Root Access

allquixotic

16:00

i don't keep full disk backups of programs though, which is expensive if i did do it, and time consuming if i didn't, because i either have to buy a separate 8TB RAID array to backup programs, or spend hours re-downloading gigabytes of data

i even had the technical capability to save any files i wanted to save on my broken, non-bootable Windows 7.5 (I'm calling it 7.5 because it was neither fully upgraded to Win8 nor successfully rolled back to Win7) because i booted a portable HDD of Fedora 17 and could mount the partition

but i sat there at 2am looking at my files on my 8TB HDD for about 20 minutes and was like.... ah, screw it and nuked it from orbit

Bob

o.O

allquixotic

win8 did do a clean install correctly, but i'm just so fed up that they claim it's all easy and reliable and compatible with the upgrade process and then if you have XYZ program installed from ABC well-known and reputable vendor, it doesn't get flagged by the compatibility checker thing and lets you install anyway, and then it breaks the upgrade

or if you have some directory permission set some way or WHATEVER the problem was (couldn't even tell from the cryptic and unhelpful error messages)

Bob

I never trust Windows with upgrades

Just so much potential for things to go wrong, especially in my case

allquixotic

i had development, media production, gaming and virtualization software all on the same box; pretty loaded down with almost all major proprietary programs

Bob

RST RAID = massive driver/OSinstaller effup

allquixotic

16:04

from Adobe, Sony, VMware, Microsoft, Valve, Blizzard, Bethesda, Bioware, you name it

thousands of dollars worth of software

i'm canning it and going with linux, none of it is really all that needed or useful compared to the linux alternatives, i just felt like being leet and spending my money on "powerful" software when i bought it

Bob

@allquixotic I don't think it whitelists anything, heck someone had VS2010 flagged

allquixotic

i rarely used most of it, and when i did use it, it almost always needed a 500 MB download/update

@Bob that was me

HackToHell

0

Q: Will Windows 8 be OEM when I upgrade a XP OEM pc?

Will Windows 8 be OEM when I upgrade a XP OEM PC?

allquixotic

i uninstalled everything the advisor flagged

Bob

@allquixotic well... :P

I should read them more closely? :P

allquixotic

16:06

go to bed before you end up lecturing me on backups again

HackToHell

@allquixotic Is this gonna hit you ? gizmodo.com/5955168/…

allquixotic

@HackToHell yes, the eye of the hurricane is currently projected to pass within 20 miles of my house

HackToHell

that's bad :/

2

A: If I buy the Windows 8 Pro upgrade, can I do multiple fresh installs?

You can use the refresh feature of Windows 8 and you can do it any number of times :) When you reset, the following steps happen The PC boots into the Windows Recovery Environment (Windows RE). Windows RE erases and formats the hard drive partitions on which Windows and personal data reside....

allquixotic

i don't think i'll care about windows-8 on Sunday when I'm running on 3% battery power on my last backup battery on my phone, with no electricity

Bob

@allquixotic you should spend today/tomorrow digging a bunker

HackToHell

16:08

lol

Bob

and go buy some car batteries or a diesel generator

allquixotic

actually, scratch that... if i can get outside safely and into my car, i should be able to charge my phone in my car using my car charger

Bob

maybe satellite internet

allquixotic

i'm filling up my gas tank tonight so i have a full tank of gas to turn my car into a gas generator

Bob

@allquixotic on second thought, don't sit in a flimsy light car when a hurricane is passing by...

allquixotic

16:09

@Bob as long as it doesn't destroy the cell tower, i'll have 4G LTE or at least 3G EvDO

Robert Harvey

What's a decent printer nowadays for home use on a Windows machine? My wife has a Brother MFC-J6910DW, but it's a POS, and we're looking to replace it with something else. We don't print photographs, so I'm leaning towards a laser printer since ink is so expensive for an inkjet.

r.tanner.f

@RobertHarvey My work uses an army of Dell 5310n's. They haven't failed us yet, thought I must admit I don't even know what they look like.

allquixotic

@RobertHarvey I recently asked a similar question; I really like the $299 price point for HP's home office laserjet multifunction (there's only really two choices for HP laser printers under $1500, so you don't have many options unless you explore outside HP)

I've always found HP's reliability and drivers to be top notch so I'd go with that, but I hate HP's inkjet printers because the cartridges have the nozzles and so much logic on them that the cartridges are way expensive

Bob

@RobertHarvey would you like a network printer (ethernet) or local only (USB)?

