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Q: Why are my questions being down voted?

Lately, I've been heavy into studying items in the PHB and XGE to try and understand them RAW. I'm not trying to make excuses, but being on the healing end of a long medical leave, I wanted to get back into D&D and return with a better understanding than when I left in hopes to improve the overal...

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SmokeDetector

02:20

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer (346): In what ways can a spellcaster's concentration be disrupted? by patrick williams on rpg.SE (@doppelgreener)

Shalvenay

02:36

hey there @JohnOutWest, welcome to the RPG.SE lair :)

BESW

[wave] Hi!

PhiNotPi

I use my lair action to say hello.

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V2Blast

02:54

hello hello

kviiri

04:52

I should really look into Blades in the Dark

BESW

It's on my long long list of things to read more carefully when I can do it all in one go.

Also I think @doppelgreener is going to run a game for me some time?

Unfortunately I ignored it for a long time because the setting and tone do nothing for me.

What's got you interested in it?

kviiri

05:10

I keep hearing little praise for it left and right

GcL

Surrounded by blades in the dark? Sounds dangerous

kviiri

I'm also a bit out of love with Apocalypse World and I'm seeking new experiences in the PbtA front

BESW

No pun intended.

kviiri

;)

Hm, the setting doesn't seem to interesting to me either. For some reason, I had assumed it to be more like Dresden Files -style monster hunting

It's a bit pointless procrastination anyway though. As if I had time to start setting up games now :/

V2Blast

05:46

D&D 5e: I'm making a tabaxi rogue with the Archaeologist background (planning to take the Scout subclass) for a Serpent Isle (third-party) campaign. I'm trying to come up with names for the character, so I looked up a tabaxi name generator (https://www.fantasynamegenerators.com/dnd-tabaxi-names.php). I've narrowed it down to a few candidates that I think fit the character thematically, so I just want to see which you guys like:
Lock on an Open Door (Lock)
Elegant Riddle (Riddle)
Tale of Wonder (Tale)

from Volo's, for reference:
"Each tabaxi has a single name, determined by clan and based on a complex formula that involves astrology, prophecy, clan history, and other esoteric factors. Tabaxi names can apply to both males and females, and most use nicknames derived from or inspired by their full names.
[...]
The following list of sample tabaxi names includes nicknames in parenthesis.

Tabaxi Names: Cloud on the Mountaintop (Cloud), Five Timber (Timber), Jade Shoe (Jade), Left-Handed Hummingbird (Bird), Seven Thundercloud (Thunder), Skirt of Snakes (Snake), Smoking Mirror (Smoke)"

kviiri

I think Elegant Riddle is the best of these

CTWind

06:11

@V2Blast I think I'd go with Wonder, just because I feel like I'd like that short name the best.

Our group once spent a good half hour or more coming up with tabaxi names of varying silliness. Ranch in the Hidden Valley was my favorite dumb one.

I think Sail Against The Sky was my best 'real' one.

BESW

Adventure concept: Jaws, but the shark is a vampire.

CTWind

Does it still have the traditional running water (and/or salt water) weakness? :-P

BESW

06:34

Of course not, that would be silly. (most "traditional" vampire weaknesses are actually derived from folklore about werewolves and revenants, since "vampire" wasn't a specific distinct monster until Western European culture tourists started riffing on other peoples' folklore, and also the ocean isn't running water anyway though the Gulf Stream might count)

BESW

07:07

Good night, I'll leave you with the bit of trivia that apparently the palaces in ancient Egypt had floors so polished that Romans who arrived with Caesar were constantly sliding around the place and knocking stuff over.

Tweeted by Diamandahagan on April 7, 2019 at 5:11 AM

[takes notes for Ancient Egypt campaign]

(I somehow don't think Hatshepsut would have appreciated slippery floors in her own areas, but she totally would've weaponized them in the ambassadorial suites.)

...I've been staring at that wild west chat from two days ago and trying to figure out where to even start with how to deal with that much nonsense. I mean, I figured Deadlands was gonna be bad but wow.

BESW

07:27

So I'll just link "On Confederate Counterfactuals" by Timothy Burke, and mention that during that period probably one in four cowboys had recently been enslaved, and one in three was Latinx.

