The Hangar

lnafziger

16:00

@DannyBeckett: Hey, I edited your question (aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/613/…) to remove the USA tag because it is a regulation question and the country really doesn't matter, but you put it back. Do you think that we need to specify the country regardless?

Danny Beckett

hey @lnafziger, how's it going? :) I mentioned the US specifically in the question, that's why I added it back in

lnafziger

@DannyBeckett: There is also a meta question about country specific questions (meta.aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/3/…) which has an accepted answer about using the regulatory authority instead.

Danny Beckett

I think the country does matter. For example, in the UK, some other "smoking in a work vehicle" law probably applies

lnafziger

@DannyBeckett: I'm good, thanks. You?

Danny Beckett

good too thanks!!

just reading that Meta question now

lnafziger

16:03

Well, I've been under the impression that if you as a question tagged as FAA, that kind of implies US regulations.

(And don't worry, I'm just trying to standardize some of the questions.. maybe it would be better to have both in this case.)

Danny Beckett

hmmm, the accepted answer says "If a user wishes to ask about an issue in regards to a specific country, they should mention it in their question and tag it as such."

lnafziger

I just hate to have both every time because it eats up two tags when others may be more appropriate... Especially since FAA does cover the US aviation regs..

Danny Beckett

think of it this way though: presume somebody goes here: usa

lnafziger

Yeah, that's immediately after "We should create tags for major aviation regulatory bodies on an as-needed basis."

Danny Beckett

maybe they want to see all US-related questions

but not specifically FAA-related questions

just all US

...are you following?

(I don't know the best answer, also trying to wrap my head around it)

lnafziger

16:07

Oh, and Bret's comment under the answer (with three up-votes) mentions using the regulator authority... It's come up in a couple of meta questions.

Yeah, I know what you are saying.

I put another meta question that suggests using "faa-regulations" (and "icao-regulations", etc.) for regulatory questions and "faa" for issues related directly with the faa.

That seemed to be received well, but we haven't implemented it yet.

It seems to me to be the best way to go, but that's just my opinion after thinking about it for awhile. :-)

Danny Beckett

I'll leave it with you... do whatever you think :)

lnafziger

On this specific question, if you are interested in answers other than FAR/FAA answers, maybe drop that and only leave the USA tag, and clarify in your question that you are interested in answers that cover more than just FAR's, but all pertinent US laws. (I would think that FAR should be enough, but maybe not.)

Depends on what exactly you are looking for, lol.

(And if that's the case, then the accepted answer only covers the FARs. :-) )

Anyway, how is the bot coming along?

@DannyBeckett - I was wondering if I can help with adding some new commands to it.

Danny Beckett

absolutely!!

how's your JavaScript? @lnafziger

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett as usual, javascript's awful

Danny Beckett

it really isn't

voretaq7

16:18

@PatoSáinz There's nothing wrong with Javascript. It's a turing-complete language, just like Brainfuck.

Anonymous

shivers

Danny Beckett

ah, Brainfuck... now that's awful

hello @voretaq7, btw :)

Anonymous

brainfuck is a syntactic delight compared to JS

Danny Beckett

you must be joking

what's with this vendetta against JS anyway?

every website you go on uses it

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett Written anything in JQuery lately? :)

Danny Beckett

16:19

nah I don't like frameworks

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett Every website you go on uses it incorrectly <-- Fixed that for ya.

Danny Beckett

also true ;)

done correctly though, it can be beautiful code

see weather.js (the !!weather command's code)

lnafziger

My JS is so-so, but I'm wanting to learn it better. I'm an iOS developer and understand the concepts though, lol.

Plus Google is my friend. :)

Danny Beckett

blame GitHub for the weird indenting

@lnafziger Firstly you need data from somewhere. Do you have a command in mind you'd like to make?

Ideally you want the data in JSON or XML

Generated by a GET Uri

lnafziger

@DannyBeckett: I was thinking of something the other day (don't remember off the top of my head)... It will come back to me though, lol.

