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16:02
@JourneymanGeek The 'Is My Computer DEAD' one?
i recognise that avatar for some reason
no, the slow network node one
@JourneymanGeek Ah, thought it was quite well posted and informative
but then again i'm used to the usual cruft we get here ;)
cruft = your new favourite word? :P
@HaydnWVN I don't know, but if networking questions like that are frequently a topic on SF, I should have most of my rep on SF, not on SU
@allquixotic Agreed, loved your answer... But then again any tech in a data center should do the things you posted without really thinking/needing guidance
my answer is kind of a long, sprawling brain dump on 80% of what I know about network performance engineering
@HaydnWVN the way people can BS through interviews and resumes means that a lot of people are employed way above their head and don't know half of what they need in order to do their job effectively :/
also I just updated my answer about 38 seconds ago with even more info
16:08
The fundamentals are the same regardless of size... Isolate the problematic network node by working around it, then test other transfers/access across it
Another stupid/simple question answered.
I wonder if that will be a good source of rep again (since it was a very simple question)
@HaydnWVN I also revised it to include some mitigations that go above and beyond routing around the slow node
@Hennes Probably not then ;)
Mwa.
@allquixotic heading back there now
16:09
Answrs to complex questions yield less than very easy simple answers.
@allquixotic bet he responds with TL;DR;
as I understand it, Skype's reliability (which is amazing, imho) is due largely to the fact that they employ a low chattiness protocol, AND they use a huge CDN so that they practically have a server sitting in your backyard, with lowish latency and packet loss
@HaydnWVN if he's a datacenter engineer, sysadmin or network engineer who doesn't know everything I said in my answer off the top of his head, and can't even be bothered to read it, he should be fired on the spot
@allquixotic Agreed, he should be replaced by someone like you ;)
But then again we'd miss you here as you're such a mine of information on any topic
yeah, if I were busy 24/7 on my job I wouldn't be nearly as active on SU :P
fortunately the app I'm testing is completely down at the moment, and I'm just a tester, so I get to wait for the devs to fix it
so I get paid to answer SU
16:15
it's remarkable: you can look at my activity levels on SU and see when the applications I test are down, or when I was off for holiday/vacation/disaster, or when I'm eating lunch, or slacking off, by the number of questions I answer
I typically answer stuff on Super User when I'm on the phone with Stupid Users. =D
@allquixotic Nice, i've just had such a shit hectic couple of days I'm just catching up with what needs to be done before monday rather than any actual proper work lol
and when my activity is very poor, then you know, I am working hard
my boss should bookmark my SU profile
My managers away... Last week when he was here nothing went wrong... Nothing has for months.
this week i've had the mailserver die, our router reset itself, several server related slowdowns and to cap it all a fibre-optic failure on our main site today
I have multiple levels of boss, some of which aren't even technically my boss in the sense that they don't decide whether I can remain employed or not, they just hand me assignments and evaluate my performance
it goes: senior members of my testing team; the Sub-Team Lead; the Team Lead; then my work order manager; then my real boss (he can say "you're fired" unilaterally), then my boss's boss, then my boss's boss's boss
all of those people are aware of me individually and monitor my progress rather closely, but at decreasing levels of detail the higher up you go
16:19
then there's the ash fungus dieback disease (I work on a UK plant nursery) so i've had to 'free up' 100's of lines from orders as we're not allowed to sell any...
@HaydnWVN yeah, I know you work at a UK plant nursery, we've been acquainted ;P
@allquixotic Lol sorry, it's been one of those weeks ;)
sounds like a hectic week
roll on monday, my mangers back so nothing will go wrong
I've spent the week just re-gaining access to systems I need because I let my stupid password expire and had to go through all this bureaucracy to get it reinstated
16:20
he'll be like "is that all you've done?"
and the system I'm testing has had plenty of problems of its own, unrelated to my account, which impede testing
@HaydnWVN I get that all the time when external environmental factors impede my progress, and I'm like, come on give me a break guys, not all of this is my fault
@allquixotic Haha exactly that... 'External environmental factors' does include users right? ;)
not in my case, but in yours, sure
I don't have any users
I work with things, not with people, although my primary interaction with people is obtaining information from them, so I feel like a leech
"to test this I'll need this, and this, and this, and this..."
