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Federico

08:08

can someone help me in determining in which SE site to post my question?
as a user of FB, is it possible and if yes, how (FF extensions, GM scripts) to avoid geo-ip redirection from pages?
There are certain product pages (e.g.: film, videogames) that basing on your ip automatically redirect you to the locale of where you are living. This forces me to see only pages in German, when I want the English ones.

ratchet freak

using a proxy would be my first guess

some of those use dns to push you to a local server rather than go transatlantic

Federico

for me would be the last resort, but I would like to ask the question, and I do not know if there is a specific SE or I should go on SO

ratchet freak

superuser seems the best bet, might want to ask in the chat there first though

Federico

will do, thanks

falstro

@Federico You could also try to set the X-Forwarded-For http-header, that works for circumventing the geo-ip block on comedy central

Federico

08:25

@falstro I use this extension github.com/marson/XForwardedForHeader but nope, on fb I still get redirected

falstro

12:02

@Federico and you're sure it's not just that you have accept-language set (or not set to english, thus prompting geo-ip fallback or something)?

Federico

12:29

@falstro I am not sure I know that option, care to expand? thanks

ratchet freak

12:43

@Federico tools->options->content->languages->choose

Federico

@ratchetfreak I have english as first language. German is not present.

falstro

13:00

@Federico I hate it when sites don't look at accept-language when determining what localization to use

I mean if it's not set, sure, use geo-ip

Federico

@falstro I am afraid that it is a "fb page owner" related issue, i.e. that producers want to show people stuff in their "supposed" language to "enhance the user experience" (read "nation-differentiated marketing")

ratchet freak

completely ignoring power users that don't want to read in German but want it all in english

falstro

@ratchetfreak the thing is, if you download a german-localized browser, it will come with a default setting of accept-language german, so it's really a broken solution to a non-problem

Federico

I now wonder if it is only for Germany or also for other non-english-friendly countries (read Italy, France and Spain, for example). If it only for DE, I fear it might be for legal/marketing reasons (everything arrives here in "low violence" version. Doom got un-banned after 17 years from the release)

ratchet freak

in belgium (though my geo-IP may be Dutch) I see facebook log in page in english corresponding to my language settings

Federico

13:12

here: http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/60398/avoid-ip-based-redirect-and-news-feed
more details.
What happens if you try to visit the first link?

ratchet freak

I get the english version...

but that may be that there is no BE or NL version

Federico

yeah, I would say that the NL is quite english-friendly (my discriminant is wether they dub movies or not)

ratchet freak

the only thing I see dubbed in belgium are on Dutch centered TV stations

or anime in prime time

though that is mostly on the children's channels

Federico

13:32

yeah, I lived in NL for two years, I remember

ratchet freak

but if you turn to a french post then you will be guaranteed to hear french

they dub everything

even news interviews

falstro

@Federico I get the german version. what a bunch of morons. might be related to licensing though, who knows.

routing through a swedish proxy I get the english one

so yeah, it's probably geo-ip

ratchet freak

13:49

overriding only for DE

or is that the only localized language

Federico

@falstro thanks.

@ratchetfreak would be interesting to know, see my comment above

Stack Exchange

17:19

This Day in Aviation: 4–7 May 1936

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Farhan

17:29

Is there a way to link a PDF in an answer?

not from Internet, but from hard drive

falstro

@Farhan dropbox?

flyingfisch

18:05

@Farhan what falstro said... dropbox, google drive, whatever

Lnafziger

@Farhan Yeah, or Google Docs.

@Farhan Or, copy & paste the relevant section, or take a screen shot, etc.

flyingfisch

any linux users here?

Lnafziger

18:20

@flyingfisch It's been a long time, but yes?

flyingfisch

18:58

@Lnafziger ah ok, just curious. ;)

i use ubuntu

been using linux exclusively for a few years now

Bret Copeland

At work I develop out of a Kubuntu virtual box hosted on Windows.

I like KDE way better than gnome or unity.

But I like Windows as a general desktop better than Linux or OSX

flyingfisch

you like KDE? I really like unity

can't stand windows for several reasons

Bret Copeland

I just like the way things are laid out in KDE

I don't like Unity at all.

flyingfisch

i never really got used to KDE

and i like free apps, most of which run with GTK, which just makes linux the better choice

that last part was explaining why i like *nix, not why i don't like KDE

KDE is heavy

voretaq7

@BretCopeland . . . I didn't realize you were a heathen

Bret Copeland

19:15

@voretaq7 there is almost nothing about Apple I like. Linux is fine for development and servers, but as a desktop it lacks a lot of maturity. For example, Windows sees my four monitors and is like, "sure, we got this." Linux sees my four monitors and is like, "oh shit, you're on your own, son."

voretaq7

@BretCopeland I would never recommend Linux as a desktop - or server for that matter. I don't feel any Linux distro is a production-quality operating system.

flyingfisch

@BretCopeland I have only one monitor, so don't know for sure, but with the newer versions of Ubuntu I think multi monitor support is fine

voretaq7

Windows is just a pain in the ass to administer/update - OS X sucks too, but the suck is tangential to my use case :)

@flyingfisch It's substantially better than it used to be, but it's not as good as Windows or OS X

flyingfisch

@voretaq7 seriously? dude. Debian is rock solid.

