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4:01 AM
g'morrow
 
Hello
 
Howdy ho, 'net neighbor.
 
@WesleyDavid I don't understand(
 
@alvosu Sorry, I was being a bit too regional. That's a dorky way of saying: "Hello"
 
@WesleyDavid Ok
 
4:27 AM
Burned up my whole day doing "real work" and didn't get a chance to play any Server Fault... >sigh<
Anybody want to play "What would you do with the problem I was called in on today?" Heh heh... Microsoft PSS didn't uncover the root cause, and I got called in after they told the Customer to rebuild from backup.
 
 
5 hours later…
9:37 AM
Heya
Anyone know how I can tell whether my windows server receives (HTTP/SOAP) packets from a known ip without using wireshark/fiddler?
 
which http server are you running ?
you should be able to log these requests like any other http request
 
9:57 AM
Windows Server 2003
 
This is a Server Operating System not a HTTP Server, IIS would be an HTTP Server or maybe Apache?
 
Ah, sorry, yes - IIS!
IIS 6
 
With logging enabled you should be able to trace whether the requests are arriving.
 
10:20 AM
Thanks!
@pacey: It worked wonders, thank you, once more! :)
 
you're welcome :)
 
 
1 hour later…
11:53 AM
howdy parners!
 
good day
hows things today?
 
complex, that's how things are today, bloody complex - had this really odd, yet understandable, new functional requirement to sit thing "data frigger" application that's not been written yet in between two otherwise stable application blocks - it's SO easy for people to just say "stick it inbetween those" on a whiteboard - now I've got to figure it all out
ah well, pays the bills
 
12:15 PM
paying the bills is good. Plans that grow like topsy in that way are not so good
neither is the fact that my sodding back is acting up again. Ouch.
At least the new BOFH is up
 
12:26 PM
I've never read those to be honest
 
fair enough
 
great. Microsoft just called. License review :(
 
ugh
 
@pauska Looks like you're gonna be busy for a while.
 
1:01 PM
@pauska - I finished one of those about 3 weeks ago - it was relatively painless actually
(Provided you're all legal :P)
 
@Pauska: forgive the crap memory: k-12 or uni?
 
@BenPilbrow Where is the onus? On you to prove your compliance, or on them to show you aren't?
Also, just Ben wasn't good enough, I suppose?
 
Nah there's another Ben and I kept getting chat notification thingies :)
All they asked of us was to provide a count of what MS software we had installed, with 5 example product codes from each
 
1:16 PM
Oh, that's easy.
 
They can be tricky though and say things like "you have x Windows Server CALs and y Exchange CALS. These are generally the same, explain yourself..." etc.
You have x computers and y installations of Office - explain yourself...
 
Although, we're part of a state-wide purchasing contract, so I'm not sure how an audit of our shop would happen. Would they hit us up directly, or talk to the guys at the state level
 
You get the gist
 
good ${time_of_day}
 
One of these day's you're going to try that to find that someone easter egged that so it auto-leaves you from the chat :-)
 
1:21 PM
@BenPilbrow It's the 'Explain Yourself' that could get interesting. Only because of coming up with things like 'this department doesn't use Office because it is an evil MS product...this department averages 6 computers per person", etc
 
You'll know it when @kylebrandt is snickering in the corner.
 
@Iain Good ${UTC-5}{Morning}
 
:)
 
I figure, if you're not in the canonical timezone you can translate it easier that way :)
 
I think they could do something with geoip
 
1:30 PM
You want all that into the site just to say "good morning?"
 
I would like to say good ${time_of_day} and for everyone else in chat to get a time-zone appropriate greeting
 
@BartSilverstrim: None, this is a corporation
 
I may be wrong, most probably I'll be wrong, but I remember that I've read that times on SF are UTC. So good afternoon would be appropriate according to UTC.
 
