The Hangar

Danny Beckett

4:00 AM

ah fair enough ;)

btw is this the "new" office?

wanna post the link to meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/180618/…

11

Q: Photos of the new office

I just listened to podcast 47 and heard about your new hexagonal offices, team spaces, ping-pong tables, arcade machines, and walk-in refrigerator. I just wondered if you can post some photos up, for the curious?

voretaq7

@BretCopeland Priorities: He has them straight.

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 then that's possible. I'll have to ask someone.

voretaq7

1) Coffee
2) Repeat until urge to stab users passes :)

I miss the job where my office was literally a cage in a basement.

Bret Copeland

We have an industrial grade espresso machine. It apparently cost like $10,000. Everyone is very proud of it.

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 I worked in the Red Light District of Amsterdam... there are a few places like that there too ;)

voretaq7

4:02 AM

(the network/computing facilities were on a midlevel basement floor where the fiber came in. To get to them you went through a man-trap of two steel cage doors)

Bret Copeland

maps.google.com/…

I don't drink coffee.

Danny Beckett

3 mins ago, by Danny Beckett

btw is this the "new" office?

voretaq7

Best part of that job: cutting out the door controller when newbies were in there and making them monkey-dance for bananas before we'd let them out.

Worst part of that job: I was not the one who started the monkey dance tradition, it predated me.

Bret Copeland

@DannyBeckett yes.

Danny Beckett

cheers :)

voretaq7

4:04 AM

@BretCopeland . . . 0_o ::backs away slowly:: what....what's wrong with you?!

do you drink tea?

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 yeah, though not a lot, and generally herbal.

I'm not really into caffeine.

voretaq7

@BretCopeland . . . <not sure if trust>

Bret Copeland

It just gives me a headache and I've never found it much of an energy boost.

voretaq7

uncaffeinated developer. Very dangerous. don't stick hands in cage.

Bret Copeland

nor do I generally need an energy boost. You know what time I go into work most days?

noon.

Danny Beckett

4:07 AM

@BretCopeland burn it with fire!

voretaq7

@BretCopeland well if you're one of those oddly-caffeine-sensitive people....

@BretCopeland I usually get in some time between 10 and 11, and leave around 7 or whenever I finish the shit I need to accomplish that day to be within spitting distance of "on schedule" with my projects

Bret Copeland

I get up, walk two blocks, arrive just in time for lunch, then play ping pong with team members until about 1:30, then start real work.

voretaq7

and since I basically built our environment things rarely-if-ever break so unless I'm working on a big project most of the work I do is researching infrastructure improvements :)

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 and hanging out in The Hangar.

voretaq7

yeah I get in, get coffee, bullshit with our support and QA folks, do some work, hang out on SE chat, do some more work, bullshit with the developers, do some more work, and then it's time to go home :P

@BretCopeland chat is great because it can be async'd -- if I have actual work to do I just turn off the boink sound and ignore chat for hours :)

Danny Beckett

4:10 AM

@voretaq7 you can just type !!afk

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 that's the theory behind our internal chat too.

Danny Beckett

it sends a reply to anyone trying to ping you

and doesn't ping you until you're back

voretaq7

@BretCopeland as it should be. Same with email

Bret Copeland

I got like 30 emails today. Ridiculous.

voretaq7

I check email about 3 times a day - when I get in, right after lunch, and about 20 minutes before I leave

Bret Copeland

4:11 AM

They were all notifications for various things.

voretaq7

and on my phone but that's usually just making me aware I have mail in my work box

@BretCopeland most of the email I get is industry shit that I actually have to read, but isn't urgent. I usually get 2-3 a day that I actually have to respond to

which reminds me I need to email a vendor and set up an actual phone call

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 I usually get zero that I have to respond to. Which is also, incidentally, about how many I do respond to.

voretaq7

I feel so 1980s

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 My dad worked on front-end processors in the 80's. Phone calls aren't so bad.

voretaq7

@BretCopeland they're not bad at all - it's with a (medical-end) hardware vendor whose stuff we're looking to integrate into our product, so it's basically an engineering meeting (except their engineering staff is in Oregon, so instead of doing it in a conference room we use phones)

I just dislike phone calls because they're serial. I can't really take a phone call AND do other things.