Hahaha, you have 'dependancies' totally out of your control?
i had to restart a switch earlier and went through the offices (3 offices here, 1 couldn't connect) telling everyone to get off the servers plugged into the switch
well, I depend on other people to maintain the infrastructure, maintain the validation environment, maintain my user account, and provide me test data
so rather than being the sysadmin with the keys to the castle, I'm on the opposite end
16:25
then called around the 3-4 remote sites connected to it (router also plugged into switch)
but we have such a large organization, and our processes are so compartmentalized, that everything I touch is completely separate from our production systems
we have physically separate validation systems and tons of people to support that
by the time i was ready to restart the switch, users from the offices had logged back in assuming i'd finished... So by the time i'd got them all off the server again one of the remotes had reconnected...
I don't even have an account that would give me access to production systems or data
ouch, sounds like pain
ahhh, very seperate systems
@allquixotic painful, but at least i don't have to deal with the public like my previous job lol ;)
people are really cubby holed into the knowledge they have about their immediate job, here... so you get used to calling numbers and sending emails to people you've never met before requesting information or requesting they do something for you
I try to branch out as much as I can and understand stuff that isn't directly my responsibility so that at least I can speak at a level of discourse that makes me sound informed when dealing with data or systems outside of my little alley
but in general people have their one area and trying to speak to people from another department is like trying to speak English to someone who only knows Chinese
I've been to cross functional meetings and they're pretty hilarious
16:29
@allquixotic Haha know that feeling
a manager or some guru is the only guy in the room who can translate the things being said, from one person to the other
department specialist 1 says "Bluh bluh bluh bluh", guru translates to department specialist 2 by saying "grah grah grah grah", then specialist 2 says "ohhhhhhh" and says "grah gruh blih bleh?" and guru translates back to specialist 1......
trying to sound intelligent so people provide you with the info you need, without actually having a clue about their situation and role as such
@HaydnWVN yeah, basically knowing just enough to scratch the surface, and apply an "algebra of terms" (often of acronyms you don't even know the expansion of) in order to get them to say something that provides novel information to you
which you then proceed to store in long term memory so that you can use that as further ammunition to peel back the onion and get even more info later
also very useful to store all emails back to the beginning of time in case you ever need somebody's help again, because there's no way you'll remember all their names
16:32
We have different departments here... Propagation (were they talk in cells, division and cuttings), Irrigation (where it's all fill rates, pump times and coverage), Technical (spraying, pest and disease, infection rates), Potting (pot sizes, compost types, fertilisers) etc etc etc
@allquixotic Or their fields lol
have 6 different guys called 'Steve' here lol
we have the "front-end" people who know Java (J2EE) and XML and RMI and JSON...
and depending on the department you're talking to will depend which Steve they mean
then we have the "back-end" people who know mainframe stuff
the number of people who can bridge that terminological divide can be counted on one hand; most of them have 30+ years of experience
I guess the org is looking for people to eventually be able to have the same level of guru knowledge to step up and take their place in case they decide they want to retire
so, being young, I'm more than glad to become the next protege for such an esteemed position ;)
just waiting for the right opportunity
@allquixotic Probably why there's so much interest in what you're doing... You're one of those protege's they have in mind ;)
haha yeah!!
isn't this about when you say "home time \o/" ? and I say "lunch time \o/" ? or are you staying late today
16:36
@allquixotic It's similar here... When I started (over a year ago) the last person to join the organisation was a Director... 8 years previously
I'm working around people who've been in their positions for years, many of them for 30 or 40 years!
