Root Access

corwin01

00:14

@r.tanner.f bah, still no update

Tom Wijsman

Oh man... Reddit commenters can be so ignorant sometimes.

corwin01

Yes, yes they can

Tom Wijsman

reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/130a9q/… should be a fun read.

corwin01

though really, its more like In sufficient number, Internet commenters can be so ignorant sometimes.

Bob

Sigh. VB6.

IIRC that won't even install on x64 Win7 or something

corwin01

00:21

It will

Tom Wijsman

Dec 29 '11 at 5:25, by Tom Wijsman

corwin01

whether it runs correctly, I dont knoiw

Bob

@TomWijsman Well, that's interesting.

Tom Wijsman

It installs and runs on Windows 8 x64.

Bob

Probably forgot to run as admin or something when installing :\

I've only tried once.

corwin01

00:22

ive installed it. thankfully never had to use it

Bob

Ok, I'll try again now. Where did I put that CD...

Tom Wijsman

@Bob: Feel free to capture with Process Monitor. :)

Albeit I don't care, I saw it happen with Process Monitor some time ago so there is an occasion where it does that.

Dec 29 '11 at 5:29, by Tom Wijsman

Funny how the Visual Basic 6 installer is installed to look through your entire disk contents for setup components... Those were the bad days. :D

s/installed to look/looking/ What a typo... o_O

jokerdino

Hey, I got on the steam beta :D

corwin01

nice

Tom Wijsman

@corwin01 Just don't see the point on disproving someone's very believable point and failing at doing so and keep on trying after that.

At which point I just lead em to some way to disproof themselves, go in a circle, or point out straw arguments; whatever fits better. :D

Bob

00:30

@TomWijsman Well, it is querying my whole Program Files directory

and now the x86 one

Tom Wijsman

There you go... ;)

Bob

...if it starts on my D: partition, I'm just gonna give up

not waiting for it to try to read 1.5TB worth of data

I do kinda want to know WTH it's doing

Tom Wijsman

@Bob: Searching and searching and searching, then finally it proceeds, and it just works.

Bob

...and there it goes.

Tom Wijsman

@Bob: Feel free to leave a note on that Reddit if you have a profile, then it's clear you're not just a new account; or don't mind at all.

reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/130a9q/… :D

Bob

00:35

Sure :P

Tom Wijsman

If you do, let me know, I can upvote you thrice... :P

I'd feel like putting a PML there with an exported untampered log, but would require me to put up a VM and do it from there so it doesn't involve personal data; not worth it.

The alternative is voting guys like these under the comment threshold! Done faster, no need for a length thread.

Bob

O.O

looks like the search was actually useful

wtf...

Tom Wijsman

For what?

Bob

I forgot that folder was even there

at some point, when migrating computers, I essentially copied the entire drive's contents

corwin01

lol

Tom Wijsman

00:42

Epic, please include that screenshot there! :D

Mystery solved... o_O

So, it's looking for previous installations.

Bob

just for SourceSafe...

nothing else came up :S

jokerdino

So, I got the steam beta access but my network blocks all the required ports.

FML

Tom Wijsman

@Bob: By the way, on Reddit you can upvote yourself. Dunno why they do that.

Bob

I think it defaults to one self upvote when you post

jokerdino

isn't that auto upvote on your posts?

you can choose to remove the vote and downvote yourself.

Tom Wijsman

00:48

@Bob: Where did the Process Monitor picture go? :(

Bob

@TomWijsman I didn't think it was much proof of anything.. I'll put it back up :P

Tom Wijsman

Anyhow, enough of that for today. :D

@Bob: I can post it to him under my name, or edit it in somewhere.

Bob

Ok, put it back.

annnd VS itself doesn't start.

oh well.

knowing this computer, probably a DLL conflict or something somewhere

Tom Wijsman

Yeah, on a fairly empty Windows 8 it went well.

On a system that's been used for quite some time, I guess not.

@Bob: There you go, you no longer have downvoted comments. ^^

corwin01

lol

Its quitting time. Have a good night

Tom Wijsman

00:56

Getting late here too, have to wake up in 6 hours.

Bob

@TomWijsman lol thanks?

I didn't even know I had any

Reddit with its 'vote fuzzing' and all

Tom Wijsman

The other guy that went offensive a month ago or so got his comments removed, were comments against Stack Exchange. :D

Bob

hm.. I just lose 30 rep on SU (user removed)

I wonder who/why

Tom Wijsman

(reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/132gep/…)

Pretty nice idea to do something like that.

Your days are limited.

Bob

D:

nhinkle

01:13

@Bob we just did a bit of... cleaning, shall we say

Bob

@nhinkle Ah... so there were people using... alternative methods in the contest.

nhinkle

@Bob something like that. You can thank (deleted user) for the delay in announcing contest results :P

Matthew

01:30

That darn (deleted user), a constant thorn in my side.

Paul

The other day I saw (deleted user) in the pub. He had a boil on his nose and the ugliest hat on

corwin01

02:18

lol

@nhinkle So we have all sqeaky clean data now?

nhinkle

@corwin01 not quite. Still some to go through. Don't worry, you guys will get results soon!

ish.

corwin01

02:38

sweet

HackToHell

03:32

:/

eurogamer.net/articles/…

Sathya

morning

looks like the first wave of suspensions have been handed out

Journeyman Geek

03:54

oh?