I can read/reply to email/chat/etc. in pieces and get other stuff done

Bret Copeland

4:17 AM

We use google hangout for all our "meetings" and other would-be phone calls.

voretaq7

@BretCopeland I have mixed feelings on that - lots of advantages, a few disadvantages

Bret Copeland

It's a step up from phones.

voretaq7

I'd use it more if other people supported it

@BretCopeland only because it has video

Bret Copeland

and it's easier to bring in several parties on a conference than a normal phone call.

but yeah, everyone needs at least a computer mic, and preferably a webcam.

voretaq7

@BretCopeland our phone system has a conference bridge built in - so I just tell everyone to call my extension, and do a bridge-add

(only limit is 5 people, because we have 7 active lines and I don't want to tie them all up)

Bret Copeland

4:20 AM

do you have to dial *7#553*0[hangup]#0 and if you do it in the wrong order it disconnects and temporarily bans you from the phone network?

because that's what I think of when I think of phone conference systems.

Or perhaps ↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

voretaq7

@BretCopeland no, I have to dial *19, it gives me a number (usually "one", sometimes "two" if someone else is using the conference beast). Then when people call in I transfer them to *19#1

I can also do it from the web GUI on the phone server

Danny Beckett

Is it Asterisk?

voretaq7

yup

the conference bit is some custom hackery

Danny Beckett

nice

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 I've never heard of this "GUI". You must be from the future.

Danny Beckett

4:23 AM

always wanted to setup an Asterix box

voretaq7

it's based on the conference bridge thing you can get from a lot of the free PBX implementations though

@BretCopeland The phone system this one replaced was a "Job Security" system (Avaya Partner Messaging System. You want to do ANYTHING? Call Avaya. $300/hr.)

$300. PER. HOUR. MY billing rate isn't that high (unless I really hate the client)

Danny Beckett

I was employed to break into people's PBX's... fun job

all to get DDI's for big wigs

voretaq7

heh

nobody in my company wants a Direct Line

Danny Beckett

i.e. get their box to respond to requests for directory listings by coercing it by pressing things like *0 over and over

voretaq7

(well actually all of the execs did. Until they experienced life with an automated attendant screening their calls. Now they wouldn't want to live without Perky Voicemail Lady.)

Danny Beckett

4:26 AM

there are a few backdoors into common systems to the main menu (bypassing the IVR)

voretaq7

I really want to license the AT&T Text-to-Speech system

Danny Beckett

used to have a list of the codes

voretaq7

but hiring a voice actress occasionally when we need to change menu options is cheaper :P

Danny Beckett

nooooo

you want this:

acapelabox.com

cheap, awesome, sounds great, tons of voices, and if something's pronounced wrong you can alter it

oh there's a hyphen

acapela-box.com

any time I do audio stuff for clients, that's what I use

voretaq7

4:48 AM

@DannyBeckett I think AT&T Research has you beat :)

albeit with less voices available publicly

apple's Text-to-Speech voices are pretty good too

I might wire up an old Mac Mini or something just to do TTS :)

the voice actress we hired last time was absolutely awesome though - nice neutral southwest/midwest accent, and she basically did full read-throughs until she was happy with the way the clips sounded when we strung them together. (Downside: Any time we change a clip we basically need to do the whole thing again so it all sounds natural when it's cut together)

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 for non-commerical use it says though

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett you can license the same technology through AT&T commercially

Danny Beckett

ah ok!

ok I'm off for the night, seeya guys

Stack Exchange

5:04 AM

0

Q: Should "call up the FSDO" be regarded as an answer?

I was taking a look at the following answer, which said: Call up your local FSDO (that's the acronym for the FAA's Flight Standards District Office) and ask them. Go to the source! Now this could be a reply for almost anything regulatory-related, but sometimes isn't very useful. Should thes...

discussion low-quality answers

voretaq7

5:29 AM

@Qantas94Heavy you beat me to that Meta question :)

egid

5:44 AM

I'm not sure I agree with @Falk that "Wikipedia is not a real source", especially for simple concepts. Thoughts?

(From aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/716/…)

When it comes to aviation in particular I feel that Wikipedia is often at least as good as non-communal sources.

voretaq7

@egid Wackypedia is a "source of variable quality"

if the information there is of good quality (and adequate primary sources are cited) I see no problem with using it

if the primary sources they reference are accessible enough citing them may be a better idea

egid

NASA K-12 it is as a replacement grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/geom.html

voretaq7

LOL

actually I think that's a better explanation than the one on Wikipedia :-)

AND it has a cool (albeit Java) widget you can play with! YAY TOYS!