@pacey indeed
 
It's kind of easy to remember since I'm just an hour ahead of Zulu Time
 
1:33 PM
@pacey Phaw. UTC is only useful for logs so that you don't have to worry about daylight savings. Everyone knows one uses UTC-5 for anything important :)
 
:)
 
I have created cron jobs, when I run it manually it works but doesn't run when I want it to, is there any log I can check why it isn't running, and also how can i know whether the cron daemon is actually running and reading my cron jobs?
 
@Moak Cron should log at the files in /var/log/
 
@pacey or /var/log/cron depending on your distro and how they configure syslog
I suppose it could also be in /var/log/messages as well, but that would just be ugly
 
Thank you @packs.
 
1:39 PM
thanks, i'm reading through them right now
 
@Moak: A common mistake is to edit the crontab files by hand. You should always use crontab -e when editing the Cron Database.
 
Syslog locations are one of those that really annoy me for that very reason.
 
@pacey I used the webmin interface
 
Lines might (or probably will) look like this:
Feb 4 13:15:01 HOSTNAME /USR/SBIN/CRON[9749]: (USERNAME) CMD (sh /home/minecraft/updateMaps.sh)
 
@Moak How is the webmin interface for logs?
 
1:44 PM
@packs very straighforward
simple text viewing
Feb 4 08:20:01 * CRON[16512]: (root) CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) seems to be running
but don't see my custom command anywhere
 
Does your script in the run.hourly folder have the execute bit set?
 
I'm not sure i did the crontab -e as root
i get this
filename: /tmp/crontab.1X3KE2/crontab
and my command
but in the log i don't see my command being run
so i guess it's in the wrong folder?
 
Those are actually two different things :) Once an hour all the scripts in the /etc/cron.hourly folder get executed. That's what the log message you posted is about.
Or, you can put jobs in a user's crontab file, which it sounds like is what you did.
 
so i can just put my command in a file in the hourly directory?
/usr/bin/mysqldump --user=root --password=*** --host=127.0.0.1 mydb > /var/www/public/backup/daily_`/bin/date +\\%Y\\%m\\%d`.sql
I guess I'll see in an hour weather that worked :)
 
What you'll have to do is wrap that in a shell script, and make sure the script is set executable.
 
2:11 PM
Must be a mistake. Your password is just some asterisks.
 
I just remembered I haven't checked bash.org for a while.
 
@packs how do I 'wrap that in a shell script, and make sure the script is set executable.'
 
Ugggggggg just when I started working, suddenly all our VMs on our local VMware server stopped responding... cpu usage on the host is 97% idle, ps awx reports all Vms are in uninterpretable sleep! Nooooo.....
This is probably very bad right?
 
can you log in with the vsphere client?
since you're saying "ps awx", im guessing this is ESX or ESXi
 
VMware Server 2, but I am trying to open the web interface now
 
2:15 PM
oh
then i have no idea, sorry
start digging in logfiles
 
ESX doesn't run on this hardware sadly. It's a local machine we use for running business VMs, like QuickBooks and IE testbeds
Ug
Web interface is being finicky, all Vms have a ? icon, indicating they have a message
oh, whew
low free space, I can fix that
scared the crap out of me!
Who the heck used up all our free space??? >:o
 
SOMEbody's been downloading...large...files....
 
LOL, yeah really
Like they thought I wouldn't notice :-)
 
/josh looks pensively around the room, hunches back over the console...
"Nothing to see here...fixed in a moment..."
 
well, it should be fixed, but df still reports 100% usage even though there's 10GB now free, odd...
oh, haha, 99.89%
now to go add nagios monitoring for this partition ;-)
 
2:25 PM
If files are being in use by another process they will be deleted effictively when all Handles are released. You can check this with the fuser or the lsof command.
 
Something still has the files open.
Won't be freed until the process(es) close.
 
