Root Access

Journeyman Geek

07:00

@Sathya: quite honestly I couldn't tell with all those caps

Sathya

more like 'Nilam' iirc

@JourneymanGeek converted to sentence case, was still useless

Journeyman Geek

heh looks like the blog post was screwed up in a new and unique way, go fig

/me thinks he'll sit out the blog part of it for now

slhck

morning peeps

Journeyman Geek

heya @slhck

avirk

@slhck morning

slhck

07:03

so what's up?

Journeyman Geek

I just realised the keyboard shortcut is a nice way to simulate a on screen button

thats a total duh moment

avirk

For me not too much after completing level 4

slhck

@avirk wow, congrats!

Matthew Wong

aww i can't put a check next to my own answer.

avirk

Thanks @slhck

Journeyman Geek

07:05

@MatthewWong: there's a delay if you didn't do it immediately

avirk

@Matthew now wait for two days....

slhck

I only have the edit and voting tile :/

Matthew Wong

@avirk damn

@slhck you don't have the accepted answer tile?

slhck

@MatthewWong Well, I have no machine running Windows 8, so I couldn't really ask or answer anything :P

avirk

@slhck you don't post answers for the Windows so how could be other tiles for you ;p

Journeyman Geek

07:07

@MatthewWong: @slhck is one of our resident mac users

avirk

@slhck go with Google :P

slhck

@avirk Haha.. I should probably just do that, yeah

Shouldn't be too hard, guess most questions have been answered by now

avirk

There are still many to come.

Journeyman Geek

@slhck: I suspect very few of the folk who are in the contest are actually running a proper install of windows 8

myself included, I just threw on an evaluation copy

slhck

Well, should be enough right

Matthew Wong

07:09

@JourneymanGeek im running windows 8 on a computer with no windows key

:P

avirk

I'M with 30 days trial after suggesting by nifle and @ jou :D

Journeyman Geek

@MatthewWong: eheh. how is the cr48? ;p

Matthew Wong

buggy as fuck. sometimes when i boot up it says that theres no bootable device. so i have to turn on and off the cr-48 until it boots up

AND i get BSoDs

Journeyman Geek

sounds fun

my systems have been relatively stable lately, other than the hard drives overheating on the shared comp

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The hard drives overheating?

Matthew Wong

07:13

can anyone recommend me a good wireless router?

Bob

Time to dust/install more fans :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: seems to be, according to acronis

@Bob: eh, the system is 6 years old

Bob

@MatthewWong codinghorror.com/blog/2012/06/…

Matthew Wong

wowwwwww thats expensive

the last one that is

Journeyman Geek

@MatthewWong: I've stuck with my WRT54GL so far

old thing, built like a tank ;p

Matthew Wong

07:15

looks like a tank too

Journeyman Geek

a purple and grey doom tank

i could have sworn it was blue o0

Bob

@MatthewWong Would probably have no issues at all with a mid sized office with the appropriate switch

Matthew Wong

i like how my question gets 2 downvotes but my answer gets 2 upvotes

Journeyman Geek

@MatthewWong: I'm convinced there's a few people who're not very happy with self answers

assuming thats what you mean

Bob

mostly the newer people

Journeyman Geek

07:18

yup

Bob

who missed the blog post/add self answer checkbox, and tend to argue against comments mentioning it :\

Journeyman Geek

pretty much

Bob

I really don't understand why they argue that self answers are wrong/not allowed after the official SE blog talking about how they're accepted and encouraged :S

Journeyman Geek

at this point, I actually can't wait for things to get back to normal ;p

Bob

Also, I like italics

Journeyman Geek

07:19

@Bob: cause cough its apparently cheating

Matthew Wong

how so?

Journeyman Geek

@MatthewWong: beats me, apparently you both question and answer?

Matthew Wong

because we're not giving someone else a chance to answer?

Journeyman Geek

nothing stops you from posting a good answer and getting more upvotes

(since votes are not a zero sum game)

Bob

@MatthewWong anyone else can answer

the only real rule of self answered questions is that the question must be phrased as such and should have all the information required for anyone else to answer

in other words, it should look like a normal question the asker doesn't know the answer to :P

Matthew Wong

07:23

oh...