Qantas 94 Heavy

5:59 AM

WHO DARED TO MENTION THAT DESPICABLE NAME

voretaq7

@Qantas94Heavy you would prefer maybe.... FLASH?

Alternate response: NASA! IT WAS ALL NASA'S FAULT! CUT THEIR BUDGET AGAIN! HERE! USE MY BOLT CUTTERS TO SLICE THE PENNY IN HALF!

egid

@Qantas94Heavy nasa?

SE seems to think I have things to review all the time

voretaq7

@egid flags stick

@egid also can I say that motor gliders freak me out

some of them are more capable than my Cherokee :P

egid

@voretaq7 I'll allow it.

Stack Exchange

Aviation Mentor: A Few Recent Photos

posted on January 08, 2014 by John Ewing

Haven't had time to do much photography lately. Or maybe I just haven't been motivated? Anyway, after a long dry spell, here are some recent flying sights I've seen. These used to be colorful salt evaporation ponds, now they're wetlands. This time of year, these hills would normally be emerald green. Persistent high pressure has kept rains away ... Over Mammoth Not much sn…

voretaq7

6:10 AM

actually to be fair: IFR motor gliders freak me out

the whole concept of "Yeah, center, I'mma take this glider through some clouds" - just O_O

roe

7:47 AM

@voretaq7 :) Is that when you simply let everything go, hope the aircraft is stable enough to remain (and return to) wings level? And hope that this particular cumulus cloud is not of the granite type..

voretaq7

@roe There are apparently IFR equipped motor-gliders (VOR/GS Nav radio and everything) - I've not looked too deeply into them, but as best I can tell there's nothing that prohibits you from operating a properly-equipped glider on an IFR flight plan in IMC... though perhaps one should not be ridge soaring in such an instance.

roe

Yeah, motor-gliders can be quite powerful too. I was just imagining the non-motor kind shooting an ILS to minimums... ;)

roe

11:20 AM

@BretCopeland That must be the most widely known cheat-code in history, with iddqd coming in as a close second..

/me is scrolling through the backbuffer...

/me doesn't work here, eh?

Anonymous

12:14 PM

@roe of course it doesn't, this ain't irc

Anonymous

> You've earned the "Popular Question" badge for What materials are plane windows made of?. See your profile.

Anonymous

oh yea

Stack Exchange

12:29 PM

This Day in Aviation: 8 January 1944

posted on January 08, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

8 January 1944: At Muroc Army Air Field (later to become Edwards Air Force Base), Lockheed’s chief engineering test pilot, Milo Garrett Burcham, took the XP-80 Shooting Star, serial number 44-83020, for its first flight. A few minor problems caused Burcham to end the flight after approximately five minutes, but these were quickly resolved […] The post 8 January 1944 appeared…

roe

@PatoSáinz Neither are a lot of platforms, but they usually copy the concept. Even Skype does, for example

I was just outside for lunch, and man it's 60°F/15°C. In frickin' january.

Anonymous

12:47 PM

lol

Anonymous

nice

Anonymous

it's 22ºC here

Anonymous

already

Anonymous

and it's just 9:47 AM

roe

yeah, but you're in Chile right? That's on the summer side of the globe.. :)

Anonymous

12:49 PM

yep

roe

@PatoSáinz: you like it there?

Anonymous

has anyone ever been in a boeing dreamliner?

Anonymous

@roe i don't like heat much but...

Anonymous

I like that I live in a place where we have mediterranean weather

Anonymous

meaning we get something like italy, four seasons, wine

Anonymous

12:54 PM

and sometimes snow

Anonymous

like, two days a year

roe

what's it like, general aviation wise, lot's of bureaucratic hoops?

Anonymous

@roe sadly, i'm just another passenger, nothing special so i wouldn't know

Anonymous

i've got a pilot friend tho, but and he told me the takeoff process is boring (but he's untidy and doesn't care about security nor anything, instead, i'd enjoy talking with ATC via radio)

Anonymous

so i think it's even more relaxed than in america

Anonymous

12:57 PM

and probably it is

roe

Cool. Do you need a license to talk to ATC, or could you do that as a passenger?

