pings me just to piss me off

who is on windows firefox and wants to check if a keyboard shortcut works or not?

me

yes

@HackToHell: who did?

ctrl-pagedown to move tab to the end

@JourneymanGeek u!

it goes to the next tab for me

@jokerdino Every time I press it, it cycles to the tab to the right

oh?

ctrl-shift-PD?

does not work

does nothing

:/

it does something here; it makes my font size so that an "@" character is about 1 pixel wide by 1 pixel high

was able to fix it though using the menus

@allquixotic whut?

I'm applying for a job

> If you are interested, send your CV, a "why i am the best for the job"-letter and your rates

whoo!

What does "rates" mean here?

hourly rate

job salary rate

Or that.

Basically, what you're expecting to be paid

They already have a fixed rate

o.0

Like, it says, x € per hour

Ah I'll just leave that out then

superuser.com/questions/452298/… @allquixotic @HackToHell @JourneymanGeek

@slhck they are asking what you are looking for as a salary

@jokerdino You mean in terms of how many hours I want to work (given they already noted the hourly rate)?

@jokerdino You could install that extension

@HackToHell the shortcut didn't work, did it?

@slhck i understand rate as the money you want to be paid per hourly work or similar

yep it didn't work

so, i think they are looking for what you are expecting..

i might be mistaken

@jokerdino No, sounds reasonable, except for the fact that they already put the fixed rate into the job ad :P

well, they can be pretty dumb.

or a bit too vague.

Who knows?

@slhck Fun with copy&paste

Quick question: are moderators caring about the Deposit user, when I flag about it? Or just deleting the user, or only his posts without merging? Because my recent "deposit" flags are all leaving an existing user, after being treated

@DanielBeck Probably. Let's see.

@Gnoupi most are deleted apparently.

@Gnoupi It really depends. I heard about that the Deposit user shouldn't actually be used, at least from SO/network side. If I don't merge into deposit I'll simply destroy the user.

@jokerdino Would be better to merge them, though

@Gnoupi IIRC merging has been discouraged in such cases. When I handle the flag, the first post is free (i.e. no account destruction)

@slhck What the official word about it, then?

@DanielBeck You don't destroy them right away? Why not?

@Gnoupi I have seen a couple of the users getting deleted.

@Gnoupi For some reason it's not encouraged, don't know why.

I personally like it.

Deleting removes all information about them. You can't cross reference anything after

@slhck See other room.

If they don't want moderators to use it, then they should come up with a "delete spammer" button, which is actually gathering information about what the user posted, which ip, etc.

@Gnoupi I can see the benefits from the mod perspective.

I probably think SE doesn't want the owner of the main spam account to get data?

there is no owner

no one can log in

ah, you guys nuked the login.

@slhck mind if I use your answer as a reference?

@Gnoupi Which answer?

@slhck That linked chat message.

hmm something new

@HackToHell Facebook boo

@slhck about the deposit user

@jokerdino fb has turned into a new aggregator for me, much like reddit

@HackToHell i dislike FB

@HackToHell Yep, I can watch them all over again, unlike crap these days that you regret watching and forget.

@Gnoupi There must be an official message somewhere about that, don't quote me on it.

@slhck I can't find anything about it. Maybe it was in the teacher's lounge

IIRC every mod does it a little differently, but let's say that registered users are never destroyed.

@Gnoupi Probably.

@jokerdino Then watch this:

@slhck thanks, going to read that

@sparkubullet thanks

A bunch of pedants started nitpicking at an answer of mine that had +11 and answered the question. So I deleted my answer. Poo on them for downvoting me and picking things apart. Pedants make the community overall lose out. The accepted answer is much less in depth and, as a result of being so simplified, doesn't say anything "wrong". Whatever.

Now, on the other hand, pedants who make copy-edits are beneficial.

@allquixotic whut?

@allquixotic You shouldn't be forced to delete anything.

@slhck Ok, so in short "we have the tools to deal with spam, but moderators are not going to have access to it". Apparently the role of the moderator is not to deal with spam, and let the big boys do that.

So I guess I won't bother anymore myself

I'll just click the "it is spam" flag reason

and be done with it

if mods aren't big boys, something is wrong

No one forced me. I deleted it of my own volition. I got tired of the arguments that my answer created in the answer-comments due to tiny details that had nothing to do with the actual topic of the question.

@Gnoupi Probably for the best ...

I probably should have asked them to copy-edit it (suggest a revision or make one straight away if high enough rep) rather than deleting it, but they were getting hostile, so I figured it was for the best.

