The Hangar

voretaq7

00:01

@Lnafziger I have enough trouble wondering if MY idiot government will do little things like pay ATC to show up to work - I can't worry about Europe too! :P

Anonymous

>mfw those dollar bills damage the engine

Lnafziger

@voretaq7 You will if you have a flight there! :-)

voretaq7

@Lnafziger I really try to avoid traveling by human mailing tube these days

Anonymous

>mfw main character in el señor de los cielos is based on @Lnafziger

voretaq7

It's a thoroughly soul-crushing and miserable experience IMHO

Lnafziger

00:02

@PatoSáinz lol

Anonymous

>mfw i don't even have a face for that

voretaq7

@Lnafziger also our ATC folks did something like that once. Our addle-brained president just fired them all.

Lnafziger

@voretaq7 Yeah, because it was illegal.

(Not that I agree with that either, by the way...)

voretaq7

@Lnafziger please, every strike is illegal in the government's eyes

Lnafziger

@voretaq7 Ummm, no? Only for "essential government services" or something like that.

voretaq7

00:07

@Lnafziger EVERYTHING is essential.

If the teamsters voted to go on a general strike and halt trucking you watch how quickly the government would nationalize that industry

Just like hospital workers can't strike -the nurses union here tried & they were ordered back to work (even though they're apparently not so essential that the hospital needs to maintain contracted staffing levels - figure that out)

casey

00:49

@voretaq7 Ask any ALPA member why pilots don't strike over wages. Short answer, we can.... but we first have to wait for our contract to become amendable (it never expires, just maintains status quo), then for negotiations to break down to where both sides declare an impasse, get a mediator from the feds to then put you on a 30-day "cool down" clock before self-help can begin. And then if you ever make it that far, the president can order you back to work.

Serious question time: Is the battlestar galactica TV series aviation related?

Lnafziger

@casey Not sure, put a meta post up and let's take a vote.

@casey (Okay, okay, just kidding! ;-) )

I'd say that it is more space/sci-fi than aviation though.

casey

@Lnafziger on one hand I agree with that, but on the other their depiction of the flight line and the hangar deck is truer to aviation than any other space opera

(and they are capable of atmospheric flight)

also proof that I should put neflix down and do something else with my time

Lnafziger

@casey yeah, even Avatar (which is not an aviation movie) has some great flying stuff in the beginning.

casey

true

voretaq7

@Lnafziger Personally I'm not sure "Top Gun" belongs in the aviation category half the time

the best Aviation parts of that movie are the fighter porn :P

Lnafziger

01:05

@voretaq7 Yeah, that one I would have left off the list too, but it is fun to watch. :)

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz lol.... :p

Well, I can almost guarantee that with the way that the question is currently worded, that it won't stay that way. It's only a matter of time before "Soul Plane" and "Snakes on a Plane" makes it onto the list. If that is your intent, then make that clear and we can start the conversation over. :) — Lnafziger 5 mins ago

@Lnafziger oh shit, you were the one that mentioned Soul Plane, lol

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett Haha, yeah that's about the worst "aviation" movie that I can think of.

Danny Beckett

tbh I wouldn't mind seeing the movie question go, but I'd really like to see the TV show one stay

@Lnafziger lmao, haven't seen that one, thankfully

Lnafziger

We could get a list of all of the FAA released training videos. That would put anyone going through them to sleep in a hurry.

@DannyBeckett Neither have I, but the previews were excruciating.

voretaq7

@Lnafziger hey some of those are zzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

Danny Beckett

01:10

lol!

Philippe Leybaert

Is Flightplan considered an aviation movie?

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett

Anonymous

aviation.stackexchange.com/revisions/1373/24

Anonymous

do you really think it's better off?

Anonymous

I think have a little 100x100 image for each would be neat

Anonymous

01:21

@Lnafziger why do you hate fun?, typical SE mod (it's a joke you know i love you) — Pato Sáinz 12 secs ago

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz I think it's easier at a glance, seeing a short blurb. Adding images doesn't really help (other than "looking pretty")

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett by blurb you mean a little summary of the plot? because atm blurbs are "spanish, from year X, with english subtitles

Danny Beckett

yeah

write something :)

(short)

Lnafziger

imdb.com/title/tt1907668/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3

That's an aviation movie, right?

