TRPG General Chat

doppelgreener

00:05

Yeah, like how we enjoyed great ork gods enough we played it again, and we played Masters of Umdaar and enjoyed it so much we not only played it multiple times, we Incorporated it into our main campaign :D

trogdor

yes

exactly

of course, Great Ork Gods kinda just doesn't fit into our campaign anyway

it's all about the PC's being at the mercy of the gods

that isn't our setting at all

doppelgreener

Yyyeeeeaaahh XD it doesn't fit very well

@trogdor well, the orks being at the mercy of the ork gods, everyone else would be fine.

trogdor

but the orks are the PC's in it

its fundamentally that

doppelgreener

Sure, but like how we adopted Umdaar, but only Umdaar went by Umdaar's rules.

trogdor

we would have to make major changes to it just to get it close to working in our campaign

@doppelgreener yes, but the theme of Umdaar still fits way better for us

doppelgreener

00:13

Oh right I see. You mean incorporating the "do the gods hate you a lot or even more than that?" system maybe, I just meant having orks whose gods hate them. But yeah the orks don't fit our theme very well and Umdaar does, like you said. ;)

trogdor

yeah, it isn't so much that we couldn't bring in orks from Great Ork Gods,... but we can't bring in the way the whole game system works

and no one so far has felt the need to bring orks from it into our game

BESW

@trogdor You realise that my brain now considers this a challenge.

trogdor

@BESW I veto

I will put it up on the wall if I have to

:P

besides, my point was that you would actually have to do some kind of work to make it fit, and it honestly is not worth it

Great Ork Gods is great on it's own, we don't need to try to modify it to fit it into something else

doppelgreener

00:31

Well... we could bring in the way the whole game system works.

trogdor

but that doesn't fit with what we have

we could do it

doppelgreener

That wasn't the challenge though, haha

trogdor

doesn't mean it's a great idea XD

BESW

A dramatic re-enactment of Trogdor.

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trogdor

if I was that angry right now there would be a lot of confused people

doppelgreener

00:36

GoG -> Fate: Each God is an approach. Character creation involves rolling 4dF per god, drop one minus - that's your approach score, yes that means they go -3 to +4. Replace spite and goblins with fate points. Orks fail hard and succeed at enormous cost. Their only aspect is their name and anything else they pick up along the way.

trogdor

and a lot more property damage than a chair and a table

doppelgreener

It had no reason to be done but it is done. ^

trogdor

@BESW I could be wearing all purple and a tiara though, but you wouldn't know that :P

BESW

@doppelgreener I figure their trouble aspect is the god that hates them the most.

doppelgreener

@BESW nice.

trogdor

00:46

I actually feel flattered that you both did this just to annoy me XD

doppelgreener

Someone said it couldn't be done. My gut told me it could. I had to know.

Don't worry, we'll leave the orks out of the story. Incidentally, I'm scheduling up a session mainly featuring orcs.

(I kid)

trogdor

sorrycan'thearyoutoobusybaskinginyourattention

doppelgreener

@trogdor ... [implements orks for real] :D

trogdor

you probably think this song is about you

I don't know if you get that one or not,......

doppelgreener

I do, but I never really understood that song

trogdor

01:01

I don't entirely either

the things described in it were probably stereotypical of a vain person of the time,.. and or caricature

that being said, I have found it hilarious on occasion

nitsua60

@trogdor at the time it was a rare--possibly unique--example of a song that popular/mainstream being self-aware. Plus, it gets you every time. Every time!

trogdor

gets you in what way?

nitsua60

You do probably think it's about you.

trogdor

making you think it's about you?

I certainly do,.. except not XD

I have that problem with everything else, but not this song

:P

nitsua60

She very effectively leverages our super-sensitivity to the sound "you" and all the preprocessing/interpreting it kicks off, I think.

I feel like one can't hear "you're so-" without starting to process that in reference to one's self.

Before consciously stepping in to think "she doesn't mean you!"

"Not this time, not ever!"