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek getting things shipshape for the contest

Journeyman Geek

ahh

actually, I'd have been suprised if there was no cheating ;p

corwin01

doesn't look like the #s changed on the contest page though

so not sure about #s now

Journeyman Geek

I've not lost any rep ;p

Bob

@corwin01 Ahem, mods please don't read my next message :P

If you click through all the user profiles, at least for level 4, you can see which ones are suspended

Currently 22 left

corwin01

04:04

lol

=D

Journeyman Geek

...

the usernames

GOD CAN YOU PEOPLE BE AS CREATIVE ABOUT USERNAMES ARE YOU ARE ABOUT CHEATING? ;p

corwin01

lol

seriously

whats next, admin?

HackToHell

User

1 2 16

voting irregularities ??

Bob

xD

@HackToHell see the last 30 or so messages in this room

HackToHell

> -194 3 hours ago reversal Serial upvoting reversed

Bob

04:08

...that's a lot of votes

HackToHell

So he cannot get prizes ?

Bob

evidently :P

Journeyman Geek

only a crushing sense of dissapointment and our eternal scorn.

Bob

I guess there's a small chance of the mods getting this wrong (please don't ban me :P)

HackToHell

lol

So every user is manually verified ?

Bob

04:11

probably, for those in level 3/4 at least

but then, manually counting/checking/looking for patterns in voting would get tedious fast.. might be some automatic system for at least flagging suspicious users

And this will never get confirmed :P

corwin01

lol

Well, considering the relatively small number of total winners, the whole thing could be manual

Journeyman Geek

I'd guess SE corporate has a system for this

corwin01

but I'd wager lvl 3/4

Bob

@corwin01 consider, that's at least 3 * 13 + 5 * 4 + 1 * 15 votes per L4 user

possibly many more

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: or select all the votes per user, and extract upvotes more than a threshold

then manually verify it

Bob

04:15

and then there's the 240 who made it to L1.. even the whole SE team probably couldn't get this done in a day (remember, mods don't have access to votes)

corwin01

true, but once you do lvl 4, you eliminate much of the grunt work from lvl 3

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I guess maybe check if there's one user consistently upvoting another

corwin01

I doubt the lvl 1 were verified by anything but an automated check

Journeyman Geek

l1 is sorta inconcequencially simple

corwin01

yea

Journeyman Geek

04:16

its not worth cheating for

corwin01

exactly

but, if you eliminate cheaters higher up, well thats 1 less tshirt to give out lol

Journeyman Geek

lol yup

corwin01

2 users out (ha!) and odds only increase by 1%

I don't think I've been this involved and anxious about a contest... ever.

Bob

@corwin01 all the work you put in :P

HackToHell

They still have not said anything about the T-shirt design

corwin01

04:24

@Bob haha

The SU logo inside of a tile seems apt

Bob

do they need to say more? :P

HackToHell

That's crude photoshopery !

Does anyone want a VPS with SSD ? lowendbox.com/blog/…

nhinkle

@corwin01 i doubt your doubt.

even though level 1 is hardly worth cheating for, it gives us a good opportunity to audit users who we wouldn't normally bother to look at

@Bob we've only just started :P

Journeyman Geek

aww ;p

@nhinkle: I'd note a lot of chewed up fingernails should be blamed on you lot then ;p

(not mine. I STILL haven't managed to quit the habit)

nhinkle

blame it on the people who cheated, not the people who check it :P

Journeyman Geek

04:33

but but... I was planning on merely scorning, and pointing and laughing at them!

corwin01

@nhinkle heh thats some work there

Journeyman Geek

ya, it is

corwin01

So what does it look like now, Wednesday?

Journeyman Geek

lol

Whenitsdonesday! ;p

Bob

@corwin01 could we speak in 'number of days left', not 'day of the week'? :P

I'm pretty sure it's still Monday in the US, but it's Tuesday here

Journeyman Geek

04:37

lol

Bob

@HackToHell ooh nice

Paul

@Bob Yeah and its next Friday where I am so it is confusing to say it will be finished last week

Bob

@Paul huhwhat

you should be in around the same timezone as me? :\

Journeyman Geek

HE IS FROM THE FUTURE!

Paul

@JourneymanGeek I will be from the future

Bob

04:43

@JourneymanGeek in that case, WHO WON PRIZES?

Paul

@Bob They are on the third recount

Journeyman Geek

looks like they're up to level 2

though we have an actually unknown unknown user there

Bob

@JourneymanGeek doubly unknown? :O

corwin01

@Bob True, I forget =D

Journeyman Geek

ya

in level 2's visible users, there's a grey avatar of the top half of a person

click on it ;p

Bob

04:49

fun fun 404

every time: "that's not how you open a computer!"

corwin01

saw that

deleted maybe?

Journeyman Geek

donno ;p

thats not something I have ever come across before

HackToHell

metro-webdesign.info

ronalchn

I want to know - has anybody tried registering multiple users?

Journeyman Geek

lol

cough

depends on why I'd guess

ronalchn

04:54

they might want more chances in the contest

Journeyman Geek

I know its 'acceptable' to create a new account if you want to ask a question that you don't want linked to the original contest

oh, for cheating

no idea

1177

Q: Our security auditor is an idiot. How do I give him the information he wants?

A security auditor for our servers has demanded the following within two weeks: A list of current usernames and plain-text passwords for all user accounts on all servers A list of all password changes for the past six months, again in plain-text A list of "every file added to the server from re...

security pci-dss

this question was originally asked by someone under a different username

nhinkle

@ronalchn people have, we've been catching them, and are in the process of suspending individuals who've broken the rules.

Journeyman Geek

ugh

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