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Yuuki

00:01

Now I want to make a rogue character that wears a red robe and pointy hat. Whenever they make a sneak attack, they yell “No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!”

They will have Expertise in Intimidate and Sneak for their chief weapons are fear and surprise.

I might multi-class into Cleric to demonstrate an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.

BESW

> No one expects a tired cliché. When telling a joke so ubiquitous that everyone can recite it along with you, you get +2 to Rapport but can be compelled to be considered unoriginal.

BESW

00:26

Sorry, that was a little harsh. I have Strong Opinions about how a comedy show famous for the unexpectedness of its material has turned into a collection of complete-the-phrase ciphers indicating belonging to a group.

Yuuki

Nah, I’ve heard that before and it makes sense to me.

BESW

Everyone expects the Spanish Inquisition.

BESW

00:57

From Ursula Vernon's twitter threads about paladins: Hufflepuff Sith.

@UrsulaV Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I weed my garden. The Force shall feed me.

Tweeted by DarthPseudonym on February 28, 2018 at 5:27 PM in reply to UrsulaV

BESW

02:06

Our intern made this graph to explain the meaning of granularity and it’s blowing my mind.

Tweeted by polemic on February 19, 2018 at 11:34 PM

trogdor

02:51

Lol

Shalvenay

03:01

hey there @RafaelSantos

Rafael Santos

whats up!

Shalvenay

not a whole lot, hoping @nitsua60 turns up soon

Rafael Santos

i'm reading the frequent questions on sci-fi & fantasy, a lot of people annoyed by the same things as I hahahahaha

BESW

03:45

Greatest Dice Tower ever!

Tweeted by thedicetower on February 23, 2018 at 12:08 AM

trogdor

What a tower

goodguy5

04:10

the video for it was awful though

going to bed. see you nerds tomorrow

trogdor

04:20

I didn't realize there was a video

Can't exactly watch it right now at work

nitsua60

@Shalvenay you rang?

trogdor

Even with that glowing endorsement

:P

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 yeah -- were you able to look up that stuff in ToA we were talking about on Monday?

nitsua60

[flipping pages now]

Nothing really there.

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 hrm. I take it the next step would be to poke Crawford? (I don't use twatter, so if you would be so kind as to do that please, or suggest an alternate means of getting a question to him?)

nitsua60

04:29

@Shalvenay I don't either, and I'm not at all interested in his opinion.

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 aah.

nitsua60

(I feel like that last line needs a "smiley," so you know I'm not being terse with you. But I can't smile when talking about JC tweeting.)

=D

BESW

You have committed crimes against Jazz and its people. What say you in your defense?

Tweeted by JebusMatoi on February 28, 2018 at 1:56 AM

nitsua60

(But apparently I can when talking about talking about JC tweeting.)

Shalvenay

one idea would be that the local immunities aren't exactly a uniform thing? but that'd be more random chance than anything else...

(and I'm not sure if that comports with what's written in the adventure on the topic either, although it does make sense from a simulationist point of view)

trogdor

04:32

@BESW ahahaha! I wonder if that is the person who commited the crime or the knight sent to judge the one who did

nitsua60

I mean, the rule is that PCs get the various jungle diseases. You're playing a PC, so you get the diseases. How to square it is up to us.

BESW

@trogdor I'm assuming that's a Jazz Inevitable.

trogdor

I can go with that

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 ah, I see. so yeah, I think making it the case that even some Chultans get them would make the most sense then

nitsua60

Whether it's that you, in particular, are susceptible, or that Tabaxi are susceptible above other Chultans, or that Chultans other than those who spend their entire lives in the jungle are susceptible....

That's our choice, and the choice informs us as to what our instance of Chult is like.

Shalvenay

04:34

@nitsua60 okiedokie

trogdor

@nitsua60 this, aaaall of this right here

BESW

"Instance of Chult" would be a good name for a band.

I've spent the last 18 months of my life working on Spire - writing and rewriting the system, breathing life into the world, overseeing development. Now: it's done. Here it is. I couldn't be prouder of what we've all achieved. http://rowanrookanddecard.com/product/spire-rpg/

Tweeted by gshowitt on February 28, 2018 at 6:15 PM

nitsua60

@Shalvenay I mean, maybe the tabaxi are savannah-cats rather than jungle-cats? So your folk aren't any more acclimated to malaria or leishmaniasis than I am?

