Root Access

Journeyman Geek

00:06

aww shit

amazon dosen't ship here directly

/me got a level 3, is picking up an SSD most likely

hmm, comgateway shipping is about 20 bucks on the estimated weight ;)

oh damnit

they have the older version of the drive I want up for international shipping but not the new one

Paul

00:24

@JourneymanGeek Have you tried shipito.com ? I have used it before to get around Amazon shipping limitations.

Journeyman Geek

@Paul: will be using comgateway

brother uses them, and calculated shipping costs on their side to be acceptable

Paul

Aaah right, same thing

Journeyman Geek

about 17 bucks out of pocket, the drive I want is roughly 179USD

Journeyman Geek

00:35

@TomWijsman actually I never had a problem with the T-Shirt. It was the hoodie. I really should just change my name to Geek Journeyman shouldn't I, would solve the whole problem ;p

Tom Wijsman

:P

Journeyman Geek

I totally do not have a problem with Miss Swift

;p

Immagonnalettyacontinue...

but the young lady does have talent (and is cute ;p)

just not my sorta music ;p

Simon Sheehan

01:06

@slhck @DanielBeck either of you around at the moment? Need a mac expert :p

If you get around - I have 3 Mac's at school that I can't even start. Whenever it tries to load the airport.Atheros40 driver, it just dies. I can't even start recovery tools because that loads it as well. I have no clue what has caused it on all 3 at once. They are 2011 iMac's running 10.7.

Journeyman Geek

aviationweek.com/… oh god, this is cool

Journeyman Geek

01:29

0

A: Can a power failure or forceful shutdown damage hardware?

computer users unite against scamming hackers and those companies that offer mediocre virus killers we are doomed to those that will steal your id momey and who knows what damn them im sick of indian accents that offer help as bait then swith and con u to pay a fee

Paul

What username are they referring to on the Win8Challenge prize google doc?

Tom Wijsman

@Paul Paul? :)

Paul

@TomWijsman Yeah, well there are lots of people with "Paul" as their ID. Perhaps my 89018 number?

Or my openid?

Tom Wijsman

@Paul Is there any other winner named Paul? :D

I think it's just a check you're on the list.

KronoS

Grrrr... stupid word press. Interpret my HTML correctly would ya?

Tom Wijsman

01:35

They cross your name off, then they quickly figure out whether multiple Pauls tried and investigate that further.

Paul

I hope there are other winners with Paul as an ID as then I could get their prizes!

Tom Wijsman

It's why I think they ask to respond to the mail for the other prices.

KronoS

@Paul how do you have access to that?

Paul

To what?

KronoS

The google doc

Paul

01:40

@KronoS I got an email telling me I had won, so I have to complete the form

KronoS

@Paul Oh... well nvm... forget I said anything :P

> If "cellpadding" won't work, you can apply padding to each td tag: <td style="padding:5px;">

That's ridiculous

Bob

bank websites...

Paul

@KronoS Can't you do that in css?\

Bob

when I don't want chat support, pop them up every page

when I want it, there's no link anywhere

:(

KronoS

@Paul I don't have access to the css within WordPress

Paul

01:44

@KronoS Not even in`<head>`?

KronoS

Uh.... now you're getting above my html knowledge domain

Bob

<table style="blahblah">

@Paul I don't think you have head access within a wordpress post? :S

actually, I have no idea

Paul

@Bob Right, I don't know it so well. You can put <style> tags anywhere right - they don't have to be in <head>?

Bob

@Paul lud.icro.us/wordpress-plugin-head-meta

need a plugin - default wordpress has a global head, it appears

w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#h-14.2.3

> HTML permits any number of STYLE elements in the HEAD section of a document.

You probably want inline: w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#h-14.2.2

Paul

So if the table has an id - lets say <table id="mytable>, then you can have <style>table#mytable td {padding: 5px;}</style>

Bob

01:47

@Paul only in the head

inline is a style attribute on any tag

Paul

@Bob Yeah, I see

Bob

so something like <table style="padding: 5px;">

Paul

@Bob That is @KronoS problem - putting a style on every td sucks

Bob

wait.. would putting it in the table tag work?

KronoS

@Bob I don't know... I added the style to all the cells, and left it at that

Paul

01:49

@Bob No, I think that should only pad the table itself, not descendent elements

KronoS

@Bob did you do the windows 8 stats thingy?