And by then she's confirmed that =)

trogdor

01:11

I am so vain after all

it can't possibly be about anyone else

nitsua60

So "you probably think this song is about you" is just directed at the rest of us, then? Could be... =)

trogdor

and if anyone says otherwise I guess I will have to flip more tables in my purple dress and golden tiara

4

if you could make your avatar here a gif I would totally be switching to that now

XD

@nitsua60 well, it's also directed at me, because of course I think that

everyone else too though

nitsua60

@trogdor Right. And, in your (unique) case, it's true.

trogdor

XD

of course it is

nitsua60

I like how she made it work for both sets: you, and everyone else who's ever heard the song. =D

trogdor

01:17

it is ingenious like that

nitsua60

Pumpkin time for me--enjoy your song @trogdor. (Btw, is "Your Song" also your song?)

trogdor

I do not know which song "Your Song" is

not by the title at least

nitsua60

It might be yours... you could requite Sir Elton by appreciating what he did for you =)

(There's also this version, if you like that kind of thing. Jukebox musicals, and all. The cameo at the end is Placido Domingo, too!)

trogdor

ah ok, I have heard this before I think

I am not the best with remembering specific titles to songs

yeah, I have definitely heard this one

XD

BESW

@nitsua60 I can't see Sir Elton John without thinking of Paul Williams' Swan from The Phantom of the Paradise.

Adeptus

03:03

@nitsua60 I believe it was written about a particular person, who the events/behaviour in the song were accurate for. But I don't remember who. (And then she's saying they're so vain because they think the song is about them... but it is, so they aren't...?)

BESW

Here, have a Wikipedia article.

> In November 2015, Simon, promoting her about-to-be-published memoir, said, "I have confirmed that the second verse is Warren (Beatty)," and added that while "Warren thinks the whole thing is about him," he is the subject only of that verse, with the remainder of the song referring to two other, still-unnamed men.

(ie, anyone who thinks the song is only about him is wrong, even if he's right that the song is about him.)

Adeptus

trogdor

lol

I dunno what your talking about, it is obviously me

doppelgreener

04:12

@BESW should "their people" be a foreign thing?

BESW

It probably is, but I don't see any reason to add it to the list.

doppelgreener

04:26

Alright :)

BESW

04:48

I took a nap this afternoon and had a weird nightmare about aliens invading and everybody coming out because they thought it was a parade.

Tweeted by UrsulaV on April 14, 2016 at 4:46 AM

trogdor

that sounds like a bad nightmare to have

Pixie

My friend once had a dream that the world was ending, and our reaction in the dream was to have an apocalypse party, as one does.

BESW

The aliens had fireworks and things that looked like Bazooka Joe comic wrappers that were invading the houses. Humanity was doomed.

Tweeted by UrsulaV on April 14, 2016 at 4:47 AM in reply to UrsulaV

It was a problem.

Tweeted by UrsulaV on April 14, 2016 at 4:48 AM in reply to UrsulaV

trogdor

well, it seems like if there is nothing to do to actually stop it, a party is one of the best responses

Pixie

That's true.

trogdor

04:53

that being said, I am pretty sure I still wouldn't be able to manage that response

I would either be too hopeful that I could actually do something productive OR panic to all hell

one of those things is the most likely response from me XD

at least from the perspective of never having actually seen an apocalypse

the third option might just be panicking while trying to stop it

I am not the best at parties anyway

doppelgreener

06:02

plus, it's really easy to implement the "what happens at the party, stays at the party" rule when the world is destroyed before the end of it.

BESW

07:18

@doppelgreener Or you could make it a Time Lord party instead.

trogdor

lol

I would go with one of those as an alternative to the other 2 or 3 options,.. I think

though an endless party might end up being equivalent to or worse than an apocalypes

BESW

@Ekn Hi!

Ekn

o/

BESW

What's new?

Ekn

erm.. I'm working on this rpg-ish game. I was just browsing around for ideas

although it's 04:29am

BESW

07:29

Cool!

Ekn

How'bout you?

BESW

Getting over the warm glow of having entered the 200 Word RPG Challenge, and buckling down to planning this weekend's session.

Ekn

cool :) good luck!

Doomed Mind

07:50

morning guys

BESW

Yawp.

Golokopitenko

sigh I wish not all questions were for PF and DnD so I could actually answer them

BESW

You might try using your tag filters to show only the stuff you're interested in.

Golokopitenko

only old answered questions

BESW

Won't make 'em more frequent, but it'll make it easier to find 'em and pounce on 'em.

Just because someone's answer is accepted doesn't mean you can't make a valuable contribution of your own.

Golokopitenko

07:58

well, I often feel like my answer will be inferior and redundant

BESW

There's even a badger for it.

Golokopitenko

hah I've seen some of these

BESW

(Also, old questions don't depreciate; unlike many traditional forums the Stack encourages giving resurrecting old stuff. There's a badger for that too.)