Haha, I was expecting that to onebox like wiki's.

Flight with Denzel Washington

casey

has a plane somewhere in it (check).

has a pilot in it (check)

yep

Danny Beckett

01:30

lol

Anonymous

@casey under that rationale 2012 is also an aviation movie

casey

i never said it wasnt a slippery slope

Anonymous

y'know, the scene where the pilot had an affair with the rich man's wife

Anonymous

and there were bentleys in the cargo bay of the jet

casey

pretty soon, all movies will be aviation movies

Danny Beckett

01:30

I just edited my Meta answer to include that I'd like a limiting factor to the movie suggestions..

Lnafziger

Planes is too!

2

Anonymous

looooooooooooooool

Lnafziger

(That actually is more accurate than a lot of "real" movies.)

Anonymous

@Lnafziger you won all my internet points

Danny Beckett

haha

Lnafziger

01:31

@PatoSáinz Yay!

Philippe Leybaert

@Lnafziger I agree, totally. Planes is probably more realistic than Flight :)

Danny Beckett

!!wiki Flightplan

Otto the Autopilot

Flightplan

Flightplan is a 2005 thriller film directed by German film director Robert Schwentke and starring Jodie Foster, Peter Sarsgaard, Erika Christensen, Kate Beahan, Greta Scacchi, and Sean Bean. The movie was loosely based on the 1938 mystery film The Lady Vanishes. It was released in North America on September 23, 2005. Plot Kyle Pratt (Jodie Foster), a U.S. aircraft engineer employed in Berlin, Germany, is widowed with her six-year-old daughter Julia (Marlene Lawston) after her husband David (John Benjamin Hickey) fell off the roof of their building to his death. Kyle decides to bury him ...

Danny Beckett

there's that too :p

Philippe Leybaert

@DannyBeckett I asked about that (see above)

I think it doesn't belong in the list IMHO

Danny Beckett

01:32

ah, so you did!

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett I'd suggest editing the actual questions so that everyone will have clear guidance before they add another movie to the list.

Danny Beckett

@PhilippeLeybaert couldn't agree more!

Lnafziger

!!wiki planes movie

Otto the Autopilot

Planes (film)

Planes is a 2013 American 3D computer-animated sports comedy film produced by DisneyToon Studios and released by Walt Disney Pictures. It is a spin-off of Pixar's Cars franchise and the first film in a planned Planes trilogy. Despite not being produced by Pixar, the film was co-written and executive produced by Pixar's chief creative officer John Lasseter, who directed the Cars films. Like most of DisneyToon's films, it was initially set to be released as a direct-to-video film, but was theatrically released on August 9, 2013 in the Disney Digital 3D and RealD 3D formats. A sequel, title...

Lnafziger

I loved that one, lol.

Danny Beckett

01:33

@Lnafziger are you good with words? can you come up with something?

I can't think quite how to word it

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett Umm... I think that I would be implicitly approving the question being there if I edited it. ;-)

Danny Beckett

yeah that crossed my mind :p

then write something and I'll post it? lol

Lnafziger

Is that why you asked?? ;-)

Danny Beckett

@Lnafziger HAHA! nah only realised after asking

possibly rewording the question titles might help, e.g. What TV shows are there about aviation? and What <realistic> aviation movies are there? or something..

Lnafziger

Umm..

Danny Beckett

01:40

Genius man used one first class airplane ticket to eat free for a year

Lnafziger

This question aims to serve as a Community Wiki resource for educational, informative, and/or realistic aviation movies such as documentaries or training videos that can be used to learn more about aviation.

Danny Beckett

hmm

Airplane! is out of the question then? :p

!!do you like that Otto?

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett I expect so

Danny Beckett

oh well, Otto agrees with you

I'm just not sure about the last bit of it

oh idk any more

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett Lol, great article!

Danny Beckett

01:43

@Lnafziger yeah I thought so :D

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett testing an userscript on you:

Danny Beckett

> The best part though? When China Eastern Airlines started investigating this heroic man for changing his flights too many times, he simply canceled his airplane ticket and got a full refund. Well done, sir. Well done.