Actually it was a maths error, adding 10GB of extra space to a 1TB volume that was 100% full only brings it to 99.89% full :-)
actually no, 99.09%...
I still don't believe we're using the full 1TB. Someone's going to get an email :-)
(Although I'm likely to discover it was some extra files I left lying around, LOL)
 
BLOODY!@#%!@#
STupid Active Directory
sigh
Trying to find a way to find all locked out accounts...
boss said he had a utility that did it, stepped through everything and it gave a list of 400 objects.
Strange, I thought, looking at the list...some of them shouldn't be locked out.
Right click, checked the properties. It's not locked out.
spot check a few other accounts, not locked out.
Bloody!#%
/grumble
So I googled.
 
@BartSilverstrim That's always frustrating!
 
So I find several sites saying to use server 2003 with saved query in the U&C management console. Stepped through it, entering a nice arcane string for querying LDAP. Run! And...another list of 400+ user objects.
AND THEY'RE NOT LOCKED OUT EITHER.
 
2:34 PM
Argh! Even worse!
 
You should be able to query AD like this:
(&amp;(objectClass=User)(!(userAccountControl:1.2.840.113556.1.4.803:=2)))
 
(&(objectCategory=Person)(objectClass=User)(lockoutTime>=1))
 
is what works for me
 
I'd help if I could, but I know zero about AD
 
@Pacey...must be a typo because if not I'm in a lot of trouble.
 
2:38 PM
Oh mea culpa, I was wrong, Bart was right. My query will list all disabled users.
 
Not it wont.
It will match all not disabled users.
 
Sometimes I wonder what MS administrators were thinking when they left basic queries out of their tools this long...and why it's so difficult to just query for a bit set to disabled or not disabled.
My query doesn't even match what it's supposed to.
According to MS knowledgebase.
Looks like I'll have to take it to SF.
 
Anyone here worked with ASA 8.3 or 8.4? The new NAT rules are mighty fun...
 
@BartSilverstrim Bitwise operations aren't that complicated if you don't mind the 1.2.840.113556.1.4.803 gibberish ;-)
 
2:46 PM
@pacey: You're going to cite full IPv6 addresses instead of shortcuts, aren't you?
 
Nah, can't remember them that well.
 
Everyone here speaks hex, don't they? :P
 
0x1FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
err sorry stuck keey
 
I bashed my head on the keyboard while running MS Debug and changed my DOS version...does that count?
 
3:04 PM
@MuraliSuriar 0xDEADBEEF ?
 
0xCAFEBABE
 
just had half of a 32-host ESXi cluster totally die for a short while because some dick setup a VM with a DHCP/PXE service that decided to stomp all over a block of host management interface IPs! thank god I split the range
 
oopsie.
 
yep, quickly spotted and sorted but still...
 
3:15 PM
@Chopper3 now you have to go sort that guy out
 
no, leave that to the customer
doesnt' work for me
 
ahh
 
Someone ELSE gets to wield the Mallet of Loving Correction.
 
The number of minecraft questions seems to have dropped, or is this only my perception?
 
I've not played Minecraft for a while, shame really, I've got a mesh for a massive deadmau5 head
 
3:35 PM
I set up a minecraft server two weeks ago. Unfortunately there isn't any good documenation or requirements so I have no idea how well this will scale in a longterm manner.
All technical about minecraft is a huge questionmark. So I think I just have to see how thinks work out.
 
It requires a lot of RAM to behave well with multiple players, especially if they're of the exploring type. You need at least 1GB just to run the server.
I've been able to host 3-4 simultaneous users on an EC2 m1.small, but that was pushing the limits. Recent versions have made the multiplayer more resource-intensive and less performant in my experience.
 
I'm running my MC server in a VM at home (2 x vCPU 2GB) and it supports 8 users very easily
 
I'm currently running a server with currently 4 users. 3 cCPUs à 1422Mhz and 6GB of RAM. Currently Minecraft can only use 2 GB of RAM due to 32bit.
 
I spotted that too, hence the 2GB VM
 
I think the problem isn't minecraft but the JVM right?
 
3:47 PM
possibly - but it's not very efficient on mac or linux too
 
Java? Slow? Huh?
 
