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@ratchetfreak spreek je nederlands? :)
waar komt je vandaan? belgië?
 
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@DannyBeckett yep
 
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posted on April 02, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

2 April 1942: After loading sixteen North American Aviation B-25B Mitchell medium bombers and their crews of the 17th Bombardment Group at NAS Alameda, the recently commissioned aircraft carrier USS Hornet (CV-8) departed San Francisco Bay with her escorts and headed for a secret rendezvous with Admiral William F. Halsey and Task Force 16. The […] The post 2 April 1942 appeared first on

posted on April 03, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

3 April 1926: Virgil Ivan Grissom was born at Mitchell, Indiana, the second of five children. Upon graduation from high school during World War II, he enlisted in the U.S. Army. After the war, he went to Purdue University and earned a Bachelor of Science Degree in engineering, then joined the U.S. Air Force and […] The post 3 April 1926 – 27 January 1967 appeared first on This Day in Avi

posted on April 03, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

3 April 1933: Lord Clydesdale—at the time, the youngest Squadron Leader in the Royal Air Force and in command of 602 Squadron—as Chief Pilot of the Houston Mount Everest Flying Expedition, flew a modified Westland PV-3 biplane, G-ACAZ, in formation with a Westland PV-6, G-ACBR, piloted by Flight Lieutenant David F. McIntyre, over the summit […] The post 3 April 1933 appeared first on Thi

posted on April 03, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

3 April 1941: North American Aviation test pilot Robert C. Chilton takes his first flight—a one hour familiarization—in the company’s prototype of a new Royal Air Force fighter, the NA-73X, NX19998, at Mines Field. The airplane’s maiden flight had been flown by free-lance test pilot Vance Breese, and another test pilot, Paul Balfour, had flown […] The post 3 April 1941 appear

posted on April 03, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

3 April 1962: At NAS Point Mugu, Ventura County, California, future NASA astronaut, U.S. Navy test pilot Commander John W. Young, set a new Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI) time-to-altitude world record by flying his McDonnell Aircraft Corporation F4H-1 Phantom II, Bureau of Aeronautics serial number (Bu. No.) 149449, from the surface to 25,000 meters (82,020.997 feet) […] Th

posted on April 04, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

4 April 1917: First flight of the famous World War I fighter, the SPAD S.XIII C.1. Designed by Technical Director Louis Béchéreau and manufactured by Société Pour L’Aviation et ses Dérivés, as well as several other companies, this was an improved version of the earlier SPAD S.VII. It used a more powerful Hispano-Suiza 8Be engine […] The post 4 April 1917 appeared first on This Day

 
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posted on April 04, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

4 April 1940: Curtiss-Wright’s Chief Test Pilot H. Lloyd Child flew the first production P-40 Warhawk, Air Corps serial number 39-156, on its first flight at Buffalo, New York. The P-40 Warhawk (Curtiss Model 81) was similar to the XP-40. Considerable testing at the NACA wind tunnel at Langley Field had produced a very streamlined […] The post 4 April 1940 appeared first on This Da

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posted on April 04, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

4 April 1943: A brand-new crew with a brand new airplane, assigned to the 514th Bombardment Squadron, 376th Bombardment Group, Ninth Air Force, departed Soluch Field (now, Benina International Airport) on their first combat mission, a night attack on Naples, Italy. First Lieutenant William J. Hatton, USAAF, and his crew of eight men were flying […] The post 4 April 1943 appeared first on

posted on April 04, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

4 April 1945: 0928 at 51°31′ N., 10°18′ E, east of Hamburg, Germany, a Messerschmitt Me-262 Schwalbe twin-engine jet fighter shot down this B-24 with an R4M rocket. The four-engine bomber was a Ford B-24M-10-FO Liberator, serial number44-50838—a very long range heavy bomber assigned to the 714th Bombardment Squadron, 448th Bombardment Group (Heavy) and based […] The post 4 Ap

 
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posted on April 04, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

4 April 1968: At 07:00:01 EST, Apollo 6 (AS-502), the second and last unmanned Apollo mission, was launched from Launch Complex 39A, Kennedy Space Center, Cape Canaveral, Florida. The purpose of the flight was to determine that an all-up Saturn V could attain Trans Lunar Injection. Because of engine difficulties, it did not do so, […] The post 4 April 1968: 12:00:01 UTC, T minus Zero app

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posted on April 04, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

4 April 1975: Operation Babylift. As the end of the Vietnam War approached it was decided to evacuate 2,000 orphans, most in the care of an American hospital in Saigon, and to take them to safety within the United States. The first flight was aboard a U.S. Air Force Lockheed C-5A Galaxy heavy lift transport, […] The post 4 April 1975 appeared first on This Day in Aviation.

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15:23
awfully quiet in here today
Shhh, don't wake the natives!
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meowwwwwwww? <shreds furniture>
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Q: What is the best API to get flight data?