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 maybe? dunno. diseases are a bit of a sticky wicket in D&D anyway, they kind of gloss over the whole thing of different species having different bugs to begin with

trogdor

Maaaaaagic

XD

BESW

04:39

I like the InCryptid idea that werewolfism is a variety of rabies originally specific to natural shapeshifters, which mutated to jump species.

Shalvenay

@BESW yeah, I actually have a WB.SE question that explores some of a similar line of thinking (although it's more or less a permanent shapechange not a shapeshifting thing)

nitsua60

@BESW I'd like it, except that rabies is actually the scariest thing I have a reasonable fear of crossing paths with.

BESW

In the InCryptid universe, werewolves have about the same prognosis as rabid animals: violently spreading the disease before dying gruesomely from it. Except for werewolves, you die because your body was never intended to shapeshift, so every transformation is literally breaking your insides.

trogdor

Yeah I was a little nervous going to India because they apparently have some rabies there

nitsua60

Alright peeps--gotta hit the sack. Keep the lights on, watch the cash drawer, don't let the teenagers walk all over you.

trogdor

04:42

And I saw a lot of street dogs

BESW

ttfn

trogdor

@nitsua60 rawr rawr rawr

:P

BESW

> Records exist of infected humans, incubi, succubi, jinks, sylphs, bogeymen, and ghouls. Basically, if it's a mammal, it can catch lycanthropy.

In the book, there are weresheep.

(The story is about lycanthropy getting introduced to Australia, and the people who are trying to quarantine and exterminate it.)

Adeptus

@BESW Is that a metaphor for cane toads? :P

The Oracle

1

Q: Should an old duplicate of an even older question be newly marked as such?

This 2010 question and this 2014 question are identical. Both have a significant number of upvotes and well-received answers. Should the 2014 question be marked as a duplicate of the 2010 question now in 2018?

BESW

04:49

Not a metaphor, no.

InCryptid doesn't really do metaphor? It's more of a what-if kind of story.

trogdor

I thought of the Bunny thing

Adeptus

(or parallel, or allusion, or... whatever)

BESW

Takes real-world situations and cryptozology, tosses them into the blender and sees what comes out.

So yeah, definitely riffing on the struggle to prevent more invasive species from entering Australia.

Adeptus

Rabbits? Fence & targeted diseases have done a reasonable job, kind of. Cane toads? Sadistic children (and sometimes adults) have made the most impact, which hasn't been much.

Shalvenay

hey there @KorvinStarmast

trogdor

04:54

@Adeptus ah but they aren't all gone are they?

Though I get the point

Plus Cane Toads sound more dangerous

Miniman

05:20

@trogdor They're about as "all gone" from Australia as humans are.

trogdor

05:32

Lol, I figured

That is why I asked it

Because "more or less under control" isn't the same as "gone" by a long shot

Ben

11:51

New fone

Who dis

BESW

Word up on the Hat - Project status page update. Fate Horror is art complete! https://www.evilhat.com/home/project-status/

Tweeted by SeanNittner on February 28, 2018 at 11:03 PM

This is something I look for in RPGs too:

Ready for a #TVWriting spew? I want to talk about what makes a good hero. The white hat good-person-doing-good type mostly. The traditional hero. Or even the bad-person-doing-good antihero. But mostly the hero. 1/?

Tweeted by writergeekrhw on February 28, 2018 at 8:13 PM

BESW

12:38

Ooh, earthquake.

KorvinStarmast

13:12

@trogdor When I lived in Maryland over 40 years ago, the guys on our lacrosse team were advised not to screw with bats in the building (they would fly in now and again) due to rabies. I kid you not, no few times the lacrosse players would catch a bat in their lacrosse net/sticks and play catch with the bat. Nuts, and not nice for the bat.

BESW

goodguy5

morning nerds

BESW

[wave] sleep soon. Fast starts tomorrow.

KorvinStarmast

Mornin, I'll start Working when My Coffee Does! :p

goodguy5

I always feel like such a tool when I make my coffee

BESW

13:28

"Undertow" era Tool, or "10,000 Days" era Tool?

goodguy5

lol cute.

We have Kueurigs (sp?) at work. I'm loathe to use the little plastic cups for every cuppa (and sometimes the machines get funky). So, I bought a little one-cup french press. But then there was this whole bean coffee I found that I liked, so I bought a little 1-cup hand grinder.

