Root Access

Bob

12:00

recharging is just applying a reverse charge, which isn't good for the batteries but the batteries can't really do anything to the phone

Oliver Salzburg

But I just put 2 rechargeable batteries in it, which I've just taken from my charger, and the phone thinks they're empty

Bob

o.O

Journeyman Geek

wait, your phones use AAs?

Bob

that is werid

sure there's no scale on the contacts?

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek AAAs

Bob

12:00

@JourneymanGeek all the new ones here do

Journeyman Geek

so wierd

Oliver Salzburg

Well, I'm gonna call that support now

Bob

technet is two keys per product

10 activations per key

for standard, anyway

Oliver Salzburg

Doesn't really matter what business you're in, the solutions are always the same

"Did you try turning it off an on again?"

Yes, yes I did

"Did you try turning it off for longer and then turn it on again?"

No, I did not

"Do that!"

Journeyman Geek

"try unplugging & plugging it back in then!"

HaydnWVN

12:12

"Take the batteries out and replace them with ones authorised for use in the product."

Oliver Salzburg

@HaydnWVN The worst part about that is, the phone started behaving weird a few weeks ago. It wouldn't charge properly. So my girlfriend replaced the batteries. Now all the pieces fall into place

I guess that phone hasn't seen rechargeable batteries since it came from the store

HaydnWVN

12:25

@OliverSalzburg Or the charging part of it has never worked/failed soon after purchase?

Oliver Salzburg

@HaydnWVN Trust me ;D

HaydnWVN

Might be best not to mention the wrong batteries being changed, say it was used with the batteries it was supplied with and now you've changed them for rechargables it isn't charging them?

You might get a direct replacement that way, rather than a repair?

allquixotic

13:06

mew

Joshua

I have Windows 8 withdrawals when I come to work...
I have really grown to like Windows 8

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That actually works sometimes, though :P

hm

Journeyman Geek

13:21

@Bob: I know ;p

@Joshua: I run 3 different versions of windows at the moment

Bob

ol

are we counting VMs here? :P

Journeyman Geek

I think 7 is my fav, followed by 8 (though its growing on me)

I like xp

@Bob: shared PC is XP, laptop is 7, desktop is currently 8

allquixotic

believe it or not, the UI of Windows Vista is my favorite o.o

Journeyman Geek

next desktop will run 8, and the old desktop will be switched to linux

Bob

@JourneymanGeek eval or full?

@allquixotic it's close to 7, though

what do you prefer about Vista?

Journeyman Geek

13:22

@Bob: next desktop will be full

Bob

(I was on that for the 4 years, only got 7 last year... ... ...)

Journeyman Geek

the main reason I'm avoiding upgrading is to avoid using my school supplied windows 8 licence

allquixotic

I would take the kernel underpinnings (WDDM 1.2, DirectX 11.1, Hyper-V etc.) of Windows 8, completely remove Metro, and re-instate the Windows Vista shell. And I'd be happy.

@Bob mainly the layout of the taskbar, the coloring, and the transparency effects of Aero

although I do like how you can drag and drop taskbar entries to different places in Win7

but I dislike "pinned" icons; I prefer the old quick launch menu

basically I like Cinnamon (Linux compositor)

Bob

To me, 8 looks 'brighter' than 7 looks 'brighter' than Vista

default themes, of course

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I wouldn't be suprised if someone threw together a full vista/7 like shell for 8

Bob

13:25

@JourneymanGeek Isn't there already a way to copy explorer?

Or does that no longer work on RTM?

Journeyman Geek

oh, the start menu hack apparently dosen't work any more

Bob

no, not that hack

Journeyman Geek

and the advantage with a full shell replacement is you don't need to actually hack anything

Bob

I meant copying the explorer binary

damn MS regional pricing

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

13:28

technet standard for me costs a tiny bit less than pro in the US

I wonder if a VPN is enough to fool payment

heh, complaint thread: social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-AU/tnfeedback/thread/…

apparently, downloads are faster from the US technet site too

Joshua

@allquixotic I loved the UI on Vista, to bad it turned out so shitty as an OS...

Journeyman Geek

Server Fault Blog: An update on Sandy

Nick Craver on October 31, 2012

We’re still up and running in Oregon, and have powered down all services in our New York datacenter at 75 broad.

While we’re not actually running anything out of the datacenter, here’s what’s happening:

After our last update the Peer1 datacenter continues to stay online any way they can. When Sandy hit, their basement fuel store was contaminated and the pumps necessary to get it up 17 stories to the generator went offline. Since then employees from several companies hosted there have shown up and continue fueling the generator via bucket brigade. …

this is just whoa

(and yes, I linked this xkcd.com/705

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Bob

Brains aside, I wonder how many poorly-written xkcd.com-parsing scripts will break on this title (or ;;"''{<<[' this mouseover text."

jokerdino

Stop breaking the brackets.)