It's 16:37, i'm still here until 17:05 ;)
yeah... I was talking to a guy the other day who said he's been eligible for full retirement for over 10 years but they gave him some kind of benefits incentive to stay on for additional years because replacing him would be next to impossible and the org might permanently lose some skills that only he has
and i think he modified his employment contract (at their request) to give the org 3 months notice if he wants to retire, so they have extra-extra time to find a replacement and have this old guy train him on everything
@allquixotic Like maintaining their COBOL-to-VBA converter? :D
probably something about that bad, yes. :P
@allquixotic Great position to be in!
16:40
for the record, I don't think we use COBOL
just thought I'd get that extremely ugly stigma off my plate
we do use extensive amounts of VBA and VBScript, though
oh, and we use something worse than COBOL
we use JCL :D :D :D :D
I guess that's as bad as me saying i'm reinstalling and reusing windows2000's PC's on dialup's for some users :P
that's bad, but doesn't hold a candle to using a language invented when punch cards were the only way
of course we don't use punch cards; the hardware the systems run on is not terribly dissimilar to what you young whippersnappers use to run all those fancy SQL databases and ASP.NET application servers. but the operating system it runs is quite old and crusty
Older the better, our main software we use hasn't changed much over 10 years... Well the behind the scenes SQL anyways
majority of the screens are older 'DOS' based made to look the same as the terminal machines they replaced back in win9x
yeah, there's also a general cultural perception among our engineers and systems architects that having backends which are rooted in very old technology (at least on the software side) is good for reliability
in production that seems to be more or less true, so hat's off to them
some of them we have newer windows GUI versions of
16:46
in development / validation it's not true at all, but that's because the application is in a constant state of flux
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Q: Install Windows 8 on VMware Fusion

mgaughanAm currently running Windows 8 in Fusion off Mountain Lion, but Unity is disabled. I cannot find a way to just download an ico and start a fresh vm. Do I have to order the disk? Thanks

windows 8 has unity?
wutttttttttt
^
I'm so confused.
Is that a VMware Fusion feature or something?
he's talking about Unity mode which makes the windows of the guest appear as native windows on the host
that's not Ubuntu/Canonical unity lol
xD
Hey, I could see the UI confusion...
16:49
there's also a 3D gaming engine called Unity
Wretched UI decisions all around! Let's just call it all Unity :P
@r.tanner.f So are you running Microsoft Unity right now?
with the Unity display manager?
with the Mozilla Unity web browser?
what is this sorcery?
@allquixotic I think they call it MUI, but it feels just as crummy...
BRB, I'm going to play Unity (based on the Unity engine) on Microsoft Unity with my Logitech Unity mouse and my ViewSonic Unity LCD
16:51
@allquixotic My usual desktop work envionment - 3x old DOS style screens as they're faster than the windows GUI versions lol - dl.dropbox.com/u/66653574/desktop.jpg
@HaydnWVN no dropbox for me
@allquixotic Thats a public link, it should just open
@HaydnWVN mainframe?
@r.tanner.f Not exactly, it was previously, now its just SQL databases on 2 servers with locally stored 'query' programs
the (very) basic system we have is on par with a full ERP program (like SAP/Oracle etc) but it was made long before ERP programs...
16:56
So i'm doing some Windows 8 update work at the place I work and I can say that Windows 8 seems to be much much worse then then when we went to XP->Windows 7 . Almost everybody is confused and hates it. Have you guys heard much about Windows 8 in the workplace?
@HaydnWVN ooh, in-house custom ERP systems based on pathetically old software is one of my favorite things in the whole world :D well, defining "favorite" as "pay me twice as much as anyone else in my field and I'll maybe consider working there for one or two years before I collapse on the floor in a ball, cry myself to sleep and sign my resignation in blood"
@Misha Windows 8 had a lot of compatibility issues where i worked.
@Misha Come back in 2018 and I'll let you know
Seriously, change on the desktop happens in Asari years here
this is really a stupid question
but
How can I say
Secondary Vocational School
16:59
@allquixotic I'm working at this startup and we need to make sure that our devices work on Windows 8. So we decided to dog food, which tastes like dog food...
@EinsteinsGrandson Can you try typing out your entire thought on a single chat line instead of hitting enter after every noun or sentence fragment?