So every day, I fresh grind my whole coffee beans (Bourbon barrel from trader Joes) into my miniature french press and brew my coffee.

KorvinStarmast

@goodguy5 I bought a couple of those plastic Kuerig reusables with mesh screens, so I get to use them over and over again. Works like a charm. But grinding beans (burr grinder) fresh is better.

goodguy5

@KorvinStarmast this particular model has the "automatic" cup disposal, so that'd be a pain for me. I'd have to either slowly open the machine and try to reach into the mechanism (which it tells you not to do) or let it kick my cup back, then open the whole machine to get to the disposal tray.

goodguy5

14:05

why does this question have so many downvotes?
https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/116442/if-my-players-are-in-a-tunnel-of-water-and-it-magically-freezes-will-this-have

KorvinStarmast

@goodguy5 System was not originally specified, I think, and it looks like mxy has added a tag for the game system.

goodguy5

ah

Rubiksmoose

@KorvinStarmast That is correct. It was actually originally labeled as system agnostic

@goodguy5 I don't like the way coffee tastes but I'll bet your area smells fantastic when you brew

goodguy5

@Rubiksmoose I mean, my area does smell fantastic, but that's just my natural musk ;)

And I'm not a huge fan of the taste of coffee, I just like that it's a hot caffeine beverage with no calories

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 that is what tea is for, my friend

@goodguy5 hahaha

goodguy5

14:21

eh, I like black tea less than coffee

now, I do have some rooibos that I quite like, but that's naturally caffeine free.

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 huh. Fair enough.

KorvinStarmast

arrgh, I am trying to figure out the right search terms for this site to find questions about players who do not stretch their role playing muscles: ie. always want to play a narrow range of character. (Is there a question on that?) I could have sworn I saw some answers a while back with suggestions on how to get a player to try new things.

Rubiksmoose

@KorvinStarmast Oh man I think you are right. Hmmm but what search terms? I can't remember any specifics of the questions that may exist

goodguy5

I typed "players not roleplaying" and got some hits like
https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/34831/how-do-i-deal-with-my-players-not-roleplaying-at-all
https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/68773/how-do-i-as-a-player-encourage-more-role-playing-in-adventurers-league/68788#68788

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast I played with this guy who would only ever play succubi

Like, literally the demon.

goodguy5

14:29

My wife always plays an Elven Rogue and it drives me nuts

SPavel

I don't think he ever used any of the abilities, except teleport one time

Elven rogue not optimal

goodguy5

one time... once. She played a half-elf ranger.

KorvinStarmast

@Rubiksmoose when I first got here, I read all 800 pages existing at the time before beginning to participate much.

goodguy5

but then took levels of rogue

KorvinStarmast

Maybe I am recalling something I read then.

SPavel

14:29

@KorvinStarmast Power leveling in Stack

KorvinStarmast

@Spavel yeah, I have seen similar over the years, and I once got stuck in a thief rut.

goodguy5

@SPavel it's not about being optimal (though, it's not a bad fit. dexterity and skills-wise). She just likes it, to the preclusion of other things. no idea why.

KorvinStarmast

@goodguy elf rogues are fun if you like to be clever and sly and move quickly and quietly.

and the ears man. Those ears are so cool. :)

goodguy5

yea, sure. That sounds fun, once.

I'm a "try different things" kind of guy, though.

KorvinStarmast

@goodguy5 We each have our own ways to find fun :)

SPavel

14:32

@goodguy5 ;)

goodguy5

I don't think I've ever played the same character twice (outside of play-by-post)

I ALMOST resurrected my human EK "Harold Blackstone, OF THE LORDS ALLIANCE!" (caps intentional)

but our party had enough frontline

SPavel

I've played radically different builds of the same character in the same game

But I am guilty of recycling some NPCs

Such as a refluffed Wyrm of War dragon (in appearance - a fallen angel) who convinced the party that she was a god while being about CR 6

Because she had a command SLA and they rolled really badly against DC 12.

Also this was in Maptool so I was able to do character formatting, and I would always bold her name when she talked because of her inflated sense of self-importance

goodguy5

cute

SPavel

She was supposed to be the first of a cycle of fallen angels based on the seven sins, hers was pride, so she would be all Superbia this and Superbia that

And the PCs got into it too

It was fun

Rubiksmoose

@KorvinStarmast very nice! I did something similar. I went through a lot of the pages, but certainly not all of them.