Do you need scanning/copying?

Robert Harvey

The Brother wifi's, and I really like that.

Not necessarily. We send the occasional fax. We've never actually scanned or copied anything, AFAIK. But maybe that's because the Brother sucks.

allquixotic

16:11

for basically a decade I think HP has been the leader in laserjet printers, maybe more than that

shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/….

Robert Harvey

Thanks. I'll check out the HP.

allquixotic

HP LaserJet Pro 100 color MFP M175nw

r.tanner.f

So the company that handles our T1 lines and phones went down today. As in their phones went down, along with ours and their website. Good times...

allquixotic

@r.tanner.f cool! how do you have internet tho?

r.tanner.f

We're not hooked up through them, thank God

Besides we're sitting on a fat pipeline here, 100mbps

and that's not just at work, that's what my dad has for his fiber connection

allquixotic

16:17

speaking of fat pipes, a guy in the EE.SE chat showed me a $1500 carrier-grade wireless transmitter operating in the 24 GHz band (horrid at going through solid objects, but goes extremely long distances at high gain) that can send 1000 Mbps over a distance of 14 kilometers.

i was thinking if someone had FiOS in my area they could build one on a pole and send it to me.... because i can't get FiOS where i live

my own little personal carrier grade network lol

I'm not sure how busy with existing traffic the 24 GHz band is, though.

whoa, i just got a really vivid and real-seeming premonition that the fire alarm would go off in my building

avirk

I copied and paste a whole guide.

:P

allquixotic

it was making a horrifying sound (granted I've never heard it go off before) and in my mind it sounded as loud as if it actually were happening

Bob

@allquixotic Is that a regulated band?

allquixotic

@Bob No

avirk

0

A: If I buy the Windows 8 Pro upgrade, can I do multiple fresh installs?

yes you can do it many time but one thing is important in that is you should have always your activation key of Windows which is most important thing in this. From How To Refresh Or Reset Your Windows 8 PC It is advised that Windows 8 Refresh your PC system repair utility should only be use...

is that could be a good answer?

Bob

16:23

@avirk At the very least put it in a quote block

but this borders dangerously close to plagiarism, it's better if you can summarise it a bit :\

HackToHell

Why does all my answers get only 2 votes :/

avirk

@Bob in answer?

@HackToHell I can't vote 3 time :P

Bob

@avirk If you take something word for word, you are expected to put it in a quote block..

Otherwise it seems like you wrote it yourself :\

avirk

@Bob my bandwidth is 40kbps from today can you dit it for me :)

@Bob although I have refer the link in very start of answer, however forst two lines are mine :P

@HackToHell you are lying there are 3 :P

HackToHell

@avirk omigod

I am at level 2 :)

avirk

16:28

@HackToHell congrats :)

HackToHell

And I got this privilage superuser.com/privileges/close-questions

yay 3k :)

avirk

@Bob I can but it will took too much time to edit the Screen shots :P

@Bob thanks for edit it :)

@HackToHell VTC now no flag more :)

@HackToHell I've completed level 4 85% as I have no post with 15+

r.tanner.f

@HackToHell Why do you have two downvotes on the antivirus question? O_o

avirk

@r.tanner.f its depend on the downvoter, I don't understand how they judge the post.

0

A: Where can I get a Windows 8 side-loading product key?

An Enterprise SKU is not required. You can side-load on Windows RT or Windows 8 Pro if you've activated a Sideloading Product Key. Details on how to get such a key are not yet available. See: How to Add and Remove Apps Managing Client Access to the Windows Store Windows AD...

@r.tanner.f here user ramhound downvote on my answer while I gave an official link for that :)

r.tanner.f

@avirk Ramhound downvotes a lot.

avirk

16:34

@r.tanner.f yep, he comments more than post the answers :)

r.tanner.f

@avirk That's because his answers get downvoted, haha

avirk

@r.tanner.f but his +1 gives user a pain in result of -20 :P

7

A: How do I shutdown Windows 8?

