Root Access

tapped-out

00:04

umm. your demo program works fine on my 7 machine :o

how long of a recording do you want? @OliverSalzburg

Oliver Salzburg

@tapped-out It ends at some point

tapped-out

okay, i'll let it run to completion

Oliver Salzburg

So, I would want the whole thing

tapped-out

is 1920x1080 an acceptable resolution or should i try to find something more square?

Oliver Salzburg

@tapped-out It's designed for 1600:1200

tapped-out

00:12

swaps monitors

Oliver Salzburg

So, that would be optimal

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: I have such a system, but its still chkdisking ;p

Oliver Salzburg

It's like 2:15 here

I should have went sleeping a long time ago

Well

That's what I thought 6 hours ago

I like this track soundcloud.com/figure/supersonicbrainwaves

And I didn't even need All Access to get it WooHooooooo

And np hTunes either WooooHeeooooJeeeee

tapped-out

any ideas on how long it should run?

Oliver Salzburg

@tapped-out 7mins max There is a reference video

tapped-out

00:22

oh that's right

Oliver Salzburg

Like: capped.tv/playeralt.php?vid=titan-lutsch_mein_schwanz

tapped-out

it's running quite nicely now on my 7 x64 machine, should be done in a couple of minutes

Oliver Salzburg

awesome!

This is really intensely awesome news for me

tapped-out

hehe glad to help out a fellow Super User

Oliver Salzburg

oliver.hartwig-at.de/~oliver/…

tapped-out

00:29

404 :P

Oliver Salzburg

Sec

Try again

cloud.hartwig-at.de/~oliver/…

Bob

@OliverSalzburg ok, 1280x1024 is probably useless :P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob It's a start

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Looks like @tapped-out has it covered anyway :P

Oliver Salzburg

Hopefully

tapped-out

00:37

Oliver Salzburg

I need to see le video!!!

tapped-out

something tells me i need to convert that :P

i'm gonna have to work on this tomorrow @OliverSalzburg

that file is sooooo huge that everything crashes on it

VLC, handbrake, Freemake

Oliver Salzburg

I'll have to sleep as well

tapped-out

00:52

sorry about that

but at least it works, so that's something!

plus, that computer is probably fast enough to do Fraps, so i'll get something cooked up

Bob

@tapped-out yea, you might want a little bit of compression

it may interest you to know that AVI files are actually supposed to have a 4 GB limit

probably why things crash

tapped-out

that would explain it

Bob

@tapped-out fraps doesn't compress. last time I tried it, it actually started choking the framerate of the recorded program some way in, when it hit 4 GB

tapped-out

hmm. since the AVI is just raw frames (no compression) i wonder if there's any way to split it into 4 gig chunks

Bob

I think @slhck was our resident ffmpeg expert :P

Oliver Salzburg

00:59

It's 3:00

I need to enter sleep time

tapped-out

@OliverSalzburg 'night

allquixotic

01:42

soulhack is more like ffmpeghack :P

although i wonder if he's partial to libav

tapped-out

i just need to find some way to compress this massively huge file

yawns tomorrow's adventure :P

Ben Richards

02:13

What's really the difference between a Core i5 and a Core i7?

tapped-out

@BenRichards see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning

Ben Richards

I know what binning is. What's the technical difference?

tapped-out

what do you mean? like feature wise?

i5s don't have hyperthreading, for example

and (check me) generally aren't as highly clocked

Ben Richards

Feature wise. Why should one get an i7 over an i5? And thanks. Intel product numbering is confusing as hell.

I wish this was an AMD motherboard. So much easier to research.

I see, yeah, i7 has HT, i5 does not

tapped-out

if i recall correctly i7 has extra cache?

soandos

02:19

@BenRichards also might not have virtualization, unlocked clock, (not sure)

@tapped-out I think i5 also has an L3

Ben Richards

@soandos Ok. This is for my brother. Don't have to go all out.