NautArch

15:05

@KorvinStarmast your ways are wrong, though :P

KorvinStarmast

15:17

@NautArch If Havin' Fun is wrong, I don't wanna be right ... Luther Ingram version of 1972

That was one of my favorite songs in 9th grade ... beautiful cover of the original song by The Emotions. (I miss soul music of the 60's-70's era ... so much beautiful tunage ...)

The Rod Stewart cover was OK, but it didn't quite nail it the way Ingram's cover did.

Rubiksmoose

Amazing! I just got the [Necromancer] badge with this answer to a question about a necromancer! Possibly the best fit ever for that badge! — NathanS 59 mins ago

Yuuki

15:39

@KorvinStarmast I think you forgot to close that comment with an asterisk to apply italics.

If that was your intention.

@goodguy5 Reminds me of a player I used to play with that would always play something elven.

And somehow try to work in a plotline about being lost royalty or something.

goodguy5

oh @NautArch how was your game?

Rubiksmoose

Good question! I also am interested

NautArch

@goodguy5 it was...interesting :)

goodguy5

oh?

KorvinStarmast

*Yuuki thanks for catching that

NautArch

15:43

THe one player who refused to bow down to the false demon king was tortured and had his tongue cut out. So no more verbal spellcasting (all of his spells have a V component)

and then we were railroaded into a fight

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch off to a good start

Yuuki

@NautArch Wow, usually you build up to the drama but we're hitting the ground running, huh.

NautArch

combat's been fun and we're trying to fight through the castle to find the false king and his 'heirs'. Killed one heir, but had to pause as it got late.

@Yuuki was basically how it started. We had some opportunity to banter with the false king, but it was more of a chance for the DM/king to belittle us.

Those of us who did what he wanted (ate the food, etc.) got 20 temp HP and a Long Rest.

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch From now on I will demand to be referred to as DM-king in my games

KorvinStarmast

@Rubiksmoose I'll just call you dumpling. :)

Rubiksmoose

15:46

Your royal DMness also accepted

@KorvinStarmast not acceptable. Someone please remove @KorvinStarmast's tongue immediately.

NautArch

he basically gave him the Reek treatment.

goodguy5

@NautArch oh surely, he is as merciful as he is strong! All hail the DM! </sarcasm>

NautArch

it was pretty ugly, but my friend took it in stride. We're all just waiting for the end at this point.

goodguy5

Also, better take subtle spell

or, learn drow sign language. It's a language, therefore it counts as verbal

NautArch

@goodguy5 cleric :(

Rubiksmoose

15:49

@goodguy5 does it really?

goodguy5

oh god, no. not at all

Yuuki

@NautArch $5 says that the DM watched that particular GOT episode last night.

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose pretty sure it doesn't. You've got to make certain pitch/sounds. It's not the words that matter.

Yuuki

Or in the intervening time between sessions.

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 ok good. because I was about to call BS super hard on that lol

NautArch

15:50

@Yuuki It just felt like such a power trip.

goodguy5

@NautArch three level sorc dip

Yuuki

@goodguy5 Is that like the D&D version of seven-layer dip?

goodguy5

XD

KorvinStarmast

@Rubiksmoose So let me get this straight: it wasn't the cat who got my tongue, it was the dumpling?

Yuuki

@NautArch That's because it almost definitely is.

Rubiksmoose

15:52

@NautArch Yeah that sounds pretty awful. It sounds like the end is getting closer though right? Will the DM-king abdicate his throne?

Yuuki

@Rubiksmoose I fear @NautArch may have to pull a Julius Caesar.

goodguy5

Alright, so if the cleric can get someone to cast tongues on him.... does that count?

@Yuuki the ides of march ARE near

Yuuki

@NautArch Do you guys still have the tongue?

You could pickle it in a jar and keep it in case the cleric dies and use it for Resurrection.

goodguy5

*cleric

also, related: rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/116098/…

Yuuki

2 days ago, by Yuuki

> Today I made an executive cleric decision and had everyone in the party cut their finger off and take turns wearing our ring of regeneration so if any of them died and the body couldn't be retrieved I could use my rod of resurrection on the finger. Now our keep has several pickled finger jars labeled with our names.

If I had to pick up DMing from this point, I'd probably try to make a stealth mission to sneak through the keep and find the false demon king's hidden ring of regeneration.

goodguy5

15:57

@Yuuki good god

Yuuki

Hmm... does ring of regeneration regrow parts that were missing before you attuned the ring?

