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@Sandwich I have not seen a Pathfinder game advertised, but I also don't play PF, so I'm not the best person to ask.
00:14
@Sandwich why do you ask?
we have people here who have done pathfinder, and people here who host weekly non-pathfinder games.
I like pathfinder, and am looking for a game
@Grubermensch probably this is not a coincidence
@Sandwich aha, well if all else fails there is this:
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Q: Where can I find other RPG players?

George StockerI'd really like to learn how to play pen-and-paper RPGs. I know that it takes a few players to actually sit down and play, but I'm not at all sure where to find more gamers. How do I find existing groups to join? Or, are there any resources online that may help me find existing RPG groups or pl...

I've been playing a few games on rpol for years now
PbP progresses so slowly though
yeah i would not run anything but freeform via PBP
if there's a system... chat or VOIP plox
One of my games is 3.5 and the other is pathfinder
Those are the only two systems I really know
I played Adnd a long time ago
But forgot mostly everything from then
Because I was like 9 at the time
00:19
i've gone from playing D&D to playing lots of systems and never D&D
(the exception is a pathfinder game my friend may or may not be starting up, 'cause she's given herself such an enormous burden of prep and is dead-set on doing it that it might never happen)
How is she going to host it
Does she need an arcane spellcaster
It is a personal thing among friends, she is not good at dealing with strangers so I cannot extend you an invitation.
I see.
If I roll a twenty right now
Someone will start a pathfinder game and invite me specifically
1d20
Damn
orz
00:27
incidentally it is also a low-magic setting c(:
so no arcane spellcasters
00:50
@doppelgreener We also have people who loathe Pathfinder, and people who write 3rd-party content for Pathfinder. Both the same person, ironically.
Who's that?
@Sandwich Lord_Gareth.
That's a job I'd like to get into
Writing for an RPG system sounds great
01:42
that would depend on the system and the company you join too though.
01:55
This is the most adorable earth elemental pet I've seen.
I couldnt justify paying money for it
Its a really easy to make 3d model
There are probably only like 150 triangles in that model
Hah, things in games aren't valued by how hard they're to make for the designer/artist. But by how cool they are. And/or useful. This one's cool.
When I'm paying hard-earned imaginary currency for something, I want it to be useful
Fair enough! This one is explicitly a cosmetic for-fun item, like all the other minis.
It's perhaps worth noting that GW2 doesn't have a subscription fee, so their inclusion of a cosmetic cash-shop (can be bought with in-game gold, too) is justifiable. Anyway! Pet rock.
(ironically, I have less problem paying hard-earned real money for something cool but useless...)
02:14
Man, I haven't played GW2 in forever. I don't buy gems often, but that is... kinda tempting, I gotta say.
I wonder if they still sell bobblehead tables. I always wanted one of those.
@Sandwich As someone who writes in the RPG industry and loves writing for RPGs.
You will need to prepare yourself for howling, unending fury that will scar your soul and leave you a changed and bitter individual who arises each morning solely from the spite of death.
It's a bit stressful.
@Lord_Gareth To be fair, you would describe making a toast in the morning the same way.
@Magician I would, but, like, dude. You don't even know.
DSP is a great company to work for but my god, some of the crap we go through.
(Also Brian left??)
Oh, I'm sure you have reasons. Some of which may or may not have to do with people who promised to write stuff... not.
Yeah. He's not a mod anymore, and will be back eventually, hopefully.
@Magician It's not just that. Audience participation is a thing. And it's a wonderful thing!
But it also contains lots and lots of really dumb people who very angrily insist on poor design standards
02:40
You have summoned the mighty Tarmikos! How can I help ya?
Dreamscarred press? Isnt that the company that released the updated psionics rules for Pathfinder?
DSP makes solid stuff. I have very minor complaints, but they're mostly "I WANNA MAKE THIS CLASS DO THIS AND IT CAN'T" which can be answered by "Well, play this class instead. It can do that, AND this."
This is the cutest thing ever. About a dad whose 4 year old daughter wanted to play D&D with him, but of course she couldn't grasp it, so he wrote an easier game for her to play.
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Classes that can do this and that are problems in their own right
Oh sure. I get summoned here, and the person who summoned me leaves.
Y'know how much of a pain it is to be summoned?
02:46
Especially the fusions of classes like the Arcanist
Arcanist is fuckin' stronk
I was having tea and kicking my feet up on the back of a servant while reading a book, but now I've been summoned.
I think I left my cigarettes behind, too...
Have we ditched the language limits? Can I say the dreaded F word without having to censor myself?
