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1:05 AM
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Ben
1:37 AM
Ok guys: A challenge for you... I need a list of spells, based on the descriptions of their effect. This is using D&D 5e
1. A blast wave spell, causing knockback.
2. A spell that causes someone to lose control of their body, and mind - the subject fell unconscious.
I have no restriction on any other requirements or effects, whether they require a save or not is also fine.
 
2:23 AM
The first one is Thunderwave, almost certainly.
The second one is probably Sleep, but there's a few possibilities.
What sort of power levels are we looking at? All the way up to level 9 spells?
 
Ben
3:18 AM
Yeah, no restriction on levels. This character is meant to be far beyond the level of the PCs (for now)
 
3:38 AM
@RollingFeles I just did, but I'll need to mull it over
@Anaphory Exception that proves the rule?
 
Oh, you're choosing spells. Sorry, I thought you were trying to identify them.
 
Ben
3:53 AM
Oh well pot-a-to pot-ah-to... lol
 
Thunderwave is still probably the best choice for a blast wave, although Destructive Wave is good if you also want it to do a bunch of damage.
 
@BESW Define "important". Depending on where you'd like to go with the story, normal folks could easily impact a plot line more than empowered people.
 
But there's a lot of spells to knock people unconscious.
 
there's a modifier for Eldritch Blast that adds up to 10' knockback, I believe
yep, Repelling Blast
higher level gives you multiple beams, possibly pushing multiple targets
@Ben for this one, is it just important that the subject lose control, or does the caster need to gain control of the subject's body?
 
Ben
@JoelHarmon No. Basically what happened as I described it was the subject lost control of their limbs, they went slack, and then fell unconscious. I had no plan of controlling them, just subduing them. But like I said, if the spell allows for that, I have no restrictions.
 
4:05 AM
@JoelHarmon Well, again, this is derived from ancient Egyptian culture. So importance is about theopolitical influence.
(And whether you're the artist's boss.)
 
Ben
So as an example - one of her spells was to effectively flamethrower a goblin. She reached out with both hands, and a jet of flame engulfed the goblin. That could be Burning Hands.
Another was that she focussed for a second, and then an Elf PC could sort of "sense" some creatures jump out of her, and run off. That could be Unseen Servant
 
@BESW In the artwork, sure, but my understanding was you're going to incorporate this in a game by having the more divinely powerful characters be physically larger, no?
 
The idea is to reify hierarchical proportion.
 
Ben
The effects of the spells I'm trying to pick have the description of losing bodily control, then falling unconscious, and the other was simply a blast wave that knocked them back a distance. They were looking away from her at the time, so they didn't actually see anything.
 
It's about relative status.
In many cases that directly correlates to magical power or influence, because Egypt was essentially a theocracy.
 
4:12 AM
sure, but depending on the story you're going for, I could easily see Random Flunky D being more important in the story, because all the higher-ups are so perfectly countering each other
 
Important to the story is irrelephant.
 
which I understand to be a pretty modern view
 
It's a social status issue, not a narrative thing.
 
yep
I think we might be violently agreeing here
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I think so.
My idea for the campaign is to have PCs be advisors to representatives of major theopolitical factions, and to also be members of an Illuminati-like international secret organisation with its own agendas.
The PCs will be working against each other on behalf of the ambassadors and priestesses they serve, but working together to nudge events toward secret goals.
 
4:15 AM
wait, Ajani will be part of the Illuminati? :P
 
They're (literally?) the little people scurrying around actually getting things done while the big folks put on the show.
@trogdor Maaaaybe.
Maybe you'll be working to expose them!
 
lol
 
Ben
@Miniman I'm thinking perhaps "Dominate Person" might be a good one..?
cc @JoelHarmon
 
@BESW Right. I suppose my reworded thrust could be that the most interesting things go on behind the curtain, which means with the less obviously blessed underlings, rather than the official representatives
and further that your players can ignore the physically smaller people at their own peril
that, and the gods may have more trouble directly opposing each other because they are all their father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate
@Ben You may have the best luck googling for spell lists by school, and focusing on Enchantment, maybe Necromancy or Illusion
 
Ben
4:35 AM
Ok. I'll have a look. Thanks :)
 
failing that, you could always go with the tried and true "0 HP -> unconscious"
or DMs can approve custom spells, but be prepared for the players to get their hands on the spell
gotta run; good luck!
 
 
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5:40 AM
@JoelHarmon Definitely. One interesting thing about Egyptian theology is that power flows both ways: political power derives from the sponsorship of the gods, and the more influential the god the more political power comes from its sponsorship... but the influence of the gods is derived directly from the number and quality of rituals and worship the god receives.
(Which can be controlled to a certain extent by those in political power, but not entirely, as Akhenaten's family discovered to their peril.)
 
yeah, you don't mess with deities too much
cause the people who like that deity will be mad, not the least of which the priesthood who derives all their power and livelihood from that deity
 
6:25 AM
A regular reminder, courtesy of the lungfish: your fantasy setting isn't weird enough. Imagine an aboleth doing this.
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what if my fantasy setting is "Be Prepared" repeated forever?
:P
 
Well, are you prepared for aboleths falling out of the Great Pyramid as it collapses, to resume their reign now that the rains have come?
 