Journeyman Geek

yup

Matthew Wong

well i guess that explains the downvotes

Journeyman Geek

its silly IMO

Bob

@MatthewWong You've only answered one non-Windows-8 question, in 53 answers o.O

Now I'm wondering which one it is :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: ya, I think I pointed out to him there's other questions ;p

Matthew Wong

07:29

i remember doing one but its a pain to go through all my answers

Bob

But, yea, that's a lot :P

very active here

Matthew Wong

im one of the 6 to get the windows-8 badge :P

thought there would be more though

ronalchn

who knows how to get more question views?

Journeyman Geek

I think I answered 64

Matthew Wong

post it on facebook

people will think wtf is this and click on it

Journeyman Geek

07:32

but of course, I'm a generalist

waves his walking stick complaining about kids these days and getting off my lawn and other old people stuff

(disclaimer - I do own a walking stick... though its never used as one. I do, however do not own a lawn)

@ronalchn: get it on reddit I guess

ronalchn

@JourneymanGeek 29=old?

Journeyman Geek

@ronalchn: sure feel that way

ronalchn

@JourneymanGeek not sure how I can do that. I don't like making lots of accounts.

Journeyman Geek

;p

ronalchn

I already added it to stumbleupon, and a lot of news sites

Journeyman Geek

07:34

or yanno, just try not to get every single tile

Matthew Wong

why not?

Journeyman Geek

oh, you can

but there's more to the site than the challenge

learn new things! challenge yourself! get your dream job!

Matthew Wong

im already in my dream job :)

Journeyman Geek

see, its so amazing it acts BACKWARDS IN TIME!

Matthew Wong

:)

ronalchn

07:38

zzz, my system backup taking so long...

its going to be 1/2 TB

Matthew Wong

zzzzzzzz

slhck

@MatthewWong About your question, since you were asking about the downvotes

Even if you can ask and answer your own question, we require these questions to be of the same standards as others. So, just because you know the answer that shouldn't make the question itself vague, or lacking research effort. If the answer really is "click on the search button", then why did there have to be a question about it in the first place?

So, asking and answering your own questions should be more of that sort

Matthew Wong

i just thought that would be a good question because usually that functionality would be in app. instead it was already supported in the os which i kind of missed.

and @bob gave me the same explanation too

slhck

@MatthewWong Ah, fair enough, I just saw you asking on the main site.

0

Q: A free and online pc/hard devastator?

I have a PC with Window XP operating system. I don't have any important data or program or documents... on this computer. I want a free online devastator virus or program that sabotage this computer and its hard, because I want a period of time this computer don't work and will disable ;) I do th...

Matthew Wong

nooo i was gonna flag that

slhck

07:51

I'll let the community handle it :P

We could just tell him to plug straight into the internet, disable the firewall and see what happens.

Matthew Wong

or delete system32

ronalchn

@slhck yay, free flag

Journeyman Geek

@slhck: the only problem there is, I can't think of which one of 3 close reasons to put ;p

slhck

haha

come on guys, free flags y'all

Matthew Wong

i chose spam :P

slhck

07:53

@MatthewWong Well, technically it's not spam, so please don't choose that option unless it's really viagra or chinese gold mines or whatever.

Journeyman Geek

@MatthewWong: spam's more likely to get rejected

ronalchn

I put too localized

Journeyman Geek

since it comes with a free automatic rep penalty

ronalchn

because few people would want to do that

Journeyman Geek

off topic would be the best option

Matthew Wong

07:53

wheres the undo button?

slhck

@MatthewWong I cleared it for you. You can't undo it yourself.

Journeyman Geek

there isn't one ;p

Matthew Wong

0

Q: Downloading apps on BlueStacks

I am trying to download an app on BlueStacks App Player for Windows. It says it is downloading with a dialog box but it stays there for ever. The image in the links below shows the dialog box. http://i.imgur.com/xblH7.png

download google-apps

Journeyman Geek

since I can't flag (not that it matters anymore), I'll just post something unintelligible as a comment

fixed

though I guess someone needs to do the tag/tagwiki for it

slhck

@JourneymanGeek we have a couple of bluestacks questions, might need to tag those

Journeyman Geek

07:57

@slhck: tag created, as is the exerpt ;)

Matthew Wong

i would like to suggest a synonym for metro-ui

microsoft-design-language

ronalchn

metro-ui needs to be renamed

Matthew Wong

it is renamed

Journeyman Geek

they call it windows-store-apps officially

slhck

all children away?