Anonymous

16:23

@DannyBeckett websites should run lolcode and you know it

Danny Beckett

give me a shout when it does! I'll guide you a bit @lnafziger

I'm currently writing a screen-scraper/HTML-parser to get the full airport name (sadly the only way)

lnafziger

What about just generating a link to the airport diagram and approach plates? Like !!charts KMIA

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 Give the weather command a try - few changes: accepts IATA codes; human observation time; AGL moved

@lnafziger you'll have to forgive me, what's an airport diagram and approach plates? an image?

because we should be able to embed images directly

similar to the !!youtube command, like this:

!!youtube rickroll

Otto the Autopilot

►

lnafziger

@DannyBeckett: Well, there is more than one: aeronav.faa.gov/…

@DannyBeckett: The individual plates are PDF's though.

Danny Beckett

16:30

yeah, PDF's aren't gonna be embedded any time soon..

then again, they could be proxied through PHP and converted to an image

I see what you mean with more than one

lnafziger

Well, because there are so many I think that it would be handy to just spit out a link to the airport page with the list of procedures

Sometimes there aren't as many though

aeronav.faa.gov/…

Danny Beckett

we need an !!airport command anyway, to retrieve aerodrome info

could always include the link on there

lnafziger

Yeah, maybe include it there. That's a great idea!

Danny Beckett

:)

lnafziger

"Instrument procedures: <link>"

Danny Beckett

16:32

yeah exactly

you have some free time now?

I can get you setup on FTP and SSH with a login

lnafziger

Actually I'm at work right now.. About to get off of here.

Danny Beckett

and tell you the basics of how to get started

ok man no problem!

lnafziger

We can do it later when we both have time or you can email me.

[email protected]

Danny Beckett

I'm not gonna be around later tonight, but we can chat tomorrow

lnafziger

Okay, sounds good.

Thanks!

Danny Beckett

16:34

yeah, thanks to you too! saves me from doing all the work :)

I think it will be best to chat... once you're setup, it's easy enough, but it bitches at every turn, so knowing how to overcome that will be needed

probably easier to explain as you see what I mean, than in an email

lnafziger

Haha, yeah right? I can work on the airport info command if you want.

yeah, sounds good.

Danny Beckett

yeah that sounds great!

I still have some work to do on the weather command anyway

lnafziger

Okay, talk to you soon.

Danny Beckett

(currently no gust info or QC flags)

ok, talk soon!

lnafziger

Think about how you want to handle that usa tag. ;-)

Danny Beckett

16:36

lol!

lnafziger

/question

Danny Beckett

ok, talk to you tomorrow at some point!

voretaq7

!!weather KHTO

Otto the Autopilot

@voretaq7 KHTO: LIFR • Observed: 3 hours ago • Wind: 190°/S @ 14kts • Visibility: 0.13mi/0.21km • Sky (AGL): Obscured @ 0ft • Temperature: 12.0°C/54°F • Dewpoint: 12.0°C/54°F • Pressure: 29.51" Hg/999mb

voretaq7

I think they have a weather station....

Danny Beckett

16:38

Obscured @ 0ft?

bad weather

(that's the OVX we talked about)

also need to add the remarks still, e.g. fog @voretaq7

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett it's raining here, HTO is probably socked in under fog.

aaaand that's also 3 hours old?

egid

hah, that matches the ADDS data

somebody broke something

heh

voretaq7

@egid It's the hamptons. Nobody's there, the season is over.

(They get a tower now during "The Season" though)

egid

whoops.

@lnafziger the more I think about it, the more I wonder if a usa tag would be useful. We can't assume that amateurs or students necessarily know to search or tag things far.

