@TomMcW I don't believe they're more common per se, although that particular failure mode is rather weird...

@Shalvenay: I don't know what equipment that 150 had... but most new Garmin Transducers automatically switch from Standby to Alt. when the plane takes off. The drawback, is that they aren't squawking on the ground, so TCAS planes can't see them.

@abelenky yeah, not sure how they'd define that in a fixed-gear bird though

@abelenky also, that'd be a problem in big airports that have ASDE-X systems (you'll note that the A/FD notes for those large airports will ask you to squawk while on the ground)

yeah

@Shalvenay Maybe they're just being reported more often, but in the last two or three years it seems like there's been a steady stream of parts flying out of engines on all types of planes.

@abelenky Have you ever seen signs on the runway saying "Traffic Cannot Be Seen, Monitor Unicom"? Sounds like there's been near misses there before. If you can't see the traffic and they don't announce themselves how are you supposed to avoid them?

still need an opinion ^

@Federico There are 18 edits and the answer has expanded considerably but readability hasn't improved.

I want to be sympathetic but there needs to be improvement too.

@Farhan I agree. I could add a few breaklines, but I am not in a position to evaluate the content.

I agree with Farhan, even with formatting it's like a stream of consciousness and it's hard to follow how it answers the question.

@abelenky I didn't say "improved". I am willing to un-delete the post and let the user improve his post, but it does not look like he has intention to do that.

sounds like nobody is in favour of undeleting then

Nah, if he really wants to write something, he should start over with a new answer. But its up to him.

at the very least he'll need to reformat that wall of text and have some coherent text

thank you everyone :)

@tommcw: I've never personally seen one of those signs, even at airport where I knew I couldn't see the departing traffic (thankfully, we were both quite chatty on the radio and well coordinated).

My big question is: CTAF is typically, legally not required. Does that sign make it required? If the jet didn't announce are they now at fault?

@abelenky Might be one of those situations where the Citation will be at fault even though technically violate anything. They prob won't give him a violation, but I'll betcha insurance and civil court will still hold him liable. There was no reason he couldn't have announced. Even though it's not legally required (because some old vintage planes don't have radios) it's still standard practice.

It does seem like it should be required at any airport with a ctaf or Unicom. Or at least an "if possible" wording like you said. Landing a turbofan at an airport with crossing runways without announcing is suicide. Really dumb. We'll have to wait for the final report to see if the prop pilot announced. They said one of the witnesses was listening on Unicom, so it sounds like that's probable

@kevin psa: please edit items in the low quality queue only if you think you are significantly improving them, since the edit takes them away from the queue. otherwise, simply open the post in a seprate tab and not from the queue end edit from there. This post got removed from the queue, but sincerely I am not too sure what to do with this now: aviation.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/7446

hey there @TomMcW