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Gwideon

17:04

I'm really kinda tired of people misbehaving in comments

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose There will be ~~blood~~ more.

@Gwideon flag 'em.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch First rule of comments: there will always be more lol

NautArch

@Gwideon where's the misbehavior?

Gwideon

@NautArch I was just making a general comment

KorvinStarmast

@Rubiksmoose yeah

NautArch

17:18

@Gwideon Like answers/partial answers? Or rudeness?

KorvinStarmast

@Gwideon and the song we hear in the background is" 'ain't misbehavin' " :)

Gwideon

rudeness

Is there a song people just find kinda sad but also really beautiful?

Rubiksmoose

@Gwideon This is probably a very strange recommendation but the song the turrets sing at the end of Portal 2 is short and great and sad in the context of the game.

Xirema

So I updated my Sorcerer Tweak Homebrew to version 1.0, but my guess is that I'm probably going to split it into two different homebrews, one for the Sorcery Point Pool changes, and one for the Origin Metamagics.

Rubiksmoose

@Gwideon this one

Xirema

17:24

Anyone wanna offer critique of the Origin Metamagics, so I can get them to a state where they might be theoretically balanced (since I'm very skeptical that they're at that point right now...)?

Gwideon

@Rubiksmoose true. Um i'm kinda listening to the interstellar main theme and I'm getting those vibes off it

NautArch

@Gwideon I'm fairly certain that's a very big list :)

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch VtC: Too Broad

MikeQ

@Xirema 4 of the 5 options seem to just add some damage, is that intentional?

Yuuki

All of those metamagics affect damage only.

Well, healing for one.

Gwideon

17:28

also this may be dumb but this song in the context of the game it's from is really sad.

Yuuki

I had thought Shadow might do something with illusions or save DCs or something?

Carcer

square brackets on this, parentheses on the link

[word](link)

there you go

Xirema

If I ditch the SP Pool changes, that opens up a little design space.

@MikeQ Yes. There were a few other options I was considering, but they were all in the context of assuming that Sorcerers would use the revised sorcery point pool, so I couldn't offer anything that cost 3 points, which they would have needed to cost to justify the power.

Gwideon

sorry I'm not super familiar with this kinda stuff.

Carcer

no apologise

MikeQ

17:30

@Xirema My concern is that given how few sorcery points they'll have, those metamagics just don't seem like worthwhile options for spending them

Xirema

@MikeQ Even if the points are coming back on a short rest instead of a long rest? That's part of the pool changes (which, again, I'm considering decoupling)

Gwideon

Sorry I'm just pointing this out but the Destiny 2 soundtrack is just really freaking good in general

MikeQ

@Xirema Yes, because all the metamagics here depend on randomness. Moreso than other things. Except maybe the healing one, because the sorcerer gets to choose regardless of the initial rolls. If sorcery points are a more limited resource, I'd rather spend them on something reliable, which in this case is probably a low-level spell slot.

Rubiksmoose

@Gwideon I love a lot of VG soundtracks :)

Gwideon

@Rubiksmoose Same. Alot of them are just really freaking good and it makes me sad that they don't get as much respect or praise as something like movie soundtracks or other kinds of music

Xirema

17:36

@MikeQ Hmm. Noted. I'm not sure I agree that they become a more limited resource, since getting the same number of points they'd otherwise normally have at a given level requires only a single Short Rest per day. I've played in five-minute adventuring day campaigns before, and it's usually not that difficult to get at least a single Short Rest per day, in my experience.

MikeQ

Limited in that they will have fewer available at any given time, even when recharged

Xirema

@MikeQ Alright, that makes sense.

Gwideon

but um I will say this um there are a few soundtracks that hold a really special place in my heart

NautArch

I think I thought of a non-magical ridiculous answer to the 100m question.

Gwideon

and um the destiny soundtracks are some of those that hold that place. It's really good music and um I listened to those a lot during a particularly strange and hard part of my life.

MikeQ

17:39

@Xirema And point #2 as Yuuki mentioned, these options aren't providing much beyond slightly larger numbers, which isn't bad, but isn't very interesting either, especially as a high-level capstone

Gwideon

anyways i should probably go

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose The Way of Shadow Monk's teleport is non-magical, correct?

Xirema

@MikeQ Are you only looking at the level 3 options? Because there's also level 17 options, and those are doing a lot more than just damage.