Danny Beckett

16:53

that's kinda what I was alluding to, also @egid

that somebody might just be browsing the [usa] tag

egid

yeah, i agree with you

especially for non-americans, even professionals, they may not know how to find us-oriented questions

i think that's a little less likely, but still probable

man, our questions per day keeps dropping :(

Danny Beckett

personally, I'd like to see the [usa] tag full of all sorts of things

as a non-American, I definitely don't know every US-centric abbreviation

voretaq7

@egid The more I think about it the more I think country-specific tags are a good idea, but at the same time "professionals" are going to look for faa or far/far-91 etc....

egid

we'll have to have some redundancy

there's really no way around it imo

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 exactly, so use both faa and usa, imo

egid

16:57

and usa won't even necessarily always be a synonym for faa

Danny Beckett

...but then you're probably gonna get regulation too

which is 3 for the sake of 1

...btw, how do you make a tag in chat?

egid

square brackets around tag:tagname

Danny Beckett

ah, thx ;)

egid

Danny Beckett

lol!

oh btw @voretaq7 I ended up listening to 5 Uncontrolled Airspace's at like 1.5 hrs each

about to start my 6th

300 to go! haha... cheers for the recommendation

voretaq7

17:00

@egid Questions/day is always artificially inflated at the start of a beta (because of all the first-day questions) - if we stay around 6 I'm not too worried

@DannyBeckett did you listen to Amy's ditching? :)

egid

all the area51 garbage about successful betas has me worried

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 I did

@voretaq7 listened to the whole of #68 instead of the classic #1

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett did you listen to Amy's ditching? :)

Danny Beckett

@egid I agree

voretaq7

@egid With the exception of questions/day & visits/day (which are basically the same metric from different angles) we're not doing too bad

Anonymous

17:03

hugs @egid

Anonymous

don't you worry child, it's gonna be alright

egid

that's better

Danny Beckett

whiskey tango foxtrot O.o

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett It's a cat. Trying to ship itself to Abu Dhabi.

Danny Beckett

that makes even less sense

voretaq7

17:08

18

Ebooks – ebooks.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for ebook publishers and readers

Currently in public beta.

Danny Beckett

ohhh, the picture... lol!

voretaq7

@egid ^^ As a somewhat-inaccurate basis of comparison

egid

heh

Anonymous

ebooks.SE?

Anonymous

wtf

voretaq7

17:10

just the first site I spotted that's been in beta for about the same length of time as we have. I've got no insight into their content because I kinda WTF'd at it myself

Danny Beckett

ebooks were good for one thing back in the day... getting your eBay rep up

1 cent per point :p

then of course once you'd bought one for a penny, you could sell it for a penny, and then have 2 points... lol

egid

@voretaq7 when is this FRG midair from?

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett lima oscar lima

egid

is there an NTSB report?

voretaq7

@egid October 2007 - I linked to the NTSB report back up in the chat

egid

17:12

ah ok i only saw it in the right sidebar

voretaq7

(search for "Delightful NTSB report" :)

Danny Beckett

I didn't even realise you could search til you mentioned... just saw the search box now

egid

got it

voretaq7

(basically the NTSB report can be summarized as "it's too damn busy and y'all done fucked up")

I feel really bad for that student solo though :)

"OK, you're all set, the weather is great, the winds are about as good as we ever see - go shoot your 3 landings" . . . then planes start crashing into each other

Danny Beckett

lol

did you see the mid-air video I posted? @voretaq7

Video of a mid-air collision, 10 skydivers jump to safety

voretaq7

17:18

@DannyBeckett that was the one that happened recently yeah?

Danny Beckett

It's from one of the Uncontrolled Airspace episodes

yeah about November-ish

voretaq7

yeah, that was pretty freakin' amazing

Danny Beckett

the fact it was caught on camera is amazing too

voretaq7

@egid area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/43283/space-exploration as another (more-closely-related) data point on beta stats :)

@DannyBeckett that's going to get way more common since everybody puts a GoPro on their plane/helmet/whatever now

Anonymous

this is my shot for the aviation.se logo

Anonymous

17:21

Anonymous

100% original, quality work

Danny Beckett

lol

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz I'm voting for ✈ in the blue talk bubble :)

Anonymous

@voretaq7 i think i do too

voretaq7

It's not quite Unicode Panda but it'll do.

Danny Beckett

17:23

@voretaq7 that's awesome

voretaq7

:sings: Unicode harassment.... 🐼Panda🐼!