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trogdor

@BESW XD

V2Blast

@BESW I'd love to read stories telling some of those other plausible counterfactual scenarios that the authors briefly posits at the end there. I haven't really seen any of those stories told - only the "what if the Nazis won" or "what if the South won" (or, particularly, "what if nuclear war happened and most of 'civilization' was wiped out") type of stories.

BESW

@V2Blast A couple years ago I went looking and found... very little that wasn't culture tourism.

V2Blast

Yeah, I can imagine

BESW

Like, there's an awesome story to be told on the "what if dinosaurs survived and we domesticated them" variant, where ordinary real-history Europeans show up at Australia and Aboriginal peoples meet them riding dire wombats.

But I've never found any "domesticated megafauna" stories by anyone who's ever met someone from a culture that actually has history with megafauna.

@V2Blast There is a very cool counterfactual series I've mentioned a few times before, by a French-Vietnamese author who writes in an alternate history/future where the Asian nations invaded and split up the Americas rather than the European nations.

She also writes historical urban fantasy set in 15th century Tenochtitlan.

doppelgreener

07:52

@BESW where was that?

BESW

@doppelgreener Starts roughly here.

trogdor

yeah sorry somehow that is way too ridiculous

that was a pretty horrible, bloody, horrible and horrible part of history that involved a bunch of important things that,.... are just going to be erased in the game?

doppelgreener

@BESW ta

BESW

@Gr8SageEqlofHvn @Iron_Spike I blame Will "Buffalo Bill" Cody for that. His touring show was the start of the romanitizing (and whitewashing) of the "Old West" with performances that looked good and were only vaguely related to the actual "Wild West".

Tweeted by Abstruse on April 7, 2019 at 12:04 AM in reply to Abstruse

"For The Honor" • Beta, a GM-less narrative RPG by Mx. Quinn about magical princesses making messy alliances and powerful friendships.

trogdor

@BESW well also,. not just the "cowboy" stuff, the Civil freaking war stuff

BESW

08:02

@trogdor Yeah, it's all tied up together and I think Deadlands' confederate counterfactual elements are an afterthought to serve its dedication to fictional media representation of the "West."

trogdor

even if it is, it's still bad enough in my opinion

we have real people making real textbooks, still that rationalize and recontextualize what the Confederacy was about

BESW

Oh very much so. It's almost worse to casually wave all that to a comfy "you don't have to think about that so you don't feel bad" background hum, than to explore the implications of a counterfactualism deliberately.

trogdor

we don't need more misinformation about what that dumb war was about

even in the form of a game that might not be trying to claim the story as truth

kviiri

Finally went and voted

BESW

trogdor

08:08

Nice

BESW

I was applying for Australian citizenship and the interviewer asked " Do you have any criminal history?" I said "No, is that still required?"

Tweeted by wapimaskwa69 on April 6, 2019 at 1:29 PM

trogdor

Lol

BESW

"Why the Cool Kids Are Playing Dungeons & Dragons" by Annalee Newitz for The New York Times.

MikeQ

@BESW Obligatory line: "We're gonna need a bigger stake"

BESW

@MikeQ ...and now you've reminded me of the Great Vampires in Doctor Who.

They're alternate-dimension beings accidentally released by the Time Lords, large enough and powerful enough that one could easily drain the life from an entire planet of people.

The Time Lords made bowships to fight them, which were spaceships that were also giant crossbows.

MikeQ

08:21

At least it wasn't a Dr Van Helsing mecha that transforms into a giant cross

BESW

The only Van Helsing vehicle I recognize is Minivan Helsing.

MikeQ

That's not a reference to anything specific

I had to ask myself what is just slightly sillier than giant space crossbows meant to combat giant space vampires

BESW

Ah, fair enough.

MikeQ

Perhaps an ionized garlic cannon, or a Dyson sphere lined with running water

BESW

Ah yes, the Kugel Fountain of Rassilon.

MikeQ

08:39

Anyhow, given the volume of existing vampire stories, there's probably at least one that follows the Jaws/Enemy of the People structure

BESW

Yes, but what if it's a high school romance about a giant shark vampire?

MikeQ

I'm intrigued. Please go on.

BESW

No, that's all I've got.

MikeQ

Actually, I imagine one could write a grim drama based on modern high schools and how issues get swept under the rug by administrative + legal authority figures

BESW

Oh, I was thinking more Chuck Tingle Does Monsterhearts, but that works too.