Windows 8 still supports the command line feature to shut it down. You can just press the Win+R button to open the run dialog box and type the command shutdown /s /f /t 0 /s for shut it down /f for forcefully close any application and shut it down immediately /t for time...

r.tanner.f

@avirk ?

avirk

@r.tanner.f check that out I have posted it with reg key to add the power option in context menu

Bob

hm

18

Q: What are the differences between Windows 8 editions?

My DreamSpark account shows me several download links for Windows 8. I am not sure what is the difference between them and which one is suitable for me. Microsoft Windows 8 with Apps 32-bit Microsoft Windows 8 with Apps 64-bit Microsoft Windows 8 Debug/Checked Build 32-bit Microsoft Windows 8 D...

windows-8

avirk

16:38

@r.tanner.f even we can add the option in Win+x menu

Bob

Should that one be closed as too localised?

It's referring to the preview builds

avirk

@Bob VTC :)

@Bob is it possible to install the Windows 7 after Windows 8 in dual boot?

Bob

@avirk Sure, though you may have to repair the bootloader

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avirk

@Bob fix mbr ?

Bob

16:44

@avirk I don't know what exactly.

r.tanner.f

@Bob Too localized? Seems widespread to me. Rather close as duplicate if anything but IMO it looks fine.

Bob

My current system alternates between the Win7 and Win8 bootloader, and I haven't even installed Win8 yet.

@r.tanner.f It's referring to the preview bbuilds.

Not the RTM versions

r.tanner.f

@Bob Hmmm... I bet a lot of these will show up on the MSDN too, and probably persist after release, though I can't say for sure because I'm not up on that kind of thing

Do they keep debug/checked builds around after release?

Bob

I have no idea, TBH. At the very least, the question would have to be edited to make it clear it's talking about the previews.

avirk

@OliverSalzburg I ping regarding custom ROM.

r.tanner.f

16:47

SDK will stick around too. Symbols are more debugging so that depends on debug/checked...

avirk

@Bob do you have custom ROM?

r.tanner.f

Hard to tell =\ Are we nuking preview and RTM questions already?

Graham Wager

@avirk Nice info :)

Bob

@r.tanner.f Well, I've just edited out the ambiguity. Two close votes so far. I'll leave another comment, then just see what happens :\

avirk

@GrahamWager glad to help :)

Bob

16:48

actually

if anyone has an active MSDN subscription and can say what's still there, that'd be great

avirk

@GrahamWager even you can add the shortcut to Win+x menu too.

Graham Wager

Yeah, I've seen details on customising the Win+X menu, like to try and make it awkward don't they? lol

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Is this question still relevant from the MSDN side of things?

@avirk What?

avirk

@Bob Custom ROM for the android device .

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob I guess so superuser.com/posts/402059/revisions

avirk

16:51

@GrahamWager its depend on the user point of view, some will take that a good part and some will as a bad.

@OliverSalzburg ah you are here!

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Eh, missed that :\

@avirk Nope, stock (but modified, manually) ROM.

Oliver Salzburg

@avirk I'm currently in a support chat

Bob

@KronoS superuser.com/questions/493382/…

r.tanner.f

17:13

@HackToHell You made it to level 2!

unNaturhal

Hi everyone!

Luke

Mornin'

unNaturhal

Could someone tell me a way to install WindowsXP on an USB device? I have to format a netbook..

Sathya

3

Q: Installing Windows XP to and running from an USB drive

Before you tell me to google around, trust me I did and nothing worked for me. I must be missing something. I have a small PC with limited storage options. I have a small internal hard drive and 8GB usb stick. I can't fit the Windows XP install on the internal hard drive. So I'm trying to instal...

windows-xp installation boot usb-storage

4

Q: Install Windows XP to USB Hard Drive and Run from It

I wanted to know if there was a way (that worked!) to both Install and Run Windows XP Pro from a USB 2.0 connected Hard Drive. My system does allow to boot from external usb hard drive, but when I tried to install Windows XP to the USB HDD, it didn't allow me to. My ultimate goal is to be able t...

windows-xp hard-drive external-hard-drive installation boot

Luke

unNaturhal

17:27

@Sathya Thanks :)

Sathya

@unNaturhal you're welcome

superuser.com/questions/493445/hi-titon-iyfypokknl-lokli0i

wut.

sidran32

So this came in the mail today. I'm at work so once I get home, I'll try loading it up on my desktop and see how it goes.

