If everyone could agree on a replacement, that would be one thing, but everyone has chosen their own pet replacement and it makes searching for documentation rather difficult, especially since "blacklist" can be used as a verb whereas "blocklist" is typically only a noun and only applied to IP addresses. It's case of "new standard to merge all standards" but now you just have another standard. The reality is that people still use blacklist and whitelist, and the inertia behind it is massive.
Finally, the move to change all instances of "black" is a highly Americentric idea and ignores the fact that "blacklist" and "whitelist" have nothing to do with black or white people. "Blacklist" comes from "black book", which was a literal book bound in black leather. The same thing is true with master/slave, where Americentrists assume that every mention of slavery as a concept is referencing American and European race-oriented chattel slavery.
The issue of increased technical debt by changing these words isn't hypothetical either. Millions of Linux systems were recently made vulnerable because a change to the word "slave" prevented an important security backport from applying. And it gets worse given that many initiatives that huge companies have signed up for are now also trying to get rid of the term "abort" and "motherboard". And no, that's not a joke or a parody. Same with "a hung computer".
funny btw, we changed the wording of four stages in a research report recently (not rewording something controversial, just choosing words that suit the stages better), and I literally had to go through the document to check for instances because the colleague that pushed this hadn't done so :x
tbh, I don't mind having to put in a little more effort if that makes the long term result better, but I do get the impression that now everything is measured along that same good/bad axis, even if it historically has nothing to do with the issue at hand
and I can imagine there is perception and you'd like to change something because it might hurt some people, but there's a huge risk that because this is not perceived as such by the rest of the population, that you alienate those and hamper efforts that might bring actual change
like how with #MeToo we've had the first batch of absolute monsters, then we've had (for lack of a better word) the less horrible but still wrong cases, and now we're with the johnnies and ambers of this world where it's not quite clear where the onus lies just yet, however one party has already effectively been (and no pun intended, but) blacklisted... Which negatively reflects back on the (important) #MeToo discussion itself
@forest the nice / horrible thing about the english language is that it's so malleable; blacklist can be used as a verb because (it looks to me) like a verbed noun; same thing with blocklist
heck, it's one letter different! hits the ear mostly fine, just takes some getting used to
"blocklist that word", "blocklist that kernel module" all work just fine
Apart from recent references in a certain Marvel movie and a vaguely documented experiment with traffic lights somewhere in China in the ~1950s, I can't think of any place or topic of significance where green and red are reversed in their meaning :)
But yeah, it is changing colours with colours, and what would help more if we can deracialise those terms instead of trying to replace any instance of black and white (I mean, at some point even chess board might be looked at funny as white always has the first move)
@MiG I mean, if people are discussing in good faith, that's good, we'll get some progress
sometimes the technical origin doesn't really matter, what matters are the effects it has
like the -man words (eg 'chairman'); it doesn't matter if 'man' was originally a gender-neutral suffix meaning person (werman, wifman; and also an adult male), if it codifies entrenched gender inequality today, it's problematic
I don't have the studies on hand to say if it does- it's easy to argue from 'common sense' that it obviously does or obviously doesn't have an effect, defending on your viewpoint
@Burgi I'm not making a case for that particular colour combination, just commenting that apart from colour blind issues, the meaning of them is less ambiguous than probably assumed
colourblindness is another complex issue, there's a great many varieties and intensities iirc
@Burgi iristech.co/statistics - this is a commercial enterprise that doesn't cite any sources, but the 'isolated communities' (and therefore a limited gene pool) argument seems to make sense
The hypothetical language family has long been rejected by most comparative linguists, although it continues to be supported by a small but stable scholarly minority.
I don't speak any of the languages discussed so I can't comment if that is the case or not, but the literature suggests that the theory doesn't get much support from the experts
however the US didn't seem to have those tactile paving stones that we have at crossing and pavement edges
in the UK our medicine has to have braille on the boxes, even off-the-shelf stuff but we didn't find any on the OTS medicine in the drugstore we visited
UK banknotes (apart from the £5) have tactile markers on the left at the top to help identify the notes
@Burgi prob because they're the most valuable, so if a blind person gets scammed they'd lose the most money there - but I agree, should be on all of them
@Burgi I think the 500 might actually be drawn from rotation completely, the 200 just isn't accepted in most shops
@Burgi agreed
@JourneymanGeek that's a pretty well made video on the subject, thanks :)
his chan description is not very helpful... "Hi, I'm Tom Scott. These are some of the things I've made and done. They'll probably come back to haunt me in a few years' time."
we rent both our places, and they're both relatively new so all it took was lubricating of hinges, removing crap from previous tenants, fixing a few things they broke that I don't want to wait for the owner to get off their asses on and adding hooks for picture frames and whatnot
@CanadianLuke so did we with gf's place, right before a severe lockdown hit and closed all the shops... pretty difficult coming from a furnished apartment and having to buy everything new :/
@CanadianLuke heh, I figured you could at least see IPs with modding tools :)
I'm on ONE IRC server, but not as a regular... It's through a VPN, then a TLS connection for the IRC part. Otherwise, I like using Discord and Slack (Slack in particular cause I'm learning about webhooks and custom messages from other actions)
Astaroth and Malphas are unaffected, but Valefar (the Surface Pro 7) and Leraje (the HP OMEN 16) are having problems. The three DISM commands listed in the article do fix it; however, you do need to add /all to the second and third lines.