Crash: LAM E190 over Botswana/Namibia on Nov 29th 2013 That's pretty messed up.

Anonymous

@roe well, tecnically, if you weren't a pilot and ATC didn't mind you should get a radio amateur license to talk with them over radio haha, and as an average joe passenger, nah of coure you don't get to talk with the ATC

Anonymous

actually, i should research that

Anonymous

dgac.gob.cl/portalweb/dgac

roe

I meant passenger on a G/A flight, not an airliner :)

Anonymous

1:01 PM

this is our FAA (Civile Aeronautics General Direction)

Anonymous

@roe G/A flight?

roe

general aviation

Anonymous

oh ty

Anonymous

yea probably the same applies

Anonymous

@roe: dgac.gob.cl/portalweb/dgac/Usuarios/pilotos/…

Anonymous

1:02 PM

license for alumn pilot

Anonymous

so, if i wanted to be a pilot, and i'm underage, i should get consent from my tutor/legal counselor/parents

Anonymous

have finished nineth-twelveth grade

Anonymous

have gone through a medical exam and having a certificate from your flying school

Anonymous

hmm... that's not so harsh

roe

That's pretty standard. I speak four languages, unfortunately Spanish (i take it?) isn't one of them. Does it say anything about air-traffic-radio license?

I'm curious, because Germany requires one, but I don't know if any other country does.

Anonymous

1:06 PM

@roe nothing, let me check with SUBTEL (gov't department for telecommunications) about it

Anonymous

@roe there's isn't an specific license for air-traffic-radio

Anonymous

you can get a normal one tho chileatiende.cl/fichas/ver/3838

roe

ok, cool, thanks

Anonymous

well, apart from monetary and time needs (and obvious flying skills), apparently it's easy to get a license in Chile

Anonymous

you still need years of preparation to be in an airline tho

Anonymous

1:11 PM

wait WHAT

Anonymous

@roe alumn pilot license costs you $26 dollars

Anonymous

that's dirty cheap

Anonymous

dgac.gob.cl/portalweb/dgac/informacion/tarifario

roe

and what would an "alumn pilot license" imply?

Anonymous

@roe apparently it's permission to fly in courses to be a private pilot

Anonymous

1:14 PM

aerosantamaria.cl/curso_piloto_privado.html

roe

oh, so a student pilot license?

Anonymous

yes

Anonymous

private pilot license costs $34 dollars

roe

I guess that's pretty standard for issuing the license. It's a little higher here; but even so it's really nothing compared to all the training.

Anonymous

true lol

Anonymous

1:17 PM

i'd love to get flight clases but... i don't have the eight grand it takes to

Anonymous

nor if i had it'd be my first priority

Anonymous

also @roe, wtf why does germany have a "air control radio amateur" license

Anonymous

why would a radio amateur need to contact ATC

roe

@PatoSáinz i don't know of an "air control radio amateur" license, there's an air traffic radio operators license, which you're required to have to operate the radios on air traffic frequencies, either in an aircraft or in an ATC ground facility. To qualify you need to take a test to show that you know basic phraseology and so on (like the differences between mayday and panpan). Actually there are two levels, one for VFR only operations, and one general (both VFR and IFR)

@PatoSáinz; but if you're interested in ATC, check out liveatc.net, where you can listen along to ATC from pretty much all over the world (except where it's illegal.. like in Germany and in the UK)

Anonymous

@roe it's illegal?!

Anonymous

1:32 PM

also yea i know the site

Anonymous

@roe what is the rationale for making it illegal

roe

@PatoSáinz Don't know really, personally, i think it's messed up. I think they consider it to be simply telecommunications, and listening in without being an intended recipient of a message would be considered wiretapping or something. I'm just speculating though.

Anonymous

atccommunication.com/radio-sim-access

Anonymous

heh nice

Anonymous

2:41 PM

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Q: Can Microsoft Flight Simulator help me learn to fly (or make me a better pilot)?

Microsoft Flight Simulator has "flight lessons" with a virtual flight instructor, some of which teach concepts that are taught during actual flight training. These simulators are becoming very realistic, and I can see them being helpful as an introduction to a subject prior to running the hobbs ...

flight-training flight-simulator flight-instructor

Anonymous

2:55 PM

psst @LNafziger

lnafziger

3:48 PM

@PatoSáinz Hey! What's up?