(and the level 17 options, IMO, need much more attention)

MikeQ

@Xirema Ah, I misread that bit. Still, the point stands, they aren't providing much outside of what the sorcerer can already do.

Xirema

(Like, I've posted this thing in two different places, and nobody has called me out for how ill-conceived the Level 17 Wild Magic Metamagic is, which makes me think no one has read it...)

MikeQ

17:45

@Xirema That's a weird one. How are the random targets determined?

Xirema

@MikeQ By the DM. There's already entries on the Wild Magic table that read "a random target within X feet..." so there's precedent for that already without needing to explicitly write out how to handle it.

MikeQ

So the player spends a sorcery point, and the DM decides which creatures get targeted?

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch I believe so...

Someone_Evil

@MikeQ Well chance decides

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose I kinda want to post it, but it seems like a bad faith answer

Xirema

17:47

@MikeQ Within range of the target, but yes. "Random" means Random, the DM would need to roll a die or use some other trusted source of randomness.

"The DM decides" implies it's totally down to them, and although it literally is, it wouldn't follow the letter of the rules if the DM just says "well, it's most narratively appropriate if it targets the Paladin, so..."

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch heh, yeah it seems like it technically fits but definitely wouldn't be what is asked for.

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose although I'mnot sure how different it is from Step of the Wind.

other than definitely not magical

but it doesn't seem to really meet the requirements, but that's why clear requirements are necessary (and what folks don't think about.)

Sort of like the answers to damage questions that rely on unlikely events

Rubiksmoose

My interpretation is that actual movement over the whole distance should be necessary (teleportation would seem to not fit this since it lets you skip the space in between)

NautArch

@DavidCoffron I think I found your missing 2 feet if you're willing to use the shadow monk's teleport feature at level 6.

@Rubiksmoose Kinda. Rules are just point A->Point B.

And they are running nearly all of it, just using a class feature to finish

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch Ah, then teleportation does fit. I'm not sure that makes the answer bad faith honestly.

Xirema

17:55

The original version of Chained Spell targeted three random additional targets with its initial effect, but I dialed it back because I thought "even for me that's too far".

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose I'll see if @DavidCoffron wants to use it for theirs :)

@Rubiksmoose WOn't beat 7 levels, though.

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David Coffron

18:20

@NautArch Yay. My build relied on bonus action for Dash (Step of the Wind). With the step, you get an extra 10 feet out of it, beautiful. Just barely beats the goal

NautArch

@DavidCoffron Yours to use! I'm still on a self-imposed answer hiatus.

David Coffron

@NautArch Although it doesn't beat the 7 levels we have in other answers...

It puts me at 8

NautArch

Just remember setup is doing this in dim light :)

yeah, that 7 level one is really good

as others have said, still worth putting up answers that odn't beat 7

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch oh yeah? Why is that? (if it's not too nosy)

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose It hasn't been great for my mental health. I end up in a state of argument or a mental state argument that then bleeds over into real life.

Spending more time just in here or in trying to help folks narrow down or focus questions/answers.

Rubiksmoose

18:24

@NautArch Ah yeah. That makes complete sense. And I can definitely understand how that goes...

I hope it helps you :)

NautArch

ANd also noticing a swing back in terms of answer expectations that I"m not a huge fan of. So rather than fight against it, i'm just gonna step away from it.

Rubiksmoose

Makes sense. We all gotta do what we need to to keep ourselves mentally healthy

NautArch

Yup, and I'm having a jolly time just chatting with folks about things in here!

David Coffron

@NautArch Doesn't quite cut it. Since you only get one Action Surge, the Monk 6/Fighter 2 crosses the finish line at 9.63 seconds

NautArch

@DavidCoffron Includes Mobile feat?

and I assume you've got the monk at 45 movement?

David Coffron

18:40

This was my answer draft until I did the math

(correct to 3.63 seconds after the first 6)

NautArch

@DavidCoffron so you miss it by .05?

dang

Wait! Aren't the 60' moves costing zero time?

is there a way to incorporate that or no?

David Coffron

@NautArch Idk. Hard to consider

NautArch

@DavidCoffron It' almost like...we need round tracking?

David Coffron

When does the bonus action teleport come in. If it is during the first 0.1 seconds, then the time is 6.39 seconds

NautArch

@DavidCoffron Don't see why it couldn't be immediate

There's no time cost to it, it's just a bonus action? I dunno.