Danny Beckett

there's a font you need :(

unicodepanda.com/font/panda-webfont.ttf

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett Any font with decent Unicode support will work :)

Danny Beckett

ah fair enough

(it shows as squares in your singing message)

Anonymous

> Congrats, you've gained the privilege – talk in chat – learn more

Anonymous

17:34

ehh

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett Your unicode font coverage is inadequate and you should feel like a terrible human being :-)

Can you even see the unicode ✈ Airplane✈ ? :)

Danny Beckett

yeah

panda at the top, plane at the bottom (Windows 7/Chrome)

egid

panda is emoji, airplane is unicode

fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f43c/fontsupport.htm

most fonts don't support that many utf entities

voretaq7

@egid Panda is Unicode - it's a defined character per the spec (like Dragon, and Pile of Poo, and "floating man wearing a suit")

it's the 21st century - everyone should have an expansive collection of unicode character support! How will you communicate with the aliens?!

Final Report on Planet QPX3915 ("Earth"): We attempted to make contact with the dominant species on the planet, but they just kept showing us pictures of pandas and piles of feces. We recommend avoiding this planet until such time as intelligent life develops

Anonymous

!!weather SCL

Otto the Autopilot

17:47

@PatoSáinz SCEL: VFR • Observed: 48 mins ago • Wind: 160°/SSE @ 9kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Sky (AGL): Ceiling & visibility ok • Temperature: 31.0°C/88°F • Dewpoint: 11.0°C/52°F • Pressure: 29.88" Hg/1,012mb

Anonymous

!!weather mia

Otto the Autopilot

@PatoSáinz KMIA: VFR • Observed: 55 mins ago • Wind: 220°/SW @ 8kts • Visibility: 10.0mi/16.09km • Sky (AGL): Few clouds @ 2,800ft; Scattered clouds @ 10,000ft; Broken clouds @ 13,000ft; Broken clouds @ 25,000ft • Temperature: 28.3°C/83°F • Dewpoint: 20.6°C/69°F • Pressure: 30.03" Hg/1,017mb

Anonymous

yep, our visibility is shit atm

Danny Beckett

!!weather jfk

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett KJFK: MVFR • Observed: 44 mins ago • Wind: 240°/WSW @ 11kts • Visibility: 10.0mi/16.09km • Sky (AGL): Broken clouds @ 1,700ft; Overcast @ 5,000ft • Temperature: 7.0°C/45°F • Dewpoint: 4.0°C/39°F • Pressure: 29.47" Hg/998mb

Danny Beckett

17:48

JFK's improved - visibility was 0.0mi earlier

Anonymous

there was a huge wild fire

Anonymous

and all smoke went into our small santiago valley

Anonymous

and now we are all drowning in smoke, like beijing

Danny Beckett

"like Beijing", lol!

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz ...so is there a local airport where I can actually see a METAR reporting FU? :)

Danny Beckett

17:49

!!metar scl

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett SCEL: 061700Z 16009KT 120V210 CAVOK 31/11 Q1012 NOSIG

Anonymous

@voretaq7 i don't think so... the fire was yesterday and smoke is now smog

voretaq7

FU BS . . . wait, is the weather station reporting smoke and snow, or is it making a commentary on the state of the government? :)

3

Anonymous

lol

Anonymous

aipchile.gob.cl/metar/SCEL

Anonymous

17:53

interesting Chilean IFIS service

Anonymous

you even get a webcam

Anonymous

and stats on int'l and nat'l landings/take offs/overfights

voretaq7

grrr argh fucking internet I want to compose a question but every other packet I send down the wire gets eaten by a grue!

Anonymous

17:56

but i don't trust this system to be audited, so maybe you could hack into it and make your own flight plan!

Anonymous

woah i didn't even know there was a live feed of the control tower's frequency

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz liveatc.net

Anonymous

yep

Anonymous

!!weather SCTB

Otto the Autopilot

18:02

@PatoSáinz No METAR data could be found within the last 24 hours for SCTB! Check you typed the correct 3-letter IATA or 4-letter ICAO airport code.