Do you remember the times when a consultant walked in and started talking about Java. You just asked: What about performance? And he left without any further word.
 
Yours left? I was told performance hits were negligible. As were interface quirks. Write once, run anywhere!
 
oh it's not bad these days, one of my platforms is 100% java and supports 600k live customers - fricking LOADS of servers but it works
 
Yeah, I'm not advocating it's running now. But since the starting days performance evolved pretty good.
 
4:03 PM
yeah, isn't the OSX still supposed to be the quickest JVM or has that changed?
 
Was "shucks" ever just a basic utterance? To me it's a nice way of saying "sh@%, f@%!!" all in one.
 
4:40 PM
Please excuse my spam :-)
2
Q: IIS 7.5, Encryption Keys, and HRESULT: 0x80090005

Kyle BrandtWhen trying to assign a domain account to an IIS 7.5 app pool I get the following error: Details: Bad Data. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80090005) My research shows that this can happen when you copy an applicationhost.config file without importing the keys. The suggested resolutions I have seen...

 
gah! IIS! ::hides::
 
@Chopper3 OSX JVM? Isn't it 10 revisions behind or something, because Apple just don't care about it?
(And until recently wouldn't allow Sun/Oracle to release their own?)
 
erm...dunno
 
Thought Apple was creating their own JVM to replace Oracle's?
 
java version "1.5.0_26" (OS X 10.5.8)
 
4:55 PM
ah, yes then
 
Apple hates us
 
java -version
java version "1.6.0_22"
OS X 10.6.6
What's the latest version supposed to be now?
 
slightly more reasonable (I don't have any snowy leopards in the office at the moment -- we're holding out for Lion
6u23
 
actually mine's the same as Barts
ah, well pretty up to date then - good old apple :)
 
13,337
questions with no upvoted answers
how long will that last? :P
 
5:00 PM
@#% active directory...
/grumble
I'm trying the tools listed in the answer to my question...trying to make heads or tails of it.
He said it works in XP/win7...so I have it installed in Win7 on a vm. Now trying to get it to work...
Gave an error, so I downloaded the manual. I know, out of character to do that.
Guess what I forgot to install on the VM? Anyone?
 
Service Packs 1 through 47583? :)
 
If you guessed a PDF reader, you get a free DING DING DING sound effect!
Are you kidding? Of course I got all the patches installed. That was day two of installation.
 
ohhh right, Windows doesn't come with one of those does it?
::spoiled Mac user::
 
My workstation is Linux running Win7 in a VM with my personal Mac running next to it.
 
@voretaq7 you still use Preview? Chrome's PDF viewer ftw. :P
The whole Mac thing annoys me. Why can't someone else make a decent aluminium unibody laptop with a non-crazy keyboard, so that I can run a real OS?
 
5:05 PM
Crap. Does Win7 come with Powershell?
Oh, yeah, the alternatives are SO much better.
 
Alas, the hardware is so much better than everything else out there, so I have to put up with weirdness like §
 
@BartSilverstrim Yes it does, yes it does.
 
@BartSilverstrim I thought it did?
 
That's what I thought.
 
@MuraliSuriar Preiew and Safari are "adequate" at the moment :)
 
5:06 PM
The administrator's guide for the quest tools isn't very...readable.
 
I'm so tempted to get a Macbook Air 11"
 
It's a CHM file that opened up but keeps telling me that I need to re-type the address.
 
It's like a netbook with a full sized keyboard and a nice form factor.
must... resist...
 
@MuraliSuriar let me help you resist: NO ETHERNET JACK!
 
Mneh.
 
5:08 PM
I suspect I need to tell the environment where or how to find a DC to query...just need to figure out the right incantation.
 
(seriously, it's thick enough. Why no ethernet jack Steve? Why?)
 
Not so concerned about that.
 
@MuraliSuriar only bugs me because I like to plug in to the gigabit connections when they're available.
 
True.
 