@allquixotic Lol tell me about it... Although this system (being totally bespoke) is quite amazing and stable... But some of the ways things work drives me mad
@EinsteinsGrandson In relation to what and which country?
@HaydnWVN Aww man, I was so going for an interesting star on that definition of favorite
Secondary Vocational School of physical education and sport.... is it right?
Georgia
@EinsteinsGrandson In the UK they're just called 'Secondary School'
17:01
Secondary Vocation school might the same as community college in the us?
I know but I wanna to mention that it was nothing like grammar school.... but high school specializes in this field
in the US it's called "vocational school" or "tech school" for short, if it's a secondary school designed to teach a career skill, like being an electrician, or plumber, or car mechanic.
but I don't know about how they'd call it for a school dedicated to sports
@allquixotic Happy? ;)
@HaydnWVN Elated
actually , the specialization was : therapeutic massages
;o))))))))))))))))))))))
17:03
o_O
@EinsteinsGrandson Wait, you trained to be a prostitute?
So I wanna put in CV something like : Seconadary Vocation School of physical education and sport , specialization: therapeutic massage
@HaydnWVN Now, now. Be kind to professional massage therapists. They are a legitimate business which has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality. But I get the joke.
That said, I would be totally embarrassed to have one of those at my place of employment, as it does seem just a little bit taboo. Valve Software HAS ONE in the office. O_o
no, trained to massage people who got injured... after car accidents etc...
@allquixotic , i know
@EinsteinsGrandson That actually sounds pretty good, except for some capitalization and an extra space before the comma :P
17:05
but you can't change the past... ;o)
So it should be Seconadary vocation school of physical education and sport , specialization: therapeutic massage ?
"Secondary Vocation School of Physical Education and Sports" would be a (long-winded, but accurate) title that you would put after the actual name of the school
you can put "; Specialized in therapeutic massage" after that
Yeah sounds better
and specialization: therapeutic massage is OK?
17:06
You should just say what you were trained as and then list the school. For example: Massage Thearapy (School of the Americas) 2013. There is no need to qualify.
@allquixotic I bet they have 1 per department at Google HQ
@HaydnWVN Kidding? They probably have a dedicated physical trainer and masseuse per employee.
So> Seconadary vocation school of physical education and sport , specialized in therapeutic massage.... ?
Right?
@allquixotic ROFL, they're probably all trained in it
17:08
If you don't have a massues all your software quickly becomes hardware. This is currently happening at MS.
@EinsteinsGrandson Sounds good
@EinsteinsGrandson Fix the spelling of "Secondary", and remove the space before the comma.
Yes, I know
OK, thank you guys
I am helping a friend.... who has no clue how to write a CV
;o)
proably he has never ever written a proper CV
So, I worked at the teh google for a summer and they did indeed have a massues, but it was hard to find them and I knew of nobody in our division using them.
@EinsteinsGrandson Good; I can't express how relieved I am that we don't have a professional masseuse in Root Access.
I find those people to be extremely frightening, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, age, body type, skin color, or any other discriminating factor. I have a sensitivity to physical contact that exceeds even Denobulans.
17:11
@allquixotic I have a sensitivity to physical contact called a girlfriend who'd have serious words with my boss if i'd had a massage at work lol
And on that note... Hometime! :D
Srs? A geek with a girlfriend? This is an impossible universe state. Create singularity; start over.
@allquixotic Lol afraid so... And she's not even a geekgirl :o
Ridiculous. Heresy! Apocryphal! When a singularity originating from London swallows the entire world, it's your fault.
Why, I can already feel the spaghettification of my small intestine.
@allquixotic I think that could be your lunch
calling/exiting
It's just physics, man! :P
17:18
@allquixotic Lol, good to chat anyways, have a good weekend
That's okay. I have the next best situation, a (long) step down from that singularity-inducing state of having a SO (not a StackOverflow): the rare CWG resides in close proximity.
new CWG { taken=true, wearsRedDresses=true, blonde=true, young=true, friends=true };
/me likes this
CWG = cute work girl :P
cya all o/
17:20
ahhhh, ok certainly better than a PFY
can I have 1 more question
I put it in questions but nobody answered
and I need the answer today
@EinsteinsGrandson You asked it as a question on SU? Provide the link.