StylerI have been using an Android app to track flights. Their information is pulled from their own proprietary database, and some (with 5 minute delay) from the FAA. I was thinking about making an app that would do this as well by pulling from multiple data sources. What are some good APIs, either ...

we could send him to opendata.SE but I don't know if that would be a good idea
16:08
is he asking about something like CloudAhoy?
I think like flightradar24
16:48
Can a normal small airplane land vertically in a strong headwind (storm)?
17:09
given enough headwind and a slow enough plane you can fly backwards
@GlenTheUdderboat any airplane can, given a strong enough headwind.
@GlenTheUdderboat A cessna 172 could do it pretty easily. In a strong wind while performing slow flight you can hover or move backwards with respect to the ground.
The main problem is going to be the need for a constant wind with height to really do a vertical profile easily.
@casey Of course I knew it was possible in theory, but you're saying that also in practice it can be, and is, done?
Which I would love to see. :)
Which, implies, also, that you may take-off vertically in similar circumstances? Right?
Which would be even more cool. :)
(Probably need very good brakes though.)
17:59
All you need is tie-down lines that break at the right point: youtube.com/watch?v=MlrD4Jjp_9g
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@NathanG Ah, nice! :)
18:38
Slow Friday!!!
hey @casey you might know -- Is **/** (mix of steady snow and....more steady snow) actually a thing that can show up on a real SIGWX chart? (asking for a friend :-))
@NathanG hah - someone didn't read the tie-down advisory circular!
(TL;DR: "Dude. Tent stakes? Really? REALLY?")
19:01
@NathanG he should have lock his elevators in the down position instead of the up position
19:13
@ratchetfreak "at least he locked them"
there's a few aircraft on the ramp by me that don't have control locks -- you can hear the controls bang against the stops in a good breeze
a good piece of rope can do a decent job of locking
@ratchetfreak Indeed. My understanding is that some older aircraft (Pipers & Mooneys, at least) weren't shipped with gust locks, so pilots use the seatbelt as a gustlock - which holds the yoke full back.
The airplane in that video looks relatively new, though I don't recognize the model.
or a stick between the seat and yoke
How does one lock the elevators? Is there a click?
like the wheellock in ground cars?
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@GlenTheUdderboat With a really pathetic looking red nylon strap :)
@voretaq7 I dont think so, a real one should just say **
no models with integrated control locks?
did you guys vote to reopen the 777 autopilot question?
Cessnas use a pin that goes through the yoke (and a block on the panel) to do the same thing :)
19:18
@voretaq7 Ah.
I'll see if I can find a pic of the EMB-145 gust lock
@ratchetfreak none I'm aware of. I know some Vans aircraft they make external gust locks for
@ratchetfreak I imagine you'd want something with removable so there's no chance it accidentally engages in flight.
and you can get a rudder lock for Cessnas IIRC (not necessary on Pipers because the rudder is mechanically linked to the nosewheel)
its on the thrust level assembly and also restricts one thrust level movement
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@NathanG makes sense
@casey so you can't take off with the gust lock installed? :-) (How you'd get through the control surface checks with the lock installed being the better question...)
@voretaq7 you disengage the locks during the checks
@ratchetfreak It was a rhetorical question
like "How the hell would you get a Cessna off the ground with the gust lock pin still in?!" since the elevator is held full-down
@voretaq7 people who are bad at the before takeoff checklist have tried!
@casey And that's what I though about the SIGWX chart - but I do vaguely recall seeing the same thing on the images for my written. I have to go look through my books again.
19:23
@voretaq7 you weight down the tail of course :)
@casey <incoherent spluttering and gesticulating wildly at the BIG RED {STRAP,FLAG}>
In a small plane that tells me you didn't even pay lip service to a preflight inspection ("Didjya even try to move the ailerons and elevator?")
@casey like do all the checks power up and then realize you are not on the runway yet...
@voretaq7 a WTF look from the CA at why the FO didn't do his job, and if the FO was particularly bad, you get the triple chime and a takeoff config warning (flaps, trim, t/o data not set)
@ratchetfreak the gust lock disengagement is on the before takeoff checklist, you can do everything after the preflight checks with it engaged, except takeoff :)
@casey "Ding Ding Ding Hey ASSHOLE, I'm not gonna fly like THIS!" -- If aircraft warning system engineers were from Jersey, Volume I.
I hate to be a passenger and hear the pilot say "why isn't the yoke moving?"
that during takeoff
19:30
@ratchetfreak "V1 - Rota....oh what the hell now?!"
@voretaq7 "REMOVE THE STRAP REMOVE THE STRAP!!!"
@ratchetfreak thats why it is designed so you cant even apply takeoff power with it engaged
ours limited one engine to barely above idle and the other to just enough to get rolling for taxi
@ratchetfreak I have to say I've never forgotten to remove the control lock... nor do I think it's really possible to do so if you're giving even lip-service to a preflight inspection
though it's certainly impossible to do if you use the pilot's seatbelt to hold the controls because you can't even climb in with the yoke full-back.