Anonymous

apparently regex didn't add a problem, but it made the 99 others disappear

Danny Beckett

can you test that in the other room? and delete.. plskthx :)

Anonymous

ohh right taking it to #av-testing

Danny Beckett

01:45

cheers :)

casey

Anyone worried that our visitors/day metric is on a downward spiral? Currently area51 lists it as 380/day.

Anonymous

o.O when i left it was around 750

Danny Beckett

yeah a little, but it has increased from the low it was at, a week or so ago

Anonymous

i told vore to take care of Av while i wasn't here, damn it

Lnafziger

It should come back up now that @PatoSáinz is back from vacation.

Danny Beckett

01:59

lol

Anonymous

indeed

Anonymous

i'm leaving again the 30rd

Anonymous

but whatever

Anonymous

lol

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz lol that reminds me of how Hyves (kinda a Dutch version of Facebook) misuses their numbers too..

30rd -> 30th, just like Hyves' 22th -> 22nd and 23th -> 23rd ;)

Anonymous

02:03

@DannyBeckett ohh damn it

Anonymous

i know the difference between 30rd and 30th but now i was just too unfocused

Danny Beckett

meh, I'm only nitpicking... just saying because it reminded me of a Hyves email, lol

Anonymous

lol

Danny Beckett

you ever gonna take your hat off? @PatoSáinz

Anonymous

too lazy

Danny Beckett

02:07

:p

Anonymous

only if there's another hat to replace it

Danny Beckett

Anonymous

best fligt sim: battlefield 4

Anonymous

prove me wrong

Danny Beckett

I'd imagine X Plane 10 would probably come close 2nd though :p

Anonymous

02:11

hahaha

Danny Beckett

or a real sim

Anonymous

►

Anonymous

for you

Danny Beckett

listening :)

@voretaq7 "Useful FAR/AIM" :p

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett that's exactly the song i want to blast in my mega cockpit plane speakers

Danny Beckett

02:14

haha :D

Anonymous

did you like the song?

Danny Beckett

@Lnafziger I just thought of another "aviation-related" film..

!!wiki Catch me if you can

Otto the Autopilot

Catch Me If You Can

Catch Me If You Can is a 2002 American biographical crime drama film based on the life of Frank Abagnale, who, before his 19th birthday, successfully performed cons worth millions of dollars by posing as a Pan American World Airways pilot, a Georgia doctor, and a Louisiana parish prosecutor. His primary crime was check fraud; he became so skillful that the FBI eventually turned to him for help in catching other check forgers. The film was directed by Steven Spielberg and stars Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks, with Christopher Walken, Amy Adams, Martin Sheen, and Nathalie Baye in support...

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz yeah man

haven't heard it before either :)

Anonymous

:)

Danny Beckett

02:17

ahhh, gonna have to add that site to the feeds - the posts are infrequent anyway

Stack Exchange

Danny Beckett has made a change to the feeds posted into this room

Lnafziger

Which site?

Catch me if you can is a great movie!

Danny Beckett

@Lnafziger aviationhumor.net

Lnafziger

Not sure how much is aviation related though. :)

Danny Beckett

@Lnafziger yeah it is, haven't seen it in a while! he poses as a pilot anyway

Stack Exchange

02:19

http://aviationhumor.net/helicopter-pilot/
Aviation Humor
Helicopter Pilot
admin
1389979307

http://aviationhumor.net/how-incentive-flight-feels/
Aviation Humor
How Incentive Flight Feels
admin
1390158520

http://aviationhumor.net/keep-calm-and-brrrt-on/
Aviation Humor
Keep Calm And BRRRT On
admin
1390174865

http://aviationhumor.net/best-simulator-ever/
Aviation Humor
Best Simulator Ever
admin
1390229930

http://aviationhumor.net/photobomb-level-747/
Aviation Humor
Photobomb Level : 747
admin
1390734284

casey

At least that once scene with the flight attendants

Lnafziger

@PatoSáinz Cool song!

Danny Beckett

haha I like that one

Lnafziger

Yeah, I liked the "Master Caution" one on their main page too

Danny Beckett

last one!

Anonymous

02:31

@Lnafziger oh you like drumstep or anything EDM?

Lnafziger

@PatoSáinz I like lots of music, but that just "caught my fancy" if you will.