Sathya

nice

sidran32

Yup. Truth be told, from what I can tell, I like the new stylistic choices Microsoft has been making, with the simple, flat colors, and all. I've often thought about the kind of UI design that I prefer, and that was pretty much it,.

You can do the flat colors and minimalism without it looking like a 20 year old UI, and I think they did that.

I don't think I'm putting it on my laptop, though. It's a work machine, and I don't see anything really added by putting Windows 8 on it.

I'm getting a touch-enabled ultrabook/tablet thingy anyway.

0

Q: Will programs designed for Windows 7 work on Windows 8?

One of the main questions slowing me from upgrading to Windows 8 is backwards-compatibility. I have many programs from smaller companies that I know will not be able to come up with a windows 8-specific version for a long time, so will I be able to use Windows 7 versions on Windows 8?

windows-8 compatibility

Sure, the answer seems obvious, but I'm not quite sure why this got downvoted.

Sathya

@sidran32 there's no straight answer for that. It may/may not work.

sidran32

17:43

There's always outlying situations, though, so IMO, I think the provided answer is most likely to be the correct one. Most programs written for Windows 7 will work for Windows 8, though if there's a Windows 8 version, that'd be the preferred one to use.

Sathya

yay, Most Wanted Preload can now be started!

sidran32

:)

r.tanner.f

I've been keeping on eye on those who are in the running for the 1k views tile:
http://superuser.com/search?tab=newest&q=%5bwindows-8%5d%20views%3a500

Yesterday there were only 3 potentials

suddenly @FiveO is almost there :P

Bob

Heh.

0

Q: Does or doesn't allow Windows 8 registry to manipulate

To understand how Microsoft is overcoming Hacking or Cracking issues on many proprietary software. I tried to install a software with keygen i got from internet. And i found unable to edit the registry settings in windows 8. My Question: In windows 8, can we edit the registry settings or no ?

windows-8 windows-registry

> I tried to install a software with keygen i got from internet

Graham Wager

@r.tanner.f My views will come later, when people are going to bed :P

r.tanner.f

17:51

@GrahamWager Did yours spike up? I swear it wasn't there yesterday.

Sathya

9

Q: How do I get Windows 8 to run 2 Metro apps on each display of an extended display?

I have a Dell U2312HM 23" screen connected to my HP Envy laptop in Extended desktop mode. Is there a way I get 2 Metro "Windows 8 Style UI" to run side-by-side, with one app on each of the screens? My attempts to run them both on either side have been futile, Windows insists on putting the othe...

multiple-monitors windows-8 extended-desktop

this is close, but out of contest, unfortunately

Tom Wijsman

@allquixotic: A bad time for DKIM, lol... lists.exim.org/lurker/message/20121026.080330.74b9147b.en.html

Graham Wager

Mine was completely mad the first couple of hours until it got closed, now it's growing again since re-open

r.tanner.f

Ohhhhhh that's right

I hope I make it >_< lol

Bob

@Sathya So much for MUI being the preferred one :P

r.tanner.f

17:53

Unfortunately it's losing momentum every day, and mostly useless now that Win8 is on DVDs commercially

Bob

@r.tanner.f What is this?

Graham Wager

still makes me chuckle inside

Bob

@GrahamWager I had no clue :P

took me a while to figure out what the charm bar was, though that can be attributed to crappy cursor movement in a VM

Graham Wager

I have to admit, I hate the name of it

r.tanner.f

I was so pissed the first time I went to shut down. I just held the button down. Not gonna go on an easter egg hunt for something so simple. -_-

@GrahamWager But yeah I imagine yours is going to go crazy tonight especially :P

Graham Wager

17:57

Funny thing was, I saw the power thing early on, but I assumed it was to do with power profiles as everything else down there was similar to what I was used to in the system tray

Bob

Too bad SU is so far down the Google results page for "shutdown windows 8"

and then it was this question that came up as the very last first page result

18

Q: How to reboot/shutdown Windows 8 without the mouse?