MikeQ

08:45

Completely different objective, probably would get politicized

BESW

You're right, Tingle is very political.

MikeQ

Not what I meant, but technically true

BESW

[grin]

MikeQ

I'd imagine that a TTRPG about administrations ignoring red flags in high schools would breach the Too Real line

And calling it vampires instead of <insert real-world problem here> is arguably doing that thing where it cartoonifies a serious issue by replacing it with something supernatural

BESW

It would have to be handled carefully, yeah.

MikeQ

08:50

Sometimes genre mixing ends up with these unintended consequences

Although a Chuck Tinglefied game of Monsterhearts would be a blast

And if that's possible, then perhaps a Chuck Tinglefied game of DW?

(writes "goblin dungeon romance?" in brainstorming notes)

BESW

@MikeQ For inspirational material, you should check out the scenes in Skin Horse where UNITY and Sweetheart are reading the Hot Goblin Brotherhood books.

@MikeQ Behold.

trogdor

09:09

@BESW noooooooooooooooooo

Ok so, Unicorn Store

BESW

@MikeQ Pounded in the Plot by Being a Fan of the Characters

trogdor

It's fantastic

BESW

@trogdor Is it pure of heaaaaaaart?

trogdor

@BESW it's Samuel Jackson

BESW

@trogdor Does he play the unicorn?

trogdor

09:17

No he plays the salesman

And brie Larson is buying it

MikeQ

and that's where Captain Marvel gets her powers

BESW

(I will also accept "No, he plays the ukulele.")

trogdor

It's an actual show I am watching

You don't believe me but it is true

BESW

No, I know, it's in my queue.

V2Blast

how have I never heard of this

BESW

09:23

Because it was released two days ago on Netflix and previously only screened at a film festival.

(And most of the people who would be talking about it are probably busy expressing surprise at a brightly-colored DC movie.)

trogdor

Lol

V2Blast

ah

BESW

09:35

> Samuel L. Jackson likes purple. You have armor:2 vs social attacks targeting your self-image. If this stunt reduces the stress dealt by an attack to zero, you get a boost on the attacker.

trogdor

Hehe

Did you start it?

Or did you just look it up? XD

BESW

No, I just saw the Netflix banner.

And, you know, he does.

trogdor

He does

BESW

I'm working on a training manual layout, which means not paying much attention to what I'm watching, which means I'm binging Allison Pregler's Witchcraft reviews.

trogdor

fair

you will want to pay attention to it I think

trogdor

10:20

I just

so soon after watching Captain Marvel, to see them both in another movie together was pretty cool

and I enjoyed it a lot

doppelgreener

10:41

Oh man. A Brie Larson film also featuring Samuel L Jackson? I wanna see this.

I've just been past a sign directing toward a Mechanical Music Museum in the Cotswolds.

I can imagine a self-satisfied looking Babbage sitting back on a log having a cigar watching the whole museum burn down.

BESW

trogdor

11:01

@doppelgreener you should, you should do this

it's very unsimilar to Captain Marvel though, or is it?

whooooo oooo ooooooooo mystery

it is though it's pretty different

doppelgreener

11:17

@trogdor lol thanks

trogdor

lol

or is it? (no it is)

I'll keep doing this until someone tells me to stop (stop you fool) oh ok then

BESW

trogdor

@BESW lol

kviiri

14:51

@BESW I've been considering asking you for the source of these endless quaint reaction images you have, BESW, but I came to the conclusion that I'd rather preserve the sense of mystery.

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Q: Can I use wish to become the ruler of all dragons?

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V2Blast

19:32

the votes on my tabaxi name question above, so far (across all platforms): riddle 6 votes, wonder 4, lock 3.5, depth 1, tale 1

KorvinStarmast

19:59

@V2Blast Riddle, if you are still taking votes. :)

@V2Blast were you in on last night's confab? (Chatizen ToA). I was unavailable, per spousal tasking for her sister's birthday. I was wondering if you might be joining us.

V2Blast

@KorvinStarmast I was there, yes

and yeah, I'll be joining you guys since the others seem interested in continuing ToA :)

KorvinStarmast

Sorry I missed it, but I heard from Mike that we are still on going.

V2Blast

though we are waiting for your return to continue

KorvinStarmast

Yay, that will be great.