Journeyman Geek

07:58

but really its just a pain in the **** with so many names

slhck

Journeyman Geek

...

OLD COUNTRY WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME?

Matthew Wong

such a waste of a good username

neowin.net/news/microsoft-design-language-is-the-new-metro

Journeyman Geek

@MatthewWong pcpro.co.uk/news/377860/…

I swear, they themselves don't know

slhck

haha

Journeyman Geek

08:00

I think MUI is probably a good middle ground until they frigging make up their minds

Matthew Wong

why can't microsoft just choose one?

ronalchn

they like to change the name of everything

Matthew Wong

they never changed windows 8

Journeyman Geek

I think they weren't prepared for being sued about metro

Matthew Wong

i can't believe im still getting upvotes for this.

63

A: Is there a way to enable "god mode" in Windows 8, like you could in Windows 7?

You just do the same on Windows 8. Go to Desktop. Create a new folder. Rename it to GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}

slhck

08:02

I can't believe the OP didn't even try this.

Matthew Wong

i can't believe its still not butter

ronalchn

sorry @JourneymanGeek, I had to un-upvote you so that another answer is higher than yours

Bob

@MatthewWong ? you can have multiple people with the same display name

how do you think I'm using "Bob"?

Matthew Wong

@Bob i assumed you were an early adopter

ronalchn

@Bob really? what happens if somebody tries to impersonate somebody else?

slhck

08:13

@ronalchn We'll kick 'em in the butt.

ronalchn

what if two of the same name are in the same thread?

how do you @... differentiate between them

Matthew Wong

the database erases itself

Bob

@ronalchn you don't :P

the latter one is replied to

@ronalchn user id, rep

Matthew Wong

night for me

slhck

see you around @MatthewWong

Misha

08:20

I'm running out of questions to answer

Did anybody write a blog post?

ronalchn

@Misha a few people already

Sathya

@slhck watchlist

Journeyman Geek

@ronalchn not cause the answer was not up to scratch?

ronalchn

@JourneymanGeek because I upvoted both, but the scores were the same, and I thought the other one was better for now

Journeyman Geek

eh, votes arn't a zero sum game, but whatever

superuser.com/a/493746/10165 this one I guess?

Bob

08:27

@ronalchn Ow.. the sheer number and general quality of those makes it a bit daunting :P

ronalchn

@JourneymanGeek yeah, its also the one I put a bounty on to try get more views, the aim is to get 1k views by contest end date

Sathya

well that was rude.

slhck

@ronalchn You should vote on the merits of each post, not in comparison with other answers.

Journeyman Geek

08:43

@ronalchn: Really your choice, I really don't think I have anything to say on the matter. The 10 rep really isn't that big a thing to me. I do think you need not have mentioned it though

Journeyman Geek

09:08

facepalms My dad got another phone in india. Mom kept saying it was a 'Tacumo' Turns out she meant Docomo...

Bob

playing with gravatar :P

Journeyman Geek

foxen!

feedproxy.google.com/~r/ZooBorns/~3/AAas4jUReOY/… the first pic here may be a pretty good gravatar, properly cropped

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ooh adds to collection

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek lmao

Journeyman Geek

@Sathya: for a moment I was hoping dad bought a wierd off brand phone ;p

its likely to be something common and maybe even usable.

slhck

09:22

People are strange.

> not constructive – [username] 13 mins ago; Vote Up

Bob

@slhck wait, you can see that someone upvoted? o.O

slhck

@Bob Only if you flag, we can see whether you actually left a comment, etc.

Otherwise, no, of course not.

