it might still be legally considered prostitution, even if payment is rendered in baked goods.

Mark Henderson

11:53 PM

@LucasKauffman Is this for purchase, or lease, or hire-purchase?

Lucas Kauffman

lease I'm affraind

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b Prostitution is totally legal here

Lucas Kauffman

*affraid

@HopelessN00b here it's legal too

Mark Henderson

@LucasKauffman fair enough. After all, why buy the cow when you get the milk for some chocolate chip cookies?

HopelessN00b

This fscking continent.

Mark Henderson

11:54 PM

I'll get my wife to knock some up with some lindt chocolate. I imagine it will go like this:

"Honey, can you make a tin of your best chocolate biscuits with lindt chocololate"
"Okay... why?"
"So I can buy a mistress"

I bet that would end well

Lucas Kauffman

:p

HopelessN00b

Well that's where you do that lying thing I've so much about, obviously. :p

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b I think you accidentally a word

Lucas Kauffman

miss piggy looks after the girls, kermit is my driver and enforcer

Mark Henderson

Actually, in real life it would go more like:

"Honey, can you make a tin of your best chocolate biscuits with lindt chocololate"
"No, fuck off, I'm not your maid"
"But I need them to make an exchange"
"Exchange for what?"
"A mistress"
"No."

Lucas Kauffman

11:57 PM

anywho

I'm off to bed

dreaming of cookies

nn!

Mark Henderson

Cya

Don't ejaculate on the bed sheets

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