@ScottPack You should see what happens when I turn on -v for my posts.
@womble I'm not sure how to approach the site and general "snark" sometimes. At some points, it seems that a terse response is appropriate, at other times it seems that an understanding and soft response is.
Professional behaviour begets professional behaviour. Getting annoyed because someone (politely) tells you that your stupid idea is stupid begets a double-barrelled snark cannon.
I am referring here, specifically, to this monster of a stupid question:
I need to give a solution for a situation where sys admins have not enabled POP,IMAP access of mail server only web based access is allowed.At the same time some people would like for them to be able to use some thing at their (client machines) an email client like Outlook,Thunderbird.
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Someone voted to send that to SuperUser? That's not at all a SuperUser question. That a "User trying to subvert the IT department's decisions without going through proper managerial channels" question.
@WesleyDavid That needs to be put in the off-topic destination picker: "If you think that just because this question isn't professional, it belongs on Superuser, then you're an idiot"
@WesleyDavid WTF? "the admins do not want to enable IMAP or POP3…I have to give them a solution.The admins themselves have asked me some of their users need such an access." DERP DERP DERP TURN ON IMAP
@MikeyB But he can't turn on IMAP -- nor can he coherently explain why he can't turn on IMAP, just that "someone" doesn't want it turned on (one time he blames it on the admins, another time he claims that there are no admins). I'm wondering if his various personalities comprise his entire organisation.
"The Answer (note the caps) is to enable IMAP. End of story. Anything else is subpar. Why in the world are your admins asking you to provide a solution that does not involve IMAP? Nothing about your various comments make sense. – MikeyB 21 mins ago" (Just the right amount of snark I think; I stopped before adding "You or your organization fails at life.")
This right here is the gem: @womble it is not possible do enable POP/IMAP why in the world people have all the suggestions which do not work in some ones environment.
@WesleyDavid I laugh at people who put battery backups in their colo racks when it's not cost-effective to do so. How much business will rimu lose as a result of this outage, and is the cost of that loss of business greater than the cost of equipping every rack with local UPSes capable of sustaining service for 67 hours (and the associated ongoing maintenance and occasional loss of service when a UPS decides to go batshit insane)
@womble Sure, sustaining 67 hours of outage is not cost effective. I'm more concerned with cutting power to running servers and the attendant corruption that is involved. Just 15 minutes worth of power should be able to gracefully shut most things down and avoid a week's worth of fsck'ing when you get power back up.
@WesleyDavid I somewhat agree the point he is trying to make there. Just dumping things into a git project is probably not the best idea.
I am kinda thinking something more like commandlinefu.com would be the real goal. With each script having an associated description, and some kind of reputation system associated with it
I wouldn't go so far as to call it a debacle, but having rolled out a large-scale (pervasive, actually) HTTPS site, it certainly doesn't need to be as hard as the SE admins are making out.
@WesleyDavid It doesn't matter; if the script was written for work, it'll need the signoff of management to licence it under any licence, and far too often that requires more hassle than is justified to contribute the 187th variant of an incomplete script to backup MySQL databases (the variant of which that is currently in the repo is a particularly poignant example).
Actually, the more I look at that script, the more it justifies my position.
Hmm, interesting. Having myself either worked in informal environments or for myself, the notion of having to get your workplace's sign off to share something like that never occurred to me.
Not in the sense that any of the scripting I did was owned by the place that was using my skills, no. The "joy" of working for SMBs with an emphasis on the S. Oh, and non-profits. Non-profits / charities are a bit loose when it comes to who they pick to do work and what terms come with working for them.
Which is why, at the non profits I've worked at, I usually ended up doing a lot of work that reminded me of mucking out stalls. Stalls with digestion-challenged cows. Big cows.
And yes, I was thinking of the individual places where the cows bed down within a barn. Specifically the mental image I had was of cows at a show, tied... and pooping. Lots of poop.
Does anyone wish that there was the ability to attach text files to a post? I'd love for people to be able to upload their whole /var/log/messages file or something similar.
You drink milk with untold thankfulness when you've been around a dairy. Either that or you only drink Diet Coke.
I wonder what made the person come back and do that. Perhaps a poor answer percentage was getting him heckled so he went back and assigned answers where they were due?
He just asked this four minutes ago. serverfault.com/questions/300915/… I bet he saw his own accept rate and decided to fix that situation.
Judging by his other awarded answers he has an annoying habit of assigning an answer and not upvoting it. I don't know why, but that is a pet peeve of mine.
@womble @WesleyDavid Re: SSL.. reading the meta posts on that subject was a bit surreal, it was like stepping into an alternate universe where CPU usage was non-trivial for an SSL stream.
