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soandos

@SuperUser who gets this ping?

Can't believe that Super User does not even have a SU profile...

Journeyman Geek

Its a bot

I don't seem to think it needs one ;p

soandos

@JourneymanGeek I know its a bot, but still, there are so many users named super user on SU, just make one more for this. Or use community. sigh its a good sign that this is the largest thing bothering me now

Journeyman Geek

lol

AU calls theirs The Interrupter

soandos

Random should have named ours

nhinkle

02:07

Chat bots aren't users.

Gareth

Well, I for one support marriage between two bots if that is what they so desire

nhinkle

It's Gareth!

Where in the world are you today?

Gareth

Still Beijing (so much rain today)

Probably the US by the end of the month

nhinkle

Cool. Where in the US are you headed?

Gareth

Seattle

So still lots of rain ;)

nhinkle

02:13

Oooh! I'm not that far away from Seattle. If you ever head down to Oregon, let me know!

I've got to go. Hope to catch up with you soon @Gareth

Gareth

@nhinkle Yeah sure, see you. Will probably be in Portland a fair bit

Journeyman Geek

@Gareth: OMGLITTLEROBOTBABIES

Gareth

haha

Journeyman Geek

hmm

wonders if there's a superuser birthday contest this year

iglvzx

02:32

@JourneymanGeek What is a SU bday contest about?

Journeyman Geek

@iglvzx: this was last year's blog.superuser.com/2011/08/19/…

iglvzx

@JourneymanGeek Cool

Journeyman Geek

XD. If its about the same period as last year there's a good chance i'll be in india while it happens ;p

Journeyman Geek

02:50

Oh, today is a good day, not had to flag ONE late answer.

ekaj

03:02

So a 32GB mSata that comes with a Dell Laptop should show up as a 32GB drive in My Computer... right?

iglvzx

@ekaj I just realized what your name means. It's "jake" backward, isn't it?

ekaj

yup =p

iglvzx

lol

Journeyman Geek

yup

unless its set up as a cache drive

Smart Response Technology

In computing, Smart Response Technology (SRT) (pre-launch name SSD Caching) is a proprietary caching mechanism introduced in 2011 by Intel for their Z68 chipset (for the Sandy Bridge–series processors), which allows a SATA solid-state drive (SSD) to function as cache for a (conventional, magnetic) hard disk drive. SRT is managed by Intel Rapid Storage Technology software version 10.5 or later, and implemented in its device driver and the Z68 motherboard's firmware (option ROM). It is available only when the (integrated) disk controller is configured in RAID mode (but not AHCI or IDE ...

ekaj

Dells customer service / in general has been making me mad lately. I ordered a laptop on a Saturday, and they immediately took 2100 out of my account. BUT it was the wrong laptop. So I tried to call, but I couldn't get ahold of anyone because that department was closed on the weekend (school discount deal thing)..

so I called Monday. And they cancelled my order. Then I got the laptop in the mail on like.. Wednesday, and now I have to mail it back, and I'm supposed to get my other laptop tomorrow.

Journeyman Geek

03:07

ouch

Bob

@ekaj At least that was fast

ekaj

Anyways, the laptop they DID send me only had an 8GB ssd.. and I ordered a 32gb drive. I'm hoping they don't screw up this next computer.

Bob

Bit weird though

@ekaj o.O

ekaj

I admit, ordering the wrong laptop the first time was my mistake.. but the wrong order even had the wrong stuff in it, if that makes sense.

and @JourneymanGeek thanks for that link

Journeyman Geek

Blah, i should write something on chrome remote at some point ;p

ekaj

03:31

Why would this processor ( ark.intel.com/products/67356 ) retail at 378 if it's only 2.1GHz and 4 cores? I've been looking around but I can't seem to find the answer. Yes, it has 4 cores, but so do a few like $250 processors.. and they're faster than 2.3GHz (3.1 max)

Journeyman Geek

03:42

hmm

/me has no idea

laptop processor pricing is something i never had to futz around with

ekaj

I have no idea either, unless the jump from 32 to 22 nm is the main difference.

That was Dell's "best processor" when I went to piece my comp together - their customization options suck now.

Journeyman Geek

not very likely

ekaj

The place I was looking that was the only 3rd gen i7

If I wanted a 3rd gen i7 with a 15"-16" screen (XPS laptop) that's the only suggestion I got

Paul

04:00

Oh lookee we broke the 3K barrier for LQ!

studiohack

This is super cool - Windows Phone can interpret sign language!

ekaj

deaf person with a smart phone? cool

studiohack

@ekaj are you kidding?

deaf people use smartphones because they text email so much

ekaj

yeah, I know =p I meant the interpretation of the sign language part

studiohack

I'd kill for that.

and so would many people I know.

soandos

04:11

@studiohack you sign?

studiohack

@soandos a bit. I'm profoundly deaf. like 90% plus

soandos

didn't know, sorry. I know a bunch of people that sign, but aren't deaf

studiohack

@soandos why are you apologizing?