Sure you can say Fate :P
That's not what I meant...
Well, darn. Guess I still have to censor myself.
I suppose I should be used to it at this juncture.
@Tarmikos11 hmm
02:49
[sounds the call]
Tarkimos11 - I am here.
NOW TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON MURDER CHEFS
I think they're wonderful.
I've wanted a reason to RP a chef for a while, and usually I just do it to mitigate being mostly useless in combat.
(Or for flavor reasons.)
One of my ponyfinder characters had Profession Chef and that got him married off and retired, so that worked out kinda well, but the idea of an adventuring chef is very fun.
Sadly, the game I played him in doesn't allow DSP content, otherwise I'd probably take the chef thing to the next level.
@Tarmikos11 If I was playing a chef, I'd have to fight the strong compulsion to play him with a strong faux-Swedish accent ;)
I made mine Italian.
Well... Technically I made him a New York Mobster type, who happened to have Italian-Esque heritage.
The summoning. It goes all ways.
I summon @doppelgreener next. TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON FALLOUT 4!
... Darn, I guess it didn't work.
02:59
Yeah, I get the reference.
I was just saying that I wasn't doing Swedish Chef.
At any rate, I could sum up my feelings on the Murder Chefs as "YAAAAAAAAAASSSSSS!!!"
AND NOW, I PAINT.
Murder chefs
Kind of reminds me of the chef class from Risk of rain
They throw out large amounts of butchers cleavers
All I can think of is Hannibal Lecter.
[flumps on @Lord_Gareth]
@Tarmikos11 Fallout 3 was disappointingly flawed and I heard New Vegas was much better but I heard that from people who liked Fallout 3 to begin with. Much of Skyrim followed the same fundamental problems. I have no faith in Bethesda to create a good Fallout 4. It is nice that it is colourful and has a theme of the wastelands being revived. Let's see how it goes.
Have you looked at the game play previews from E3?
From what I've seen? It looks a lot better than the other ones.
03:09
Skyrim was way worse than Oblivion
@Tarmikos11 I've seen a little bit.
Skyrim had the most awkward difficulty balancing of any Elder scrolls game I've ever played
But no, I have not been following E3, or a game whose developers I do not have faith in.
Probably the best press conference was sony
Fallout 3 was an enormous, empty, boring brown wasteland. (I get that's the theme of the game, but at least Fallout 2 didn't bother with filling out the entire wasteland.) It had some places of genuine life and attentive caring development by the team: the vault, the ending area, the brotherhood of steel outpost, the ghoul city.
03:13
The FF7 remake announcement along with the cable service that lets you pay for channels a la carte instead of having to buy 100 channels was a masterstroke of a conference
I thought the one place with the tree was nice.
Heh
I thought about Ponyfinder before they released any official campaign setting for it back on the canterlot boards
The rest was too little effort over too much space, like too little butter over too much bread. Places were full of meaningless encounters with the same enemies as before with the same rewards as before. The super-mutant outposts were all the same after only two or three, to the point where I got to the museum full of super-mutants it was boring facing them again. The sewer tunnels in the city full of mutant oozes were all the same tunnel copied+pasted a lot of times.
That was ages ago though
That was deeply unsatisfying, I grew bored and stopped.
Then Skyrim came along and had a quest engine that was literally templated by design, with "Go to {blank} and kill {number} {blanks} / get me {number} {blanks} then come back to get {blank}", and so on.
03:15
It was no morrowind thats for sure
Oblivion is still the best one though
@Sandwich [mouth hangs open] Are you serious?
I am used to games that put loving attentive care into each area, and do not create more areas than they can put that care into. I do not care for games that do not do that, that bite off more than the developers can chew. So, given Bethesda's done exactly that in their most recent two games, I do not look forward to the next.
Oblivion is amazing
Are you saying otherwise Miniman
Because
We might have some problems
:U
[Puts up flame shield]
@Sandwich We already do
03:17
@doppelgreener Fair enough, I happen to disagree, but I don't fault you for having the preferences you do.
I mean, it's like they deliberately set out to make a crappy version of Morrowind with all its unique features removed
Name one quest in any other elder scrolls game as good as whodunit and I might argue the point
@Sandwich See, I've never even heard of that quest, because no one I know made it far enough through the most boring Elder Scrolls game ever
While it is true that morrowind had waaaaay more to do and multiple expansion packs it still didn't have nearly as good a story or as much patrick stewart
Whodunit is a dark brotherhood quest where you have to kill everyone in a mansion who are all convinced that theres a gold prize hidden inside and they're trying to find it
You can convince them to kill each other one by one and they start getting paranoid as the quest progresses
Thinking that the others are the killers
Until theres just two left
You and the last person
Then you kill em
And grin because they never saw it coming
My description doesnt really do the quest justice
Well, I'm amazed. This is the second time I've ever heard anyone say anything good about Oblivion
03:23
I'm not saying that Morrowind isnt an amazing game
I'm just saying that I like Oblivion better
Well, each to their own I guess
Pretty much the theme of this conversation.