Danny Beckett

(A5702/13 NOTAMN
Q) LFXX/QXXXX/IV/NBO/E /000/999/4504N00053E999
A) LFMM LFRR LFBB LFEE LFFF B) 1310100400 C) 1310101800
E) DUE TO A STRIKE AFFECTING FRENCH CIVIL AVIATION SERVICES,
SOME DISTURBANCES MIGHT AFFECT FRENCH ATS,AIS AND COM SERVICES:
1-A MINIMUM SERVICE WILL BE ENSURED IN ACCS AND AT
LFPG/LFPO/LFSB/LFST/LFLL/LFLC/LFMN/LFML/LFKB/LFKC/LFKJ/LFBD/LFBI/LFBL
/LFBO/LFRG/LFRS AND OVERSEAS AIRPORTS. ACTUAL ATC CAPACITY WILL BE
DETERMINED ACCORDING TO AVAILABLE STAFF.
2-AT OTHER AERODROMES,ATS SERVICES MIGHT BE UNAVAILABLE DURING

Anonymous

:)

Danny Beckett

@Lnafziger that NOTAM's for you

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett Very nice.

That has to be over 500 characters, how did you manage that? ;-)

Danny Beckett

02:33

I guess due to the newlines

@Lnafziger here's another one (from Italy, instead of France):

Anonymous

Danny hacked SE

Danny Beckett

(A6840/13 NOTAMN
Q) LIXX/QXXLW/IV/NBO/E /000/999/4339N01139E546
A) LIBB LIMM LIRR B) 1310181100 C) 1310181500
E) DUE TO STRIKE OF PART OF OPERATIONAL PERSONNEL FOLLOWING
AIR NAVIGATION SERVICES MAY BE AFFECTED:
1) LIBB, LIMM, LIPP AND LIRR ACC/FIC
2) ATS AND MET OBS PROVIDED BY ENAV, AT:
LIEA LIBD LIRQ LIRF LIPK LIBG LIEO LIME LICJ LIPE
LIBP LIPQ LIRU LIPZ LIMJ LICA LICR LIML LIMC LIMF
LICC LIRN LIMG LIPB LIPY LIPX LIBC LICD LIPU LICG
LIMP LIQN LIMA LIMZ LIRI LIPV LIRZ LIBF LIEE LIPO LICB
3) ATS/AIS/MET AND COM PROVIDED BY FLW UNITS:

@PatoSáinz if you add a newline, it bypasses the 500 char limit, but you can't use Markdown (bold etc)

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett We can use that for Otto for regs, unprocessed weather, etc.

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett it IS chock-sized....

Danny Beckett

@Lnafziger yeah exactly!

god give me strength.... my grandmother's printed something out, made a tiny alteration, scanned it, then emailed it to me to type it for her

thank god the URL's at the bottom :p

Lnafziger

02:45

@DannyBeckett LMAO, at least she's somewhat technical if she can do all of that!

Danny Beckett

and yet she still hasn't figured out copy and paste :p

voretaq7

I once worked on a friend's dad's computer. He had the hard drive divided into six partitions, C: through J:, with a 'Documents' directory tree on each one. Each new file appeared to be saved to a partition at random. I knew enough not to ask.

Danny Beckett

lol!

voretaq7

<watching the History Channel A-10 special> I wonder if the museum at Republic will get one when they finally retire them...

Danny Beckett

awesome looking plane!

voretaq7

02:50

@DannyBeckett they're kinda hideous :-)

it really is an aircraft built around its gun

Danny Beckett

you'd be shitting yourself in the 70's if you saw that coming towards you

yeah lol

voretaq7

I've seen one up close - you'd shit yourself in the 2000s too.

particularly if that gun is firing :)

Danny Beckett

was just thinking that :p

voretaq7

►

Danny Beckett

that's ridiculous! :D

voretaq7

02:54

it's something like 400 rounds per second I think

the bullet bill may exceed the cost of fuel

hm, wikipedia says 60-70, I must be thinking of some other gun?