Bob

@KronoS yea

KronoS

what's the address?

Bob

win8challengestats.co.cc

uh oh..

it's down

KronoS

And does it stop collecting info for posts after the contest end date?

Bob

01:51

@KronoS I stopped it about three hours after

KronoS

@Bob Well hurry up and get it up and going!

I want to feature it in the blog :P

@DanielBeck you around?

Bob

weird.

The server is up.

ah crud.

co.cc (the NS) is down :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: almost tempted to suggest modding it to see who got suspended ;p

but thats just evil

.co.cc is dodgy by nature ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek and difficult

I'm missing votes from posts created before contest start

KronoS

@JourneymanGeek I think @Bob should add a "Wall of Shame" section

Bob

01:54

so it would miss quite a few people

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: see who of the people who qualified had a sudden loss of rep around this period? ;p

ronalchn

@Bob quick, get a co.nr or .tk domain

Bob

hm.. ok :P

Journeyman Geek

I read that as... 'get a north korea domain'

Bob

urgh.. why the plaintext password

ok

win8challengestats.tk should work

hm.. the answers aren't adding up, either. brb, fixing

ronalchn

02:08

you should be aware that .tk domains are only for 12 months, whereas .co.nr (fake) domains are perpetual (as long as they are active)

Bob

well, my main domain is a year registration anyway :P

just not using it here cause the whois contains personal information

which I'd like to keep secret for now

oh, and thanks for the suggestion

hm.. no idea why the open/closed 'overall' section does not add up

anyone here know python/the SE API?

KronoS

Whoa:

in The Comms Room, 2 mins ago, by jscott

Anatomy of an Attack: How I Hacked StackOverflow: Almost two years ago I had stumbled upon a pretty significant ... http://bit.ly/VXOlBH

Tweeted by ircmaxell on November 12, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Tom Wijsman

3 hours ago, by Tom Wijsman

@allquixotic http://blog.ircmaxell.com/2012/11/anatomy-of-attack-how-i-hacked.html

Yeah, although it's an attack of 2 years ago and probably not the first.

KronoS

@TomWijsman show off :P

Tom Wijsman

@KronoS I actually have a place in mind where this trick still might work, but too bothered to try out.

Although I'd assume they check all the occurences.

HackToHell

02:21

sorry did not see the stars

All hail my download speed :P

Bob

Anyone here familiar with the SE API?

KronoS

@Bob a little why?

soandos

@HackToHell what error caused that?

HackToHell

no idea, download was running all night

Bob

@KronoS Question and answer counts for global closed/open posts don't add up on my site :\

I'm trying to figure out if I'm using the API incorrectly :P

Is a check for the existence of closed_date enough to determine if it's closed?

KronoS

02:26

@Bob I think so

Bob

weird.

and it works per user, which is even weirder

KronoS

Does it return a "null" date i.e. 0/0/000 00:00:0000?

Bob

even then.. something's probably wrong with my code

Oh. Oh

facepalm

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: I think at least the level 1 and 3 e mails are out

Bob

answers contains answers from questions before the contest start (where the answer was added later)

most of my processing was with questions, though

can't fix it now, grabbing the data again would be inaccurate :\

ronalchn

02:33

well, you can traverse the reputation changes to count the votes lol

Bob

@ronalchn that.. is a good idea

I'm an idiot :P

jokerdino

@Bob :)

Bob

@jokerdino Do you just sit here waiting for me to say that?

Every time.

jokerdino

:)

ronalchn

maybe it's a bot

Bob

02:35

ok, time to rebuild this whole thing

jokerdino

actually, it's just the second time.

Journeyman Geek

see, he's even keeping count!

jokerdino

dude, stop it right there :P

or else, the fox will run over us.

Journeyman Geek

metro.co.uk/weird/… thats pretty badass

jokerdino

woah

Journeyman Geek

02:44

In soviet russia, granma kill wolf!

3

Bob

Eh, it's Russia.

Ярослав Рахматуллин

thats right

:)

jokerdino

novelty accounts.

Journeyman Geek

(well formerly soviet russia anyway)

jokerdino

almost like he was waiting for someone to talk about Russia :P

Journeyman Geek

02:45

@Bob: where squirrels eat dogs? ;p

Ярослав Рахматуллин

russia is watchink you comrade

jokerdino

Comrades!