Also I'm waiting for displays in the multi-touch trackpads
 
5:09 PM
Holy crap. There was a typo in the answer.
 
That said, non-draft N is pretty fast at this point.
 
It's...it's DOING SOMETHING
 
@BartSilverstrim "Deleting all your files. Please wait."
 
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.
 
"Stop crying"
 
5:10 PM
@voretaq7 That's another thing that annoys me. Apple discontinued the fingerworks line after they bought the company for the patents.
Now they just release cool stuff in dribs and drabs.
 
It's like the VGer probe on the Enterprise going through the library computer before Spock smashed the keys.
 
"Cease beating on the keyboard, I trashed all the important stuff firest"
"Doesn't the hard drive sound like laughter?"
etc...
 
Almost literally...I'm seeing the contents of AD flashing on the screen, each user in the database...
 
A lot of my friends liked fingerworks, but honestly I don't like the idea of a touch-panel keyboard. I'm still a Model M kinda guy.
I DO like the gesture-based controls tho - I wish they'd release a decent SDK like fingerworks had.
 
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5:12 PM
haha - bad timing feed for bart
 
Yeah, I thought there was irony there.
:-/
Still processing.
It's kind of exciting...will I have an active directory database when it's done? Or will he be screaming and running away, pretending he knows nothing when questioned?
SF needs achievements for things like this. "OP follows advice that takes a long time to process and is trying to resist urge to wet himself in case he's destroying his infrastructure: Unlocked!"
And...it stopped.
Nothing.
Bloody @#%#! This isn't my day.
 
0
Q: Why use multiple partitions on a rhel server?

JakobudI'm about to reformat and reinstall CentOS onto an old server. The server runs on a modest 30 node small business network and has a variety of responsibilities including MySQL, a Samba share, DHCPd & SVN/Trac. The old sysadmin had this server setup with almost a dozen different partitions fo...

why is a nearly 500-rep user asking this of all things?
 
5:29 PM
Not his level of expertise?
Area?
I'm asking questions about @#% LDAP/scripting at this point...when admins find out how horrible I am with scripting they laugh and call me names. They won't even let me play in any admin games :-(
Or maybe he's thinking there's no reason for the partitions but wonders what the other admin knew that he didn't.
In that case he's smart to risk looking stupid :-)
 
but you know how to use google right?
 
Google? Is that some kind of adult toy?
 
in a way yes
 
I'm watching a tool I'm unfamiliar with walk through my active directory structure and it makes me nervous. Don't judge me!
Wait, what? Google? Oh. Where am I?
 
::grumbles:: Stupid printer with its stupid shadow on the stupid printouts....
would it be wrong to shackle a Canon service technician to our printer?
 
5:37 PM
Depends on whether you feed him.
 
@BartSilverstrim If he solves the "toner shadow on the first 25 pages of the day" problem so I don't have to hear about it anymore I'll give him a steak!
this printer is absolutely fantastic... except for that.
 
I feel like there's a good "exact duplicate" of this one: serverfault.com/questions/231265/… If not, I think we do need a good canonical OS-neutral "Understanding what makes a good backup" kind of question.
 
This question was the equivalent to a girl showing on a forum, everyone wanted a piece.
http://serverfault.com/questions/231161/what-is-this-thing-called
 
@EvanAnderson: If you have any input on that question I posted a little ways up, I would be quite grateful :-)
 
HA HA! Liberator...
 
5:51 PM
@KyleBrandt: I just got back there in the transcript. I'll have a look and see if I can give you some ideas.
 
@DanBig threw in my $0.005 for "pigtail" :-)
@EvanAnderson problem is while good backup techniques aren't OS-dependent they're often environment dependent (stuff like when do I do my full backups, do I use a straight rotation scheme or a funky tower-of-hanoi style scheme that saves tapes, etc.)
 
@voretaq7, oh, i threw in mine as well
 
@voretaq7: I'm gonna take a quick stab at it to give you a feel for what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking very basic stuff...
 