@Misha what exactly are you running in to with Windows 8? Is it just that people hate change?
I can't hardly get my users off XP -_-
17:36
anyone with mdadm experience?
I see no reason why RAID5 on 2 drives would not work. (and before someone mentions it: yes, it would not be a sane setup).
But I got the impression that someone managed to create a 3 disk RAID5. One SPARE, 2 drives.
@Hennes I don't know about 2 drives (sounds insane to me), but 3 disk RAID5 is perfectly normal
3 disk RAID 5 is normal.
also, for raid5, it's not really a "spare". The drive that isn't directly storing data is called the parity bit drive
But it boots in degraded mode, with 2 drives.
and mdadm contains spares is 1
.......
17:43
Not my PC btw. Also I never ised mdadm
I just answer questions about it because I can do logic and I can read manual pages
So you're saying they had RAID5, one of the drives (not the parity drive) died, and now it's running off of one of the data drives and one of the parity drives?
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Q: Post raid5 setup reboot shows single hard drive failure on ubuntu 12.10?

junkieI just set up raid 5 on linux using three HDDs as per a guide. It all went fine until when I rebooted I got the following text: https://i.sstatic.net/Zsfjk.jpg. Does this mean one of my HDDs has failed? How do I check if any of them are failing? I tried using smartctl and didn't see any issue...

Or did the parity drive die and now it's basically a RAID-0 with the stripes between the data drives?
No. 3 drives configures as a single RAID5 volume. Format. Reboot. comes up as degraded with two drives. I asked for the config files. Those got posted and show spares is 1
I suspect pebcak
I don't know. :( "Spares" could just be mdadm's wonky terminology for referring to the parity drive, or it could be an actual spare (which would make it RAID-6?).
Also... if a clean format is immediately producing a degraded array, it's probably hardware failure (lots of bad sectors on one of the disks).
17:47
;o)
I have a virtual Windows XP with preinstalled Cognos TM1. IBM says that I need to have at least 2 GB of RAM for Cognos TM1.

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27021976

The thing is that I have a PC with Windows XP with only 1.9 GB of RAM. How much of RAM does XP need? 400 MB? So, if I give my virtual Windwos XP in vmWare Player only 1.5 GB of RAM... will it be enough for Cognos TM1? Another thing is that the virtual system will also need some memory... so maybe I will be left with 1.2 or 1.3 GB for TM1... Will it work or there is no chance for me? ;o)
@EinsteinsGrandson The way virtual machines work (traditionally, at least) is that they need physical RAM to be available, not just swap file.. I don't think this is possible without either somehow fooling Cognos (which could very well cause it to run out of memory), or buying more RAM.
most VM solutions will refuse to start if you allocate too much memory, so since you don't even have enough physical memory to equal 2 GB in the first place, you can't leave your host with "0 MB".
even a bare metal hypervisor couldn't do that because it still needs memory for the host, just less
But RAID 5 does not use a parity drive.
It stores stripes all data across drives. Parity is generated but not not written to s single drive
SF has a nice graphic for that, which I usually include to clarify
Now I am in school and the virtual OS has 1.6 GB
so, the thing is if I can be OK with 300 MB for the host - Windows XP
I have 2 GB of RAM, but need 64 MB or 128 MB for a graphic card
So, I can use 1936 or 1872 MB .... I will check it at home
either way, 300 MB for the host OS
Ehm. graphic which snoop of the main memory?
OK... I just got the answer from IT expert... that I can give the guest OS ... the whole RAM that I have
that Windows will use SWAP...
@Hennes Even dedicated GPUs can use system memory. For example, the GTT/GART. This is one of the reasons why programs which use the AMD or Nvidia graphics drivers (Direct3D or OpenGL) can't use anywhere near the full virtual address space.
so that would solve my problem
17:59
Ah
If you were to see a memory segmentation layout (split out by object module) of the VAS of a program after initializing a 3d graphics driver, you'd see that several hundred megs of VAS are reserved for graphics operations. Nvidia's driver is worse.