Journeyman Geek

;p

actually i did that hoping it would onebox

jokerdino

13:43

;p;

Journeyman Geek

The weird sense of duty really good sysadmins have can border on the sociopathic, but it's nice to know that it stands between the forces of darkness and your cat blog's servers.

NOW it oneboxes

Bob

Also, the mouseover text:

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I'd like to see more damage assessments for hurricanes hitting New York and flooding Manhattan -- something like the 1938 Long Island Express, but aimed a bit more to the west. It's just a matter of time.

Journeyman Geek

XKCD can be scary sometimes ;p

Failed_Noob

I am totally confused at this point. At AOC webiste they say e2243Fw2k uses IPS panels while some other sites say it has TN panel. Could anyone confirm it ? I am simply looking for a monitor with IPS panel and hdmi

Sathya

finally back home

allquixotic

13:50

@Bob I hate you

(see the reply comment for context)

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: well that WAS my fault

Bob

@allquixotic :(

allquixotic

@Bob :)

Bob

lol

Oliver Salzburg

superuser.com/badges/54/promoter?userid=36744

So close to completion...

Journeyman Geek

14:06

this is wierd.

One of the drives I've used for ages dosen't seem to work with an XP box it should work it

apparently tis GPT formatted

which I don't remember doing

Joshua

GPT? I don't even know what that is...

allquixotic

@Joshua GUID Partition Table

the new partition table format replacing IBM MBR which supports more than 4 primary partitions and removes the concept of extended/logical partitions and supports more than 2TB volume sizes when booted from EFI

Journeyman Geek

ya, which this disk isn't

Joshua

and XP apparently doesn't support, does Windows 7?

Journeyman Geek

it should

it bloody well should

allquixotic

14:12

Vista and later support GPT + UEFI... I don't know if XP can boot from a GPT volume

I remember using GPT for many years, even before Vista was released, and XP always worked

Joshua

How come I have never heard of this?

Journeyman Geek

boot, no, opening, should

the drive has worked properly in this system for ages

which makes this REALLY wierd

and its not picking up on my 7 box wither

allquixotic

@Joshua most people are oblivious of underlying technology changes, like MBR -> GPT or BIOS -> (U)EFI

it happens but if you just take the easy path you'll never know

Joshua

fair enough...

Journeyman Geek

point is here, I have a wierd potential data loss situation

this does not make me a happy camper

Joshua

14:17

@JourneymanGeek couldn't you just boot into an Ubuntu live disc and access your data there?

move it around a bit.. maybe to a NTFS drive...

Journeyman Geek

its an external drive

Joshua

Okay...still though...

Oliver Salzburg

Nathan DeWitt, Hampton, VA

2.8k 1 14 25

Nathan DeWitt, Hampton, VA

2.8k 3 17 37

sharepoint sql moss performancepoint c# wss sql-server

Is he keeping his rep in sync?

I guess I should not have upvoted that answer

HackToHell

Journeyman Geek

@Joshua: its a simple enough thing to do, It just would take a couple of hours spent doing better things

Joshua

14:19

@HackToHell really? Harry Potter?

Journeyman Geek

forensics is something I am trained todo

HackToHell

yeah :p

Joshua

I have a first edition print of one of the books at home...

I don't remember which one...

I found it at a "Goodwill" like store, for 25 cents...

Oliver Salzburg

@Joshua Well, it's a first edition, so basically a beta

The previous owner most likely upgraded to one of the final builds where Harry is a robot

Journeyman Geek

ok, not detected on windows 7 either

it frigging HAS to be the 1 gig drive ;p

Joshua

14:23

@OliverSalzburg lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek does it come up as a connected device?

jokerdino

New gravatar.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: ya

running testdisk on it now

r.tanner.f

anyone have an event log aggregator they know and love?

Journeyman Geek

running testdisk on it now

Bob

14:31

ok, weird

chat just went down for a bit for me :\

@r.tanner.f For what?

r.tanner.f

@Bob Just want to collect all my Windows logs in one place, maybe get a popup when something hairy comes up

Bob

The Windows Event Viewer isn't good enough?

HackToHell

Event viewer has so much crap

r.tanner.f

@Bob Can it pull from multiple computers and show it in one log?

Journeyman Geek

eh you need to learn to filter it

Bob

14:33

As for popups, you can set up a scheduled task on certain events, and maybe use msg with that

r.tanner.f

Event viewer is really slow, but I'll use it if I can get it to work like that

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek I have now ;)

Bob

@r.tanner.f That would be because there's a crapload of logs :P

r.tanner.f

@Bob Yeah pretty much lol

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: or dump it to a text file and grep it like a boss ;p

Bob

14:34

Event Viewer, you can go Action => Connect to another computer...

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek lol

Bob

not sure if you can have a scheduled task notification with that though

r.tanner.f

Hmm, looks like subscriptions might do the trick too

I might hack around at that if I don't find something that's less... windowsy. Thanks.