Golokopitenko

I see

Polyducks

Morning all! :)

Hey, question

Is there a God creation-like game?

trogdor

08:06

good your morning

Doomed Mind

@Golokopitenko yeah, I 99% seem to be pathfinder/D&D related.

Polyducks

I'm thinking like a multiplayer worldbuilding game

Golokopitenko

good mourning

Doomed Mind

I dont mourn. not yet anyway xD

Polyducks

Morning morning morning :)

trogdor

08:07

@Polyducks there is Microscope,.. no gods in it by default though if you are looking for that

Polyducks

I'm thinking of combining 'everybody is whatshisface' with Nomic and making a God game

Microscope looks fun

Golokopitenko

I technically RP Tzeentch whenever I GM for a 40k game

so there's that

BESW

@Polyducks There are plenty!

Doomed Mind

@Golokopitenko nice!

Golokopitenko

@Polyducks do you mean a tabletop or videogame

Polyducks

08:10

@Golokopitenko What's Tzeentch?

@Golokopitenko Tabletop

BESW

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Q: Are there other cooperative world building games like Dawn of Worlds?

I found Dawn of Worlds on the web and got the PDF of it. My group tried and loved it. I was wondering has anyone else worked with this very novel system for cooperative world building?

Doomed Mind

@Polyducks Its the Chaoes god of change.

Chaos

Polyducks

Thanks @BESW, I knew you'd know

Jester Tran

A and B are matrices, what is this inequality called? ||A+B||_{op} <= ||A||_{op} + ||B||_{op}

Golokopitenko

@Polyducks in the 40k lore, Tzeentch is one of the 4 gods of Chaos. He is the schemer god, the god of change, the one who pulls the threads of destiny. So it's fitting for a GM

Polyducks

08:11

@JesterTran haha I think you might have the wrong stack

You're right, that is very fitting!

Jester Tran

@Polyducks woops, sorry

Doomed Mind

@JesterTran I'm too lazy to read ascii formulas :D

and its some time since I last did that.

Golokopitenko

So, Poly, you as a GM will be the god and the players be the mortals?

BESW

There's also a game called Kingdom which I've heard called a "sister" to Microscope? But that's all I know.

Jester Tran

@DoomedMind $A$ and $B$ are matrices, what is this inequality called? $||A+B||_{op} <= ||A||_{op} + ||B||_{op}$ I can type code but it doesn't show up in LaTeX

Polyducks

08:16

@Golokopitenko No, I want to shift responsibility onto the players. It's part of a long-term campaign to turn my players into DMs

@BESW I think I'll try Microscope and combine it with Nomic

Nomic is good for setting up base rules of the universe, like, 'All Gods are immortal' / 'You can't destroy cities without an artefact'

Doomed Mind

@JesterTran its fine, I used an online editor to see.

BESW

Share the hack if it works!

Doomed Mind

Nothing changes much anyway

Polyducks

@BESW do you mean me? Or are you talking to Jester?

BESW

@Polyducks You; I've no idea what that conversation is about.

Polyducks

08:18

haha

Golokopitenko

Hey maybe Fate would serve that purpose?

that is, turning the players into GMs

Polyducks

I'm thinking maybe even doing it as simple as this: Each player gets a turn. On their turn they can either declare a rule or an action. A rule is standard nomic fare. An action is something in the universe like - "A planet forms out of the dust of the void". Other players can contest actions, and when everyone has stated if they're for and against, they each roll a d6. The party with the highest total wins and gets points for winning that contest.

BESW

There are several Fate-based iterations of collaborative world-building processes, but they tend to be less gamified than Dawn of Worlds or Microscope or the like.

Polyducks

You can then use those points to modify your dice roll later

@Golokopitenko Fate is definitely on my list, but I still need to learn it

I'll try this little homebrew - maybe as soon as tonight - and I'll let you guys know how it went

Golokopitenko

Poly, that could go horribly wrong in the best sense of ways! Imagine a player trying to redefine the speed of light, or the mass of protons

Polyducks

08:22

omg yes it'll be so good haha

Golokopitenko

or players could be building their own civs, to make them space faring and try to annihilate each other's civs

Polyducks

It could devolve into a bunch of physics calculations

Doomed Mind

I would love that.

Golokopitenko

or going to the point where their civs are so advanced that they go full Nietzsche and kill God

Polyducks

I'm really interested to see what my players bring to the game. I think when we start off I'll get them to define their realms as Gods to give it a bit more structure

Woah

For example, if you were the God of War you'd start off really pushing for a wide variety of civilisations

BESW

08:24

If you write it up quick, you might be able to enter it in the 200 Word RPG Challenge!