I never delved deeping into GPU
I mostly played old games, using passive cooled cards. Usually matrox G200 cards
@EinsteinsGrandson Not sure this will work. Windows needs at least some physical RAM.
The only modern card is in my desktop ( AMD 5870)
18:00
I don't know. It depends on your drivers, what you're running on the host, etc.
What do you mean?
I mean that the amount of physical memory the host OS needs depends on your system, which drivers you use, which programs you have installed, and so on.
@Hennes TIL. I thought RAID-5 dedicated one drive to XOR'ed parity and otherwise acted like RAID0 for the remaining drives. o.o
<---- not omniscient
PROOF
The app is still down! More SU for me! =D
Yes, it's true that I have 300+ programs installed
So, it's gonna be hard
we will see
@EinsteinsGrandson Three hundred programs? Yeah, this is not going to work, unless you have absolutely none of those programs (or any of their services) resident in memory.
BUY MORE RAM!
(*or use Linux and compressed RAM*)
I can't buy more RAM
;o)
for the PC I have.... the maximum is 2 GB
so, i would need a new PC
;o)
18:15
Why 2GB max., Chipset limitation? Atom CPU?
Everyone at work loves my new tablet :)
Our CEO is actually in the market for a Windows tablet. He liked it a lot.
@sidran32 WinRT or Win8 or Win8 Pro?
@allquixotic Win8. It's actually an ultrabook/tablet convertible thingy. Sony VAIO Duo 11.
I'm quite happy with it.
also, you need to call my credit union and order them to put a hold on my account, because I stared at the Surface for about 2 hours last night and almost could stomach liking it... it was almost as uncomfortable as it'd be to come out of the closet, considering my background in FOSS, to feel my emotions undercutting what my mind tells me to do
I almost actually ordered it O_O
Haha.
Well, it's not a bad device at all :)
So I hear, anyway :P
18:22
thing is, with my ThinkPad T530, taking it out and doing work feels like a real time commitment, like, I'm going to spend 3-4 hours doing this thing alone, and I need lots of space, and silence, and a power plug
I am actually dreadfully attracted to the concept of a device with a full keyboard like that which has a much simpler engagement/deployment strategy
i.e. whip it out, hook up the keyboard and go
I'm of the same mind as Jeff Atwood on this
he blogged about a similar thing recently
probably what I will hold out for is to hear proof that Surface Pro (or a very similar device) works reliably with Linux, so I can install it on there
or better yet, to wait for a company to push out Linux from the factory on a device like that. Google, probably
Chromebook looks too cheap and it has too short battery life... I actually want something expensive at a similar form factor... good build quality, great battery life
and for Hades' sake, why doesn't Motorola license their secret sauce for the super-dense batteries that they've put in their "Maxx" branded smartphones?! Imagine that on laptops, omg
18:38
it always boggles the mind how every upcoming Motorola smartphone OTA update is magically "leaked' a few weeks before it goes final
I think Motorola unofficially releases it to let hackers/rooters try it out and report any bugs before the soak test even so they have time to do another build
Question: What do you guys think about Total Commander's licensing?
I know there are free updates for now from the very first version to the latest, but there is a paragraph, saying "until further notice". So basically there is not even a promise that I will get ANY next versions. :/

Should I buy a license?
Sorry, our CEO came over and wanted a hands-on demo of my tablet :P
He said he's gonna buy it
@sidran32 nice... it's cool to be the hip kid, eh?
@allquixotic It's certainly not a bad thing :P
@Shiki Depends on how much you value the software versus the risk that they may decide to turn off the fountain of future updates
Also, even if they did require another purchase for future upgrades, I can practically guarantee you that they would heavily discount the price for the upgrade
even Adobe does that, and they're the greediest company in the entire world in terms of software licensing
besides maybe SAP
just do a little cost benefit analysis
18:44
Hmm.
not sure what killer features total commander has, but when I'm hating Windows Explorer I use KDE's Dolphin
I'll give it a thought. It's not like you have to buy it (if you know what I mean)... but still.