Not sure if that "WTF is this power cord called" post should be community wiki or not
@EvanAnderson Probably the same things we all say whenever we get backup questions :-)
 
6:14 PM
Any guesses at what language this is?
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Q: ubuntu 10.4 FTP,Mysql und webserver löschen

chrishallo, wuerde gern obengenannte dienste von einem frischen ubuntu server deinstallieren um ispconfig 3 darauf zu installieren! nun benoetige ich bitte die kompletten befehle dazu da ich mit löschen von daten und paketen keine ahnung habe LG Chris

 
looks like german...
 
german
hello, would like the above services from a fresh ubuntu server uninstall ispconfig 3 to install!

now I need your command to complete because I have to delete data-packages and no idea LG Chris
 
Google translation @DanBig? :)
 
yep
 
was gonna be my next stop
 
6:18 PM
i like the "autodetect" for the source language
 
it's usually pretty good these days. there was a while where it had trouble but it's much better now.
 
6:53 PM
Does anyone know the command on an pix to find the stats on nat/pat usage?
 
#show xlate
 
@l0c0b0x: What stats are you looking for? "show nat" and "show xlate" will both show you info.
 
#show xlate count
 
"show xlate detail" >smile<
 
"show nat" work in PIX?
 
7:02 PM
Ohhh... dunno about earlier versions than 7.
 
"show ip nat" work in IOS
 
He is working on processing a request for more IPv4 address space. They already have quite a bit, and we want some data from them showing that they actually need more address space.
 
I don't spam, but someone banned me in chat... why?
 
You seem to be speaking now, when where you banned?
There is some automatic rate-limit that can be annoying at times, is that what you are talking about?
 
i speaking in this chat
someone delete my message and banned me
i ask question about work
 
7:09 PM
Hrm. You may need to ask one of our moderators. I don't know anything.
 
@alvosu Ping one of the "diamond moderators" in this chat, or post a question in Meta.
@KyleBrandt @sysadmin1138 @Zypher - Any of you guys know what happened with @alvosu ?
 
@alvosu when where you banned?
 
@Zypher Tuesday
 
@alvosu hmm not seeing anything in particular but the mod tools arn't as good on chat as they are on the main site ... lemmie talk to the devs
 
@Zypher Haven't had a chance to look at them before now. You're not kidding about "not as good".
 
7:24 PM
So did we ever come up with a one-true mod_rewrite question?
 
I think Kyle did
 
I did but it didn't really work out that well
 
28
Q: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about Mod_Rewrite Rules but Were Afraid to Ask?

Kyle BrandtHow can I become an expert at writing mod_rewrite rules? What is the fundamental format and structure of mod_rewrite rules? What form/flavor of regular expressions do I need to have a solid grasp of? What are the most common mistakes/pitfalls when writing rewrite rules? What is a good method fo...

 
It needs to be broken into maybe 6 sub questions
It is just too much of a wall of text
What would be ideal is a subset of that , all of which are in a conical format
Then add those to the tag wiki and close as dupe when we can
 
@alvosu i asked the devs - but they are in europe so it might be a bit but i'll get back to you with as much info as i can scrounge together
 
7:26 PM
It turned out to be too much of RTFM answer
 
@KyleBrandt Yeah. We need one for each of the edge cases, and that gets hard to track. Like rewriting/prettyfying PHP, or handling '?' parameters silently.
 
I know we frown on RTFM on this site and I agree with that in general, but you know what, sometimes the answer really is: "It looks complex because it IS complex. You need to reed the following manuals"
 
@RobertMoir: Well it is about balance, this one is a little off balance I think
 
@sysadmin1138 closest thing we have is the tag/faq route ordered by links ... i.e. serverfault.com/tags/mod-rewrite/faq
 
Well its your fault so I won't argue
I just voted to close as offtopic when I meant duplicate :-(
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Q: Corporate IT have blocked putty

Alan WhitelawBefore I ask my question I would like to point out I am a web developer who normally uses Stack Overflow and new to Sever Fault, I think this is best place for this question. I have recently started a new job, and among other things my IT department are reluctant to allow Putty access to the int...