Tom Wijsman

Ouch... news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57542863-75/…

Bob

the irony: downornot.com

Journeyman Geek

14:38

@TomWijsman: sigh patent troll

Sathya

Tom Wijsman

@Sathya What's he been smoking? :D

jokerdino

o.O

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek Well yeah, it's pretty clear they waited for MS to release everything before going to the court.

Journeyman Geek

ya

Jared Tritsch

14:42

Max penetration, Max Damages

itll probably be settled out of court

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek sigh patent troll indeed, but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving company except maybe Apple (even then I'm not sure if they're more deserving or not) :P

it's one of those yo dawg moments. yo dawg we herd u like patents so we made some patents to troll you so you can be trolled while yo troll

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Oliver Salzburg

@Sathya :D

Jared Tritsch

Why, exactly is M$ "Deserving"? Is it considered evil that they are a successful company capable of turning a consistent profit?

Journeyman Geek

ms hasn't been too bad about it

sure they do some licencing, and some FUD

but I think trolling is trolling

Jared Tritsch

@JourneymanGeek FUD?

Journeyman Geek

14:51

Fear uncertainty, deception

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek the "D" is "doubt"

Journeyman Geek

claiming linux uses their IP when they're probably flogging exfat licences

what he said

r.tanner.f

@JourneymanGeek "some" licensing is pretty generous ;)

Journeyman Geek

@r.tanner.f: they play by the rules, IMO

allquixotic

@JaredTritsch Financial success in and of itself isn't evil, but if you haven't seen Microsoft commit any evil and completely abolish them of any wrongdoing just by looking at their bank account, that's pretty foolish... just as foolish as it would be to call any corporation with a lot of money evil

Journeyman Geek

14:53

licencing isn't bad. using it as a countercompetitve method, or well as your entire revenue stream coming from well time lawsuites is

Jared Tritsch

Yeah, any company of sufficient size HAS to take steps to secure their product, thats a given. The real character shows on how much they go after the individual consumer. Microsoft, as far as I've seen with the current iteration of windows, does not seem to impose any real "EVIL" upon the individual user from a licensing standpoint. The occasional Product Key does not consititue evil IMO

allquixotic

this is why the companies with a lot of patents should be first in line lobbying the government to abolish patents, though... they are not only the trolls, but they are among the easiest targets to troll.

Jared Tritsch

@allquixotic +1

allquixotic

one would think that Microsoft would be beating down the USPTO's door begging them to please abolish all patents before they're sued into oblivion, just as they are more than happy to do against their competitors

Jared Tritsch

@allquixotic problem is, What would you replace it with? People should have the right to keep their inventions safe from usurpers.

allquixotic

14:56

it's really a nuclear option, mutually assured destruction and all that. they might think they can use patents to their own advantage to beat down competition, but right as they're raising their club to beat down an unsuspecting opponent, someone knifes them in the back with a submarine patent

if they're OK with that, then I'm happy to see them tank as all the patent trolls feed on them like sharks

but if they want a saner system where people actually share ideas and build upon them rather than using them as weapons, then they should fight for a more open society

Journeyman Geek

oh, i meant patent licences

Jared Tritsch

Open source is not necessarily better (ducks)

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: Products need to fight in the marketplace not the court room

HaydnWVN

Kudos to allquixotic for getting 'nuclear, club, knife, submarine, tank, trolls, shark and weapons' into a single paragraph about licencing lol

allquixotic

@JaredTritsch "People should have the right to keep their inventions safe" ---> completely disagree, couldn't possibly disagree more... ideas are meant to be free. Fighting over who found what idea first and hoarding them like gold is COMPLETELY counterproductive. It's like trying to fight the ground for creating friction as you walk.

Journeyman Geek

14:58

lol

@allquixotic: people should be allowed to profit form their inventions

allquixotic

Ideas have the unique trait (especially with the Internet) that transmitting them is cheap/free, and building upon them is extraordinarily easy

HaydnWVN

@allquixotic I INVENTED WALKING!

Journeyman Geek

but that dosen't mean at the cost of anyone who begins to have some idea thats remotely similar

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek Nobody's preventing anyone from profiting, though! There's this huge misconception that if you aren't the only one who's allowed to use an idea then you'll make $0 from it

Joshua

@HaydnWVN do you call it iWalking?

Jared Tritsch

14:59

@allquixotic Yes, but remember back in the industrial revolution? Inverstors would constantly steal and profit off of other people's inventions, and, because they could not compete with the magnates in the market, all their hard work would be lost.

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: well, thats the idea behind patents isn't it?

allquixotic

how many billions have been made from ideas that are in the open? open standards? HTTP? what is the value that has been accrued from using these ideas? would that value be greater if the ideas were hoarded instead?

@JourneymanGeek yes. the wrong idea. exactly. thanks for proving my point

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