it would be hard in a cessna to do it, as I recall the metal pin has a long extension that blocks something important so you'll notice it. In the piper we used the seatbelts, so it would be hard to miss that
@casey IIRC the pin blocks the ignition switch (and there's a BIG FREAKIN' RED FLAG ON TOP that says "CONTROL LOCK - REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT")
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@casey unless you lift it and grumble about bad design
@voretaq7 that is my memory as well, I just wasn't sure enough about it to be that specific :)
@casey I've only ever flown in my friend's Cessna and she usually removed the control lock before I got in. I did steal the Cessna gust locks to use as a wrench when people would tighten the dipstick on the Pipers with a fucking air wrench or something though
(evidently there were some people at the flight school with fingers substantially stronger than mine, who were terrified of the dipstick coming out in flight?)
@voretaq7 yea, thats pretty much the first thing you do when you get into a small cessna so you can check the flight controls during the walkaround
@casey ... the second thing you do is back headfirst into the flap you just lowered. :-)
(Reason #3 why I don't like high-wing aircraft)
19:53
hah true
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it's weird how when I started answering questions again, I started gaining rep. I'm starting to sense a causality effect. I've almost worked my way back into the top ten all time. Don't want to be the blacksheep moderator.
@voretaq7 that's amazing.
also: We get sheep?! :)
I was the #1 user for like the first week of the site. rep-capped every day for a few days, then started slipping.
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@BretCopeland slacker :-)
@BretCopeland top 10? I'm waiting on 3 more upvotes to pass Manfred (temporarily I'm sure) to get back on the top row of the all time
@casey top 10 is just nice because it puts you on the A51 page.
@BretCopeland if you sort by rep
@casey which is the default
@BretCopeland true
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@casey What's an upvote worth to ya? :)
21:21
I went ahead and re-created since we have a few questions that are really MH370 specific now. We'll probably need to be vigilant to keep crap from piling up there...
It looks like @voretaq7 is trying to catch up with me.
@Lnafziger heh, fat chance.
Hey, the gap is closing anyway!
I'm no longer double your rep. ;-)
The Cherokee can catch up with the Falcon given favorable conditions... like say a few hundred knots of wind shear :-)
lol, it could happen!
21:28
@Lnafziger that's because you've actually been working :)
Yeah, flying and working in the office makes it hard to gain rep.
That plus there haven't been as many questions lately.
Today it seems to have picked up some though.
iPad and a little in-flight internet man -- the meat autopilot FO should be able to keep the nose pointed at the magenta line (I hope!) :)
I've been known to do that... I need a wireless keyboard though. Typing a long answer sucks on the iPad.
Oh, and we just got pseudo-approved for EFB's at my company yesterday!
We submitted our program to them over a year and a half ago. They finally approved it.
@Lnafziger . . . so how those 1st-gen iPads workin' out for ya? :-)
Now we just have to do EMI testing in each make and model of aircraft, send them the results, and they will sign the OpSpecs.
21:31
@Lnafziger . . . I'm sorry, your aircraft won't fit in the EMC lab's RF Quiet Room...
Hey, we have mostly 3's. And I have a retina mini... speaking of which I need to get depressurization testing for that one and submit it... sigh The work is never done.
(Actually what's the wingspan and length? it might fit...)
@Lnafziger I find the need to do EMI/EMC on a goddamn iPad in an airplane hilarious by the way.
@voretaq7 you don't want it to catch fire
@voretaq7 Tell me about it.
@ratchetfreak ...and if EMI had anything to do with that I would concede that the test is sensible - after it does contain a <horror movie announcer voice> LITHIUM BATTERY </horror movie announcer voice> :-)
21:36
On the bright side, now that the FAA has relaxed their PED policy, once we do the testing we can "allow" our passengers to use theirs too. Not that it ever stopped them before, but hey....
seriously, if an iPad can mess with an aircraft's systems we have a MUCH LARGER PROBLEM here.
Of course, some people are flying really old airplanes so maybe they should test them, lol.
@Lnafziger I have determined that the major risk in the Cherokee is if your damn cell phone is too close to your headset cable it makes the speakers crackle when we descend back in range of the cell towers and it wakes up to find service.
(surprisingly it doesn't make the VOR/GS needles jump...)
I still tell people they should turn their phones off, but that's more because the battery will be dead when we land if they don't.
Yeah, that is the big risk... A dead battery!
@Lnafziger How ya gonna call flight service to close out your flight plan without your fancy-pants cell phone?! :-)
21:41
@voretaq7 With my satellite phone on the airplane? ;-)
@Lnafziger shut up :P
lol
@Farhan Yes and no.
On the particular airplane that I fly the most now, we are co-captains.
@Lnafziger Just looked at your bio and removed it.
So we alternate trips. :)
No worries
I was looking at Jon Skeet's articles. You are the JonSkeet of Aviation (no offence).
21:46
lol, I wouldn't go quite that far.
(or even close to that far actually)
Anyway, I'm leaving work. Have a good evening everybody!
Same here. Good Night

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