This is why it would be nice to rescind votes to close
 
7:33 PM
@RobertMoir If it's any comfort, you can always vote to reopen if it does get closed.
 
@RobertMoir it's ok, it's majority rule on the close reason ... except the mod hammer
 
true that
 
@RobertMoir, they could be blocking the putty application if they where extremely locking things down with group policies.
 
GAAAAH!!!!! What's a non-snotty way of saying "I used to work with the Exchange team at Microsoft, I know what was and was not in their release schedules for Exchange 2007 and 2010"
@Zoredache - that's true, hadn't thought of that. It would be a crazy way of doing things, but then some people are crazy
 
@Zoredache Weird. By now I'm pretty sure there are Java-SSH clients for browsers somewhere out there. Time to look...
 
7:45 PM
But a company that paranoid would probably also be blocking java, and every not-white-listed application.
 
i like Putty. It's saved my skin so many times
 
Hello
@RobertMoir Putty is nice
 
Putty is also the best console app I've found for Windows since they dumped HyperTerm
 
@packs One of our server admins told me we're getting a new app soon that is better than Putty and TSCMMC put together. Sounds like it's a commercial product, but I can't wait to see it.
 
You mention HyperTerm, and Putty in the same breath?!
 
7:57 PM
@Zoredache Did I break some Microsoft taboo?
 
Eh, no you have severely downplayed Putty. I mean there is Putty which is the one-true tool, and there is hyperterm which insane people use. :p
 
I'm only comparing them as it relates to terminal emulators.
Please do not misunderstand my intentions :)
 
Shun the unbeliever. Shun!
 
@packs Perhaps he'd be more enthused if you'd said it was the "best... since they introduced HyperTerm" instead of "since they dumped..."
 
^^ arse whoopin
 
8:07 PM
@Zypher those suck, want to ship me those drives now?
 
@Iszi Meh, I'm only an accidental Windows user on my laptop anyway.
 
hmm just noticed an error in my key
 
@Zypher: Those are some pretty flat lines. Yeah-- what's w/ the green and red being the same?
(Lime and maroon...)
 
the RED line is the X25-E's
typo on my part
 
That makes sense. The green is your 10K SAS disks, then?
 
8:10 PM
yep
 
The X25-E's do, indeed, appear to be kicking ass.
What's the random / sequential distribution on those writes?
They look fairly sequential.
 
they are all random
 
Zow. They really are kicking ass, then. I'm surprised the 10K SAS are working that well at 100% random, too.
What's the write request size?
 
how much were those drives again? :-)
 
~5k for 6
@EvanAnderson 64k block size, using a 20GB SQLIO test file
 
8:13 PM
mmmmm... but what would I use them for ? ::ponder::
 
What's the scale on the right of the graph? The left looks like MB/sec.
 
Left is MB/s Right is Outstanding requests
 
Oh, duh...
 
I should label that :)
 
I should've looked at the key and said "What's missing?"
 
8:16 PM
haha .. true trying to not channel the bofh today :)
 
Ugh... time to do "real work". See ya'll later...
 
@EvanAnderson Hate when that happens. Three-day weekends are nice.
 
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Q: Is is possible to create a data collection set Performance Monitor, win7 that collects bandwidth used per process?

user67052Resource monitor shows bandwidth used per process however I've not found a way to accomplish this with the Performance Monitoron Win7 Is this possible, to gather bandwidth used per process from within the native MSFT tool, performance monitor? If so then how? 2 days of internet searches have o...

Now windows users are asking :-)
 
8:39 PM
@voretaq7 Wow... didn't take long for my flag to work, there. Thanks @diamond-mods.
 
@Iszi meh I'm more harping on the "I want to monitor how much bandwidth program X is using" questions... extra credit for "And I don't want to restart program X"
 
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