Tanner

anyone have a resume building type thingy they like?

Ben Richards

And seriously, there's no pattern to this: intel.com/content/www/us/en/processor-comparison/…

soandos

might not be as large (i7 has a 6MB L3)

i5 also has switchable graphics (not all i7s have this if I recall correctly)

Ben Richards

I have a motherboard I got free at PAX. I want to match the CPU accordingly.

Aha

Intel DH61ZE desktop board, btw.

tapped-out

02:20

@soandos think you mean integrated

Journeyman Geek

I used the Google docs templates

soandos

@tapped-out, no, I mean switchable

you can have both integrated and and a discrete card, and lack the ability to swap between them

tapped-out

ahhh

Ben Richards

I like how they all say "smart performance"

soandos

This is a problem for a lot of mac I think (they have an i5, but can't switch under bootcamp)

Journeyman Geek

02:21

Ooh
@benrichards i7 is faster k is unlocked

Ben Richards

@soandos Aha

@JourneymanGeek I don't care about overclocking with this build

Ok

I think i'll probably do an i5. At least, if the pricing makes sense.

Tanner

@JourneymanGeek I forget, did you get that job you were going for? (Not related to my resume question ;P just reminded me)

Ben Richards

So 'spensive! :P

AMD doesn't support Intel sockets anymore, right?

hehe

I wonder if Intel makes it so confusing so people will tend to give up and buy the more expensive processor because it'll probably be better and have what you want.

:P

tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/…

What a review!
> This CPU is everything you need and more yes this isn't the i7 but unless you are an extreme programmer you wont notice the difference.

I wonder if I'm an "extreme programmer"? Hmm :P

You know Emacs really taxes my CPU. :P

tapped-out

snickers

though i bet by "extreme programmer" he meant Linux kernel dev

or better yet, Firefox dev

Ben Richards

Holy crap! tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/…

Since I'm using my old case and the motherboard was free, should I? Hmmm...

This is for my brother, btw :)

Or, actually, maybe I'll get a new case, one that's not so big.

Yeah, might splurge. We'll see how it prices out.

tapped-out

02:34

SSD > case

i really noticed the difference when i added one

Ben Richards

Yeah

My tablet has one. Love it.

tapped-out

Chrome loads almost instantly

it's fantastic

Ben Richards

It always loaded almost instantly though :P

tapped-out

it took a few seconds when i had an HDD

though one wonders if that was a misconfiguration of something

Ben Richards

tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/…

Looks interesting

Journeyman Geek

02:40

@tanner: they phone interviewed me, and asked me to get back to them shortly before I graduate

@benrichards practically a core i5 is enough

Ben Richards

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, I'm getting that.

soandos

Anyone know when the Haswell chips are going to be in machines?

Ben Richards

Dang. The hardest thing is speccing the PSU. What kind of wattage should I go for with this? Core i5 3550. It's 77W

tapped-out

you just sticking with integrated graphics?

Ben Richards

May give him one of my MSI Radeon HD 6970 Lightning cards.

soandos

02:44

@BenRichards I think for most builds you'll want ~500W ish

tapped-out

ah, that's a no

Ben Richards

I do plan on upgrading my own cards.

It might not be right away though.

@soandos Good to know.

tapped-out

chem final tomorrow \o/ 'night Super Users

Ben Richards

Night, @tapped-out!

Looks nice: tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/…

Good review: jonnyguru.com/…

soandos

@BenRichards can you wait until haswell comes out?

(~month or so)

Ben Richards

02:52

@soandos Maybe, why?

soandos

that will drive down prices on ivy bridge

Ben Richards

Aha, cool.

soandos

or you can get the haswell chips

whichever you want

Ben Richards

Driving down prices is a good thing :)

soandos

yup

Ben Richards

02:52

I can let it sit in my cart for a while.

I have Patriot ram. It serves me well. I'll get more!

soandos

whats so special about it?