(I'm on my phone at the moment so may be slow to respond...

Anonymous

@lnafziger i saw you changed the capitalisation in your username... and you accepted to be a mod!

lnafziger

Yeah, too many people spell it with an I instead of an L, LOL.

Anonymous

@lnafziger but it looks more stylish without the L clarification :<

lnafziger

And yeah, I would like to be a mod. I will still help either way, but that helps a little. Thanks again for the nomination!

roe

@lnafziger; your profile says you used to be an engineer, at what age did you get your CPL if I may ask?

lnafziger

4:04 PM

I got it at either 28 or 29. I forget which, lol.

I started flying as a hobby.

roe

nice

I'm 31, trying to figure out if i still can go that route.

lnafziger

sure, but it depends on your goal. Give me a shout sometime later on when I'm not on my phone and we can talk about it a little bit more. I got really lucky!

roe

Sure, I'll catch you later. My goal would in that case be pretty much anything but the airlines, I suppose. Commuter, freight or corporate like yourself.

DeltaLima

4:29 PM

!!metar EHAM

!!weather JFK

called2voyage

@DeltaLima The bot's not on right now.

It's attached to Danny Beckett so he has to be logged in for the bot to run.

DeltaLima

@called2voy Ok, I was just wondering how it worked

called2voyage

both of those commands would work if the bot was logged in

DeltaLima

ok, I'll try again when Danny is back

Thanks

How do you create a bot? Does he have special rights to create one?

called2voyage

Anyone can create a bot I believe. It runs on your own computer. I haven't really looked into creating one myself.

You might be able to find out more here: stackapps.com

DeltaLima

4:35 PM

Thanks, looks interesting!!

Stack Exchange

This Day in Aviation: 8 January 1973

posted on January 08, 2014 by Bryan Swopes

8 January 1973: Captain Paul D. Howman and First Lieutenant Lawrence W. Kullman, 4th Tactical Fighter Squadron, 432d Tactical Reconnaissance Wing, flying McDonnell F-4D-29-MC Phantom II 65-0796, were leading a flight of two fighters on combat air patrol in Route Pack III. Their call sign was CRAFTY ONE. A U.S. Navy cruiser, call sign RED CROWN, was […] The post 8 January 1973 appeared fir…

Anonymous

@called2voyage "the bot is attached to @DannyBeckett"

Anonymous

o_o

Anonymous

also, @DeltaLima github.com/Zirak/SO-ChatBot this is the bot

called2voyage

4:54 PM

@PatoSáinz As in the specific instance of the bot (Otto the Autopilot) that runs in here is run off of Danny's computer.

Anonymous

@called2voyage i know... but he's not attached to Danny

Anonymous

o_O

called2voyage

@PatoSáinz Not to his user, admittedly it was an imprecise way of stating it

Anonymous

sure

voretaq7

5:12 PM

@PatoSáinz hey, Otto's romantic entanglements are strictly off limits. You wouldn't want anyone to think he's a robosexual. If anyone asks, Danny is Otto's debugger :-)

2

Anonymous

lol

Anonymous

so Otto has crabs?

voretaq7

@PatoSáinz Why does everyone eat the fish?!

Fun Fact: I have an ex who refuses to eat fish because it's the only food-animal you order by species/class. You don't say "I'll have the mammal" or "I'll have the bird"...

called2voyage

@voretaq7 If I actually go to order fish, I very rarely don't say a more specific identifier than "fish". I would usually order tilapia, red snapper, salmon, etc.

Unless we're talking about something like a McDonald's fish sandwich

in which case you could argue that all McDonald's food is suspect to begin with

And some people do talk about "having a bird" if they are referring to chicken or turkey or duck.

Though I will agree that I have never heard anyone say "I'll have the mammal".

lnafziger

Yeah, I get concerned if a menu has "fish" as an item... What kind please???

Anonymous

5:30 PM

@lnafziger tuna

voretaq7

@called2voyage At least in New York the only time I'm used to hearing people refer to "having a bird" or "the bird" as a meal is goose or turkey around Christmas/Thanksgiving :)

egid

i... really don't like this answer :( aviation.stackexchange.com/a/748/39

voretaq7

and all McDonalds food is not suspect --- it's not food.