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 I disagree about the server part. And so does Stack Exchange, and Google, and Facebook, and [insert most non-microsoft oriented companies]

voretaq7

19:18

@BretCopeland Call me when the Red Hat major version upgrade path does not include the words "reinstall the system"

:)

flyingfisch

@voretaq7 ah, k

@voretaq7 use Debian

or SUSE

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 I think that's actually the trend though. Are you aware of SmartOS?

voretaq7

(I have an unreasonable standard for "server" operating systems: "I should never have to walk into the datacenter again until I physically replace the box")

@flyingfisch Debian-derived distros are a little better (Ubuntu still self-destructs occasionally, but I've done the last 3 distro changes without having to recall every one of our field units for a reinstall, so that's an improvement)

I have philosophical problems with Debian (the actual Debian distros) -- mainly that they try to force their GNU/Freeness on me.

flyingfisch

oh

voretaq7

(kinda like I have philosophical issues with OpenBSD: "Theo's an ass. I don't want to use software where the lead developer is an ass.")

Bret Copeland

19:21

The SRE's here just script everything. Even the Windows environments are scripted for the entire setup process. So if they want to upgrade something, they change the script, blow away the old server OS or VM, and just rebuild it.

They also generally don't debug configuration errors which randomly pop up, because it's actually easier and quicker to just rebuild the server.

voretaq7

@BretCopeland SmartOS can go through a base system revision without requiring me to put a CD in the drive (at least Illumos could, so I assume SmartOS can too...)

@BretCopeland that's basically my philosophy. "It's not working? Press the redeploy button. If it's still not working after that I'll actually look at the problem."

all my debugging is generally done before the final image is committed for pushing

Bret Copeland

The point is, SmartOS doesn't do patches. They just release a new version of the OS for every change big or small, and you have to plug in the new version. However, there's not really an install process. It's more like a live disk.

voretaq7

@BretCopeland yeah it's like the iphone release process

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 well, that's one way to get me to not like it.

voretaq7

I don't have a problem with that, I have a problem with "run the installer, partition the disk, install the OS, reinstall all your software, . . . " - SmartOS is like doing a VMWare or IOS upgrade, "Reimage the OS. Reboot. Resume use"

Bret Copeland

19:26

yeah

voretaq7

it's the moral equivalent of what I do now, I just build my own OS image :)

(and to be fair I could do exactly what I do now for FreeBSD for any Linux distro -- we do it for Ubuntu on our field units. I just feel like the tools Linux gives me do their best to get in my way while I'm creating the base image :)

IDK how the Stack guys manage Windows but I imagine they're pushing out base images to all the managed workstations too - Windows has gotten really good at that in the last version or two

I think you can even do a base OS upgrade with the imaging tools now

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 I believe they use a combination of base images and puppet for Linux and Chocolatey for Windows

voretaq7

@BretCopeland <gives food-named package manager an odd look>

. . . I suppose I should be thankful it doesn't have "super cow powers"

(Arguments in favor of NOT rewriting FAR 23: "Open Source Software {documentation, change logs}")

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 I reformatted a change log today >:)

voretaq7

@BretCopeland with the ReforMat tool? :)

Bret Copeland

19:37

luckily it only had two entries, and I was adding a third.

I became a maintainer of this repo today, and there were a bunch of little things which needed to be done.

The old History.md format was terrible, and at least my version is a little better.

voretaq7

@BretCopeland git-whatchanged -- "There's your history. Now sod off!"

So apparently the official story for the ERAM self-destruction is "The U-2 did it." -- Good to see one Lockheed-Martin product breaking another. Maybe they can break Flight Service again too while they're at it?

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 that's really sad.

voretaq7

19:52

@BretCopeland The fact that two LockMart products can't cooperate, or the fact that ERAM is still as fragile as an egg? :)

"Here's the new flight plan processing system. Whatever you do, don't ask it to process flight plans!"

Bret Copeland

Not just the fact that an IFR flight plan for 60,000ft was interpreted as VFR below 10,000, but what bothered me more is that the system is apparently incapable of processing a flightplan below 10,000 ft

Seriously? Is that really an "edge case" they forgot to test for?

voretaq7

@BretCopeland "What airline flies below 10,000 feet?" . . . "Wait airlines aren't the only traffic in the system?" . . . "Wow, this is going to cost a lot more than we thought!"

flyingfisch

20:20

this is an awesome question:

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Q: Is it possible to build a paper airplane that will enter a fully developed spin?

Some students learn best when they can see aerodynamic principles in action. I'd really like to be able to show a student how a spin occurs. Is there a way to make a paper airplane that will enter a developed spin?

making a beech bonanza in flightgear, here's the panel:

Bret Copeland

@flyingfisch I don't think you're gonna get IFR certified with that panel.

flyingfisch

20:41

lol

still blocking things in at this point

i'll get the gauges in soon though

Bret Copeland

oh hey, we broke the 150 avid users mark. area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/42572/aviation

Lnafziger

21:33

@BretCopeland Slowly but surely... The last two took forever.

The number of questions asked is steadily dropping though....

Bret Copeland

@Lnafziger it has dropped, but honestly, I think right now it represents the level of questions the size of our community can naturally generate. We're past the initial influx spike, and we're past the lost airliner spike. So we can't really fool ourselves any longer into thinking those were sustained rates.

we're still doing better that almost every other site which has been in beta for less than a year.

voretaq7

22:02

The numbers are actually pretty decent - I'd like to see more visits/new visits per day but we'd need another airliner to disappear for that :)

@flyingfisch I know there's a paper airplanes group - I need to find it and see what they have to say. It ought to be easy enough to do ("just make the thing fly into a stall uncoordinated"), but I'm not sure paper airplanes naturally do that -- you might need some kind of weight at the tail to force it to pitch up into a stall

(normally on "sophisticated" paper airplanes you weight the nose so they maintain an AoA that keeps them from stalling)

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