Ben Richards

I don't know. It works? :P

soandos

you've have non-working ram?

Ben Richards

I haven't had issues with crap ram, anyway :P

No. But it works. So I'll buy again. :P

soandos

how much is it?

Ben Richards

02:54

tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/…

$40

Haswell is to be released June 4.

That's like 2 weeks. I can wait.

2x4GB ram sticks, 550W PSU, 500GB SSD, & Core i5-3550 currently prices to $789.95.

I supply a motherboard, graphics card and case, and that might work.

Good deal?

Journeyman Geek

3550 is sandy bridge, isn't it?

er nvm, brainfart

Ben Richards

Yeah, I don't know. :P

Journeyman Geek

naw, its IB

you can put a SB processor in a IB board tho

Ben Richards

aha

500GB is my bare minimum for drive capacity, these days.

1 TB is preferred.

Journeyman Geek

eheh

Ben Richards

03:01

I have to be very conscious about what I put on my tablet, with only 128 GB :P

Journeyman Geek

I'm getting a 3-4 tb drive when I have the cash

my 1tb drive is acting up :/

Ben Richards

cool

aww

Journeyman Geek

could be a while, still waiting on the headphone shop

calling em next week to see what the hell is going on

Ben Richards

aha

Journeyman Geek

then if they can't bring it in for me, order online like I shoulda in the first place

especially since they sell direct now

Ben Richards

03:02

:P

Journeyman Geek

but noooo... I wanted to actually support local retailers.

rss.feedsportal.com/c/35208/f/653965/s/2c4fa8a7/l/…

o0

Ben Richards

Oh of course! Removable media!

Journeyman Geek

totally unrelated

o0

your tablet DOES have an micro SD card right? ;p

(but no USB OTG)

which is frigging awesome on mine ;p

Ben Richards

Hmm? I have an SD card reader/Sony thingamajig reader and 2xUSB3.0

Journeyman Geek

ahhh

Oh, THAT sorta tablet

not the nerfed sort running a semi cut down, hobbled OS :p

OH

Ben Richards

03:06

:P

Journeyman Geek

OH

another thing

core i7s are quad core, core i5s are dual core. Both are hyperthreaded.

KNEW I was forgetting something

Ben Richards

Naw, it looked on the Intel site that it said i7 were hyperthreaded, most i5s were not.

Gonna go, see ya!

Bob

05:18

@JourneymanGeek I thought there were a few i5s with quad?

Journeyman Geek

05:48

not as far as I recall

might be wrong tho

Leathe

10:03

i5's are quad core

I don't think there even are i5's that are dual core

ChrisF

Potentially stupid question: Could a failing/underpowered power supply cause the computer to run slow?

The fan in the power supply in this machine is making noises like it's constantly struggling or about to fail. It's got worse recently so I'm thinking I'll have to replace it sooner rather than later.

Leathe

how long is it since you've cleaned it? :b

Journeyman Geek

define slow?

ChrisF

Coincidentally the machine has started having occasional problems booting - it gets stuck at the "Starting Windows" screen. A reboot works.

Journeyman Geek

@Leathe: so wierd. I could have sworn they were hyperthreaded dual cores

Leathe

10:07

doesn't sound like a PSU problem

Journeyman Geek

@ChrisF: the booting issue - check event viewer

ChrisF

@JourneymanGeek Takes ages to boot mainly. Once it's running apps (apart from Chrome) seem to work fine.

Journeyman Geek

@ChrisF: sounds like my old XP install

(which I never worked out what was wrong, took 10-15 minutes to boot, than ran normally)

Leathe

@JourneymanGeek i5s aren't hyperthreaded :I just one thread per core

I think i3's might be hyperthreaded tho

Journeyman Geek

@Leathe: i5s are TOTALLY hyperthreaded

ChrisF

10:09

@JourneymanGeek Done that, I can't see anything. There were some apparent disk errors a few weeks ago, but I checked the cables etc and that seems to have disappeared.