@egid I only really disagree with the first paragraph (the blanket no)

he kinda gives a nod to sims for procedure training (which is what I think they're really good for personally - I'm not much of a simulator-as-training fan)

egid

the thing is, he says no, then says yes

voretaq7

of course the last time I was in our flight school's simulator the thing tried to kill us (somehow its autopilot activated and selected an 1100FPM descent.... at about 600 feet as I was about to do a missed approach) so I'm a little biased against the fucker :-P

Fun Facts: In the Redbird FMX you can't "overpower the autopilot" -- you can pull the yoke all the way back to the stops, but it kinda ignores your input (and keeps trying to pull the yoke away from you. Stupid machine. <glares at Otto>)

egid

5:45 PM

for instrument training even old elite PCATDs are pretty good, but a non-full-motion sim isn't going to be very useful for private

especially if there's no wraparound view

voretaq7

@egid I don't think even a full-motion sim is going to be useful for primary training honestly

egid

well, Redbird begs to differ

voretaq7

flying an actual plane feels totally different

egid

and the numbers seem to imply that they're right ;)

voretaq7

@egid Redbird sells simulators :-P

egid

5:46 PM

and flight schools sell airplane hours :P

i admit that flight models are not very convincing

however

emergency training, some vfr maneuvers, etc

voretaq7

I think they're useful for the initial required instrument portion of your private training - I did like an hour in the sim learning to fly with a big gray wall in front of me

egid

those are all useful to private students

basically, @abelenky's answer is how i would have responded

voretaq7

Maybe for emergency training to get the flows down, but you can do that with a big ol' picture of your cockpit too

egid

that has a place too, but that's nowhere near the same as trying to fly the airplane while doing checklists

maybe it depends on the school; i did a ton of sim (frasca ATD) training at UND while working on instrument and commercial, and it was very beneficial

voretaq7

@egid for maneuvers I found the simulator to be so twitchy that it was hard to translate the skills back and forth (granted the first time I stepped into a sim was for an hour of instrument work as part of my private, and I was already used to how real planes flew...)

@egid oh I think they're great for instrument training - if for no other reason because you can pause & reset when you screw up

egid

5:50 PM

then the answer to the question is a resounding "yes"

voretaq7

it's like practicing music - you hit a part that's difficult, so you keep doing that over and over and over until you get it right, then you try the whole thing again until you hit the next hard part

egid

@lnafziger didn't ask the question specifically about private training

he asked about how simulators can benefit pilots

:)

voretaq7

I think @Pondlife and @Abelenky covered it pretty well - it's a useful tool like anything else

sims are like foggles - not quite as good as the real thing, but you'll get the general idea

egid

aka "yes", which is why i dislike Falk's answer!

Pondlife

My first instructor said his worst students were the ones who came with lots of MS sim time; they kept fixating on instruments instead of looking outside. But that doesn't mean they're a bad training tool, especially for IFR

And hello, by the way :-)

voretaq7

5:54 PM

@Pondlife My second lesson my instructor taped a sectional over the instruments about 500 feet off the ground and said I wasn't allowed to have them back until we were going back in to land :-P

egid

@Pondlife hello!

voretaq7

(which honestly is probably the best thing he could have done for me)

oh.. this isn't the pics-of-dogs chatroom?

egid

@voretaq7 you mean doges

voretaq7

Aww!

To clarify, spiders are not on-topic here. Ever

Pondlife

@voretaq7 Nice! I never had that happen although mine did turn off the fuel during one flight to see if I would go for the switch. He also popped the landing gear circuit breaker to see if I would notice that the gear didn't extend. Attitudes to liability are a little different in South Africa...

@egid Hello! I'm not sure what the dog is for, but whatever :-)

egid

5:58 PM

sorry. i come from the internets.

Danny Beckett

@called2voyage That's usually true if you run SO-ChatBot directly, but I've configured it to run on a server (with a few extra binaries)

So I don't need to be logged in for the bot to work

As for why it didn't reply to you, let me check

Because it's up

!!info

voretaq7

@Pondlife We had a not-quite-fire with one of the school's.... less-than-happy Cherokees once (the starter overheated & smoked a little) - my instructor called me after the mechanics looked at the plane and said "Hey, they figured out why it wouldn't fire - the fuel was off", when I told him that was me running the ground-fire checklist I got some odd looks, I think I might have been the only one who memorized that thing :-/

Aww!

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