Or does it only do so for body parts severed after attuning the ring?

goodguy5

the item just says it requires attunement

Yuuki

I guess the question is one of how the ring works. Does the ring take a snapshot of your body at the moment of attunement completion and then regenerates to fit that snapshot or does it work off some genetic/mystical record of your "perfect" self?

goodguy5

I think the latter

Yuuki

In that case, it should regrow all body parts, even if they were missing before you attuned the ring.

goodguy5

16:02

yes

I wonder if you were to rent a Ring of Regeneration, how much it would cost.

NautArch

@Yuuki we can try and remember to retrieve it. It's cut up in the bowl of oatmeal that the King was eating.

But our other cleric can prepare regeneration if there's a tomorrow.

goodguy5

@NautArch oh, I didn't realize you guys were level 13+

NautArch

@goodguy5 yeah, wer're mostly level 15, but have a couple who are are 13.

goodguy5

a couple like "two" or a couple like "people who live together, etc"

NautArch

@goodguy5 heh, 3. Our barbarian (who had been petrified before we had access to greater restoration, but was later recovered) and two guys who joined us later. I think they're either 13 or 14.

goodguy5

16:08

ah, a "few", then

also, meat oatmeal sounds disgusting

Yuuki

@goodguy5 Probably an arm and a leg.

NautArch

Only one of us noticed it. I was either rolling crits or fumbles most of the night.

@Yuuki slow clap

goodguy5

@Yuuki I like the attempt, but I can't decide whether I like the joke or not....

NautArch

@goodguy5 going out on a limb...i think you liked it.

goodguy5

Also, I wonder if there are farms that just put a ring of regeneration on a cow and keep chopping off parts

Yuuki

16:13

@goodguy5 It does stipulate that you need to have at least 1 HP the entire time while it's regenerating.

goodguy5

yea? so?

chop off leg. lay on hands

repeat 3 more times

Yuuki

And most of the good parts of the cow are places where you'd at least take it to 0 HP to get to.

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 just don't mix it up and chop off hands and lay on legs.

NautArch

@Yuuki Tongue.

goodguy5

@Rubiksmoose that one I liked

Yuuki

16:14

Not to mention, the regeneration takes place over 1d6+1 days, so I'm like 90% sure that's animal cruelty.

GreySage

@Rubiksmoose Well, Lay on Hands never says what you have to touch with.

goodguy5

@Yuuki I'm 100% sure it's animal cruelty. This isn't a moral argument. this is a theory of an infinite food source

Yuuki

You'd probably lose money on stemming blood loss and preventing shock than you'd save on only having one cow.

goodguy5

@GreySage *as Archer* So, are we not doing phrasing any more?

KorvinStarmast

I am away from books. Can an Arcane Trickster use wands starting at 3rh level, since that archetype is now a spell caster? The other rogue has to wait for "use magic device" at level 13

goodguy5

16:21

one sec

GreySage

@KorvinStarmast Most wands just require attunement, so anyone can use them at any level

goodguy5

@KorvinStarmast Not all wands require attunement. Not all wands that require attunement require that to be with a spellcaster. If the requirement is "attunement by spellcaster", then yes, Arcane Trickster would count. The Thief can work around other restrictions at level 13, not just "spellcaster".

GreySage

@goodguy5 Use magic device allows you to ignore class, race, and level requirements, not class feature requirements, unless there has been some errata

goodguy5

hrm... that feels against the intent. I'll do some digging

Yuuki

@GreySage Ignoring issues of game balance and design, that particular feature of "use magic device" has always bothered me. I've personally always felt that scrolls, wands, and other magical devices were for allowing non-magical characters some method of performing magic.

So requiring someone to be a spellcaster to be able to use a magical device always felt weird to me.

goodguy5

16:34

20

Q: Does the "use magic device" feature of the thief subclass allow you to attune to items requiring you to be a spellcaster?