Nowadays on Windows 7, if I have no mouse on my computer I just press Win Button+->+Enter: This makes my computer shutdown without needing to use a mouse. However, on Windows 8, I need the mouse to open that charms menu on the right side of the screen, open the "Settings" tab -> "Power" -> The...

windows keyboard-shortcuts windows-8 shutdown

r.tanner.f

@Bob Yeah that's what I get too

Bob

@GrahamWager power is now a setting :\

Graham Wager

@Bob appears so..!

it's result 11 in Bing...but MS insert their own entry as the first result: windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-8/how-shut-down-turn-off-pc

guess they're expecting trouble!

r.tanner.f

@GrahamWager How did you search? Doesn't show up in Bing for me.

Graham Wager

18:08

bing.com/…

r.tanner.f

Yeah no superuser in there for me

Graham Wager

UK edition

strange, still appearing here...

r.tanner.f

Maybe Bing just doesn't know me very well :P

Graham Wager

lol maybe not

allquixotic

"Everything is proceeding exactly as I have foreseen." -Gregory S. Forbes, October 2012 and Emperor Palpatine, a long time ago

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_S._Forbes

Graham Wager

18:11

oooh, only need my last few +3 posts for levels 3 & 4 now :D

sidran32

IIRC, Vista also had "Shut down" hidden, with "Standby" as the default. I believe with Vista SP1 they changed it to "Shutdown" as default. Amusing they're going through the same thing with Windows 8. :P

r.tanner.f

Why don't they understand we want to shutdown or machines? Gezz :P

allquixotic

@r.tanner.f because you don't need to shutdown a 9" ultrathin tablet/netbook/thing, so why would you need to shutdown a desktop with more than a kilowatt power supply? obviously anything that applies to tablets is 100% true for desktops as well

just like the metro UI is just as intuitive and easy to use on desktops with a mouse as it is with a touchscreen

sidran32

I believe the rationale is "most people prefer to just hit the power button", though on desktops, obviously it's not as popular. :P

allquixotic

btw, the "feature" of making shutdown insanely hard is actually something that Gnome did first... the timing is eerie; Gnome-shell made it inconvenient to shutdown mere months before the release preview of windows

and it recently added a lock screen not very dissimilar from Windows 8's

sidran32

18:14

Hah.

A lot of people didn't like the Unity shell when it first came out, anyway. I hear it got better.

r.tanner.f

@sidran32 Nope. Still sucks.

allquixotic

Unity is still terrible, by Linux standards. it's not so bad compared to Windows Explorer's "shell", but almost any other DE runs circles around it performance-wise, and it's still a mess functionally

sidran32

@r.tanner.f Aha. I've been able to play with it a little, but not enough to form an opinion.

r.tanner.f

@allquixotic Actually I'd rather use Modern UI than Unity. =\

Which makes me really sad.

allquixotic

@r.tanner.f my favorite desktop on Linux right now is Cinnamon. It uses, rather than conflicts with, Gnome 3's APIs. It consumes the entire Gnome 3 desktop seamlessly except that it switches out the actual gnome-shell component for a more traditional taskbar and start menu feel, not dissimilar from Windows Vista.

its compositor, Muffin, is a friendly fork of gnome-shell's mutter. and yes, both mutter and muffin run circles around unity's compiz

cinnamon.linuxmint.com

not to imply that I use LinuxMint. I don't. I use Fedora and install Cinnamon on it to replace gnome-shell.

r.tanner.f

18:23

I was wondering ;)

sidran32

18:33

@allquixotic You know, my preferences regarding Linux desktops have always been that I prefer something that can't be conflated with any Windows desktop. (Though I wouldn't mind a recreation of the Windows 3.1 desktop, personally).

When I use a different operating system, I want it to feel different. That's partially why I liked BeOS. :P

It's also why I'm not too much a fan of KDE. :P

allquixotic

18:47

@sidran32 I haven't had anyone visually mistake Cinnamon for Windows. The sizes and colors are too different.

The general layout of having a task bar on the bottom with system tray icons on the bottom right, quick launch shortcuts on the bottom left and the "start" menu on the very bottom left, however, is basically the same for Cinnamon as Vista.