David Coffron

18:52

@NautArch I'll just post it: rpg.stackexchange.com/a/159182/41726

nitsua60

@NautArch Anyone else miss segments?

goodguy5

my aim is pretty good....

NautArch

@goodguy5 [i think] my aim is pretty good...

goodguy5

@NautArch it's not defined by the rules and, therefore, takes 1d4 seconds. (+str)

NautArch

@nitsua60 did AD&D have segments?

goodguy5

19:07

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NautArch

@goodguy5 I do not remember intiative tracking from back then. I just remember my shortsword of backstabbing.

Gwideon

19:37

hello

Black Spike

19:56

hi all

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Q: How can a Human Druid achieve expert proficiency with a weapon?

It would be nice to have a feat for that, but I could not find any. I would prefer a procedure that works for any weapon, but more limited solutions are also welcome.

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David Coffron

20:33

@HotRPGQuestions Could you imagine Expertise on weapons in D&D 5e? Sharpshooter and Great Weapon Master would be even more broken

NautArch

@DavidCoffron SS/GWM definitely seem broken in comparison to other things.

I mean, i'll make builds with them, but sheesh.

David Coffron

@NautArch Yeah -5/+10 is not a balanced tradeoff; especially with good teamwork to achieve advantage

NautArch

@DavidCoffron and bless/magic items

David Coffron

You end up with a 25% less chance to hit, for a 100% damage buff

(on average)

with advantage its 18% less chance to hit for the same damage buff

NautArch

and that -5 as we've said is fairly easy to mitigate

And for builds with multiple attacks, that stacks up

goodguy5

20:37

I almost wish you could double (or triple) down on the -5 +10 mechanic

"I'm going to take a -15 to hit, but I get +30 damage"

David Coffron

Then you compare that to Elemental Adept which provides a 15% damage buff

15% vs 50% (the net benefit of SS/GWM without mitigating attack bonuses)...?

~65% damage buff with advantage

NautArch

and there still may be immunities to consider there

where ss/gwm doesn't

David Coffron

right. A magic weapon bypasses almost all of the immunities to be concerned with for SS and GWM. No such options exist for Elemental Adept

nitsua60

@NautArch At least one of them--I can't remember if it's both.

David Coffron

21:04

@NautArch Might want to link to this in your recent comment:

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Q: Why does dandwiki have a poor reputation?

Dandwiki has a markedly poor reputation in the online RPG community; material from it is often dismissed out of hand, and users are encouraged to avoid it and to not incorporate work posted there into their games. For what reasons has the site gained this reputation?

dungeons-and-dragons online-resources

NautArch

@DavidCoffron good call, added it.

@DavidCoffron Can someone survive on honey alone?

Yuuki

> Belt of Fire Immunity. Before taking any fire damage, you die before damage is applied to your hit points and then your corpse bursts into flame.

Technically, the belt killed you not the fire.

David Coffron

21:21

@Yuuki You burn your finger on a candle, and you erupt into flame D:

Xirema

@NautArch If you rotate between Beer, Honey, and Mayonnaise, you'll at least hit all your macronutrients, though you'll definitely be low on protein.

NautArch

@Xirema Not sure how keen i'd be on eating mayo that' been outside for a few hours, never mind a few days.

Xirema

(AKA three liquids that can be produced by an Alchemy Jug in semi-large quantities...)

NautArch

and low protein for an active person would definitely start causing a problem.

But this is also generally why tracking food is problematic

Sir Cinnamon

Disadvantage on all charisma checks - you smell like beer and mayonnaise all the time

Xirema

21:27

Hmm, Mayonnaise does contain eggs in it, that should help with the protein a little?

Why do all these Macronutrient tracking sites keep saying it has 0% protein? That can't be right.

NautArch

@Xirema it'll also go bad

Mark Wells

Isn't it just egg yolks?

That's almost no protein

Xirema

@MarkWells Ah, there's the problem.

David Coffron

Should we post a question on the Medical Sciences Stack?

Sir Cinnamon

Google says mayonnaise is about 1% protein

Mark Wells

21:29

A pint of beer is supposedly around 1 gram of protein, though it varies a lot

Xirema

Actually, Egg Yolks are still about 20% protein by calorie count. That's not bad.

But yeah, if Mayo is like 90% oil and 10% egg, that gets diluted pretty quickly.