Use Magic Device By 13th level, you have learned enough about the workings of magic that you can improvise the use of items even when they are not intended for you. You ignore all class, race and level requirements on the use of magic items. This allows the rogue to attune to "sorcerer...

dnd-5e magic-items class-feature rogue

GreySage

@Yuuki Most magic items are usable by non-spellcasters. It's only scrolls, staffs, and certain wands really that are limited.

goodguy5

@GreySage Seems that post by RAW agrees with you, but RAI agrees with me

GreySage

@goodguy5 Crawford's responses not clarifying the rules strikes again

goodguy5

ever-useful </sarcasm>

It definitely feels like "requiring a class feature" falls under "class restriction". imma tweet him

KorvinStarmast

@GreySage Wand of Binding Wand, rare (requires attunement by a spellcaster)

goodguy5

16:47

tweeted
https://twitter.com/Zarnias/status/969252691586240512

so, we'll see

regardless, yes. a 3rd level arcane trickster has access to wands as being a "spellcaster"

https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/53836/what-is-a-spellcaster-for-the-purpose-of-magic-item-attunement/76560#76560

Rubiksmoose

very interesting. We've never had a rogue that high of level yet in any of my campaigns so we've never had to deal with UMD.

KorvinStarmast

17:12

@goodguy5 Animate objects and a bag of ball bearings. Like a quail hunt ..

NautArch

17:29

@KorvinStarmast my bard carries silvered ball bearings around :)

Rubiksmoose

For the record, the question I just posted, I can't believe it hasn't been asked before

NautArch

@Rubiksmoose yeah, i'm trying to figure it out :)

I thought Find STeed would be a method to see, but it's intilligence is separate from it's ability to act as a controlled mount

you even got SSD to throw his hat in :)

Rubiksmoose

Oops but I did misunderstand the passage lol. I thought it was weird that I remembered it the other way... oh well

Feels silly now, but I'll leave it as is I think because it might confuse others as well and SSD clarifies and answers the question well.

SPavel

17:57

Is there anything better than cheesy power metal for motivation during tedious tasks?

I submit that there is not.

goodguy5

I mean, there's still an underlying question in your question...

When does a mount act independently?

SPavel

@goodguy5 That sounds like one of those riddles. "When is a door not a door? When it's a jar. When is a mount not a mount? ...?"

KorvinStarmast

@Rubiksmoose Here's another answer about animal intelligence that is slightly related to your question ...

@SPavel I find ZZ Top and the Rolling Stones to be inspirational while I work. YMMV

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 Though really the core of my question is really about determine when a creature is considered "intelligent".

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast I was moving yesterday to the tunes of Powerwolf and Sabaton

even that name is hilarious - Powerwolf

goodguy5

17:59

@Rubiksmoose exactly my point

KorvinStarmast

@Rubiksmoose if I roll 3d6 and get a 3, as an Halfling, I am still a PC and thus still sentient, albeit not an Einstein.

SPavel

Actually you'd probably like Sabaton, Korvin - they write music based on the history of warfare

goodguy5

I like the answer that @KorvinStarmast related, but that doesn't definitively answer the question. I would rule "4 or higher", personally

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel What is their best song? I'll check them out. Also, what is powerwolf's best song

goodguy5

but I don't know if there is anything mountable with a 3 intelligence

Rubiksmoose

18:01

@goodguy5 me too. it was a good find.

KorvinStarmast

@goodguy a drunken prostitute might have an effective int of 3, eh? :p

OK, I'll stop with the naughty jokes ...

goodguy5

I get chastized for using the a-word, but @KorvinStarmast gets away with that!?

;)

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast I liked "Dead Until Dawn" for Powerwolf, for Sabaton it's harder to pick one...they did a cover of Judas Priest's "All Guns Blazing" that I like, but from their original songs "Winged Hussars" is pretty good

goodguy5

@KorvinStarmast but also, "giddy up" ;-)

Yuuki

@SPavel When it's spent a lot of time on the beach.

Then it's a mountain.

goodguy5

18:02

oh no, SSD has arrived, as the prohecy has foretold

SPavel

Although "Night Witches" is much more meme, it's about the Soviet women's squadron in WWII

They flew wooden crop dusters whose top speed was slower than German fighters' stall speed

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 @KorvinStarmast's dirty joke summoned them ;)

goodguy5

agreed

KorvinStarmast

@SPavel Night Witches sounds like something I'd like. Hmmm.

