The Ink Spot

Ryan

1:19 AM

@WELZ definitely! and thanks

@WELZ I'd like it if you, and everyone really would answer my meta question instead or in addition to vincents

WELZ

@Ryan thanks for reminding, I'll work on a draft, and hopefully post tomorrow.

BESW

11:52 AM

Staff pick: Distilleren, a book about the last Amsterdam distillery @deooievaar, designed by @JelleFPost with Kurversbrug, Krul (@ReTypeFoundry) & Vista Sans (Emigre) https://fontsinuse.com/uses/20313/distilleren-de-kunst-van-het-ruiken-1

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Vincent

1:44 PM

@Pie Thanks for a great addition to the discussion

PieBie

@Vincent thumbs up

Vincent

I did indeed upvote it :)

WELZ

@Vincent I stand behind you in-case this goes in front of a jury. Lol

Vincent

@WELZ thanks. It's been a while since I've been shivering with anger like I am now

PieBie

I really mean it when I say I'm glad I see so many participating. It seems a lot of people still care for this community. Hopefully some kind of consensus can be reached

Vincent

1:47 PM

@PieBie Yeah, I'm happy meta is so abuzz for once :)

WELZ

@PieBie That would be nice, but it almost seems political... and we know how that always ends

PieBie

@Vincent good thing you inviting those users to the discussion, it seems like they really had something to bring to the table :)

Vincent

@BESW Nice stuff! And My native language :)

PieBie

@WELZ I think the water might be less deep than you suspect

WELZ

I know scott has a strong opinion on this, would be nice if he posted something.

Vincent

1:49 PM

@WELZ I asked him

WELZ

and I assume he declined

Vincent

he did

Hey Scott. Can I draw your attention to this discussion on meta? We are trying to decrease the amount of lazy 'tutorial-on-demand' questions on the site, and one of the early signs is that answering them isn't a good idea. I'd appreciate your input on the matter. Thanks! — Vincent ♦ Feb 16 at 10:21

respectfully so.

no underhanded communication please @WELZ

WELZ

alright

Vincent

Okay. Now to take half an hour of time to become calm again and resume regular work

WELZ

Does your coffee machine work now?

JohnB

2:00 PM

morning all!

Vincent

fortunately, It's been repaired

hey @JohnB

you also lots of thanks for a well-deliberated answer to my Q

JohnB

happy to weigh in! Lots of great answers on both sides of the coin

have we talked about Codenames before, @Vincent?

Vincent

@JohnB possibly? Did I recommend it to you, perchance?

JohnB

possibly :D my friends like it a lot, it's overtaken Catan as the casual party game

Vincent

@JohnB cool! words or pictures?

JohnB

2:08 PM

but Catan isn't a great party game because it gets vicious

words

Vincent

haha yeah and it takes quite long. Codenames is half an hour or so

JohnB

I crushed it in Codenames on Saturday

Vincent

I am a huge fan of pictures myself

JohnB

3-0 with two brand new players on my team

Vincent

but words is also very cool

haha! Did you do an 'Atlantis 7' trick?

JohnB

2:09 PM

no, what's that trick?

Vincent

the first time I saw Codenames played, the red team was 6-1 behind, and they were the team needing 8

so the red codemaster took a long time thinking, and went for it: 'Atlantis 7'.

They won.

JohnB

o.o

just luck?

or were the words actually somehow related to Atlantis

Vincent

some, but the description fit all of the pictures

it was pictures

JohnB

amazing!

Vincent

yeah

JohnB

2:11 PM

I didn't even know there was a pictures version

Vincent

boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/198773/codenames-pictures

JohnB

awesome, I might have to pick that up

Vincent

the images always have at least two distinct aspects

and the grid is 4 x 5 instead of 5 x 5

JohnB

ah

added it to my wishlist :)

Vincent

hehe

JohnB

2:19 PM

I just saw the Codenames Duet version too

Vincent

yeah that's a 2-player co-op

asymmetrical co-op

JohnB

also highly rated on BGG

Vincent

haven't played it yet

but I hear good things indeed

JohnB

I might pick that up first actually

I love co-op games

WELZ

I love codenamse and Catan!

JohnB

2:23 PM

oh yeah? You lookin to settle?

>:)

WELZ

We can all play catan one day

let's schedule an event

Vincent

@WELZ I'm a bit far away :)

WELZ

online

Vincent

@johnp You're alive! :D

@WELZ oooh

:P

WELZ

heya @johnp

since the last time we spoke... I have double your rep xD

Vincent

2:27 PM

@johnp He doesn't mean that in a bad way :>

LateralTerminal

@Vincent @JohnB @WELZ what do you think about this possible solution to the TOD questions? graphicdesign.meta.stackexchange.com/a/3385/104169

WELZ

definitely not, just teasing you... what happens when you go inactive and silent :o

Vincent

@LateralTerminal thanks for chipping in! adding a comment as we chat :)

WELZ

@LateralTerminal interesting, but that page would be miles long, since there's always new stuff (because of art trends etc.)

LateralTerminal

@WELZ I don't think it would be easy at all at first.