I don't think you understand, they are forever forestalled by the reset of the song
until the infinite repetition drives you even more mad that they ever could
 
@Magician [takes notes]
 
"We finally completed an epic quest to bring water back to the desert empire! Wait..."
 
6:35 AM
hehehe
when you said Lungfish, the first thing I thought of was this one
from Psychonauts
anyway, I actually did not know they could hibernate for a few years
that is a thing that always impresses me
 
And people hunt/gather them while they're buried.
 
for food I assume?
 
Presumably, yes.
 
very practical
I mean, I would be outraged, but they literally live in a place where it stops raining for a long time, I can't be mad at a little opportunistic food grabbing at the expense of an amazing animal when there are probably not too many great options during those periods of time
it is not my place to be mad at people in that situation XD
 
7:01 AM
Ew
That looks horrifying
yuck
 
the fish? that was part of the origional point I suppose XD
 
ew
why did i watch this
 
lol
I mean, it is called a lungfish
 
I'm averse to things slimy and skittery
 
fair enough
 
7:04 AM
Hate insects, snails, all that
I'm okay with spiders
They eat insects
 
eh, I get freaked out a bit by spiders
I am especially not happy with the big ones. and as for the smaller ones, they tend to put webs everywhere, and those feel horrible when I run into them X(
and the spiders here overcrowd a little due to the birds mostly being gone
 
Webs are cool. They're an incredibly strong material (I think some are stronger than the best nanomaterials we can create? Probably wrong though)
 
IE less competition for food AND less predation
 
Where do you live?
inb4 Australia
 
lol no
 
7:07 AM
hah, that'd be me
 
Australia, as far as I am aware, is not missing most of it's bird population?
anyway, it's Guam
 
I was more making a reference to spiders overcrowding
 
we have had a problem for a while with an invasive snake species, which ate most of our native birds into extinction or severe endangerment
which happened mainly because none of those bird species had so much as seen a snake before
so they kinda caved under the completely unexpected predatory pressure :(
 
we had some freaking awesome beautiful birds too
some of which I believe were in fact completely unique to here
 
7:11 AM
I guess those are rules of nature. It happened with the indians in the Americas too.
 
that doesn't exactly make either case right, or cool,
or approvable
 
Nothing right or wrong about it IMO.
I mean, these are the rules (combined with the global catastrophes over the Earth's history) that led to us (specifically us) typing up stuff on the Internet.
 
welp, I will simply state the fact that I majorly disagree on that point
I see a lot of what is "wrong" with both situations
and also vast differences in comparison
 
Ok. I suppose there's no point in arguing.
 
 
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Ben
9:26 AM
So... I think I have a face, and something of a persona for my antagonist. She's similar to Haggar, from Voltron...
Except she has horns... Though I'm not sure if they'd be cut off, due to her service to the Elf king...
 
 
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11:08 AM
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Q: What changed in pathfinder through the years

JackyzPathfinder was released in 2009. Since then it grew with the addition of many books. While adding new stuff is great I won't be surprised if a lot of revision had come along. And since those revision are harder to keep track of, so... What are those rules that have changed drastically* trough...

"manly 3.5e" sounds pretty interesting.
 
11:26 AM
 
Nice thumb nerd
(I'm sorry)
 
 
3 hours later…
2:18 PM
There's no topic list on literature.se.
 
2:40 PM
@doppelgreener key edit on that The Princess Bride question ;)
 
@LegendaryDude very! i thought they were asking about Wesley Crusher at first.
 
Me too! I was so confused by it
 
@LegendaryDude it's just today reached public beta. that comes later.
 
Oh, the public beta is where its decided what's on-topic? I guess these things kind of grow organically. I've not witnessed the growth of a stack from infancy/Area 51 all the way to public status.
 
@LegendaryDude It could be defined anywhere along the way, I think, but Literature.SE is still trying to figure out what is on topic. We've talked about poems, opera, songs, and other stuff -- and people are asking the nebulous question of "what is literature, really?".
Only a couple of people in the private beta were literary analysis professionals, so it's mostly non-professionals trying to figure these things out.
 
2:49 PM
@doppelgreener Interesting. Is there concern for crossover with other SE sites? I can see a lot of potential for crossover with SciFi.SE, for example, but I guess the difference is in the types of questions you might ask?
 
