your avatar fits that message perfectly

That avatar fits my life-attitude well.

@abelenky Sheesh! This guy needs a therapist, not a flight sim!!

+1 Thats what I've been saying.

Not that I'm going to answer his question, but I did do airlinecaptainforaday.com simulator. (after I had my license)

The sim was set up on short final, stabilized approach, good conditions, and I'm guessing a low weight.

I really didn't have to do much more than manage the throttles and rudder for a 1 minute, then flare when the instructor told me to.

So, no.... I don't think one day of sim would help anyone land. Even in perfect conditions, the momentum that delays the effect of inputs was substantial.

I was considering posting an answer to say that they basically walk you through it and tell you what to do when you need to do it, but I don't think answering the question will help at this stage.

The real answer is to get a CPL and keep a current type rating in the aircraft he will be riding in. Anything less than that gets increasingly risky. Obviously it's easier to take the suggested therapy/classes, or just avoid flying, rather than going to this much trouble to prepare for a situation that will almost certainly never happen.

Is anyone aware of any case, anywhere, where a pax on a commercial flight, with anything less than a CFII, has been of any assistance in the cockpit?

It's too bad. I think the question he asks could be somewhat interesting, for aviation enthousiasts who just wonder if it's worth the price. But his motivations make answering them just silly. The real downside to these questions I see is that future questions that she genuinely interesting may be closed as a dupe of these.

Although it remains to be seen if one can ask a good on topic question about a simulator fun day out (especially given the extensive descriptions on their website)

@abelenky The answers in this question do not mention any such occasions. I should think they would if it happened.

Is this what rime icing looks like?

Shapewise, yes, that could be rime icing, but I never saw brown rime ice, although could it be that the color is from the underlying surface?

@Terry Actually, I just took that photo. It's the side of my truck from going down the road. The brown is gravel dust mixed in

I googled "rime icing". Several pics there. I picked the above because it shows, I think, that they inflated the boots to get it off, and that often doesn't do much. My guess they inflated them too soon, a common mistake.

Hmm, where are you?

@Terry It's odd that the little bumps go into the airflow. I would expect the opposite

@Terry Eastern Kansas. Been freezing rain all day

Possibly it's mixed rime and freezing rain?

@Terry It's been back and forth between freezing rain and sleet. Plus the muddy mist thrown up by my tires. Does rime form from already frozen droplets?

Rime can have interesting shapes. I couldn't find an image of it, but sometimes it would project out from the leading edge but have like almost a channel along the very leading edge.

Rime is formed, as I understand it, from very small super-cooled water (not frozen) that, when it hits a surface, instantly freezes, whereas freezing rain is super-cooled butmuch larger drops.

If you're in an airplane and getting rime, one strategy is to climb until it's cold enough that the moisture is not super-cooled droplets, but has frozen and thus will deflect off the aircraft surface.

@Terry Makes sense. I wouldn't want to see this stuff on a wing of any plane I'm in! Looks like serious flow disruption

This ice today is unusual. Forming strange shapes. You should see the weird little winglet thing that has formed off of my mud flaps

@Terry So if you run the deice boot too soon and get that gap in there what can you do about it?

yeah, we got similar looking icing on the ground over here @TomMcW -- interestingly enough -- rime on the ground isn't nearly as hazardous as clear ice on the ground, tends to be kinda crunchy atop the knobbiness giving you more traction than a clear glaze does

@Shalvenay All the forward-facing surfaces on my truck have a nice, glassy, clear layer of ice. It's only on the sides, where the surface is parallel to the airflow, that give weird bumps are formed. Now they kind of look like teeth. They're about an inch long projecting about 45° forward into the air stream

@TomMcW huh.