WELZ

2:31 PM

There's always going to be ~~one~~ a bunch that's not in there

Vincent

@WELZ it's never going to be complete. just like life. But we can try anyway

in both cases

WELZ

My question is, how often do you think we're going to get one and be able to refer them to there.

I think it'd be a great database, but not for what we need.

LateralTerminal

@WELZ I remember when I frequented XDA forums for Android modding there was what they called a "Mega thread" because new users would spam the forums asking "how do I do x" The mega thread covered almost every basic question you'd need carefully organized and categorized.

This frees up the forum for more "on topic" questions

In my experience these do work. It will NOT be easy and probably not fun either (unless you find that kind of compiling fun) but I do believe it works.

Vincent

I think it a valuable observation that it actually seems to work

WELZ

Would it be one Community wiki post with each answer posted: "Common question abc - answer" or each and every one will be community wiki post tagged canonical

JohnB

2:39 PM

I like the idea. Is there a precedent on any other SE site that we could get inspiration from?

WELZ

We've only really made canonical when there's been a bunch of the same exact (or very similar) issue.

Vincent

I remember that tag being created and being burninated pretty quickly afterward

WELZ

we have 2 questions tagged canonical

Vincent

ah

7

Q: How should we handle canonical Q&As?

As of a week ago, we have a canonical tag. The Q&As in that tag (now two) are intended serve as an instrument for closing as duplicate any questions (usually about basic knowledge) that get asked repeatedly. It’s a great tool for finding the right question to dupe with, a problem that keeps on h...

WELZ

one is wiki, one isn't (not sure why)

Vincent

2:57 PM

@WELZ imho canonicals should always be wikis

WELZ

that's what I though

Alright new meta post: Should canonical questions be wiki?

Vincent

@WELZ halt

Don't overflow meta

each of those topics deserves its due in the spotlight

so yes, if that is a discussion you'd like to spearhead, by all means post a meta question about it in a week or two

does that sound logical?

WELZ

@Vincent I'm not going to remember, but definitely!

Vincent

@WELZ I will remind you :)

LateralTerminal

3:40 PM

@Vincent If "canonical" is taboo, I liked Scotts "general-information" tag proposal,
If we are just trying to put a label on everything to put it in one place.

WELZ

8:27 PM

@Ryan here's my ~~2 cents~~ rant ;)

I'd just like to say, it is very poorly written. (and may be a bit hard to understand) and that's because I just started typing whatever I was thinking without focusing on weather it made sense to others or not.

johnp

@Vincent @WELZ haha well done!

I'm very much alive, just logged in and out earlier on break so had no time to chat

johnp

9:02 PM

Came across this on my travels, thought it looked fun indiegogo.com/projects/…

LateralTerminal

@WELZ I agree with some of your points. I'd like to point out that the tour isn't especially helpful to new users. I think the tour should be required before posting and the tour should mention something about the minimum amount of effort required. Maybe in really big bold text so it's not something you miss. Just check out the tour and tell me it's helpful because it's not. Pretend for a minute you've never been to a site like this and try to absorb this info.

graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/tour

WELZ

@LateralTerminal Totally!

Post that on Vincent's post

Vincent

9:26 PM

@LateralTerminal +100 this so much

LateralTerminal

I'm posting it now as possible soultion #2

@Vincent @WELZ

@JohnB Too why not

johnp

nothing's changed with the good ol' how do i do dah? questions then

LateralTerminal

0

A: What to do with tutorial requests? -- part II

Possible Solution (#2) Again speaking as a new user as of 5 months from this post. The tour: Is not helpful. Should be reformatted to be helpful to new users. Should explain what is on topic and what is not on topic. Should have a section in large bold obvious letters stating *the required am...

WELZ

@johnp nope, nada

@LateralTerminal Lol

LateralTerminal

I think a good solution is a combo of solutions 1&2 to cover all our grounds.

The tour definitely needs work though

The tour only makes sense if you're already in the community

johnp

9:31 PM

I read the "sending questions to the trashcan by default" answer as satire ;D

2

WELZ

@johnp This is great!

johnp

Playing devil's advocate Remember that whole Charcoal HQ thingy for deleting spam? using machine learning?

imagine using something like that to destroy all s**t questions >:)

bit of overkill but myeah

WELZ

@johnp There's no machine learning (yet)

johnp

"when will they ever learn!"

WELZ

I've actually been an active member of Charcoal for the last few months.

Vincent

10:04 PM

@LateralTerminal Thanks for your thoughts. Upvoted.

LateralTerminal

@Vincent Thanks. I hope it helps to community in some way.

The following post is just for @WELZ

in response to new users aren't allowed to post images

It doesn't seem that way

WELZ

10:29 PM

@LateralTerminal I'm not sure, I had once seen it while trying some experiment

You may have to hit post. o.o

26

A: New users and attaching images

We examined this issue and decided that on most sites, the restriction is doing more harm than good. The restriction has therefore simply been removed on all sites except Stack Overflow, Server Fault, Ask Ubuntu and Super User. We may revisit this list if we notice, or the moderators inform us of...

I must've seen it maybe on SO or something.

here we go

I think it happened on my first post on SU

BESW

11:57 PM

Angharad Hengyu Owen's wandering typographic lyricism. http://dogroup.co/2BDDB5Z

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