SPavel

sadly a lot of the Night Witches died because AA rounds would set their planes on fire

And also they had no armor, navigational equipment, machine guns - the planes could only take off with a pilot, navigator, and 2 bombs

goodguy5

18:04

fyi, Chimeras and Death Dogs have 3 int

SPavel

And the navigator had a paper map

goodguy5

Rhemorraz (sp), Baboons, and Grick Alphas have an Int of 4

SPavel

@goodguy5 At first I thought you said "Greek Alphas" - fraternity leaders

goodguy5

and then Hill Giants have Int 5

KorvinStarmast

@Spavel I flew from paper charts and maps in my early fight training days ...

SPavel

18:06

And was like, yeah that makes sense

@KorvinStarmast At night, under fire? :P

goodguy5

@SPavel XD

KorvinStarmast

Not under fire, but yes at night.

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast Neat!

I don't think they have many other aviation songs, there's No Bullets Fly about a German pilot escorting a damaged British plane out of the engagement zone

KorvinStarmast

The only time I might have been under fire that I can think of would be when running about in the dark in the Gulf of Sidra in 85-86 as we played cat and mouse with Qhadaffi .... but I don't think our helicopter was underfire since most of the gun director radars his patrol boats had were in our ESM library and thus would have set of the tones

SPavel

And one about nuclear bombers titled appropriately Nuclear Attack

KorvinStarmast

18:08

And If they had shot at us, the odds that a Grail would be used would have been higher.

Got lit up a lot by Soviet fire control radars though ....

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast Gulf of Sidra? Yum

KorvinStarmast

If only! it was mundane salt water ...

SPavel

Ah, mundane is underpowered, the optimal build is 1 level of a divine caster and the rest in wizard salt water

KorvinStarmast

@goodguy5 Hmm, what a-word did I get away with? confused

goodguy5

@KorvinStarmast Well, you made your dirty joke. I was griping about being called out for saying the a-word

Yuuki

18:11

@goodguy5 Alignment?

SPavel

My grandfather was an artillerist but I don't think he ever served in combat

KorvinStarmast

My grandpa was a gunner's mate, WW I.

SPavel

My great-grandfather was a mechanic in the air force during WWII

KorvinStarmast

He later when to college and worked for an engineering firm for years.

Rubiksmoose

@SevenSidedDie actually do you think it would be worthwhile to edit my mount misunderstanding out of my question?

SPavel

18:12

He grew out his thumbnail because screwdrivers were in short supply, and would patch bullet holes with soap when metal was scarce

nitsua60

Today in backhanded insults:

> So you're driving along in your patrol car at the end of a long day when you notice a gentleman out on the lawn holding a tomahawk over his head. Upon further observation, you notice another gentleman on a nearby veranda, this one holding a speargun and a bow-saw, with two axes nearby.

Even in Australia, this is probable cause to stop and inquire.

(source)

SPavel

@nitsua60 LARPers are getting more and more intense

"In fact, a bow-saw is just a saw shaped like a bow — not an bow that shoots saws"

Homebrewers, this is your cue

KorvinStarmast

Legal Humor. Seriously. By Kevin Underhill.

Love that guy's name. He's got Baggins blood in him.

Rubiksmoose

@Yuuki XD

SPavel

If we had modern-day hobbits, would they be particularly good comedians?

I imagine they would have a large stake in the "pipe weed" market

We all know what's in there, Gandalf

GreySage

18:19

@nitsua60 The linked story about the trident is better, and reminds me of old Chris Bucholz articles

Yuuki

@SPavel I’m more suspicious of Radagast’s excessive consumption of mushrooms.

goodguy5

@Yuuki I'm more suspicious of Radagast's ... everything.

SPavel

Radagast talks to birds, he's strung out on whatever he can get his hands on

Yuuki

@SPavel Who knows, maybe he ate a dragon’s heart?

SPavel

Saruman is definitely doing coke

Wall Street style

Gollum is basically meth

Yuuki

18:29

PCP?

goodguy5

@Rubiksmoose damn you and your question. I'd love to have an answer, but there isn't a good answer.

Hill Giants and Griffons have 5 int, but Giant Vultures and Minotaurs have 6!?

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 I live to annoy!

I think I am actually going to edit the misunderstanding out of my question (and make it clear in my question).

goodguy5

hell, even white dragon wyrmlings have 6 int

SPavel

Frodo - anti-anxiety meds?

Or whatever psychotropics cause the dissociation he experiences from the Ring

KorvinStarmast

A nice video of a pretty jet, with a soft music soundtrack

Frodo was, like all hobbits, addicted to mushrooms. Psychedelic drugs have different effects on different people.