Bob

ah

HaydnWVN

09:50

@JourneymanGeek What's default image size of avatars on here? (so i know what to crop to)

Journeyman Geek

@HaydnWVN: I actually have no idea. gravatar will resize it for you

hm

/me is noticing some odd question/answer patterns

HaydnWVN

@JourneymanGeek and Macrium Reflect Free, any good? I've been using Acronis TrueImage (oldish version from Hirens) and then the latest on my desktop when/if I need to restore anything... Previously used Ghost in the same way.

Bob

@HaydnWVN 64x64 px on chat, left of the input box

HaydnWVN

I don't like Clonezilla, but still use it, g4l is good too from a live CD

Journeyman Geek

@HaydnWVN: I love it. Also helps one of their devs uses superuser ;)

HaydnWVN

09:55

@Bob thanks

Journeyman Geek

clonezilla is.. a little quirky but reliable

Bob

128x128 on profile page on SU

Journeyman Geek

@HaydnWVN: reflect free is my backup software of choice on windows XP

I ought to get the paid version when I get a job and get a proper backup plan set up

HaydnWVN

@JourneymanGeek My usage is backing up 2000/XP/7 to an image for backup when migrating users machines, so it's only really for 1-off backup purposes rather than ongoing backups

Journeyman Geek

ought to work then

I'd also check the licence if its in a professional environment, I mostly do it at home

Office has been 'backups? who has time for backups?'

HaydnWVN

09:58

@JourneymanGeek Yeah I looked at it before but came to the 'ease of use' of just having a Hiren CD for everything so naturally ended up using Acronis or g4l from the linux liveCD

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

oh boy

then again, faulty backup systems aren't any better

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: oh, we should know better

HaydnWVN

@JourneymanGeek Lol these backups are for our use more than anything - the users have network mapped my docs and know to store important things on their group shares... 90% the time backups are for my peace of mind lol

Journeyman Geek

@HaydnWVN: Quite honestly I've had a few painful data losses

I cannot back up enough

HaydnWVN

10:00

(as i like to nuke n pave) >:D

I've had one very painful personal one (lost 12gig of MP3's about 8 years ago) and been involved in many recoveries on a professional level

Bob

my dad's office, where he's semi-official tech guy and I'm asked half the time, has had one external backup drive crash and multiple RAID failures in the last half a year... though the 8 year old server computer with a possibly faulty RAID card is a major problem :P

Journeyman Geek

@HaydnWVN: I had one of those seagate 1tb drives with faulty firmware

Bob

I'm just waiting for the day when the server goes down completely and he has to restore onto one of the desktop machines from backup :P

Journeyman Geek

music, thankfully I have multiple backups right now

Bob

so much for RAID

Journeyman Geek

10:03

2 copies, one on external one on internal, and a selection on the phone ;)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek where do you get your music from? :P

Journeyman Geek

oh, and one more copy on my old ipod

@Bob: quite a few sources, most of which involve things falling off the back of a truck

Bob

lol

Journeyman Geek

started off with my brother's music collection

then people sent me stuff

then I went looking for more stuff

I PLEAD THE FIFTH!

HaydnWVN

@JourneymanGeek I've naturally progressed to multiple copies now rather than a backup routine

Bob

10:04

I actually don't know how online stores (e.g. iTunes/Amazon) handle loss of music after download - do you need to buy it again?

@JourneymanGeek Aren't you in Singapore? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: Well, most of my music is flac

HaydnWVN

always had a home server (usually a previous gen workstation) for file storage but the last 2 years (since a house move & server death) i've lapsed

Journeyman Geek

which mean I rip and tag a good chunk of them from source myself

@Bob details details details

HaydnWVN

@Bob Depends on the online store, most the download is linked to the account so you can re-download, some only for a specific time after purchase, some don't even offer it unless you purchase additional services

Bob

that reminds me, I need to figure out offsite backup sometime

Journeyman Geek

10:06

most of the online music stores are DRM free these days arn't they?

HaydnWVN

@Bob Note: setup offsite backup as simple as possible... Otherwise it doesn't happen

Bob

@HaydnWVN I'm thinking crashplan

Journeyman Geek

crashplan is great when it works

(I've had issues with one of my systems, darn thing just dosen't backup)

Bob

eh.. gonna be painfully slow though

Journeyman Geek

ahh, here's the cute part

you can backup to USB

then move the backup to another system

then attach it

and the backup continues from there

Bob

10:09

it takes me all night (12 hours) to upload 3gb

HaydnWVN

We have a backup server here running 3rd party backup setup... 5 Daily full backups of our group folders on Fileserver & whole Database server. Then a bi-monthy end of month full backup of the Fileserver, Database server and Intranet server. the end of months and previous day backups are always offsite.