I mean like
The song Watchman's ease
And Wings of Kynareth
Are two of the best Video game songs ever
The same could be said for the main Morrowind theme
And in Morrowind, you were the protagonist, rather than just a random supporting character
In Oblivion you're a prisoner who rises up from adversity when a secret passageway through the imperial city sewers happens to run through your cell who eventually becomes a savior of the realm when he manages to save the last son of the emperor and light the dragonfires to prevent the daedra from crossing planes and destroying everything
How isnt that a protagonist
03:30
Because the story is all about Martin, you're really just a bodyguard
(Who actually does everything, but that's besides the point)
Yeah because Martin's the one who goes into all the oblivion gates, kills daedra, rips out their sigil stones and destroys the gates
I said the story, not the game. It goes without saying that you do everything in the game, that's the default
Anyways, we should either stop or take it to the bar
I'm now tempted to make an experimental game where you're the dude who follows around the dude who does everything.
So like Ico but you're the girl being pulled around everywhere instead of the guy doing things
Or rule of rose
I think that's what its called
Where the dog does all the important stuff and you're just running around
@Sandwich I have yet to play this one but I'd love to ;_;
03:42
It has ghosts
Its not boring
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are right up there on the list of games I absolutely must play.
You need not convince me.
It will happen.
Shadow of the colossus is absurdly good
You should get the HD release for the PS3 and play it right now
[waves in passing]
Well I'm going to bed
Night guys
I'm heading back to Guam tomorrow morning.
Like, in seven hours.
03:48
See you soon then BESW :D
o7
Gooodbye, folks who're leaving.
@BESW Have a peaceful trip!
(I mean, as peaceful as such a trip can be.)
I'll settle for safe.
With a possible bonus round of "didn't lose any stuff."
Have a safe trip and don't lose any stuff!!
Thanks!
03:53
Don't die!
It's been an amazing vacation. I hope to be a rather different person when I get back.
I will leave that room open for you to be different around me.
I appreciate it. The chat may not notice much, I dunno.
But I might do some Skyping with you, Greener. Stuff we've touched on in the past, maybe.
Or just "OMG OMG OMG Listen to my awesome vacation."
Sounds good. :)
@BESW Both!
I must AFK for an hour, and I suspect you'll be asleep by then. Have a good night!
And if I am mistaken, have a good night anyway.
TTFN!
ttfn
I'd better be asleep in an hour.
@Tarmikos11 [wave] Haven't seen you for a while.
04:02
I have been... Busy, shall we say.
[waves back] Hello.
@BESW Meeting cancelled. And yes you better had!
[transferring stuff to tablet for plane]
@doppelgreener It was Part Time Gods you wanted me to look at, right?
@BESW Yup. They have a beta document that's free from drive thru rpg.
Downloading and tabletting.
I haven't taken a look at it myself yet but the concept is fascinating.
04:13
I may not be able to brain enough for it on the plane, but if I can...
And some of what they're talking about doing with the Fate system with its differences from Core is interesting.
I'm always game for more insight into how Fate can be moulded.
@BESW I do not truly expect you to be able to brain anything for at least the next couple of days following a trip like this.
@BESW Me too.
@doppelgreener All the brains.
@BESW braaaaiiiinnnnssss
04:24
15 hours ago, by Magician
Entirely unrelated to the previous discussion, I saw Jurassic World today, and kiiind of want to run a raptor apocalypse game now. It's like zombie apocalypse, but with raptors.
i want to do the same now.
I'm gonna brew this up as a fun session for Atomic Robo.
like That Episode Where They Have To Fix The Apocalypse, kinda like the Vampire Dimension thing.
Cool.
And we've established time portals just before I left, so that's something you can use to do it.
The Dragonstrike "tutorial" is a national treasure.
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04:53
@BESW Wait... we established time portals... and Doctor Light got stuck in the precambrian.
that is perfect
05:10
@Pixie I remember playing that game (and mocking the video) when it first came out
 
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06:31
@Adeptus It's the perfect storm of bad dialog, bad acting, bad accents, bad costumes, and bad effects. So early 90s. There is also very little... tutorial in the tutorial.