Aach, sorry about that ... May's first weekend is my first chance back.

Have you done a char gen yet? I wonder if one week you all do a "one off" near/in the port to get you integrated into the team? Did you guys consider that? We have had a few where the other char "floated" while the three went and did stuff .. .

Might be best dicussed in the back room ....

On my flight to Virginia I'll be reading up on Flotsam, and on Pirates and Dragons (which is a one dice game: all d6.

V2Blast

@KorvinStarmast I had been playing an aarakocra drunken master monk in my previous ToA game. so I'd like to continue playing that character. but yeah, back room

:P

KorvinStarmast

20:12

let's revisit there

BESW

20:31

V2Blast

20:44

got one more vote (besides Korvin) for Riddle for my tabaxi name and 1 more for Depth... but I think I'm closing the poll and going with Wonder of the World (Wonder).

BESW

Andy Partridge - I Wonder Why the Wonderfalls (Wonderfalls)

►

Someone_Evil

@BESW Just: Why?

BESW

@Someone_Evil Caroline Dhavernas shouting at inanimate objects and Lee Pace.

BESW

21:50

7. To find out what keeps people from playing games, you gotta connect to non-gamers. Gaming with non-gamers exposes me to more diverse assumptions, norms, and perspectives from those whom nerd culture marginalizes for one reason or another. #AprilTTRPGmaker

Tweeted by LulaVampiro on April 7, 2019 at 5:27 PM

The whole thread is good, especially for people who like my Paladin ranting. https://twitter.com/vexwerewolf/status/1114913132525379584

Tweeted by UrsulaV on April 7, 2019 at 3:39 PM

(As always, the alignment axis is A Poorly Designed Thing but that's a good thread anyway.)

trogdor

22:24

@BESW was this just a music video or was this for a show or something?

I ask because it really looks like they were trying to set that kind of thing up

though it is ridiculously long for a show opening

ah looks like it was,..... ok then

continual proof that people will make literally anything I guess

BESW

@trogdor It's the theme song for a show, and the video is an extra put together for the DVD, combining show clips with the actors clowning around.

trogdor

ah

BESW

The full song wasn't used for the show opening every week though.

trogdor

ok good that would have been too much XD

BESW

Wonderfalls - Opening Theme

►

trogdor

22:29

those gotta be about a minute long at most or you are just asking for it

it looks like something I would have watched like 15 years ago

XD

maybe not so much now

BESW

It's a comedy about a modern-day Joan of Arc, from exactly 15 years ago. Very weird. I like it, but I'm glad it was cancelled after one season.

Ben

Morning all

trogdor

@BESW it looks like it was fun but like, not so fun that I have to dip into a show from that long ago that is using that kinda CG XD

BESW

The main character is a philosophy graduate who's content to work in a souvenir shop and not "live up to her potential," and then inanimate objects start talking to her, bothering her to do random things which create short-term problems that solve bigger problems. And she (reasonably, I think) has a nervous breakdown about it.

trogdor

ok yeah that is fair

Ben

22:36

@BESW Cinderella IRL?

:P

BESW

@Ben No, literally inspired by Joan of Arc.

trogdor

no really a lot more like Joan of Arc XD

it sounds like it

BESW

It's also kinda weird to see all the secondary characters who went on to become famous.

trogdor

I do recognize some of em yeah

Ben

Fair

trogdor

22:39

I mean, seeing things that aren't there, hearing voices, and inexplicably using them to fix problems?

totally Joan of Arc

BESW

It's fun, silly, very stylized, slightly racist in that "but if we know we're doing it that's okay right?" way the early 2000s had. If you're gonna watch one quirky stylized philosophical comedy by Bryan Fuller, watch Pushing Daisies instead. If you're gonna watch two, make it Pushing Daisies and Wonderfalls because Dead Like Me is just grim. No pun intended.

trogdor

Mm

Unfortunately it's too late on Dead like Me

My parents loved it

Though honestly I liked it at first too

It did get a little out of hand though

BESW

It doesn't have nearly enough Mandy Patinkin to redeem itself.

trogdor

Like not just the ending but the points before the ending where you could tell the were running out of ideas

@BESW he was extremely good in it, but they got rid of him later

:/

Around the same time as when it started looking like they were out of ideas

I think

It has been a little while to be fair

Quentin

This listing of shows that I'm nostalgic for is making me want more Tru Calling.