Journeyman Geek

russia will get bored to death

and get more entertainment watching paint dry

jokerdino

:D

Bob

Russians killing predatory animals with their bare hands? Just everyday life.

Ярослав Рахматуллин

02:47

ok i have other channels to monitor for suspicious anti-soviet activity

Bob

The axe was a nice touch, though.

Ярослав Рахматуллин

tata

jokerdino

Hm, we got a spy right here.

Ярослав Рахматуллин

Tbh, I don't find that shocking. Anyone, anywhere would axe a wolf if it jumped at them.

Journeyman Geek

assuming you walked around with an ax

and had wolves wandering around

Matthew Wong

02:57

burned

jokerdino

lol

Journeyman Geek

lol

nhinkle

don't you start with that "lol" stuff again :P

Journeyman Geek

I think @nhinkle is almost enjoying this

jokerdino

@nhinkle haha

Matthew Wong

03:00

lol

jokerdino

you guys almost pissed off every AU mod

Matthew Wong

almost

Journeyman Geek

almost?

nhinkle

they'll recover :P

ronalchn

I might not recover from getting only a tshirt though :(

Matthew Wong

03:01

@ronalchn i know that feel

i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/107/432/…

Journeyman Geek

@ronalchn: see, this is why I had realistic expectations. Anything over the t shirt is just gravy

well, gravy over the tshirt would be bad

especially if it didn't come off

ronalchn

As a mathematician, I considered the "expected value"

expected value = value of prize * probability of winning it

Journeyman Geek

@ronalchn: I took into account actual work (not much, I answered just enough questions), to benefit

ronalchn

and the expected value was around $30+

Journeyman Geek

which of course included a metric crapton of rep

Matthew Wong

03:05

afaik you have the most rep in this room

im trying to look for questions to answer but i know nothing.

i'm feeling really dumb right now

ronalchn

I comfort myself by considering (rep)/(registered time)

Journeyman Geek

precisely

nhinkle

@JourneymanGeek did you get your email yet?

Journeyman Geek

@MatthewWong: I probably do

@nhinkle: ya, level 3 ;p

nhinkle

@JourneymanGeek I know, I was just wondering if you know :P

congrats :)

Journeyman Geek

03:06

XD

New SSD problem solved ;p

just need to decide if I want to get my own transhipping account or to use my brother's

Matthew Wong

@nhinkle superuser.com/questions/505337/why-cant-i-post-here

not sure what to flag as

off topic?

Journeyman Geek

flag off topic, MSU

Matthew Wong

oh i didn't even see msu

Journeyman Geek

;)

@MatthewWong I probably do. One or two answers every day adds up over 3 years

Bob

@JourneymanGeek what, not all?

At the very least, 4 should have come out first

or before 3, anyway

unless they're intentionally delaying it :P

Journeyman Geek

03:17

@Bob: well those are what I got

;p

Matthew Wong

might as well keep my hopes down. getting a tablet out of 20 people. my chances aren't very high :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

about 15%

Matthew Wong

did ronalchn calculate that?

Journeyman Geek

no, actually I did ;p

Bob

2/20?

Journeyman Geek

03:21

2/20 + 1/19

Bob

.

jokerdino

Yes that.

Journeyman Geek

my math ain't all that great

Bob

no..

that would be 1/20 + 1/19, wouldn't it?

:S

Journeyman Geek

maybe

jokerdino

03:22

@Bob yeah

Journeyman Geek

MATH IS HARD.

Matthew Wong

10% chance

Bob

close 'nuff :P

Matthew Wong

if @bob is right

Bob

We need @ronalchn

jokerdino

03:23

10.3 %

Matthew Wong

@ronalchn

Journeyman Geek

well, if you won, you probably know by now ;p

Bob

true

Journeyman Geek

so its moot!

Bob

I cannot confirm any of that :P

Matthew Wong

03:23

moot?

Bob

moot.

Matthew Wong

noot?

Bob

typo

Hennes

Who said math is hard. Math is fun!

Bob

she should get her spine checked

Matthew Wong

03:25

spam F5 in email inbox

Bob

weight distribution is also a little off

Journeyman Geek

Mootness

In American law, a matter is moot if further legal proceedings with regard to it can have no effect, or events have placed it beyond the reach of the law. Thereby the matter has been deprived of practical significance or rendered purely academic. This is different from the ordinary British meaning of "", which means "debatable". The shift in usage was first observed in the United States. The U.S. development of this word stems from the practice of moot courts, in which hypothetical or fictional cases were argued as a part of legal education. These purely academic issues led the U.S. c...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That's a legal term?!