Polyducks

Woah is that a thing?

Linkage please!

Doomed Mind

right side, cool rpg stuff

@Polyducks schirduans.com/david/200-word-rpg-challenge-2016

Polyducks

brb a sec, got some serious work stuff to do

Golokopitenko

Poly, would you take relativity in consideration?

Polyducks

Thanks so much guys. I'm really excited

Relativity?

Golokopitenko

08:26

faster moving objects travel slower in time

a god moving at the speed of light experiences no time

Polyducks

Thanks @DoomedMind

Golokopitenko

likewise, slower moving objects experience faster time

Polyducks

@Golokopitenko I think anything like that would need deep explanation and definition to the other players.

Doomed Mind

@Polyducks nah, BESW posted it before :)

Polyducks

Thanks @BESW

Doomed Mind

08:27

its pinned right of the chat :)

Golokopitenko

yeah it'd probably add too much clutter

will the god abide to the laws of physics or will they be more omnipotent?

Doomed Mind

what is a god?

Polyducks

@Golokopitenk I think that's something that should be defined in the rules that the players make!

Golokopitenko

very good question, Doomed

A miserable pile of secrets!

Polyducks

haha imagine if the game started off with the players saying "What are we?"

Doomed Mind

08:28

haha

Polyducks

I'll take that into consideration for the first game

Doomed Mind

@Polyducks that would be... awesome. I think. I might try that sometime

Polyducks

I'll give you guys a full writeup when I submit it to the 200 word rpg

Golokopitenko

nyessz

Doomed Mind

as soon as I have a location I can do those things xD

@Polyducks cool :)

BESW

08:29

@Polyducks No problem! I entered in the RPG design and supplement categories.

It was a very cool way to get my feet wet in game design and interact with the wider dev community a little.

Small enough to not be a scary commitment.

Doomed Mind

@BESW Game Design can be quite... consuming :)

I find myself thinking about lore/mechanics even when I'm not actually trying to work on it.

Or them.

BESW

I do my best campaign prep thinking while running/walking.

But game design needs writey wordy looky tools.

Doomed Mind

yeah

And other people should be able to understand what you wanted to say

Golokopitenko

I can never put myself into work, I have to get randomly inspired... it's so annoying

that is, for campaign prepping or game prep

Doomed Mind

My book currently has 37 pages...

Polyducks

08:39

What are you writing?

BESW

As a graphic designer, I had to learn how to force myself to be creatively productive even when it doesn't flow.

Doomed Mind

I'm constructing a universe with a rule-system for a high sci-fi near-transhumanism setting.

the latter for a tabletop game, but if this goes well, I might try to do more with it.

Golokopitenko

I'd say shadowrun is near transhumanism, if not well into it

Doomed Mind

@Golokopitenko true enough

BESW

I've also been listening to a lot of game dev panels, and many of them give the same advice as most professional writers: write every day. Set word count goals rather than content or quality goals.

Doomed Mind

08:44

@Golokopitenko I'm aiming for something more akin to what Asher, Banks and Hamilton created.

Golokopitenko

never heard of them

tell me about those

Doomed Mind

pretty famous in the area of sci-fi novels

BESW

...and for those who now know that they're ignorant about science fiction novels, who are Asher, Banks and Hamilton?

Doomed Mind

I'm trying to find a fitting description ;D

trogdor

09:03

I would assume Banks is Ian M. Banks?

not at all sure who the other two are

Doomed Mind

@trogdor yes

trogdor

mk

Doomed Mind

Peter F. Hamilton

Neal Asher

trogdor

I only know because of the Culture series, which was good for the first couple of books and then just,.... kept doing the same thing and doing excessive chronological jumps

so I dropped reading the rest of it

cause that isn't my thing

Doomed Mind

My angle is not the quality of the books, rather the complexity of their universes

trogdor

09:07

he certainly did make a complex universe

but,... then he kept doing the same things with it

soooo

XD

Doomed Mind

:)

trogdor

I have some issues with it

Doomed Mind

yeah well, I have my difficulties as well

trogdor

and to be fair, I really really loved the first book

the second and maybe even third were ok

Doomed Mind

I only read 3 I think.