BESW

22:54

@Quentin [googles] So it's iZombie Quantum Leap?

V2Blast

I enjoyed Dead Like Me, mostly... though I've forgotten most of it by now

BESW

(Gosh, why doesn't anyone ever talk about how WEIRD iZombie was as an adaptation.)

V2Blast

@BESW I've heard plenty of people mention that it's nothing like the comics

Quentin

@BESW More Groundhog day meets police procedural. The mythos was getting really interesting when it got cancelled.

V2Blast

but it's a pretty entertaining show and I appreciate Rahul Kohli as Ravi for more Indian representation :D

BESW

22:59

The comic was... a reflection on trascendental philosophy through the lens of pop monster lore, and a statement about the obligation of individuals to society.

@V2Blast Yeah, the show was entertaining and I did like Kohli. It was just... weird how they kept hammering home the "adapted from a comic" aesthetic while producing a show that was completely unrecognizable as an adaptation of that comic.

Like, why. I'm not even sure that aside from the name there was enough remaining of the comic to justify a need to license it.

V2Blast

the name was a major reason I didn't look into the show until I had it recommended to me by a bunch of people

BESW

Exactly! It's not like they were getting more viewers by associating it with a well-known bit of pop culture.

....Weirdly, Morts has more elements of IZOMBIE than iZombie does.

Shalvenay

23:18

hey there @user59667, welcome to the RPG.SE lair :)

BESW

Hi! You'll need 20+ rep to type in chat, but you're welcome to hang out until then.

Ben

So a bit of a development on my Corruption system. The numbers are the main issue I'm dealing with right now; basically I have no way of identifying how many points to use - how many points between Tiers, how many points do items/interactions cause, how many items/interactions to put in the dungeon, etc.

The other consideration is the players that want to avoid Corruption at all costs. In that regard, it's rewarding players to embrace corruption, and those that avoid it get nothing. And avoiding it is hard work.

BESW

Why are they putting in so much effort to avoid something which would reward them for not doing that hard work?

Ben

The final point was that what I want, is for there to be at least one player to have reached the max level of corruption, at least once, by the last floor of the dungeon. However, statistically, with an "evenly spaced" level progression (i.e. level 1 =10 points, level 2 = 20 points, etc), then the worst the players are likely to get is halfway. So, an option to use an "inverted pyramid" structure was suggested.

That is, the higher your corruption, the easier it is to reach higher levels.

@BESW As it is, this system is based on the assumption that they are not going to avoid it.

I was thinking that it comes across as being cool enough to want to embrace it? But that's a pretty big assumption.

BESW

Is it a game about corruption?

Ben

23:27

Basically, right now, there is no clause for players that want to avoid it, and there's no reward for that. I don't want it to be more worthwhile to avoid it, but I don't want them to feel like they're being left behind for making all this effort

BESW

Is avoiding corruption a subversion of play, or just an unusual expression of play?

Ben

@BESW This is an optional rule. The idea is that the Corruption is unavoidable, but it's manageable.

BESW

Hmm.

As for the inverted pyramid, I suggest an inverted Cthulhu Dark approach.

Ben

By the end of the campaign, everyone will be corrupt, to some degree, there will be no players that do not have Corruption points.

@BESW To elaborate, basically that idea was that it takes 10 points to reach level 1, then 7, then 5, then 3, etc.

BESW

@Ben In Cthulhu Dark you start with 1 Insight and every time you're exposed to something creepifying you roll a d6; gain one more Insight if your roll is higher than your current Insight.

Ben

23:29

What was the Cthulhu dark approach?

[Sensible chuckle] I find it amusing that you can reply to a future response. Lol.

BESW

Hitting 5 Insight lets you hamper the investigation (like destroying evidence) to reduce your Insight. Hitting 6 Insight means you freak out completely and become an NPC at the end of the scene.

So you start out gaining Insight really fast, and then it slows down and builds the tension as you get closer to the top of the ladder and the big consequences.

Ben

@BESW That was one idea I had, originally.

BESW

I'm thinking you might want to flip that around so corruption starts slow but then becomes a Slippery Slope Of Doom.

Ben

Yes, that was what was suggested, which I liked.