O.O

Journeyman Geek

TIL....

Matthew Wong

bricks have been shat

Journeyman Geek

03:26

Bob

Here I was thinking it was some random colloquialism

jokerdino

@Hennes hey, that is vietnamese

Journeyman Geek

this however is a malamute, also referred to as a 'moot'

Hennes

I have a 'stuff' directory in which I collect fun stuff.

such as the above one. Or these:

nhinkle

@MatthewWong weird. Looks like he hit the answer ban after self-deleting all of his questions and answers, all of which were negatively scored.

Bob

03:27

Also known as imgur.com/r/aww

I still have a little hope, hence the twitch every time I receive an email.

Typical that today ranks as the msot emails I've received in the last month, at least.

Matthew Wong

@bob im just refreshing my inbox

ronalchn

03:59

@MatthewWong I think if you get the tshirt email, then it means you haven't won anything else

was offline while on bus home

Matthew Wong

04:13

@ronalchn nuuuuuuuuu

Sathya

04:32

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Q: You like them hats?

Last year around Christmas time arQAde had a little promotion in which they awarded hats for gravatars for completing basic tasks around the site. Here's a link to the promo from last year (and a blog post). This year, SE is planning to run it across all the sites - but wait! For this pro...

6

morning

jokerdino

WAANTT!!

Can you CW your answer? :P

Paul

@Sathya Bah humbug! Hats? Pfft! (upvoted ;)

Sathya

@jokerdino why wiki? Meta rep means nothing :/

still, done :/

HackToHell

I think I got just a t shirt

Did anyone get anything else ?

jokerdino

@Sathya i feel bad downvoting posts.

Sathya

04:38

@jokerdino don't then O-o

jokerdino

Downvoted your No now :P

Also, I get to edit them! yay

HackToHell

arstechnica.com/business/2012/11/…

wow

@Sathya did you get any prize ?

Paul

@Sathya Hang on, why are there two answers? Surely people could just upvote or downvote the "yes", and if it remains positive, then we get hats? Should I be down voting "no" too?

jokerdino

@Paul to create an illusion that you get to choose things.

HackToHell

lol

Paul

04:47

@jokerdino Aah. That seems reasonable then.

jokerdino

Psychologically, people want lots of choices. But would more spend more time when there are less.

r.tanner.f

05:04

My neighbor had me take a look at her virus laden laptop today, and there happened to be a "24-hour support hotline" popup; one of those things where they want to log in and look through your computer for ~~passwords and personal data~~ problems. I watched them do it in a VM just now...

Journeyman Geek

lol

r.tanner.f

Going to call back from a different number with more devious plans. Any suggestions? =D I'm thinking a tarbomb is a must.

Journeyman Geek

the good ol passwords.zip?

r.tanner.f

Yup. And probably a creditcardnumbers.doc full of the most disgusting images I can legally obtain.

jokerdino

42.zip yo

@r.tanner.f just download /r/spacedicks

Journeyman Geek

05:06

maybe a few screamers labelled porn.zip?

Bob

bankdata.zip

Journeyman Geek

I hope you nuked the laptop from orbit?

r.tanner.f

@JourneymanGeek Going to this weekend. Don't really have time during the week...

nhinkle

Oooh. This sounds fun.

Tom Wijsman

@r.tanner.f If you doubt their legality, you could always use Tor.

nhinkle

05:09

This would be a fun crowdsourcing game

you could have a world-writable anonymous FTP server

files/folders are automatically copied from the FTP root onto the desktop of the VM

Bob

you're going to run out of space pretty fast :P

r.tanner.f

@nhinkle ohhhhh yes yes yes.

Bob

@nhinkle why not just make the desktop the FTP root?

nhinkle

@Bob that works too

Tom Wijsman

@nhinkle And automatically executed?! Let's do this.

jokerdino

05:10

I am in.

r.tanner.f

lmao I'll set it up tomorrow xD

nhinkle

@TomWijsman IDK about automatically execute. Remember, we want the "helpers" who are downloading the files to open it, we don't want to open it!