Rubiksmoose

18:35

@goodguy5 oh they do?

KorvinStarmast

yeah, INT 5.

Black Dragon wyrmling have int 10.

goodguy5

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/…

sort by int. gets weird

GreySage

@goodguy5 White dragons be dumb.

goodguy5

@GreySage yea, dumber than Giant Vultures

confirmed, white dragons are just dumb vultures

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast I prefer planes that are fearsomely ugly like the Sukhoi T-4

Because of its air intake design, it could only fly upside down

KorvinStarmast

18:41

@SPavel One of my favorite jets, looks wise, was the F-5E, followed by the F-5G/F-20. Beautiful jets. The F-16 is a good jet, but I never found it to be good looking.

SPavel

I prefer the big chunky planes like the An-22

The doctrine of "more machine = more better" appeals to me

Although you can take that too far

qph.fs.quoracdn.net/…

Yuuki

@SPavel I don't know enough about planes, but that sounds like a design flaw.

SPavel

@Yuuki Only 4 were ever built and only 1 passed all the flight tests

goodguy5

I was always partial to MiGs

they just worked. They're like the ak-47 of the sky

Yuuki

@goodguy5 Mass-produced and ubiquitous in the arsenals of rebels and dissidents?

SPavel

18:47

@goodguy5 Because of the backwards state of Soviet electronics, MiGs used vacuum tubes instead of transistors, which rendered them impervious to EMPs from nuclear blasts

goodguy5

@SPavel exactly

SPavel

In the event of nuclear war, the Soviet air force's obsolescence would have kept it in the air

Soviet everything also looked way cooler

goodguy5

Obsolete, or advanced?

SPavel

Look at the Saturn V vs the N1

The Russian one is way more space age science fiction

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 wow that list is strange sorted by INt

goodguy5

18:49

@Rubiksmoose IKR!?

SPavel

(also the Russian one exploded on the launch pad and IIRC is the largest non-nuclear explosion ever)

"One unforeseen flaw was that its operating frequency, 1000Hz, happened to perfectly coincide with vibration generated by the propulsion system" - and this is why you need regression testing

Yuuki

@SPavel Halifax was bigger, IIRC.

Yeah, 1 kt vs 2.9 kt.

SPavel

@Yuuki Yes, you're right, it's actually 3 times smaller than Halifax

But it's certainly up there

Yuuki

Largest artificial non-nuclear explosions

There have been many extremely large explosions, accidental and intentional, caused by modern high explosives, boiling liquid expanding vapour explosions (BLEVEs), older explosives such as gunpowder, volatile petroleum-based fuels such as petrol, and other chemical reactions. This list contains the largest known examples, sorted by date. An unambiguous ranking in order of severity is not possible; a 1994 study by historian Jay White of 130 large explosions suggested that they need to be ranked by an overall effect of power, quantity, radius, loss of life and property destruction, but concluded...

Halifax seems to be the largest accidental non-nuclear explosion.

SPavel

This thing is 15 times more powerful than Halifax and non-nuclear though

Father of All Bombs

Aviation Thermobaric Bomb of Increased Power (ATBIP) Russian: Авиационная вакуумная бомба повышенной мощности (АВБПМ), nicknamed "Father of All Bombs" (FOAB) Russian: "Папа всех бомб" ("Пвб"), is a Russian-designed, bomber-delivered thermobaric weapon. The bomb is reportedly similar to the US military's GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast which is often unofficially called "Mother of All Bombs" derived from its official military acronym "MOAB". This weapon would therefore be the most powerful conventional (non-nuclear) weapon in the world. However, the veracity of Russia's claims concerning the...

But thermobaric is almost cheating

KorvinStarmast

18:55

@Spavel It's non nuclear and goes boom. I see nothing wrong with it, and it is hardly "cheating." Using physics and a bit of ingenuity to make things go boom has been popular since the Chinese invented gunpowder. :)

SPavel

@KorvinStarmast That's why I said almost - the point is that the biggest thermobaric explosion is always going to be bigger than a big normal one

Unless you crash the moon into a volcano or something out of an anime

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 I updated my question.

goodguy5

but that gets me no closer to answering it!

We agree that a 2 is too dumb and a 5 is good enough, because it has a dragon

that leaves 3 and 4 up for debate

I think the inherent issue is that 5th edition doesn't have as much focus on highly mechanical aspects of the game.

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