And an awful lot of "is XYZ on topic?" questions appeared during the first few days of private beta before there were even questions about XYZ to analyse! Or sometimes after just one, which was not necessarily a representative sample of the topic XYZ. Several people including myself urged the people doing this to please slow down and let things evolve naturally.
@LegendaryDude No, there is not much concern. There are questions that are equally on topic for Literature and Scifi, but that kind of overlap is fine.
 
@doppelgreener That's probably the best approach. With a healthy influx of questions the community can decide through votes and closures what types of questions are on topic. What is considered on-topic will naturally form as a result of that process.
 
I saw the Westley question title and my brain went to "In D&D?!"
reads scrollback … and so did @doppelgreener
 
And @LegendaryDude!
The 't' is important!
 
 
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5:50 PM
@LegendaryDude I revised the tag wiki to not call it unofficial, because the concept of an official unofficial source is kinda weird.
 
6:03 PM
@doppelgreener That's fair, looks good.
 
6:42 PM
@doppelgreener Isn't that new description the description for "Sage Advice"? Unearthed Arcana is the name for the column about beta/playtesting rules or content.
 
Have you guys ever used Fantasy Grounds II? What are your experiences with it?
 
There's a Fantasy Grounds II?
 
Yep. The only version I'm aware of, actually, never really heard of the first one.
Oh. Googled and it's kind of weird - it's both Fantasy Grounds and Fantasy Grounds II
Maybe a versioning thing
 
I wasn't aware
 
The questions still stand though
 
6:51 PM
I haven't used it, only Roll20
The interface for Fantasy Grounds looks nice, and it has real D&D licensing as far as I know
 
(I'm asking because I might at some point create a rigid framework specifically for 4e emulation because that'd be a fun challenge for my coding/UI design skills and it might bring some happiness to people; and FG came the closest to making a 4e framework be awesome)
Really, it's just so convenient in all the right ways.
 
Trying to find a specific documentary about vikings within a veritable sea of viking documentaries is proving to be a pain.
 
7:07 PM
@CTWind I'm not a 5e expert and yes I think I was mixing those two up. Want to suggest an edit? (Maybe Unearthed Arcana is an experimental public rules testing ground, or something.)
 
7:25 PM
@doppelgreener I think just removing the 'and rulings' part should make it correct.
 
7:50 PM
I found a clip from the documentary. It's on history.com. The only problem is History doesn't say the name of the documentary the clip is from! Argh.
 
@LegendaryDude Could you try taking a screen shot from it and then doing a reverse image search?
 
worth a try
aha
I didn't do the screenshot but I did search for the description text
Which led me to a site which linked back to the video but using an older, broken URL
And in that old broken URL, I see the name of the documentary
Which is, ironically, the documentary I thought I was looking for, but which isn't available streaming anywhere except for really low resolution rips to YouTube.
And to buy the DVD format is like $60 because it's apparently out of circulation.
 
8:18 PM
The search deepens?
 
Netflix has the DVDs
So that solves that problem
 
I'm having trouble finding a comprehensive rundown of the technical best practices for a Stack community ad. Can anybody help?
 
9:24 PM
@BESW Yes. What would you like to know?
 
At this point, what have I done wrong here?
I'm just not up on web design standards mostly.
 
@BESW You've used the correct dimensions (300x250 and 600x500) and your larger version is only 60kb. However the most stand-out, brightest part of your image is the two red books and white book smack bang in the middle, and the red book to the left of them. They are the brightest, highest-contrast parts of your image, and they draw my eye away from the writing.
 
True 'nuff.
 
I also can't read "Samuel Johnson" at the smaller resolution.
 
When I have time in a few days I'll shift things around.
 
9:36 PM
I would look to decrease the brightness and contrast of the background. I would pick a more saturated background strip behind the text and make the text color 100% saturation to ensure it has attention drawn to it by comparison.
I think your simple book image from a few days ago with "Literature SE" up the top would look good too.
 
@BESW In addition to what doppelgreener said, I would also change the quote's font to something that is more easily readable.
 
10:40 PM
> We are strange and imperfect and fascinating creatures, and fiction is richer when it explores our ambiguities. - The Big Idea: Lara Elena Donnelly
OMG. Okay, so I've been aware of the logistically ridiculous and culturally abhorrent but nonetheless aesthetically compelling idea of Atlantropa for some time now. But I was until today unaware that Popular Mechanics thought it might cause volcanoes and earthquakes.
So now I'm imagining a campaign set in a world where somebody tried to make Atlantropa and it failed as catastrophically as possible.
Gradual worldwide flooding followed by a series of volcanoes and earthquakes causing tsunamis and widespread environmental havoc--perhaps even a small ice age--as the Mediterranean basin aggressively reclaims its sea from the invading land-apes.
You could throw in some kind of Atlantean undersea element, but you really wouldn't need to.
 
11:36 PM
And now I know where the idea for Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire came from.
 

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