soandos

@studiohack, kinda surprised I didn't know

studiohack

@soandos you shouldn't be. I'm very private online :)

and no worries, how would you know? and signing is awesome, do you know some?

soandos

04:13

very little

have a few friends with epilepsy that sign though

Paul

@soandos How come?

soandos

@Paul for some reason we get along ;)

no idea though, delayed speech or something, not really sure

Paul

@soandos :) I meant why to they sign, is the epilepsy impacting their speech somehow.

ekaj

I'd like to learn how to sign some time..

soandos

They speak normally now, but I don't think that was always the case

Paul

04:15

Yeah me too

soandos

I learnt the sign alphabet same way I learnt the phonetic alphabet

just takes a few minutes

studiohack

yeah, practice fingerspelling in the checkout line, spell whatever words you see, you'll be super fast in no time

good place to start @Paul, @ekaj, @soandos

ekaj

The paperclip popped up when I said I'd like to learn how to sign...

soandos

@studiohack, ill start :)

Paul

@studiohack Isn't that just a small part of signing though?

soandos

04:17

@ekaj meet clippy

ekaj

I hated him from office. =p

studiohack

@Paul yes, but it's a start :) there are some really cool online dictionaries and places to learn

AWESOME and FREE: lifeprint.com

Paul

@studiohack I imagine there is an app for that

ekaj

@studiohack I'll try that some time - I'm trying to associate most things I see recently with Spanish words, if I can remember the correct ones

studiohack

100 First Signs: lifeprint.com/asl101/pages-layout/concepts.htm

@Paul lol

Paul

04:18

@studiohack How widely used is ASL vs BSL or the other SLs - do they have commonalities?

studiohack

some

soandos

@Paul I would imagine it depends where...

studiohack

I sign ASL but there are some small dialects

soandos

@studiohack I think there was a study on accents for signing

studiohack

@soandos COOL!

New Mexico School for the Deaf offers an Immersion Week - you hearing people wear earplugs and learn sign from authentic deaf teachers

nmsd.k12.nm.us/outreach/summerprog.php

(scroll down a bit)

soandos

04:22

reminds me of a joke:

mime radio: all mime, all the time

Paul

@studiohack Looks like BSL and ASL are mutually unintelligable

soandos

opisthenar, I now know your name

Paul

Looks like there is an "Auslan" too - Australian Sign Languge, but based on BSL

soandos

@Paul, in antro, I learnt about one with no known roots in israel

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Sayyid_Bedouin_Sign_Language anthropological case study

Paul

@soandos Wikipedia says there is mention by plato of deaf groups using sign language

soandos

04:33

Not sure it was a full language though

Journeyman Geek

04:47

reads up

@studiohack In that aspect, they arn't all that different from everyone else ;p

Sathya

05:25

@WilliamHilsum tbh no, I just got the ones I needed

CMC

hello

anybody here know virtualbox networking?

Sathya

@CMC what about it

CMC

I'm trying to setup Bridged Networking

uh

why is there a clippy?

anyway

I have a Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop x64 Guest

and a Windows 7 x64 Host

Sathya

@CMC heh, it's an easter egg.

2

CMC

huh

I can get the basic functionality of the Bridged Networking working

but I don't have an internet connection

to elaborate,

if I ping google.com, it resolves and pings correctly

but if I try to telnet google.com 80

it times out

Paul

05:42

@CMC If you are using bridged, the ip addresses of guest and host should be in the same subnet, and both should have the same default gateway. Is that the case?

CMC

The host's Subnet is 255.255.255.0 and the Default Gateway is 192.168.1.1 (the router)

The guest's Subnet is the same

I'm not finding the guest's gateway

ah

it's the same as well, so yes, @Paul it's the same

Paul

@CMC is this virtualbox

CMC

What do you mean by that?

Paul

@CMC "guest" usually refers to a virtual machine, so I was asking if you were using virtualbox to host the virtual machine

CMC

yes

that's why I started with "anybody here know virtualbox networking?"

Paul

05:51

Yeah I didn't see that comment. Ok, just eliminating the basics - if you ping the ubuntu box from windows, then do arp -a you'll see the mac address that Windows thinks ubuntu has. Can you confirm it is different to the Windows mac ipconfig /all and the same as what Ubuntu thinks its own mac is ifconfig

CMC

06:03

So in arp -a do I look for what the ip address of the guest is?

Paul

@CMC yeah

CMC

and then HWaddr from ifconfig?

Paul

Yeah - they should match

CMC

if so, then yes, they are identical.

Paul

Cool, and they are different to ipconfig /all on Windows?

@CMC So my best guess would be that the Windows firewall (or a third party firewall) is seeing traffic pass across the Windows nic that doesn't have a source or destination IP that belongs to the Windows box, and blocking the traffic

CMC

06:13

The guest's mac address differs from all other networked devices I can see

I tried running Wireshark

to see what packets actually get out of the guest

If I try to telnet to, say, my host

I can see the TCP packet

But if I try telnet google.com 80, nothing shows up in Wireshark

I've run the test enough times in Wireshark to know that I'm not making a typo in the filter

Paul

@CMC Like it doesn't get out of the host. I would still eliminate any firewalls on Windows as a cause

Do you happen to have tcpdump install in the guest?