Hamilton and Asher keep writing new novels ;D

trogdor

09:09

but when I started the fourth one I was burnt out on it a little and he started having the main character have some kind of personal time crisis that may or may not have been simple flashbacks

but he did it too many times for me so I couldn't finish it

I am ok with characters having flashbacks in books, to be clear

but I have a limit

Doomed Mind

@trogdor you should try Hamiltons "Nights Dawn" Trilogy.

trogdor

and he hit (and most likely exceeded seeing as I didn't get quite halfway through) it

@DoomedMind I will take that into consideration

Doomed Mind

yeah, sometimes his writing style is painful, I admit

trogdor

again

loooooved the first book

somehow he nailed that for me

the series got less good as it went along though XD

Doomed Mind

Banks that is.

I'll probably get to that too

but I read other stuff before Banks

trogdor

09:15

I like sci fi

though for reading I think I prefer fantasy over it

but neither will satisfy me if I don't like the characters or if,... the author decides to do the kinds of things I have mentioned from the Culture series

Doomed Mind

I used to like fantasy more than sci-fi, but I kinda got fed up with the kind of stories, but mostly universes, used.

trogdor

09:35

I still like both,... but most sci fi, or at least authors of it,.. don't seem to focus on the kinds of characters I like

plus, sci fi has fewer dragons in it

eimyr

I really like hard sci-fi. I'm not sure if there is such a thing as a hard fantasy though.

BESW

I've been much more engaged by both sorts of speculative fiction since I started actively seeking out more diverse authors. Ann Leckie and Nnedi Okorafor have seriously impressed me.

eimyr

@BESW Time to try Jacek Dukaj

BESW

@eimyr Okorafor's Lagoon MIGHT qualify.

@eimyr Good translations?

eimyr

@BESW Absolutely no idea, but these books are nigh-untranslatable so if there are any (and I think there are), the translations must be superb.

Golokopitenko

09:42

ahoy, eimyr

eimyr

yo

Golokopitenko

how's your campaign going

eimyr

@BESW His newest book, official translation

@golokopitenko No idea! I've missed the last session, which was also the last in the campaign. I got a short recap from my friend, but that's it. The game is over.

Golokopitenko

awww no way, what a bummer

good end?

eimyr

I guess it was alright.

Didn't end with a satisfying bang.

Golokopitenko

09:48

ah

eimyr

@BESW dukaj.pl/en/books take a look at King of Pain, find the littlest ever "more" button, there are some passages from some stories (it's a short story anthology)

Golokopitenko

anyway, earlier I was referring to that campaign you were prepping, with different factions and stuff

I had no idea you were also playing one!

eimyr

Yeah, I joined an RPG club early this year. We have games that last for 12 weeks, then some break, another 4-weeker, break, 12weeks one, rinse repeat

There's about 12 people in the club, and I'd say about 8-9 GMs among them

Golokopitenko

how do GMs manage to fit campaign narratives into an established number of sessions?

eimyr

It's how we prep.

My current GM had a very slow paced game, which sort of fell into 12 week run.

Some other deliberately prep only so much stuff, so that the group manages to reach endgame in 10 sessions (first for character creation, last for, well, the endgame itself)

BESW

09:52

I used to have campaigns that ran exactly one semester each.

Golokopitenko

I don't know how would I manage to do that... like, bending the story to make it end? uggh

eimyr

The one I'm writing has 8 "progress" marks, the players can reasonably reach one every session on average and I have some stretch room.

trogdor

@BESW how did that work?

Golokopitenko

hum

I see

it's more a written story they can advance through... whereas I prep "world simulators" that have a lot of entropy

eimyr

@Golokopitenko Hey, are you a fast clicker?

Golokopitenko

09:59

well... I have my technique

BESW

@trogdor First third or half of the semester was "wander the world, make relationships and learn how things work." Then the NPCs whose plans they'd blundered into and messed up would come back with new plans that took the PCs into account, either manipulating them or attempting to eliminate them.

Golokopitenko

HNNGH!

ADDED

blows smoke coming out his finger

eimyr

enjoy

trogdor

lol

Golokopitenko

I see I see

may I comment it or should I keep it hush hush

eimyr

10:05

Erm, my players are unlikely to come here

so go ahead

Golokopitenko

are the pictures for you or do you use them to show the players how you envision the world?

eimyr

For myself.