Danny Beckett

yeah I believe so... I was watching Guntucky. They went to a trade show in one of the episodes, and one of the guns there was thousands of dollars of ammo per minute

voretaq7

The Vulcan - that's the one I was thinking of (the F-105's cannon)

Danny Beckett

btw @voretaq7, I don't want to add a new answer just for the sake of this, but this video might be useful to include in your checkride answer! youtube.com/watch?v=kr483zBbQKw

oh no way... you already did, lol

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett isn't that the one I linked to?

Danny Beckett

yeah I was just reading your answer, hadn't realised, also remembered that video :)

voretaq7

03:04

that video is getting a little dated though

I think almost all of it is still correct

Danny Beckett

does the student mess anything up, do you remember? I turned it off like half-way through... he seemed to be acing it by that point though

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett I...don't think so

I vaguely recall that there were a couple of things that changed because the regs changed

but I think he does fine on the exam

Danny Beckett

figured as much!

wouldn't mind seeing someone mess it up, lol

...harsh, perhaps

2

@PatoSáinz Even Reykjavik Airport uses PHP :p

Anonymous

lol

Danny Beckett

03:27

...on a Windows machine, no less

Lnafziger

►

Can a private pilot land an airliner?

This should be entertaining.

Danny Beckett

@abelenky Gooooo Hawks! :D

Anonymous

@Lnafziger can you and danny please listen to

Anonymous

►

Anonymous

and tell me what you think

Anonymous

03:31

i'm about to get my jimmies rustled to death

Danny Beckett

sure!

I like Animals better ;)

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett are you trolling me? please say so

Danny Beckett

it's a popular Martin Garrix tune atm

!!youtube martin garrix animals

Otto the Autopilot

►

Anonymous

bleep

Anonymous

03:33

@DannyBeckett i know

Anonymous

it's a farce

Danny Beckett

lol

Anonymous

garrix is a farce

Anonymous

he isn't a sellout because he didn't even have the opportunity to not sell out

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett please read doandroidsdance.com/features/… it's just a couple of minutes and it's pure golden truth

Danny Beckett

03:34

ah well

Anonymous

all what garrix does is to get hype from spinnin' records while copying other artists' hits

Anonymous

it's an example of the cancer that's killing "mainstream" edm

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz I just read it, but it doesn't really bother me..

Bret Copeland

@Lnafziger when I asked my friend how different it was landing his C182 vs a B737, his response was "landing the 737 is way easier."

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett why wouldn't it bother you

Danny Beckett

03:38

@PatoSáinz because I have better things to worry about :)

Anonymous

label marketing fake sh*t for an extremely overcrafted pop song

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett heh, i love music

Anonymous

hearing about those practices actually drive me mad

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz I'd highly recommend watching this, in that case: sploid.gizmodo.com/…

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett @PatoSáinz When you said Animals, I thought you were referring to Pink Floyd.

And I was going to agree

Danny Beckett

03:40

haha!

Lnafziger

lol

Anonymous

lol

Bret Copeland

lol

What are we laughing at?

2

Lnafziger

@BretCopeland I'd agree. Once you've flown the 737 for awhile anyway. It's a tough transition in the beginning though.

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett shocking too, at least i'm sure daft punk didn't do it will full willingness to go mainstream and cash out

Anonymous

03:41

unlike mr. martin here copycatting every know artist

Lnafziger

@BretCopeland Actually, that's BS. It may be easier for him since he flies it every day though. A jet is hard to land, and takes a lot of practice to learn.

Kind of like a small prop airplane, but it's completely different and you get to learn a lot of it all over again.

Danny Beckett

at the risk of sounding stupid, what makes a jet harder to land?

Anonymous

mfw i spent 8 hours in a car when it would have just taken me 1 hour and a half to go back from my countryhouse via plane

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett Mainly that the damn thing won't slow down.

Danny Beckett

ah ok

Bret Copeland

03:44

@Lnafziger I think the comparison is specifically to a 182, which is tougher to land well than most singles.

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett Speed control is much more critical in a jet. You can't just make a quick adjustment like you can in an airplane with a prop.

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz I did a flight from Oslo -> Stavanger. It's about 45 mins by plane, or 10 hours by car due to the terrain

Lnafziger

Also, if you flare them you can sail all the way down the runway and crash into the trees without ever touching the runway.

Because the have so little drag (relatively).