But anyone with even a passing clue of the look and feel of Vista could tell within 5 seconds that it's not Windows

Then again, the first graphical user interfaces I ever used were Windows 3.1 through Windows XP. I never touched a Linux (or non-Windows, for that matter) desktop until well after Windows XP was released.

So I'm most familiar with the traditional layout of Windows, which was basically consistent from 95 through Vista.

I like the general UX paradigm of that era of Windows. I dislike the implementation of the operating system overall.

sidran32

@allquixotic I know, I didn't mean to imply that your preferences were somehow "wrong" or anything. I'm just saying, personally, while I like the UI paradigm that Windows uses and has used for years, I'm just kind of bored with it. That's partially why I love skinning programs. :)

I will note that I experienced the same kind of boredom with Windows 3.1's interface, when I was using it, until we got a new Windows 98 computer. But ironically now I kind of look back to it with a bit of nostalgic preference. :P

I'd love to see the Windows 3.1-style interface resurrected and updated. I think that'd be really cool.

The first time I ever saw a Linux desktop in person (running Red Hat way back in the day, in highschool), it struck me how similar it looked to Windows.

I suppose that you could kind of say I'm a hipster when it comes to operating systems. ;)

allquixotic

19:09

@sidran32 I get bored with the same old UI, too, which is why I like changing it up subtly like Cinnamon does. But a major departure that seriously inconveniences me, like Gnome-shell's UI patterns or Modern UI's UI patterns, is not something I find appealing.

Changing the look? Sure. Changing the feel? No thanks. Basically I am flexible with exactly half of the "L&F" changing at whim -- but not the other half. :P

sidran32

@allquixotic I love changing the look often. The feel, though, I kind of agree. But I like changing the feel if it's not inconvenient. :)

allquixotic

@sidran32 Have you ever used WindowBlinds?

sidran32

And inconvenient is entirely opinion :)

@allquixotic I'm using it right now. I use it quite often. :)

allquixotic

Oh, cool. Then we're on the same page as far as UI customization goes.

Even though I don't always run it, I have run it for long periods in the past.

sidran32

I'm one of those that finds it very hard to keep to the same UI settings for long periods of time :P

allquixotic

19:13

off-topic: wouldn't it be hilarious if the next dangerous hurricane to hit the east coast (probably next year) were named Ivy? Sandy and Ivy. Hah. Intel controlling the weather. :P

If the one after that is Haswell, I'm becoming a conspiracy theorist.

sidran32

You don't get the whole feel for my settings with this screenshot (as I have animations and stuff), but here's what it looks like right now...

allquixotic

Especially if Sandy is a Category 1, Ivy is a Category 2, and Haswell is a Category 3.

sidran32

allquixotic

@sidran32 ThinkPad wireless UI... looks like Windows 8 taskbar... and WindowBlinds to top it off! :)

sidran32

@allquixotic mmhm :P

I actually pay for expert WB themes :P

This one is my favorite so far. "Eros 7"

It's Windows 7

@allquixotic That'd be funny. But they have rules: switch off male/female name every other storm, and work up the alphabet.

Jared Tritsch

19:30

Hey look! I just passed 1k rep! awesome!

Luke

Congrats @JaredTritsch

sidran32

@JaredTritsch Grats!

Luke

So looking at some of the questions, especially about upgrades and such...

We are selling Windows 8 for $15 less then their Windows 7 counterparts... Lol

Jared Tritsch

haha yup

M$ is really serious about getting windows 8 adopted quickly

I already got my Lenovo Yoga ordered.

Luke

I got a special copy through work, I'm not overly excited about it

Jared Tritsch

19:36

<-- MSDN. lurve.

Luke

Jared Tritsch

I've steeped myself in windows 8 for months now and now i find it weird using windows 7 at work.

Luke

sidran32

I got Windows 8 Pro in the mail today. Purchased it for $25 after the discount and rebates that I accumulated for Best Buy. :P

Luke

I hate the Modern UI

I miss my start menu

Even though I realize it's just a full screen start menu

Jared Tritsch

19:38

The start screen fundtionality is EXACTLY THE SAME >.<

im actually working on a blog post about it.

sidran32

Luke

@sidran32 That's my new background now, lol

sidran32

:P

Luke

@JaredTritsch I understand that, but it's completely changed many things as well, that I feel I can only find cause I know where to look

For the average user, I don't think they'll like it or understand it like you or I would

Jared Tritsch

thus my impending blog post. but yeah, I see what you mean.

but i think the main reason poeple have problems with it is because it forces us to evolve past 20 years of computing routine and conditioning.