Bob

2 tb of data... oh crap

assuming no compression, that would take me a good year to upload xD

@JourneymanGeek continues from there?

continues to do what?

HaydnWVN

Entire system backs up onto a removable caddy on an old server (IDE interface) which is starting to become a problem (3.5" IDE drives are hard to get 500gig+) and the speed (currently taking 10 hours)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: you can move a backup on USB to another system, then continue the backup over network

Bob

oh lol

nice

Journeyman Geek

10:11

and if they're on the same lan, it gets done over lan

feedproxy.google.com/~r/IHasAHotdog/~3/7sGYcdBC3jk/6717913600

totally unrelated but utterly adorable

Failed_Noob

Hello guys, I am planning to buy a new monitor and I just picked one but others in my house says they have never heard of the brand. This is the one that I picked aocmonitorap.com/egypt_eng/monitor_265.php. Should I opt for this try other brands like Dell , Samsung etc ?

Journeyman Geek

oh AOC

supposedly decent budget brand

Failed_Noob

is its life expectancy good ?

Journeyman Geek

actually nearly picked up one of theirs but the asus I ended up getting was slightly bigger

no idea.didn't end up getting it

they should be ok though, everyone uses nearly the same parts ;p

(I have a batch of benqs though. Every. damned. capacitor. is. shot)

Bob

o.O

how to kill a series: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

Failed_Noob

10:24

my dad says he has a samsung CRT syncmaster that is around 9 years old and still works like new. So he is kinda forcing me to pick a monitor from samsung brand but I can't find any Samsung monitor with IPS panel , HDMI and full HD, with LED

Journeyman Geek

hmm

why not go for one of those offbrand korean monitors?

300 bucks gets you everything but HDMI, a little more would get you that too

ronalchn

@Failed_Noob CRTs always last a long time (as old technologies often do)

Journeyman Geek

service has been ok from other people who have had em

Failed_Noob

hmm

Journeyman Geek

(I want one, eventually, new desktop comes first ;p)

Oliver Salzburg

10:35

@Failed_Noob I wouldn't be surprised if you pry open a cheap monitor and find a Samsung LCD panel inside ;P

HaydnWVN

@Failed_Noob AOC ok brand have a couple of them here, but tend to look at Hanns-G and LG where possible (have 20+ Hanns-G's)

Oh Acer and Viewsonic too

Looking at my list we do have a couple of older Samsungs and quite a few HP's probably from new machine deals (all our machines are 90% HP)

(including servers)

anyone seen these? Samsung ATIV smart tablets? misco.co.uk/samsung-ativ-smart-pc?cm_sp=Samsung--ativ--carousel

10pt touch screens?! :o

Oliver Salzburg

@HaydnWVN Have not

HaydnWVN

Good specs on the i5, shame about the battery life (<6 hours = painful)

Journeyman Geek

10:57

@OliverSalzburg: there's like 3-4 panel makers left

and usually the panels arn't the parts that fail, in my case its capasitors

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Haven't had any monitor failures in a few years

Except our (Samsung) television

Has a dead pixel column :(

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: I had a bad batch

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Ouch

Journeyman Geek

been fixing them up over the holidays, almost got one working of 3

then I have another one where the screen goes yellow every so often

but that was a serious no name screen

Bob

@JourneymanGeek If it's VGA, could be a faulty connection

Journeyman Geek

11:08

hmm, I'll give it a shot if we didn't throw it out in the move

HaydnWVN

@JourneymanGeek If it's TFT it'll be power inverter

Journeyman Geek

which is probably not worth fixing

HaydnWVN

most colour/flicker problems are inverter related not panels

Journeyman Geek

ya, but If i fix all the broken monitors I have, I may have too many ;p

HaydnWVN

Oh i dunno, i've found power inverters for laptop screens on ebay for ~$50

ROFL

acronis.co.uk/backup-recovery/…

Also think about possible productivity loss caused by viruses or hardware failure, especially when your users are no a road.