Danny Beckett

I see!

what kind of speed do you land at? around 100?

Lnafziger

Then there's the matter of stopping them. They are much heavier, and have better brakes, but you also need to use the other systems to stop them in a reasonable distance (spoilers, thrust reversers, etc.)

Bret Copeland

03:46

Jets are way easier to land in a sim than singles... but that's not real life.

Lnafziger

yeah, you touch down a lot faster too and fly the approach faster so "small" corrections make a much bigger impact in the jet. Same on the runway, where it's easy to over-correct and run right off the side.

@BretCopeland On a PC sim?

voretaq7

@BretCopeland everything is easy to land in the simulator :)

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett Usually between 110 - 140 knots.

(depending on the jet and the weight at landing)

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 disagree. I suck at landing a single in a sim. I can land a jet every time.

In real life (so far) I've always been able to land a single.

Danny Beckett

you're talking about on a PC? the little planes are like bouncy balls when landing

bouncy, bouncy, bouncy!

Bret Copeland

03:49

@Lnafziger yes, I've never been lucky enough to sit in a full-size jet simulator.

voretaq7

@BretCopeland I can pretty much land anything I've tried in FS X, but the difference between a good landing and a thud isn't as well defined in the sims

Lnafziger

Too bad I don't go up to the NE for simulator training anymore. I'd have you guys come down and take one for a flight.

voretaq7

though it is a darn sight better than the older versions where you could wheelbarrow down the runway on the nosewheel and the sim would just go "....yeah, OK. Seems legit."

Danny Beckett

what kind of setup do you guys have at home, sim-wise?

Bret Copeland

@Lnafziger damn it.

Danny Beckett

03:50

just a yoke, or like a full setup, similar to how abelenky has

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett these days, nothing :) My little brother has my yoke and pedals

Lnafziger

@DannyBeckett None.

@PatoSáinz That song wasn't bad either. Not normally what I listen to though. :)

Danny Beckett

interesting! I guess you just get up and fly IRL though

voretaq7

Cranky voretaq7 is cranky -- I'm glad I downloaded all the applicable recurring SBs for my plane when I bought it :P

Danny Beckett

> You need to Register or Login to do that

Anonymous

03:52

@Lnafziger it's sort of a good song, problem is the lack of originality

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett well that's the logic I use yes. Now if it would stop being {cold, snowy, crazy windy, foggy, otherwise generally miserable}

@DannyBeckett bah - it's me bitching about how Piper broke their service bulletin links on their website

Bret Copeland

@DannyBeckett I mostly just use my SaiTek AV8R joystick, but I also have SaiTek "Pro Flight" yoke/throttle quandrant/rudder pedals/multi-panel. I just hardly ever set it all up.

Rudder pedals are difficult to use with a rolling chair.

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 lol!

voretaq7

(it used to be really easy - you type in the document ID and it would give you a PDF. Now you pick a model and you get about 1/4 of them )

@BretCopeland that's what the chocks are for!

Danny Beckett

^

Bret Copeland

03:54

oh, of course. What could go wrong?

Danny Beckett

@BretCopeland ah nice! I'm gonna invest in some SaiTek stuff soon. Starting off with the yoke I guess

voretaq7

@BretCopeland your chair could slide back short final causing your plane to veer wildly with the crosswind and wind up in the bay. It's fine, the passengers can swim.

5

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 sucks! good luck!

Lnafziger

Everybody star vortaq's last comment.

It sounds great out of context!

Danny Beckett

lol

voretaq7

03:56

"In the event of a water landing your seat cushion can be used as a flotation device.... um, we tested that with FAA-Standard 170lb scrawny bastards, so you fat ass Americans...y'all gonna drown."

5

Danny Beckett

hahah

voretaq7

It's funny 'cuz its true (applicable to BOTH comments no less)

Bret Copeland

A seat sliding back in a real airplane during flight is rather disconcerting.

voretaq7

@BretCopeland Indeed.

Danny Beckett

Jan 9 at 5:58, by Danny Beckett

74.1%

voretaq7

03:59

Disconcerting is the phrase I use for the seat tracks in my plane (they're the typical GA tracks with the stop holes drilled... except the very back set of holes isn't aligned right, so the seat only locks in on one side.

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