Sir Cinnamon

As a DM I wouldnt allow this as it's an abuse of game mechanics (in my eyes) that detracts from roleplay, and as a player i wouldnt participate in this because it's effing gross

David Coffron

@SirCinnamon For me it depends on the setting. If part of the campaign has to do with survival, I'd certainly try to limit its function. If its just an interesting way for the characters to get around poor wisdom scores, and the focus isn't on survival it seems fine

Xirema

Oh, so I guess that question is a bit of an (unintentional, on the part of the OP) XY Problem: the DM has accepted the premise that a party of that size can, in fact, survive using only the Alchemy Jug indefinitely, and is looking for a way to reinstate the survival mechanics they're trying to enforce without just taking the item away. It's not a question about whether the rules actually permit the item to serve this purpose.

Hmmmm.

Sir Cinnamon

@Xirema Oh absolutely, I love the rules lawyer-y speculation and breakdowns we get to do here. It's great fun

Xirema

21:39

@SirCinnamon Well, I thought that was the point of the question. >_<

I think I actually agree with the POB issue then. A question like this probably needs to propose a mechanic and ask for feedback, rather than just ask for a mechanic.

Sir Cinnamon

@DavidCoffron Well yeah I suppose im imagining players who are in a town and going "My player opts to eat a gallon of mayo to save 5 copper on rations because this is a video game and food is food" and not "I'm lost in a desert with nothing to eat but mayonnaise"

Gwideon

I kinda wish i was actually Claude right now. I'd be able to be so freaking charming instead of the awkward mess that I am.

Sir Cinnamon

@Xirema Yeah it's a multi stage question basically; "Is there any nutrition requirement enforced by the rules [that would prevent living off of X/Y/Z]" and then "How can I make one"

Xirema

Although I guess the question I have to ask is, if you know you're running a survival campaign, why let the party get access to a Jug of Alchemy, an item whose purpose can only ever be to circumvent these kinds of mechanics.

And furthermore, what's your plan when the party reaches level 5, and the spellcasters with access to third-level spell slots are just going to trivialize all survival mechanics forever indefinitely anyways?

Sir Cinnamon

@Xirema "I have to ask... if you know you're running a survival campaign... why..?"

survival just isnt a well established mechanic in 5e, i think having it as a central theme will NEVER be fun without significant homebrew rules

such a loosely established mechanic there is a single skill called "survival" so you can reduce your interaction with it to a single roll

David Coffron

21:46

I asked about the nutrition stuff on MS.SE. It didn't seem to be against their guidelines, and the chat isn't very active, so I didn't think it would be worth asking there.

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Q: Can a person survive off of a diet alternating daily between mayonnaise, honey, beer, and wine?

Suppose an individual has a device which can produce one of a number of liquids, each day in particular quantities: Given these specific foods, drinks, and quantities could 4-5 people survive for extended periods of time? Assume that the people have no refrigeration for the purposes of storage...

nutrition

Only concern I have is the:

> You should only ask practical, answerable questions based on actual problems that you face.

nitsua60

@DavidCoffron Is the jug the only fresh water source that the people have?

David Coffron

It might get closed.

@nitsua60 No, I should clarify

nitsua60

@DavidCoffron "A character's life hangs in the balance!"

@DavidCoffron Yeah--I think that would pretty quickly get us to "you need to use it only for water in order not to dehydrate, and the nutritional content of water's pretty slim."

Xirema

Does anyone have a link to the "discussing with your players what kind of game you want to play" guide? I want to reference that in the edit I'm making to my answer.

Just as a "make sure your players intend to play the same kind of game you're playing" aside.

David Coffron

@Xirema I know Rubiksmoose mentions some stuff about that in this answer to map drawing question

Kind of related, but not exactly what you're looking for I suspect

Xirema

21:53

There's a guide that @BESW has linked to a few times, I think.

Someone_Evil

@Xirema Do you mean the 'same page tool'?

Xirema

@Someone_Evil Yeah, I think that's the one.

Someone_Evil

bankuei.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/the-same-page-tool

Xirema

@Someone_Evil Thank you!

Someone_Evil

If you want to stay on site: rpg.stackexchange.com/q/92290/52137

BESW

21:55

There's an SPT update as well, but the SPT is... not always the right tool for the job.

the Support Tools Compilation and Safety Tools Toolkit contain alternative calibration tool options.

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

@DavidCoffron I'm not seeing how to get enough protein. Mayonnaise seems to be the best bet, but even that will only get you 25 grams in a day, assuming the 0.1g/tbsp the Goog tells me.

BESW

A Spark in Fate Core uses genre touchstones to develop a shared understanding of game expectations.