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett your bot's crazy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eulogio_S%C3%A1nchez_Airport

voretaq7

hah - @lnafziger gave me an excuse to link to this :P

Anonymous

!!wiki Eulogio Sánchez Airport

Otto the Autopilot

Eulogio Sánchez Airport

Eulogio Sánchez Airport () , also known as Tobalaba Airport, is a private airport located in La Reina, Santiago, Chile. It is two-thirds owned by the Club Aéreo de Santiago and one-third owned by the Club Aéreo de Carabineros de Chile. The airport is on the eastern edge of the Santiago metropolitan area. It was constructed in 1954 and named for the then-president of the Club Aéreo de Santiago, Eulogio Sánchez Errazuriz. Its runways, taxiways and fueling platform are the only areas of the airport open to the public. External links * [http://www.aipchile.cl/designador/SCTB DGAC IFIS...

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz there is genuinely no weather data, click the link

Anonymous

18:05

@DannyBeckett aipchile.gob.cl/metar/SCTB

Anonymous

USA doesn't care about Chile's other not-really-big airports ;_;

Danny Beckett

oh wow, nice

egid

i'm unclear on how ADDS gets international weather actually

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett haha what's nice?

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz We barely care about our own not-really-big airports :P

Anonymous

18:06

@egid me neither

Anonymous

@voretaq7 ;_;

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz that ADDS doesn't like Chile... "nice", as in "not good"

Anonymous

@egid maybe the NSA leaks int'l thermostat data

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett yea that's nice

Anonymous

oh

Anonymous

18:07

lol

voretaq7

all the AWOS stations have an NSA back door? :)

egid

i mean... some of what's in there is pretty obscure

!!weather BIAR

Otto the Autopilot

@egid BIAR: MVFR • Observed: 8 mins ago • Wind: 350°/N @ 12kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Sky (AGL): Scattered clouds @ 900ft; Broken clouds @ 1,600ft; Overcast @ 3,100ft • Temperature: 1.0°C/34°F • Dewpoint: 0.0°C/32°F • Pressure: 28.97" Hg/981mb

egid

then again i guess we had a military presence in Iceland for 40 or so years

Danny Beckett

it has Svalbard on there too

(near enough the North Pole, owned by Norway)

!!weather ensb

Otto the Autopilot

18:08

@DannyBeckett ENSB: VFR • Observed: 18 mins ago • Wind: 110°/ESE @ 20kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Sky (AGL): Few clouds @ 2,000ft • Temperature: -15.0°C/5°F • Dewpoint: -20.0°C/-4°F • Pressure: 30.12" Hg/1,020mb

Anonymous

i'm listening into the control tower feed... god it's a polite and mannered operation (also, some shitty english)

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz you should listen to FRG. It's probably fucking dead

Anonymous

@voretaq7 FRG?

voretaq7

"It's raining. We're basically playing flight-strip 5-card poker with yesterdays flight plans."

Anonymous

loool

Anonymous

18:11

!!weather SCCI

Otto the Autopilot

@PatoSáinz SCCI: MVFR • Observed: 11 mins ago • Wind: 280°/W @ 30kts • Visibility: 4.97mi/8.0km • Sky (AGL): Broken clouds @ 2,300ft • Temperature: 8.0°C/46°F • Dewpoint: 4.0°C/39°F • Pressure: 29.17" Hg/988mb

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz liveatc.net/search/?icao=KFRG

Internet! Stop making me have to click "retry" 5 times to post a message! Y U SO TERRIBLE!

egid

stop spamming ;P

voretaq7

oh right, rain.

egid

the algorithm deems you abusive

voretaq7

18:12

@egid no, it's timing out because of the... <looks> 25% packet loss we're experiencing right now

Anonymous

@voretaq7 i'll tune into the tower

Anonymous

but... the shit radio quality plus+english accent is hard bro

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz the radio quality for FRG is really good - I think Steve put the antenna on top of the flight school's hangar :-)

Anonymous

steve?

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 just on chat?