Having watched its half hour tutorial, I still have only the most tenuous grasp of how this game works. :P
I love the part where the warrior and thief are bickering and the elf just starts howling.
@Pixie Kind of like WarGames.
@Miniman Heh. Haven't seen that one.
I think the only point at which they give you any real information about the game is after they ask you to "cast a pause spell on your VCR" and send anybody who's not going to DM out of the room, at which point they explain basic information about what a DM is which all players could benefit from knowing. :P
@Pixie But how else would you preserve the DM mystique?
Surely we can't let the players in on our secrets.
@Grubermensch By waving your hands around in circles and then hiding behind your screen, hissing.
@Pixie Personally, I like to throw a black cloth over my whole end of the table.
(Including myself.)
It's the only way to be sure.
06:44
@Pixie personally I just keep a python there to do the hissing for me, also means nobody gets too close to my side of the screen, which is useful.
@Miniman Ah, the old Accursed Blanket Fort of Solitude and Despair trick. But for maximum effect, you have to craft the illusion that the entire cast of NPCs is in there with you.
@doppelgreener Slap some wings on it and you've got a wyvern!
Also, nice delegation.
My other favorite thing is how this random guy with a coyote pelt on his head runs into a banquet and collapses, and some court dude is immediately like, "Seems to be a wizard!" I was wondering if all wizards wore random animal headgear in this world. Thankfully, the video addressed this burning question later on.
@Pixie not a druid? or an oracle? or a huntsman?
or some assorted peasant who should immediately be defenestrated for the interruption?
@doppelgreener Nope. Wizard. Definitely a wizard.
06:52
aha
@doppelgreener Defensive Defenestration Demonstration.
@Magician Defenestration Demonstration would make a good name for an eclectic alternative band.
@doppelgreener Deafening Defenestration Demonstration.
@Magician for the concert tour
The elf, who is all about Nature, takes exception to the coyote hat. The wizard says something like, "Don't you know of the wizard's transformation abilities?" because, like, who doesn't know everything about esoteric magical arts? This yokel elf, apparently. He explains that he was transformed into a coyote to learn the secrets of Nature.
I feel like they were really bonding over Nature, but the warrior ruined the moment.
06:59
D&D 5E - Magic armor + magic shield stacking = naked fighters dual-wielding shields.
You mean naked shield battles aren't the norm?
I love naked shield battles. It's like boxing, only wooden.
... OH GODS THE SPLINTERS.
True warriors extract their splinters with stoic pride.
i am confused
07:03
[facedesk]
why would you play 5e except for the naked shield battles
???
is there more to the game that i missed other than those ? ???
@doppelgreener Btw, my overwriting your edit was accidental, it popped up as I was clicking the button.
@doppelgreener Traditional naked shield battles are held in a sandbox pit.
@Miniman how dare you! i challenge you to a naked shield battle!
@doppelgreener Maybe the wizard bikini duels.
07:04
@Pixie Aren't bikinis just tiny cloth shields?
@doppelgreener Alright, but I hope you're prepared to lose.
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Q: How Can I Play A Fighter Dual-Wielding Shields In DnD 4e

JonoI'm rolling my very first DnD character. I'm trying to play a tank-type role in my group as a Dwarf Fighter. While looking through some forums I came across an image of an African warrior wielding 2 shields Is this even a viable option in DnD? What rules do I need to know when building a Dual...

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@Pixie this sounds most excellent. is it gender-neutral? do the men wear the bikinis too?
Ze Internet, it is a silly place.
The sad part is that I'd totally play that type of character.
I tried to do it in Dark Souls, not for the sake of humor.
07:07
i was trying to find capatin america dual wielding shields and I found this
i am not sure if the other part counts as a shield
Sadly, vibranium shields are unavailable in Dark Souls.
@doppelgreener No self-respecting wizard would fail to do so.
@Miniman i am totally unprepared to lose.
@Pixie of course. fantastic.
...googling for "wizard bikini" while at work may not have been the brightest idea ever.
@Magician oh no
07:10
@doppelgreener The fact that my only active 5e character is a Wizard/Rogue and therefore can't actually use shields at all might give you a slight edge, of course.
@Miniman this would not be a legitimate shield battle, and i would dishonour the name of shield battles and my shield battle clan. no, this duel cannot go ahead.
@Magician it did not occur to me to do this and now i will be doing this after work (in a few minutes)
@doppelgreener Hey, not being able to do something has never stopped me before.