IT starts out as not so much of a thing, but it quickly becomes relevant that it's very hard to manage at higher levels. You lose control of it, the higher it gets.

In terms of playability, would it be better to use flat numbers - "you gain 2 Corruption points; You gain 6 Corruption points" - or use dice? "Roll a d6 to see how many points you get"?

The dice have a level of tension to it

BESW

Depends on how much fine-tuned control you want/need.

Ben

23:37

Yeah.

BESW

"Don't touch the randomiser unless you're okay with any result it might spit out."

Ben

Oh, what about raising the dice level as you go? So instead of reducing the points required for each level, go with a bigger dice instead?

BESW

Personally, I would encourage the use of dice in a corruption mechanic whose principle is that it is difficult to control.

Ben

Level 1 = d4, level 2 = d6, etc

That way there's a physical representation of how easy it is to "lose control"

@BESW I do like that

BESW

I'd probably use increasing pool sizes instead of increasing die sizes.

Ben

23:40

@BESW Decreasing pool sizes, do you mean?

BESW

...only if I'm dramatically misunderstanding the context and goals.

The idea is that you get more corruption points the more corrupt you already are, right?

Ben

@BESW That was the idea with the increased dice sizes, yes

BESW

And the value on the die is the number of points gained?

Ben

@BESW that was the idea. At this point I'm just brainstorming, to be clear

BESW

So start with rolling 1d6 and at each threshold add a d6: 2d6, 3d6, 4d6. This increases both minimum and maximum possible values while still retaining a relatively fine-tuned control over the probable amount of corruption gained at each threshold (which a single die does not).

Ben

23:43

True

MikeQ

@BESW IIRC the goal was to make gaining corruption feel more risky and unpredictable

BESW

@MikeQ I think a dice pool is a good way to do that while still keeping the designer's hands on the reins.

MikeQ

Probably. There's also the bigger issue of if/how players should be motivated to get corruption

Ben

@BESW Yes, I'd aggree with that. I don't want it to suddenly spiral out of control - Like, I don't want them to completely skip an entire tier

@MikeQ There is a degree of unavoidability... if that's a word. The variable is the players that want to make the effort to avoid it as much as possible.

BESW

Again, I like Cthulhu Dark's approach, with unavoidable checks when you experience something creepifying but you are also constantly tempted to risk checks by re-rolling.

Ben

23:48

In a basic explanation of how many interactions cause Corruption, vs removes it, it was 4:3

@BESW Can you give an example of that? "Risk checks by re-rolling"?

BESW

@Ben You can re-roll any action if you add your Insight die to the roll, meaning you're willing to risk your sanity on the attempt. Adding a die to the roll also increases your chance of doing better! But if the highest die is the Insight die, then you have to roll an Insight check as described above.

Ben

@BESW Ohhhhh

BESW

Here's the two-page rules PDF.

Ben

Incidentally, have you played/seen Bloodborne? (Just a passing question)

BESW

Cthulhu Dark is the most brilliant dread-building system I've ever encountered, in large part because that's all it does. It has no extra bits.

I have... watched Harry Brewis's video "Bloodborne Is Genius, And Here's Why."

Ben

23:54

Ok, cool. I'll give that a watch. Just asking because this is reminiscent of the insight system they use. Likely for obvious reasons haha

BESW

That's my only knowledge of the game.

trogdor

I've watched two Bloodborn playthroughs

linksassin

Morning all.

trogdor

It's extremely fun to watch but on top of not having a good enough PC to run it I feel I would be extremely frustrated playing it myself

But yeah it's,.. I like it better than DS because it's got waaaaasyyyyy weirder and cooler horror elements going for it

linksassin

@Ben Have you thought about giving abilities that don't work if you have corruption? For instance, casters have to make a spellcasting check to cast if they have at least 1 level of corruption.

Ben

23:57

@trogdor I don't believe it's out on PC. PS4 (or 3?) only

trogdor

In my opinion

@Ben eh that's not a reason it would be easier to play XD

Ben

@linksassin As it is each level has a + and a -. Gain +2 to this skill, -2 to this skill. +2 to atk/dmg, -2 to defense. etc

linksassin

@Ben So instead of it being "get nothing vs get corrupt and some abilities" it is "keep these abilities vs get corrupt and get different abilities"

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