Anonymous

18:15

also yea it's better than what i've heard in other places

voretaq7

one of the instructors where I train is the guy who set up the feed for Republic

Danny Beckett

I had the exact same problem before and reported it to MSO.. didn't hear back

3

Q: Experiencing major packet loss and timeouts on chat.stackoverflow.com

I've been trying to diagnose the problem in the JavaScript chat room; the transcript is here (the messages from then on, between myself and @OctavianDamiean): The long and short of it is that I'm getting major packet loss only on chat.stackoverflow.com. When I do a tracert, after getting the 3r...

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett no, in general. I'm seeing 5-30% packet loss to our ISP's router

Danny Beckett

ah ok... even worse

Anonymous

chat.stackoverflow? isn't that a whole server apart

Anonymous

18:16

it shouldn't be a problem that affected us

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz Different box, same cabinet (same network)

Danny Beckett

^

Anonymous

ok

Danny Beckett

I wouldn't be suprised if it was the same box either

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett btw tips on getting more rep? lol

Danny Beckett

18:17

gonna look it up (there's a list of servers)

@PatoSáinz answers are worth the most rep... 10 per upvote

that and bounties, but there are none so far on here

voretaq7

unless they moved one of them permanently to the DR site, I know things were split up and all over the place when they were moving the datacenter but I think it's all generally sorted now

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett you didn't get me quite right... i meant, sites that sell sockpuppet accounts that upvote you infinitely

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett we don't seem to need bounties yet - everything is pretty much getting answered within a day or two (except some really esoteric stuff that I don't think anyone knows anything about yet)

Danny Beckett

@PatoSáinz yeah that'll get you banned quite quickly...

Anonymous

@voretaq7 true

voretaq7

18:19

like regs for operating drones in India

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett just joking... i'm a good netizen

Anonymous

2

Q: Has the FAA ever granted anybody a license honoris causa?

Say, anybody who made an outstanding contribution to technology, flight methodologies, etc (for example, the Wright Brothers); has the FAA ever issued a license (private pilot, etc.) to anyone that deserved such honor?

faa faa-approval

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 looks like chat is all on OR-SQL01, per:

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz If I had a functional internet connection I'd look to see how the CAA handled licensing all the people who were already flying :P

Danny Beckett

78

Q: How much bandwidth does SE eat up?

I recently saw this image posted in an answer on Meta by @Nick Craver ♦: I'm interested to know how much bandwidth (in total GB/TB) gets used on average each month for such a large site, and on which services? (IIS/SQL split + any other servers)

discussion support statistics bandwidth

voretaq7

18:20

@DannyBeckett "Not a lot" actually

Anonymous

@voretaq7 can't you use your phone w/3g?

voretaq7

most of the heavy stuff is served by SE's CDN, and all the post images are through imgur

Anonymous

@voretaq7 sneaky

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 43 terabytes per month isn't a lot?!

BITCH u craaaazy!

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett nah

Anonymous

18:22

just ask the NSA

Danny Beckett

ahahahahahaha

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett not when you consider how much traffic Stack Overflow gets

and per that answer only about a third of that is actually being 'served' from SE's network

Danny Beckett

yeah

more like half, but yeah

18.5+2.2+6=26.7

voretaq7

I don't count their VPN traffic because it doesn't need to go over their internet links

they could buy dark fiber to the off-site facilities

Danny Beckett

> One last item for those still paying attention: Most of the bandwidth is still internal. Over the same 30 days our core switches went through 586,157,817,892,376 bytes of traffic.

voretaq7

18:26

but it works out to be a little over half actually excluding those

Danny Beckett

I calculate that to 533TB/month :|

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett about. But nobody cares what your internal core is doing as long as it's not falling down :-)

Danny Beckett

half a petabyte of data is a metric shit ton

voretaq7

it's a little under 13GB/sec

naively averaged out over 30 days

Danny Beckett

(btw that's my most upvoted question across the network)

Anonymous

18:46

I just hit 300 rep across the SE network!

Anonymous

yay

egid

:D

Anonymous

lol

Anonymous

hacker news is still down

Anonymous

i'm getting anxious

voretaq7

18:55

I just want to upload a png file

goddamit internet

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