@AdrianK I don't consider the latter a virtue myself. On our field units I tolerate it as a necessary evil (because I'm not rolling my own FreeBSD desktops)
MS irritates me more because the software is bad quality AND fixes take forever. At least when I get stuck with shit free/open-source software fixes are fast, and if they're not I can do it my damn self.
@growse "Oh it's easy you just pipe the alert through a shell script that doesn't emit it if it's between certain hours" -- Nagios style solution right there.
@AdrianK Windows 8 is making me concerned, honestly. Not looking forward to client deployments of that if it stays on its current track. I'm sure its guts are nice, but the paint job blows.
@voretaq7 Yusss. PowerShell is a welcome change. I'm looking forward to more and more Windows Core deployments to the point where there will never be a Windows server with a GUI installed on my watch.
re: W8, the change of APIs has absolutely KILLED Windows as a custom platform for most if not all corporates - they've literally thrown away any uniqueness
Here's a question: Would anyone use a service that forwarded nagios / cacti data to a central (cloud-based Wooo!!) service that consolidated everything together?
@growse there are a bunch of services like that floating around in cloudspace actually. Me personally I like keeping my monitoring data totally in-house/
I really do not consider any Linux distribution to be "production quality" for servers. RHEL is the closest, and I don't like that they force you to use their tools...
@JourneymanGeek That mean's I have to spend 3 months testing them out though and another 6 ironing out all the growing pains as I move up to larger and larger deployments. not happy about that bit.
granted, i never ran gnome cause it felt too maclike (and i mean OS 9/8) for my liking, and they haven't futzed around too much with kde... so i wasn't very affected by the move to unity
@JourneymanGeek True. We even talked about moving to Win7 awhile back. Decided that it wouldn't be worth the hassle of simply moving bottlenecks and problems off the desktop and into the infrastructure.
I would happily run any operating system that met the two primary criteria: 1) Software that supports our business runs on it 2) It does not require an inordinate amount of time/money to maintain
There's a guy I know who's trying to convince the powers that be that we need to through out TPM for package and configuration management and move to puppet instead
I love the "action" command /me found elsewhere, and think it would be fun to have in the chat. A message like:
/me loves the new chat system
Would show up as:
Josh loves the new chat system
Rather than:
Josh: loves the new chat system
I'm trying to think how it would work with ...
@SimonSheehan: at one point i was running openbox + cairodock. I'm mentioning those two cause they're official varients, and vaguely like windows XP (LXDE) and gnome (xfce)
@voretaq7 My cat is disciplined by canned air. Just one hint of the hiss and he stops trying to eat the Christmas tree. He's only vomited up a bundle of pine needles once this year!
or well, just one story really. When you install a new server and you want to take backups of it, the company NEVER gives you installation instructions or a software download link (they refuse it). They insist on you firing up teamviewer on the server, and then a 1st level tech just sets up the backup without even asking you what you want to create backups of (or how often you want it done)
the punchline is this @AdrianK - make sure you get a account manager who actually asks about your needs and helps to create a backup plan/project/tasklist
My favorite is when the PeopleTrak tech insisted that we needed to punch a hole in our firewall for Rdesktop so that they could log into our 2k8 WTS farm to do their install.
and demand documentation/installation instructions so that you dont have to call them every single time you need a change done or a new server installed
@AdrianK Yeah, stuff like that is something that should blink a red light inside your head and a voice telling you "walk away... walk away..."
@pauska thanks. I just wish the IT dept. had software purchasing authority. We usually only hear about this stuff after they've bought it and are now expecting us to conjure up a server to run it from.
Our provider recently hired a key account manager, but its too late for them regarding our contract. He tried to offer me a local backup server for free (as a staging server) but I refused
@jscott @voretaq7: Yep, I have so many rams as I'm building 72 servers. Or rather, the other chumps in the office are as I'm on vacation as of today! Yay!
@JourneymanGeek well, perhaps I am being condescending, but if he doesn't know the difference between a cd and dvd drive, I kinda doubt he will be able to handle a pxe boot or something else more advanced.
Facebook, someone is asking if they know someone who can fix her computer on the cheap because it's infected with something and "loosing my programs one by one." Someone responded that they built and torn down computers for 10 years and was a programmer, and could fix it for free. First they'd try defragging it then take it down to factory (settings?) and that fixes just about everything. O_o
Defragmenting at most may speed up some access. I use it to exercise the drive when seeing if there's any problems as a poor man's burn-in test. And it looks impressive. Well, that, and Deep Freeze screws around with arranging files around like crazy over time. But why in hell do so many people think that a defrag "fixes" problems?
Here, let me light your file cabinet on fire while you get it arranged in alphabetical order. Let me know if that works out for you.
I'm not sure what my system's fragmentation level is since OS X doesn't have it built in. But I do know that it will automatically defragment files <20 meg in size.
Doesn't Windows 7 allegedly defrag in the background?
I remember the good old days of Windows 95 defragger, with those billion tiny little blocks and as soon as there was a single disk access outside of defrag, back to the beginning it went
And I also remember the satisfaction of loading defrag in XP and seeing an almost entirely red bar, and watching it turn blue as the hours dragged on
Well to be fair, if the computer is off, neither of them will be triggered
Its a bit how someone argued with me once that TCP is not a reliable protocol because if he unplugged the network cable halfway through a transmission the packets would never get to me
Auto would happen as they're using it, though. Scheduled means we get complaints because every day the computer slows down at a particular time, so something must be wrong :-p
You had someone argue that?
Did you tell him that breathing is unreliable as you stuffed his socks into his mouth and covered his nose and mouth with duct tape?
@BartSilverstrim Haha no but that's a good one. When people go down that road I quit
@JourneymanGeek I guess it could release a storm of nanobots to create a conductive link between the source and destination device in the event that the link is severed, or sends out just enough nanobots to generate enough torque to push the power button on the machine
I love the "action" command /me found elsewhere, and think it would be fun to have in the chat. A message like:
/me loves the new chat system
Would show up as:
Josh loves the new chat system
Rather than:
Josh: loves the new chat system
I'm trying to think how it would work with ...