I mean hell, the start button is 18 years old now... time to move on.

Good heavens getting votes for teh contest is friggin hard. I'm answering every question I can and the most I can get is 6 >.<

and is it kind of shady that the only two people to make it to tier 4 so far are both moderators?

I mean, Journeyman I understand. hes a beast.

sidran32

19:53

@Luke I think, though, the perspective of someone who wouldn't know where to look probably would be just as clueless with Windows 7 as well. Operating systems are not actually terribly intuitive. They only seem that way to us because of familiarity and years of training ourselves on them. :P

I think it's hard for any of us to assume ease of use for someone who's devoid of the kind of experience we have, because we kind of more or less forgot what it was like to be in that position.

Kind of like how sometimes beginners are the best teachers. :P

r.tanner.f

Sweet mother of God. We're restarting the AS/400 tomorrow. I think I'm going to be sick Monday.

Luke

20:13

@sidran32 Can't argue there, but I still feel like I'm always right :P Lol

r.tanner.f

20:33

Wow is it just me or did a whole slew of new folk come in today?

Jared Tritsch

21:06

theres a lot of new people today. but, then again, there -WAS- a new windows that just released. that is to be expected.

at lest the BSOD is sorry about it.

r.tanner.f

@GrahamWager I won the race! xP

I think I'm done for today. Things are moving way too fast around here.

Graham Wager

@r.tanner.f Haha, congrats :)

r.tanner.f

1 min, 48 secs, 48 secs... it's madness

Graham Wager

LOL madness indeed!

Jared Tritsch

? what happened?

Graham Wager

21:18

I know the feeling that it's all a bit mad though, think I'm going to resort to sleep soon myself

Jared Tritsch

what was the race abnout?

Graham Wager

@JaredTritsch We just happened to answer a new question that popped up within seconds of each other lol

Jared Tritsch

ah okay.

wait a minute... I just got 3 more upvotes but earned no rep?

is there a rep cap?

Luke

200 rep per day

Minus association, minus accepted answer, minus bounty rep

Jared Tritsch

.... i got 232 today...

blast... and I'm only two votes form tier 3

from*

Graham Wager

21:23

votes still count towards tiers

Luke

I'm 3 votes from tier 2 :(

Graham Wager

even if you don't get the rep

Jared Tritsch

@luke ill bump you to tier 2 if you bump me to tier 3

Graham Wager

i'll bump you both if you bump me to tier 4 :P

lol

Jared Tritsch

I only need two of my 2-vote questions with w third.

@luke, you need to make another answer. I voted both so now youre one away.

Graham Wager

21:26

i'm 2 3-voters from tier 3 too :/ and just 7 3-voters from tier 4

Jared Tritsch

My problem will be getting that 15 vote one....

Search user:163760 [windows-8]

those are all mine

Graham Wager

I was lucky with the 15 voter to be honest

it even got closed for a period, but was reopened

Jared Tritsch

haha lucky bastard.

I would have mine too, but someone else posted almost exactly the same solution and we both got 6 votes.

Graham Wager

well you're one closer :)

Jared Tritsch

haha thanks.

I was hoping I could get both tier 2 and tier 3 today. looks ill be one vote short. :-P

maybe ill be back on once i get home from win8 lappy shopping.

Graham Wager

21:32

no reciprocation huh? I see how it is :P

Jared Tritsch

hang on man.

im at work, you know. gimme a minute

Graham Wager

haha, was only kiddin ;)

Jared Tritsch

I BEQUEATH THEE TIER 3!

once the server repopulates of course.

Graham Wager

nice :) i'm going on a little voting spree myself now

Jared Tritsch

:-D

make sure you hit up my answers!

Graham Wager

21:49

right, that's enough windows 8 for one day... now, where did I put that "How do I shutdown?" answer... ;)

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