i also had a portable HDD that bit the dust a couple of weeks ago

though that was due to certain people's ignorance on how hard drives work -_-

thats harsh :/

live and learn. thankfully big flash drives have gotten pretty darn cheap

@tapped-out They did not try to open it?

@tapped-out Like 32GB ones? I think there's now 1TB flash drive.

@Boris_yo they were carrying it on top of their laptop to another room and the drive slipped, came unplugged, and fell to the ground

@JourneymanGeek So your dog smokes pipes?

pfft

@tapped-out Auch!

thats a soft coated wheaten

that looks nothing like a mini schauzer/mystery mutt cross.

Yay! Under 1000 tabs!

lol

I'm suprised your browser didn't explode ;p

Memory usage has... grown?

To 2.5 GB.

@Bob 30% Completed...

I really need a 64-bit build of Firefox...

@JourneymanGeek It's currently in the process of doing so :P

in slow motion? ;p

oh yea

I was wondering what you thought of htis? mwave.com.au/product/…

@Bob I thought I have 64-bit Firefox?

I might buy it.

@Boris_yo Never got around to compiling it.

Prob is, i don't particularly like that keyboard layout :(

@Bob: never heard of it, but that's the second cheapest mechanical I have heard of

Second-cheapest?

what's wrong with the layout?

@JourneymanGeek It was at $100 a few months ago.

@JourneymanGeek I prefer the US one with the smaller enter key and longer backspace.

And the backslash above the enter.

@Bob: TVS gold's the cheapest. Tried to talk @jokerdino or @HackToHell into getting one for science

@Bob Always wondered why is it called mechanical.

@Bob: amusingly, I prefer the layour you dislike

lol

I LOVE the invert L shaped enter key

All of my keyboards use the other, and I use the backslash a lot.

It's far too much trouble to adapt.

And I can't just replace my laptop keyboard.

most of my keyboards are US layout :/

@Bob Yeah especially switch of CTRL and ALT on HP and lenovo laptops.

@JourneymanGeek lol

;p

@Boris_yo What?

Ctrl and Alt are always in the same place, unless you're on a Mac.

@Bob I say that I have lenovo and CTRL and ALT are misplaced i.e switched places. Same layout I saw on HP laptops.

thinkpads have the fn key at the bottom left

What the hell is a plunger switch?

mwave.com.au/product/…

there's a good reason tho

@Boris_yo I have never seen those two keys swapped.

o0

never seen anything like that

Sometimes, the Ctrl and Fn keys are swapped.

But never ctrl + alt

@Bob Correct sir. It is CTRL and Fn.

@Bob: geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36071.0

basically your standard membrane keyboard with a plastic bit 'emulating' a true mechanical switch

@Bob 45$ o0

-_-

@Bob I also hate when Enter key is long shaped and not _|

I confuse it with Backspace.

...you confuse the smaller enter key with the backspace?

I don't even... how?!

ooh flipkart has a 50% off on all games

@Bob I confuse when I don't look at the keyboard when typing. They are almost same length.

but..

lol

do you feel the length of each key? o.O

most of us rely on the position of the key...

;p

maybe its not where he expects it to be

if he expects the enter key to be where backspace is, neither layout is going to help

cool

mwave.com.au/product/…

price isn't too bad

but I just can't justify a $90 keyboard

I THINK @benrichards has one actually

@Bob: blah

wtf is this flipkart.com/…

lol

@HackToHell: it keeps your mouse cord in the air

watever -_-

>_>

I have a ... slightly fancier one...

@Bob Yeah I miss the key I want. That is the problem and press Backspace and Enter.

@JourneymanGeek So you can hang yourself?

@JourneymanGeek pic ?

@JourneymanGeek uh.. how about a bit of string? -_-

o.O

(reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1f1lrl/thanks_firefox)

@Bob WTF...

@HackToHell: plus.google.com/photos/106187684082000485043/albums/…

@Bob: funny story that, had a bunch of vouchers that were expiring, I'd JUST bought my mouse, and that thing looks SERIOUSLY cool >_>

and no, I wouldn't recommend getting one in most cases

@JourneymanGeek You are Ravi?

maybe?

@JourneymanGeek Here's my number

So call me maybe

Nice mouse.

yeah, it is

the first one was DOA tho ;p

this is my second

Hate this annoying Windows restart to apply downloaded updates. Never update unless it is important.

@JourneymanGeek Why you need your mouse cord to be held in the air? Does it really bother?

@Boris_yo: I'd say its a 1% thing

@JourneymanGeek Just to invent that gadget and sell. Because even 1% counts.

this specific one ALSO has USB ports, and that's pretty sweet. But I'd think if I didn't have spare vouchers, I wouldn't have gotten it

@JourneymanGeek These vouchers make you feel missing a world if left unused?