@slhck I guess things changed with the expansion of the SE network. Before, you had but a handful of moderators on SO, SU, SF. They were by the way also moderators on Meta.SO. But with all the Area 51 sites, there started the need for "local moderators", and you had suddenly a bunch of more or less clueless guys receiving moderator access.

I guess it makes sense, in the current context, that moderators are not given all the tools they should. wouldn't want the kids to burn the house

Jeez.

shrug

i am going off for the night

So now we need super-moderators to separate the mods from the real mods? And then super-duper-mods to separate the super mods from the real real mods? And then super-duper-pooper mods to... okay, yeah, next thing you know you'll have to have 30k rep and mod status to post an answer

Any guys here who can edit wikipedia like a pro ?

@HackToHell, that sounds like a meta-question. What's your real question?

Edit this darn thing en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

Someone messed up

Umm, eww? That table looks totally hosed. I see what you mean.

You might be able to grok the proper structure by looking at past revisions of the page and find the revision that broke it.

That's how I'd do it. I'm not a wiki-ese expert but I could probably figure it out by looking at diffs between revisions.

Unless it's been broken since the beginning

Guess I'll just stop bothering, and click that "spam" button when I see one. After all, why do I care. It's not like if I was a moderator. I'll just bother with my 6k reputation worries.

it's broken from three edits down, i tried editing it, but I seem to only mess it up further

I'm so disappointed at the vending machine... it made me buy two snickers bars to get one because the first one got stuck. Now instead of existing for 48 hours to burn off a snickers bar I'll have to exist for 96 hours to burn off two

Is there a way to make a chat room that's "linked" to a question? Like that link that comes up when you've been talking too long in comments and it asks if you want to move to chat. I'd like to force that without going through a lot of comments first...

@r.tanner.f No, only way is through the auto-generated link

hmm, ok

howdy folks.

Yo

good bye folks :P

have a good day - will be off all day

See ya. Enjoy!

Slow day in chat... everyone having a busy Friday?

too busy

I'm hating this day and it's not even over... /me mumbles about so-called "experts" crapping out a terrible, terrible document that is technically inaccurate, lacks references, and contains spelling mistakes so vulgar I can't even type them here without getting banned

and then making changes every 2 hours and expecting us to "integrate" them

You just have to love the function names Apple uses in their frameworks: NSPersistentUIManager writeWindowSnapshot:length:width:height:bytesPerRow:toFile:inDirectory:encryptin‌​gWithKey:uuid:checksum:isUserWaitingImpatientlyForThisThingToFinish:

And by "love" I mean ridicule...

lol, isUserWaitingImpatientlyForThisThingToFinish.... implementation... return true;

@allquixotic These are all basically a named argument/function signature hybrid. So in essence, every caller with just hard-code ..... isUserWaitingImpatientlyForThisThingToFinish:YES

I don't know Objective C, so that's pretty confusing to me. Colons being equivalent to some kind of one-off code block or something... I don't even.... what is going on... no, I know Java, C++, C, Ruby, Python (sukoshi), Vala, C#, VB.NET, VBScript and OCaml. I think that's enough.

I've seen some pretty horrendous Objective code that makes me want to use shred. Horrendous C code makes me want to use unlink, which is tame by comparison

@allquixotic They just make argument names part of the method signature. It's quite trivial to map e.g. to Ruby, see here in the section Implement the Timer.

Sounds like named parameters.

Except that the order is static.

And all of them are required.

So named parameters minus all of their advantages.

(Except self-documenting code, maybe)

I just don't like Objective-C, even if it's being used in a free software context and compatible with gcc and can be compiled on Linux (very little Obj-C out there actually meets those specifications, btw). Although "Objective-C++" takes the cake, imo. Not sure if Apple supports that, but GNU does.

And by "takes the cake" I mean "wouldn't touch it with a c foot pole"

What is the use of insert mode in Vimium (Google Chrome extension)?

@Santosh Wow Vimium is actually really cool...

@Santosh Looks like it stops Vimium from grabbing any commands until you push escape. Could be useful if a webpage isn't playing nice with it and they're both trying to capture the input.

do you know if there's a way to force it to grab input? I just switched tabs over here by accident and put "K" in the chat box a dozen times xD

@r.tanner.f, I don't know what you mean, but generally no, it's a PITA

but editing an 89 page document over a dozen times in a single day and constantly integrating changes and fighting with MS Word is less preferable an activity than editing an answer on SU