Golokopitenko

it is very fancy

eimyr

These are secret notes, but e.g. the Locations are OK to be shown, mostly

Golokopitenko

I see how to prepped the bare minimum

for the first level, that is

eimyr

10:08

bear necessities

Golokopitenko

description, clues and how to find them

and that's all

but in my imagination that'd go like: ok you see this and that, what do you do? "I roll/do X" ok you found a clue you may proceed; and that's like 5 minutes of gameplay

in reality it probably goes different, with RP and players not finding the clues right away but still...

how do games prepped as such go in your experience?

eimyr

The players enter, see this and that and say "I do this thing you never prepped for"

And that's where improv comes in

trogdor

I have that problem too XD

I actually prepped one session too much,.. and then the PC's stampeded over it XD

Golokopitenko

I see. The philosophy, I must be reminded, is to prep as low as possible because you can't prep for everything, instead prep the framework in which to act

eimyr

The players are also NOT Sherlock Holmes, so before they check the dust, the carvings and go ask for help they spend 10 minutes guessing and discussing possible answers

The Oracle

10:12

0

Q: I've changed game systems, can I reask my favourite questions?

I got into RPing while D&D 4e was waning in popularity, so on the advice from my FLGS, picked up the Pathfinder Beginner Box. Had fun with it for a few years and got some great answers and help on RPG.SE. Being the impressionable and fickle creature that I am, I've moved to D&D 5e, so I can play ...

discussion questions on-topic game-systems

Golokopitenko

my favorite GM moment was seeing my players discuss how to do a heist for about an hour

and then they executed it flawlessly, even when I made unexpected things happen

trogdor

I am still pretty new to GMing stuff

and all of it has been pretty railroaded to at least some extent

Golokopitenko

what system?

it's OK to railroad, so long the players like it

trogdor

first 4E now fate

Golokopitenko

or as long as they do not notice it... heheheHEHEHEHE

trogdor

10:15

XD

the thing is, in fate it has not been 100 % railroad

when the PC's touch what I have made, they can change it drastically

Golokopitenko

but fate has not a ... fixed GM does it?

trogdor

it has a GM still,... but the PC's have about the same power to change the world out of character as the GM

and I don't mind that

just to be clear

I just need to learn how to work with it as a GM

and as clarification, I am not the main GM in the group

I just have done it a couple times and plan to do it every once in a while when BESW isn't doing it on a given day

because I have ideas, I find GMing fun at least on occasion, and as a bonus it lets him be a PC sometimes XD

BESW

Speaking of which, I'm planning to try out the M12 mission briefing mechanic this weekend.

Golokopitenko

M12 mission briefing mechanic?

BESW

The atomic-robo RPG's expansion Majestic 12 has a Mission Briefing mechanic released as part of the ARRPG OGL.

> Mission briefings, like brainstorms, give players a concrete way to collectively steer the narrative. However, instead of answering the question “What’s going on here?”, a mission briefing asks the players “What stands between you and your objective?”
During a mission briefing, the players take turns inventing expected obstacles and resistance they expect their characters to face in the course of achieving their goal. They also indirectly tell the GM what sorts of things they’d like to do during the mission by choosing what skills will be especially relevant. This also generates a supply …

trogdor

10:23

are we using the same characters for it?

BESW

Yeah, I'm just incorporating this mechanic into the ongoing Amaterasu game to see how it works.

trogdor

ah ok

Golokopitenko

ahh, that's a Fate thing

BESW

Hence bringing it up in the context of Fate's relationship between GM and players.

BESW

12:18

@JorgeBarata Hi!

In light of your question yesterday, have you seen Lasers & Feelings?

eimyr

+1

BESW

There are also several Worlds of Adventure for Fate which might qualify, like Knights of Invasion, Deep Dark Blue, or The Three Rocketeers, depending on the kind of sci-fi you're after.

A Penny For My Thoughts and Lady Blackbird are technically sci-fi suitable for one-shots, but probably aren't what you're looking for.

eimyr

Great Ork Gods could totally be sci-fi, you could easily refluff it to be about aliens

BESW

12:33

Green Orionid Gods?

"Any sufficiently annoyed alien is indistinguishable from an Ork God."

eimyr

Kinda sorta

Kryptonians Ate My Baby!

Polyducks

12:49

Grods in the vineyard?

Hey guys :)

eimyr

Technologically Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, 2nd edition.

Polyducks

haha

Mage: The Decompression

@BESW this lasers and feelings thing is amazing. I really like how simple it is

BESW

You may recognise it as the foundation for Colonypunk's dice mechanic.

Although the coin mechanism is inspired by All Outta Bubblegum, which Lasers & Feelings probably drew on itself.

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