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

> 56 grams per day for the average sedentary man.
> 46 grams per day for the average sedentary woman.

> Though this meager amount may be enough to prevent downright deficiency, studies show that it’s far from sufficient to ensure optimal health and body composition.

From here

Xirema

@Khuldraesethna'Barya Yeah, that's only like 4.3% of the minimal 10-12% a person needs in a day.

David Coffron

@Khuldraesethna'Barya And that's sedentary, we are technically talking about adventurers xD

Someone_Evil

21:58

This is assuming the poison isn't rich in protein. That sound like a fun idea to broach to your players when they are trying this

Xirema

@DavidCoffron True, although people who have active lifestyles don't really need a difference balance of macronutrients, they just need more of all of them.

So you could easily get to the 50-60 minimum of protein if you don't mind consuming like 8000 kCal of mayonnaise a day..........

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

I mind.

Xirema

But of course, a diet of like 95% fat is going to have its own problems.

So yeah, a Beer/Wine/Honey/Mayo diet only works if your reality doesn't track Macronutrients.

Yuuki

@DavidCoffron You die first and then you erupt into flame.

David Coffron

@Yuuki Oh, that makes it beter then :P

Xirema

22:03

@Someone_Evil You only get half an ounce per day though. Even if, absurdly, it were 100% protein, that's still only like 15 grams.

Someone_Evil

@Xirema Eh google tells me 2 gallons of Mayo gives 51.2 g protein and a whopping 48 Mcal

Yuuki

Technically speaking, you never took a point of fire damage since you put on the belt.

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Ooh, you get two gallons! Missed that. Now we're talking.

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Q: What is the lowest level at which a human can beat the 100m world record (or: the presumed human limit) without using magic?

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Mark Wells

So, maybe the better use for your gallons of water would be to plant a vegetable garden?

Someone_Evil

22:06

Can you sweet talk the jug to give you 8 oz of amino acids?

@MarkWells 8 gallons of water a day isn't going to allow for a very big garden

David Coffron

@Someone_Evil Could get like 90 sq ft according to this article:

sonomamg.ucanr.edu/files/185639.pdf

Someone_Evil

And a 8 sq m garden isn't very big. How many were to live on this for how long? And what do you do in the months while your food grows?

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Cannibalize

BESW

That would depend a great deal on the region and crop.

...and the techniques you use.

David Coffron

@Someone_Evil Eat mayonnaise (although then you have half-the-size of a garden)?

BESW

22:14

Keyhole gardening comes to mind.

Someone_Evil

I also just realized you can get 8 oz of acid (type unspecified) or 2 gallons of vinegar (or acetic acid). I need to never hand this item to my playgroup (consisting of entirely of chemists)

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Hmmm... what is this basic poison?

Most of the stuff in the lab is poison of some sort.

Someone_Evil

I mean real world poisons don't really translate well into games or heroic fiction at all, so I choose to not care.

Re the discussion above:

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Q: Why is mayo in the alchemy jug?

The 5e Alchemy Jug (on page 150 of the Dungeon Master's Guide) has several uses. Some are common and useful, like water, poison, acid. Some are natural ingredients and liquids, like honey, vinegar, oil. Some are alcoholic beverages, like wine or beer. And then there's Mayonnaise. It is a complex...

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David Coffron

@Khuldraesethna'Barya Let's see... it's enough to kill the average person 25% of the time, but not the average mastiff

Someone_Evil

If you want to get tricksy with the jug, make 8 oz of hydrofluoric acid and you have lots of a vicious contact poison

David Coffron

22:29

I think I thought of a question about metal-based poisons (for use with the Forge cleric's Artisan's Blessing), but can't remember if I ended up doing anything with it (nor do I remember what research I found)

Here it is; was a tongue-in-cheek question to Crawford about acid (not poison)

twitter.com/dcoffron/status/956920989966831616

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Average person 25% of the time. I'll say that that half-ounce is the LD50 for a 50kg person. That puts us in the neighborhood of ketamine and shrooms.

Xirema

@Someone_Evil Vinegar is about 30% protein by calorie ratio....

Concentrate the vinegar, and you have your protein source.

Then just eat enough mayo to make up the fat requirements, and boom, you've hit your macronutrient needs.

David Coffron

@Xirema Depends on what kind of vinegar

Xirema

@DavidCoffron Yes, it cannot be Distilled Vinegar.