Total Commander is really a nice poweruser tool on Windows. Of course this means you have to learn it to be able to use it. It really can do a lot.
you could ask them if "until further notice" means they are planning to make you buy upgrades, but more than likely they'll play coy with you and pretend like "Us?!?! Never!" and then a year later do exactly that
proprietary software vendors are like politicians -- they'll say anything to get a sale, and do nothing to make you happy when you are dissatisfied
Crap.... without even trying I inadvertently answered enough questions to pass Level 1. Blasphemy! I intentionally didn't want to support this travesty until they have an "Ubuntu 13.04 Challenge" or a "Apple OS X Mountain Lion Challenge", but now I feel like a collaborator. :/
Can I set my shipping address to one of your addresses? Who wants a free SU teeshirt?
hah.
What would you like to win in the Ubuntu challenge?
A mouse? A keyboard?
^^
I do want a T-shirt. As I'll never even pass the first level. :)
@Shiki No... the top prize in the Ubuntu Challenge should be a year of free labor from Dave Airlie on any software project you ask.
18:50
:D
Your own personal DRM (Direct Rendering Manager, not the other kind) guru / maintainer, to work on the projects and hardware that you use.
"Hey Dave, can you fix this bug I'm having when running ${FOO_APP} on a ${FOO_CARD}?"
Dave: Sure, it's my job
Maybe next time I'll just get an NVidia card and I'll be able to run Linux properly.
Avoid doing that... unless you go with Optimus. Nvidia does not "run Linux properly"
Or did you miss Linus T.'s rude gesture during one his lectures...?
The nvidia proprietary drivers have pathetically high latency for 2D and composited desktops. It's an absolute eyesore to use the nvidia binaries when web browsing or writing documents.
Ah, I think that was stupid. Both people's reaction and his own statement.
In my opinion, the best possible graphics configuration on Linux right now is Optimus, with an Intel CPU graphics (Ivy Bridge) and an Nvidia GPU.
18:53
Using desktop GPUs (NVidia), I had an A+ experience with Linux desktop. Both 3D and 2D. Not even a single crash, and it installed like a charm. I loved that thing. :)
Why do I think Optimus is the best? Because, with Bumblebee, you can run your composited desktop and 2D applications on the low-latency, silken-smooth Intel graphics, and for OpenGL / CUDA games, you can fire up the Nvidia binary driver.
but now.. I have an ATI... laggy, slow, melting my laptop.
True. Most lappys come with Optimus anyway.
Trust me, it's the best. Bumblebee is even smart enough to automatically disable the Nvidia card (power it down) when you aren't using it.
(Trust me, it's the money that holds me back from getting my next lappy. :))
Want a low-power, open-source, low-latency and stable 2D and composited desktop experience? Covered -- use Intel IGP. Want OpenGL 4.2 with the latest games and CUDA and OpenCL? Covered -- wrap your command in optirun.
As long as it isn't setuid root.... >___>
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Two of Intel's 4000 series HD gpu have died at me. I really-really-REALLY hope the IGPU is something more robust. :/
Two? Huh? Died?
Died as in every time you run a 3D application they both display glitches and artifacts.
HD4000 graphics is built into the CPU on Ivy Bridge CPUs.... I can't imagine how that would die unless you buy laptops with inadequate cooling solutions that cause it to overheat
@Shiki o_O Sure, that happens sometimes still with the open source graphics drivers (on any hardware), but the basic composited desktop experience is perfect... For your intensive 3D applications you just wrap the command to launch it in optirun, and it runs on the Nvidia GPU with the proprietary driver. :P
It's just the very "advanced" 3D effects that trip up the open source driver, but since you run the intensive 3d apps on the Nvidia GPU with proprietary driver, you don't hit that path.
I see. :)
Intel is know for their glitchy drivers; for example random color inversion in Starcraft 1. How glitchy are we talking about...

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