(its a fair bit more expensive than that CM, and the razer equivilent)

@Boris_yo: eh. maybe!

tho I have a 100 dollar voucher off the army I can't use for anything ;p

That's the catch of Groupon so you are left with that feeling. But since you try to avoid it it is what drives Groupon.

lol

Psychological research has shown that people are more affraid to lose than want to win. o.0

Wait...

I liked the damned thing

its SERIOUSLY cool. the built in USB hub's pretty sweet as well

but BUUUUTTT

Unlike some of my other gear, Its not something I'd recommend without reservations

"My table is a complete cable-strewn mess. I need some way to handle my mouse and stuff more neatly.... OH, and I want it to look cool!"

then yes, I would recommend this

If you JUST want a mouse bungee, just get a chinese cheapie off fleabay first

if the concept works for you then consider getting a better one

@JourneymanGeek dx.com/p/…

dx.com/p/…

dx.com/p/scattered-wires-organizer-6-piece-set-106637

I was thinking something like this plus.google.com/photos/106187684082000485043/albums/…

the 'gantry' has a purpose here

@JourneymanGeek based on a scorpion o0?

oooh g+ identified my cat photos :D

plus.google.com/photos/search/cat

amazing

@HackToHell: Not really

why ;p

@HackToHell: I'm not sure who copied who ;p

the apuri has a USB hub built in

@HackToHell: plus.google.com/u/0/106187684082000485043/posts/75xSgR3xuDb

my review ;p

@JourneymanGeek cool font ;p

roccat's stuff tends to be SERIOUSLY well made, slightly finicky on the software side, and somewhat pricy ;p

@HackToHell: standard G+ font methinks

and.. the drive is no longer detected by windows

or bios

holy cow, 707 messages while i was sleeping

you guys have been busy :D

lol

2 were mine!

will take a look at the disk tommorrow

It's anger management for regular people but it's cable management for IT technicians.

@allquixotic Are you catching up?

@allquixotic We'll make sure to give you 500+ pings tomorrow! :D

@Bob So it was 707 pings that he received?

I don't think he was talking about pings...

probably "load to my last message"

@OliverSalzburg You heard about birds falling from the sky and dead fish?

@Boris_yo Yes, constantly

I can't even take a step in front of the house without some stupid fish falling on my head

@OliverSalzburg That's 3rd apocalyptic sign.

And I'm like, get the eff out of here you stupid fish! This isn't the ocean! WTF?!

can't tell if serious xD

@OliverSalzburg Do you carry fish with you for gang fights?

hello

I've tried to install League of Legends and when I ran that game, my screen "broke". Now I have a white layer on the screen

@hey

please help me

that white layer takes ~40% of the screen

it's probably broken and I can do nothing about it? because even when I am booting I see that thing

@hey Did you check the cable

it's laptop

might be a GPU issue

@hey try plugging in an external monitor

don't have one...

ich

yeah, probably GPU. what laptop?

i tried going to windows, to ubuntu, tthe same

and it shows this white layer on the booting

@Boris_yo I don't get into many gang fights

and when i do printscreen, this layer is not seen, so it's probably over...

prolly a hardware issue, could be a bad cable or a fried chip :(

Get it to a repair station

forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-3000-and-Essential/…

Trying booting without the battery

how will it boot without battery?

run it off the AC

thanks, i'll try.

hope you get it resolved, graphics issues suck D:

hey guys

How does .NET framework work ?

I have like 4 or 5 different versions of it installled

@EinsteinsGrandson It's basically a series of pipes

I mean, I can't uninstall all of them but one ... .uninstlaling NET Framework 2.0, 3.0 , 3.5 and keeping only 4.0 ?

answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/…

official answer

So, I will better keep all of them

;o)

@EinsteinsGrandson Information provided "as is" with no warranties or guarantees.

He's an MVP, so it's not official

OK, but still... it's also said in the link Oliver provided

That it's better to keep them all

;o)

@tapped-out I tried, it didn't work :(

ouch, you got LoL'ed

yeah...

why did i even need to try this piece of shit game

@allquixotic does it have a propensity for killing graphics cards?

and I was "turning up" the light with F5 when it happened

does this fact change anything?

could mean nothing, or it could mean that it's the screen and not the GFX card

pretty... strange... timing for the screen to go out

but a screen repair is usually less expensive than replacing the laptop GFX (it usually needs a whole new logic board)

@EinsteinsGrandson 1.1, 3.5 and 4.5

1.0 and 1.1 used the same version of the CLR. Likewise for 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and 4,0, 4.5.

nice graphic here

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb822049.aspx

@OliverSalzburg that is the most horribly answered question I've seen

all the answers contradict each other

and half are just plain wrong

@Bob i like that infographic, that actually helps =D

So, @Bob what do you mean by that?