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Apple cider vinegar is the nectar of the gods.

David Coffron

22:36

(also is there any site that have nutrition info that isn't full of annoying pop-up ads and large in-line ads between paragraphs?)

Xirema

@DavidCoffron No.

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

@DavidCoffron I just use the Goog.

Someone_Evil

@Xirema Do you want to drink 2 gallons of balsamic vinegar to get to 50g protein per day?

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Sidebar tells all.

@Someone_Evil Yes

Mark Wells

@Someone_Evil Won't that wreck your stomach?

David Coffron

22:37

@Someone_Evil haha

@MarkWells Depends on your Constitution saving throw ;)

user15026

@Someone_Evil my stomach rolled hard at just the idea of this

Someone_Evil

@MarkWells I think your throat will struggle with acid burns first

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Fortitude* (cries in Pathfinder)

Xirema

@Someone_Evil So there's conflicting data. The source I looked at claimed Vinegar was a 1:3 ratio of protein to carbs, but the data you're using seems to think it's more like a 1:25 ratio.

Someone_Evil

Vinegar is fat free and only 7 Mcal per 2 gallons so it seems more reasonable that mayo

David Coffron

22:39

Okay, I'm jumping over to google scholar, because these pop-ups are driving me nuts. I'd honestly rather have to read through jargon than click X so many times

@Someone_Evil The bigger question is if the acid would cause tissue damage

Someone_Evil

@Xirema The google sidebar uses data from the US department of agriculture

Xirema

@Someone_Evil Alright. I'll take their word, since it seems like more sources validate that claim.

Someone_Evil

You can also just type in "protein in 2 gallons of vinegar" and it spits out a value

Xirema

So I guess vinegar doesn't solve the protein problem.

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

> Vinegar has been shown to erode tooth enamel and cause digestive issues, such as nausea, delayed digestion and acid reflux, but for the most part, it's safe to drink if you have 1 to 2 tablespoons of diluted vinegar per day. Make sure you dilute it with either water or juice.

David Coffron

22:42

This Q&A might be useful

@Khuldraesethna'Barya one to two tablespoons?

Mark Wells

@Khuldraesethna'Barya The only practical interpretation of "basic poison" is "It poisons you. Whatever more specific question you have about it, the answer is no, it doesn't."

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

I love vinegar and have often had far more than two tablespoons.

Mark Wells

@Khuldraesethna'Barya Every day?

Xirema

@Khuldraesethna'Barya That's surprisingly low. I think a single serving of pancakes would probably send me over the top, just from how much I use to make the milk more acidic. O_O

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

@MarkWells Definitely not every day. Special occasions. I'm not really in danger.

Someone_Evil

22:45

4 gallons of beer also seem to have 51.2 g protein in it. Out adventurer is going to be properly hammered

Actually going to their data I get 69 g protein per 4 gallons of beer

Mark Wells

As opposed to the rules-lawyer-chemist interpretation of "basic poison", which is "a poison, that is a base, such as potassium hydroxide, which I will mix with the vinegar to neutralize the acid."

Someone_Evil

@MarkWells Ooh, I like the way you think

Xirema

@MarkWells Unfortunately, toxicity of a substance seems to inversely correlate to pH, although it's a very loose correlation.

Mark Wells

excuse me. calcium hydroxide. let's cheat some more nutrients out of this thing

Xirema

Meaning a Poisonous substance is less likely to itself have an alkaline pH value.

Mark Wells

22:51

Yeah, but it says it's "basic poison".

Xirema

I think it's just casting shade on the poison for being uneducated.

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Someone_Evil

Just ingesting an alkaline substance is a kind of poisoning

Half an oz of ammonia should do some real damage

Hot RPG Questions

23:07

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Q: Can a Scourge Aasimar fly?

One of my players is a scourge aasimar. I see absolutely no indication anywhere that he can fly but he created the character thinking he could, indeed, fly. At this point, he's level one and hasn't played the character yet. Can scourge aasimar fly?

dnd-5e racial-traits flight aasimar

Black Spike

23:27

@BESW (et al) have updated presentation. Look ok? Will upload, if approved :)

trogdor

Ooooh

Black Spike

(it broke my code to do that, but front-end still works! :D )

user15026

23:43

Ooooh, this is neat

Black Spike

I don't know how the game plays (not convinced my Group to play yet) . What values do things get to? I guess Junk Hoard can get pretty high in a Long Game. Do Goblin Traits ever go above 5? 10?

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