Bob

make sure your VM is very secure, and firewalled (DMZ?) from your internal network

nhinkle

bonus points if you manage to infect them

r.tanner.f

@nhinkle That would be the gold. They're definitely not tech savvy (I tested the waters) so they might be dumb enough to open something bad.

Bob

05:12

better if you can get multiple 'tech support' people on at the same time

Tom Wijsman

@nhinkle Give back the same popup they sent. :D

Bob

controlling the same machine

nhinkle

if you get their CC, buy us all surfaces before they catch on

(JUST KIDDING. I DO NOT ENDORSE ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR, EVEN IF IT WOULD BE HILARIOUS)

Journeyman Geek

lol

ya, At the very least get a nexus 10

;p

nhinkle

@TomWijsman or maybe just some sort of remote execution program? Open up a quiet VNC server that doesn't show any GUI

Tom Wijsman

05:13

@nhinkle Suddenly, a truck full of Surfaces arrives at StackExchange HQ... :D

nhinkle

@TomWijsman with instructions to send them in each of our t-shirt packages? cool!

Tom Wijsman

@nhinkle Oh yeah, live stream would be fun to follow.

nhinkle

@TomWijsman you could put it on ustream. heck, we could make a reality TV show for geeks

jokerdino

Most probably, you guys would be dealing with the Indian scammers.

nhinkle

what would be more interesting is if you could get a dump of all the other people's stuff they've stolen

jokerdino

05:14

Ah ah~

nhinkle

and real-life karma (or possibly getting arrested, depending on how it plays out) if you report that to the authorities and help those people recover

although that's entering dangerous batman territory. not recommended.

Daniel Beck

@KronoS Now

Tom Wijsman

@nhinkle: Anonymous mail...

Bob

Anonymous mail

r.tanner.f

Dude if I could do that I would just take the credit and the fall.

I don't think anybody is really going to pursue that criminal case anyway.

Tom Wijsman

05:16

What about creating a group policy startup script that sets their Windows unlicensed at login? :D

r.tanner.f

haha

nhinkle

lol nope

Bob

@TomWijsman You'd probably have to install/enable the licensing components first :P

nhinkle

@Bob @tom you could do that with just the slmgr.vbs, I'm sure

Bob

@nhinkle implying they had a genuine copy of Windows in the first place

nhinkle

05:18

@Bob LOL

I get it now

Tom Wijsman

@Bob Dunno, I'd think they are just perma-on and that algorithms still check them; it's actually interesting whether attempting to unlicense them would work or not.

nhinkle

@r.tanner.f we're highly anticipating this, as you can see

r.tanner.f

xD Yes, I'm definitely going to have to follow through on setting this trap up.

nhinkle

i want in on the streaming!

i believe there's a windows VNC client that you can install silently

and also silently configure

all you have to do is get them to run one creditcards.docx.exe and you're good to go!

bonus points if the .exe unpacks an actual .docx with fake credit cards, and opens it in word, before silently wreaking havoc in the background

r.tanner.f

Well, I'll set up FTP on a VM tomorrow + a stream and ping all of you. =D Would be super cool to get VNC going on them.

nhinkle

05:22

i'll see what i can hack together

i had a... project once. that i might have some files left from.

r.tanner.f

Haha, sweet. I'm excited. xD

Oh sweet righteous justice.

off to bed for now...

Sathya

@r.tanner.f lmao

jokerdino

It better work :)

Sathya

@HackToHell I did, but I chose to forfeit. (it was the 10 edits tile, btw)

Bob

@nhinkle Fake credit cards? Why go to that trouble? i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/096/044/trollface.jpg

nhinkle

05:31

@Bob yes, i plan to upload my own credit card instead :P

KronoS

T minus 2.5 hours

Bob

@nhinkle Just attach a couple of images :P

Process them in photoshop first, with a little luck can end up with 500 MB images.

nhinkle

@Bob the idea is to distract them, so they're busy trying those credit card numbers (fake) while we're busily installing VNC in the background

Bob

Ah.

Well, I missed the point completely.

Tom Wijsman

05:44

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Q: How to scroll in grub2 shell?

The outputs of the help and/or vbeinfo command of grub2 shell are massive. How to scroll up the output? I've tried PageUp、Shift+PageUp, but nothing happened.

keyboard-shortcuts hotkeys grub2

What are the white dots here?

jokerdino

The grub2 background from fedora.

It's the stars :)

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