Journeyman Geek

as I understood it, core i3 is dual core, no HT, core I5 is dual core HT

ChrisF

@Leathe That was my thinking, but the timing seemed too coincidental.

Journeyman Geek

ok, i5s DO seem to be quad core, hyperthreaded

my bad

Bob

@JourneymanGeek cough

i5-750

ChrisF

@Leathe Fairly recently

Leathe

10:11

some i5's have hyperthreading yeah

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: looks like I misremembered

>_>

Bob

actually, just about all the desktop ones

Journeyman Geek

OH

that would explain it

headesks

Bob

quad core mobile (Intel) processors are rare

Journeyman Geek

my laptop is a SB core i5

Bob

10:12

in fact, they're typically the QM models

I think they might be i7 only, too

(I'm on an i7-3632QM)

Oliver Salzburg

@tapped-out Any luck with the recording?

ChrisF

Might go for the new PSU anyway. The noise is somewhat annoying and the current one is 400W which doesn't have that much overhead for the 3 hard drives and a nVidia GT 250 graphics card I have installed. If the "slowness" persists it might be time for a reinstall of Windows.

Bob

@OliverSalzburg oh yea, I was going to try, wasn't I?

what was that link?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob This one? ftp.untergrund.net/users/irokos/titan/…

Bob

1920x1080 alright?

that's the biggest monitor I have :P

Oliver Salzburg

10:14

Well, that's the download link

@Bob It was designed for 4:3, so 1600x1200 would be great

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I have a 1280x1024 and a 1920x1080. and a 1366x768 laptop

that's all :P

Oliver Salzburg

Well, see if it runs first. We'll figure out the rest later :D

Maybe it can be captured windowed in a 4:3 resolution. I don't think it handles other aspect ratios well

Bob

@OliverSalzburg AA? Quality?

Ref Renderer?

Why is Vsync greyed out?

o.O

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob On max

Bob

I'll be capturing with Snagit's video recorder

Oliver Salzburg

10:19

@Bob Disable

Bob

"Insane"

I like the sound of that :P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Couldn't get it to work with the rendering pipeline in that engine iteration :(

Urgh.... computer BSOD when I woke it up. Skype forgot everything again :P

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I see weird shapes :P

whoops

Oliver Salzburg

So did WhatPulse. What are these applications doing? Loading their cache from disk into RAM and then they delete the cache from disk or what?

Bob

it doesn't seem to handle being alt tabbed out well

Oliver Salzburg

10:22

@Bob I'd say that's good! :D

@Bob It doesn't, at all ;D

Bob

wait a sec

closing some programs, shifting chat to the secondary monitor...

o.O

I have two dates on an unsaved notepad window

that's been there for at least a month

no idea what they're for anymore :P

Leathe

are they in hour:minute day:month:year sort of format?

Bob

..

damn it

Leathe

hm?

Bob

@OliverSalzburg it also does not like losing focus

just tried clicking in chat on the other monitor D:

Oliver Salzburg

10:29

@Bob It likes being the center of focus ;D

Bob

oh damn

snagit completely failed to capture it, too

Oliver Salzburg

Try kkrunchy perhaps

That's usually the go-to tool to capture stuff like this

Then again... I don't know if it'll work because of the config dialog

Bob

whoops

needed to update snagit

Journeyman Geek

@ChrisF: the reinstall is the first thing I'd try ;p

Bob

O.O

"The file 'UNIDRV.DLL' on Windows Installation Disc is needed."

Haven't seen THAT kind of popup in.. who knows how long

Leathe

10:46

quite a few reoccuring questions about multiboot have popped up

not recently, but during these past few days

hm, interesting: superuser.com/questions/599231/…

Bob

well, it captures the audio

no video yet

Leathe

if I get the time, I might write that guide over the weekend myself o.o

Bob

screw it

I think I have a copy of hypercam somewhere

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