@womble Haha, maybe. Anyway, I think the end result of those discussions was more of a "we'll do it eventually, it's just not a priority" - just odd to see some of the myths needing to be dispelled.
If anyone is paying attention, I mentioned a couple days ago, that we have a job opening. Here is the announcement and details. The job is basically somewhere in the SAGE level I or II range.
Grr there's a dude that requires a snarky comment, and I just vowed to stop them /sadface
> @Ben - Thanks for your information. But I need immediately please don't close it. After I found an answer I myself will delete this question. Please wait until then. Please give me some time. I hope SF will give me the best answer in best time
I was poking round with the data explorer recently and noticed I was very close to a generalist badge. That made me take a bit more notice of 2 tags but generally I like the surprise too. I picked up an Ubuntu badge today which was a surprise
There is a show votes option for developers, but we explicitly disallow it on our own posts -- to reduce any temptation of looking at votes on our own posts.
The intent of the function is to look at voting irregularities at the developer level.
And of course developers have access to the underl...
@Iain 3600+ miles on the van in 2 weeks. In the last 3 days, went from 105F in Vegas to - literally - billions of midge bugs in Klamath Falls OR, to a little bit of rain when we got home at 2am this morning.
@ShaneMadden There were still a few inside the van 300 miles after we left Klamath. I dunno how anyone can stand it - they don't bite, but they're everywhere, all day and all night.
@ShaneMadden I disagree... the only thing we've got evidence of him screwing up is my.cnf. There's the definite possibility he's done other things, but that's assuming facts not in evidence, which is the same thing we hammer on n00bs for doing.
@Zoredache She likes them? Bloody hell. I can see "doesn't know any better", but looks at them and goes "yes, that's the way I want to present our company to potential employees"... that blows my mind.
@ShaneMadden That would be reading comprehension fail on my part, then.
@ShaneMadden, I agree, I have offered that suggestion. I have argued a lot on some of the major design failures of our site. I have pretty much given up, and just make sure the servers are running.
@womble you should ring about the job and ask for the URL. When she reads it out, say "you are not serious, are you? I'm not writing all that down" and hang up :-)
{reposting just in case anyone doesn't want to scroll back.} -- If anyone is paying attention, I mentioned a couple days ago, that we have a job opening. Here is the announcement and details. The job is basically somewhere in the SAGE level I or II range.
What does a school district need with a full-time marketing wonk anyway?
Oh, I see we're way out in la-la land already... "To apply for a professional/technical or classified position submit the following: [...] Signed letters of recommendation"
@Zoredache It shows a complete and utter lack of knowledge about how the world works these days. Nobody's boss actually writes a letter of recommendation; the employee writes it and the boss signs it (usually blind). They're also an incredibly poor way of judging someone, as there's no ability for the hiring manager to try and get any sort of real information about the applicant (in the rare case you can get any more than a "from date-to-date" reference these days out of anyone)
@wfaulk Ugh. I had to implement document signing for a couple departments at my last job. The users were always confused when the "digital signature" wasn't an image of the person's signature. Some scanned their signatures and embedded them in documents in lieu of signing the file.
@Zoredache If you can't get that out of a resume, you probably shouldn't be reviewing resumes (if the resume's good enough to fool you, the candidate-written letters of recommendation will too). If you can't get "somewhat pointless" after a phone screen, you need to work on your interview technique.
@ShaneMadden I think it was originally hit-the-rep-cap, but it's definitely 200-per-day now. I got Epic off about 30-odd rep-caps.
@womble, I agree, my boss agrees about the letters, but we are government, and this particular requirement comes from somewhere else and is outside our control... Like several other somewhat stupid things.
@Iain That's my point -- I only hit the rep-cap 30-odd times, but got epic (because I had 50 200-or-more days)
@Zoredache I'm not blaming you personally for instituting the policy, but I am going to ridicule idiotic hiring practices... it's better than ridiculing idiotic questions.
@Iain You mean apart from the "Trigger Reputation Recalc" button? <grin> "rep cap was reached via rep from upvotes only on 34 days" and "earned at least 200 reputation on 56 days"
@Nixphoe This is precisely why I rage against bad hiring practices. It's why I didn't go work for Google, for example. It's also why I try to make hiring as smooth and painless as possible at places I work.
After configuring a domain name to use the name server of the new server, the new server had become inaccessible (even if using the IP address). Is this normal?
I need to give a solution for a situation where sys admins have not enabled POP,IMAP access of mail server only web based access is allowed.At the same time some people would like for them to be able to use some thing at their (client machines) an email client like Outlook,Thunderbird.
I reme...
After configuring a domain name to use the name server of the new server, the new server had become inaccessible (even if using the IP address). Is this normal?