Wizard bikini brands are mostly sexual spell innuendos, of course. Fireballs. Flaming Spheres. Wish. Mordenkainen's Spectacular Speedos. Dare I say, Magic Missile.
I am now imagining what sexual innuendos would actually be like in a D&D world where people have all these spells.
"C'mere Elminster, I'm ready for your "Magic Missile"
[20 minutes later]
"20d4+20!"
07:18
Warrior: Wizard, when we barge through that door, you must cast haste on me to give me the time to do my work.
Wizard: Haste is my specialty spell!
Rogue: [is the wizard's ex-lover, eyerolls, deadpan tone.] Isn't it just.
Wizard: Wh... hey! Not cool.
(I think it builds up to that level eventually.)
@Tarmikos11 Stops at 5d4+5 in 3.5, I believe. No idea about 5e.
[shrugs]
@Magician Max in 5e is 11d4 + 11
D&D pick-up lines: "You must be a paladin, because I'm smitten."
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07:20
@doppelgreener My search found depressingly few actual wizards. :c (Unless these are all wizards disguised as models.) I will have to cast a google spell to rectify my keywords.
D&D Pick-up Lines: "Come, Barbarian, let me tame your rage."
Something-something Bigby's Grasping Hands.
Idunno, Magician won with the Paladin thing.
It's the least.... crass of the things that immediately came to mind.
Yep. I guess I'm stuck in Woman of the Night mode.
07:25
@Magician Yeah, I am disallowing myself from participating. This is a pretty work friendly chat, and spells are a goldmine for things that are... not. :v
Oh crap, someone cast Summon Awkward Silence.
Yuuuup.
The Awkward Silence: An invisible monster whose footsteps produce the sound of chirping crickets.
"I've prepared Silence tonight, we're gonna need it. No, seriously, my flat-mates are, like, very annoying."
07:35
@Magician Metamagic!
@Pixie haha!
@IronHeart Not to mention Force Missile Mage
Force Missile Mage is worse for the math necessary to get 20 missiles, funnily enough.
@IronHeart and then apparently everyone in the know chortles knowingly
07:45
[flop]
So what else is new?
I found a thing that turns a can of spray paint into a paint gun.
@IronHeart Naked shield battles have replaced meta discussion as the primary method of conflict resolution on RPG Stack Exchange.
Sweet.
To both of those.
08:04
@Miniman wizard bikini duels are an up and coming alternative.
08:37
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Q: Slang in answers

SardathrionThere's been a little edit war in this answer whether or not to use the term "douchebag" as defined here. If slang is allowed (and I believe it is), then this insulting term should be fine. If it it not, then where do we draw the line? ...

 
3 hours later…
12:05
Good morning
morning
Five hours in the Atlanta airpart..
Jeez
not the worst airport to get stuck in
I just hate airports and flights
airports less than flights themselves though
at least you usually get a little more room to stretch in an airport than you do on a plane
12:25
Yar. Also I much prefer waiting in airparts to rushing for flights.
How's the weather, @Trogdor?
It is currently pretty good
are you on your way back now? I mean when you actually get on a flight
Hullo all. @BESW I hope your flight goes well and you are boarding soon. =)
I'm in Atlanta now.
i would rather be on a plane than waiting in an airport
Coming back about 1am on the 19th.
12:34
I just hate how little space I have to move or stretch on a plane
and there are so few bathrooms for so many people
and the food isn't great either
Right now I just wish they'd tell me what gate I'm boarding at.
Then I could settle down for a good nap while I wait.
The last few weeks I've been running on Friendship instead of sleep.
Oh BESW Atlanta is the state in which I live
Not the city mind, but the state
Normally your gate is on your plane ticket
12:49
They don't assign gates five hours in advance.
You didnt receive a ticket for each of your layover flights?
the ticket doesn't have the gate on it because he arrived so soon in advance, i assume
13:10
hm
@trogdor so far i have made a habit of always requesting a vegetarian meal during booking (hot if possible, hindu vegetarian if possible); i find that here they generally serve a stunningly good curry for that one.
but the regular meals are crummy.
@Pixie that is adorable and fantastic
14:20
@Doppelgreener is your room well lit?
14:41
@Sandwich in general when the lights are on yes
So when the lights are off
Do you get eaten by a grue :)
So far I have had good luck surviving each night so I believe not
Or at least that is my impression
In a world where grue rule the darkness, one man's quest for survival is about to get dark. Starring doppelgreener as the Survivor and Steve Buscemi as the Grue. Grue 2015. Get dark.
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What.
"It is dark. You are likely to be eaten by Steve Buscemi."
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