;o)

that if I have 3.5, i don't need to have 3.0 and 2.0 installed?

@EinsteinsGrandson right

ok, thanks

@EinsteinsGrandson More specifically, 3.5 is a superset of 3.0, which is a superset of 2.0

3.5 essentially contains 3.0 and 2.0

but 4.5 is not the subset of all , right?

4.5 is essentially a superset of 4.0

superset, not subset

4.0 would be a subset of 4.5

though they did increment the CLR version number

> Although the .NET Framework 4.5 is an in-place update of the .NET Framework 4, the underlying CLR version number is referred to as CLR 4.5.

Down to under 950 tabs! :D

@allquixotic would still complain, though :P

@Bob you must have an ungodly amount of RAM...

@tapped-out most tabs are unloaded

FF is currently using 1.6 GB of 8 GB of RAM

ah okay

meanwhile, i have 11 tabs open and Chrome's using 1 GB of 2 xD

for all the crap FF gets, they've really worked on memory usage

I am sorry, I meant the superset

I use Opera and can have 100+ open tabs at the same time

having only 2 GB of RAM

From time to time, it crashes though

;o)

FF, Safari, IE can't do that

I don't use Chrome, so I can't say if it can...

below 850 now :D

@tapped-out they've improved that a lot since the days of 3.5.x and 4.x

Chrome is the memory hog now

@EinsteinsGrandson FF can't do that?

Yeah

Ahem.

After like 20 tabs, it freezes

though hopefully switching to Blink will help reduce code bloat a bit

@EinsteinsGrandson I had over 50 on a machine with 2 GB of RAM

and that was before the bulk of the memory improvements

those 1380 were in FF ?

ooooh zer0byte.com/2013/05/26/kim-dotcom-daddy-factor-authentication

"Didn’t think Kim Dotcom could cry me river."

Who wrote that? Holy cow...

ikr ?

down under 700 tabs :D

closing a bunch

chucking some into Pocket

saving some

> View his paten here on Goolge.

I have like 1 millions saved tabs

;o)

or maybe 100.000

I didn't count it

So, it's normal to have 1380 tabs open

@Tanner I don't know what's worse, that he didn't proof read, or that he might have O__O

Oh, how much I missed the Pringles smiley.

@JourneymanGeek @Bob Not that particular keyboard. I have Cooler Master Storm Trigger with Cherry MX Browns.

amazon.com/CM-Storm-Trigger-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B007TFOO6K

Hmm... Got a dodgy question... probably not fit for main site... I have a customer that I need to access but their ip has changed... I know that the ISP has put this customer in a /21 block so there is only ~2k valid addresses... I Don't think it is illegal as I am only accessing something publically available and not hacking/cracking... I know how to port scan, but, anyone know a bulk way to pass the output? e.g. want to connect to them all on port 80 and just see if it returns a string.

hmm, in the entire subnet, only 4 responded to that port, and I found it manually on the second... Still, if anyone knows, I would love an automated way for future use!

IMO I don't see why this isn't suited for main...

because, it could be used for evil! :)

lol, mind you, I suppose most things can be twisted that way...

laughs maniacally well yes

@William Hello William, a few months ago I recall seeing a powershell script on the microsoft script repository that was designed to poll a particular port until a valid response was returned. I guess this could be modified quite easily for your purpose? I seem to recall that this script was primarily written for checking whether RDP 3389 was up.

rather than keep polling though - in your case you'd want it to try once and then move onto the next destination ip.

@Fitzroy Thanks - interesting... I don't suppose you have a link? If not, I'll try to find it in a minute

@WilliamHilsum I can probably dif

@WilliamHilsum I can probably dig the link up.

sorry - dont know what the hell just happened to my pc there

alternatively theres a very good http com object i've used in the past. its accessble in vbscript and therefore must be accessible from powershell too.

there's probably a .net object no doubt but i've more experience of com.

for those who were in chat last night and wanted a report back on exhaust shroud on vs. exhaust shroud off (@JourneymanGeek, @OliverSalzburg)

No exhaust shroud
--------------------
Average CPU temp = 79 degrees C
Max CPU temp = 81 degrees C
Max case temp = 70 degrees C

Exhaust shroud attached
------------------------
Average CPU temp = 79 degrees C
Max CPU temp = 80 degrees C
Max case temp = 69 degrees C

not a statistically significant difference