Journeyman Geek

11:19

@HaydnWVN: I have 3 monitors that need a re-cap

and you can pretty much get a complete circuit board for that much, with inverters

HaydnWVN

11:34

@JourneymanGeek Agreed, but worth it for laptops

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob i.imgur.com/Qkwk3.png

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: when i get a job I gotta get me one of those

Bob

@OliverSalzburg o.O

ok, so 1. it's still relevant and 2. I need a MSDN subscription :P

Oliver Salzburg

Hehehe

Given that they shower you in product keys, it's really worth every cent :D

But then again, you're not allowed to use them in production

Journeyman Geek

production? no. personal testing, frick, heck, yes.

Bob

11:44

heh

5 keys per product?

why the hell not

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob More like 25

Don't know what happens if you need more

Bob

@OliverSalzburg msdn.microsoft.com/en-au/subscriptions/cc137104.aspx

Oliver Salzburg

But their library contains everything from the first MS-DOS to the latest Windows Server 2012 Datacenter Edition

Bob

> subscriptions include five product keys for current versions of Windows and Office products and three product keys for older versions

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Oh they reduced it. Oh well

Bob

11:45

though they mention multiple activations, so I'm confused now

Oliver Salzburg

Well, we never really purchased it for anything but software for testing

So there never was a key shortage

5 feels a bit too little though! :D

Bob

lol

wow, $20k for the ultimate one

and only the $10k premium one has office :\

Journeyman Geek

o0

Bob

...brb checking a proxy

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob IIRC they used to have VS Standard with an MSDN Premium option

Now they don't seem to have it any longer :(

Journeyman Geek

11:52

that sounds a LOT more expensive than the last time I checked the prices of those

Bob

!@#$

yea

bloody Australian prices

through a VPN, the same are $13k and $6k respectively

HaydnWVN

@JourneymanGeek Yeah i'm sure it was nowhere near that, pretty sure i was offered it for £1500 when i started my MCSE

Bob

OS subscription is $1100 compared to $600

Journeyman Geek

ohh

Bob

gah

Journeyman Geek

11:53

look at technet

Bob

almost double the fricking price on everything

HaydnWVN

brb reboot

Bob

note to self: if buying MSDN subscription, do so through a USA VPN -___-

Journeyman Geek

fewer licences, but cheaper

Bob

fewer?

in what way?

oh, technet

Journeyman Geek

11:55

well i suspect so, this computer is lagging, defragging now ;p

Bob

same story

Oliver Salzburg

Wow. Yesterday our fridge broke down. It keeps making alarm noises. So, obviously, I wanted to call support this morning after the fridge has kept me awake all night

Bob

technet standard is $337 in Aus, $199 in US

alarm noises?

Oliver Salzburg

So I just grabbed the house phone, and the battery is drained!

Bob

when our fridge broke down, it just stopped cooling :P

Oliver Salzburg

11:56

I put the phone on the charging station and just checked it again. Still empty

I open the thing up, there are batteries inside. The non-rechargeable kind

Bob

do MSDN/TechNet licences expire if you stop renewing the subscription?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I don't think so

Bob

i.e. do activated products become unactivated?

the TechNet one implies that

@OliverSalzburg wait wut

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Not from my experience

Bob

someone failed battery replacement :P

Oliver Salzburg

11:58

@Bob Girlfriend replaced them the other day.

Bob

I guess Access full-version software1 for 12 months with no feature limits means access to new licences/downloads

@OliverSalzburg Ah, the non-technical one? ;P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Right :D

Journeyman Geek

meh "Microsoft may deactivate or otherwise limit your keys when your subscription ends. Deactivated keys will not be able to activate software."

Oliver Salzburg

This can't be that good for the phone. Trying to charge non-rechargeable batteries for weeks

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ah, so already activated software's good, I hope?

@OliverSalzburg phone would be fine

you're lucky the batteries didn't leak/explode, though

Oliver Salzburg

11:59

@Bob Good to know

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