Clippy

Super User Blog: Keyboard Capers–A Field Guide to Keyboards

journeymangeek on August 01, 2012

Most of us don’t give our keyboards (or mice, I suppose) a second thought. Most of my keyboards tended to be budget logitechs, which while decent lack a certain something.

I preferred the ThinkPad keyboards on my laptops, but when I need to, and tend to write at a single sitting, essays that are a few thousand words long, I needed something better.

If you want a shorter version of this whole blog post,I’d advice that you look at the layout(ergonomic vs standard, and number of keys), the switch type ( membrane/scissor vs mechanical (switch or buckling spring) and Key style (full sized concave, low profile or flat). …

CMC

hmmm

looks like it

but I don't know how to use it

Bob

@Clippy @JourneymanGeek Nice post.

There's a broken image link (the one to archive.org)... and there's a little typo just above that :P

Perhaps rehost all images on stack.imgur.com?

buckling spring image broken too

annd the last word(s) is/are cut off :P

otherwise, a very informative blog post! :D

Journeyman Geek

06:31

lol

I need to see about that

Paul

@CMC Did I miss an answer about the firewall on Windows?

CMC

@Paul Sorry, I'm multitasking a bunch

I'm trying to figure out how to temporarily disable the firewall on Avast

CMC

07:01

Alright, figured it out. And that was the problem...I'll have to figure out how to unblock it.

Paul

@CMC Cool

@Clippy Why do you have a pingable name Clippy?

Oh

I see

Bob

lol

Paul

Clippy wrote @JourneymanGeek's blog entry for him

Bob

xD

Journeyman Geek

I got a good chunk of the errors fixed

but the video is still out

will need to consult smarter people on this ;p

This is rather embarassing

Bob

07:05

...wha?

Clippy is user # -42

Blog Bot is -41

The Interrupter from AU is -40...

There's a Dice Service bot?!

Oh, it's for a RPG chatroom

hm... how does this bot numbering system work?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: fixed the images on my local copy. Might just drop the video of typing if that is what's causing the problems ><

takes a few minions out back and shoots em.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek There's a video? o.O

Journeyman Geek

lol yes!

It got cut off

Bob

I see a gif that isn't displaying

Oh, video at the end?

Journeyman Geek

Lucky for me my NEXT planned blog post(s) are all original content, and should be easier to work with than this.

Ya, i think i got that fixed

Bob

07:10

lol

good job

hm

the layout images look very familiar

Journeyman Geek

wikipedia

Bob

ah

Journeyman Geek

they should have attribution if i didn't fuck that up too

Bob

must've searched them at some point

source is missing for the layout images

Journeyman Geek

I'll add that in

At one point the entire post was invisible

Bob

07:11

o.O

Also, the vertical keyboard

Source</spane3E

oddly enough, the actual HTML is <span style="font-size: xx-small;">Source</spane3E</span>

Journeyman Geek

redid all that

Bob

And Microsoft natural keyboard Pro source

Journeyman Geek

XD

WILL FIX

Bob

source is highlighted as a link, but my cursor stays in the caret/select text mode when hovering (it's unclickable)

Journeyman Geek

er

Bob

07:14

it's in a <a> tag (not <a href="http://....">)

you need new minions :P

Journeyman Geek

This is what i'm looking at now dl.dropbox.com/u/1111219/test.html

I don't see that error anywhere on my copies of it ;p

which is SLIGHTLY miffing, since there's multiple possible sources of errors ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That seems fine

> significantly faster, and with Less strain.

random capitalisation just bugs me for some reason :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

AAAH SPELLING ERRORS

This, unfortunately is entirely my fault.

slhck

07:31

@JourneymanGeek Broken image link in your blog post :P

Journeyman Geek

@slhck: lots of broken things in the blog post.

^ The thing above is what you should be seeing. There were some issues probably caused by me wierd workflow - future blog stuff should work better when i actually know what the hell I am doing ><

slhck

haha, it's not too bad

Journeyman Geek

Lessons learnt. Don't copy paste crap from word to live writer and expect it to work. It will eat your children and cause you extenticial dispair.

Bob

well, at least you didn't save as HTML from Word (shudder)

slhck

lol

Journeyman Geek

07:34

naw

and in future most of my posts will be entirely in WLL, and such, so it should be less of a pain in the tail.

slhck

I prefer to write them in Markdown and then convert to HTML, then paste into Wordpress

Journeyman Geek

... wait. I can work directly in WP can't I?

headesks

That might be an option as well ;p

slhck

haha.. uhmm. yeah you can

but warn you, the normal editor is crap

Journeyman Geek

lol

Which is probably WLL was suggested to me... ;p

slhck

and conversion from HTML also has its issues

Journeyman Geek

07:40

Honestly I'm entirely clueless about most of this at the moment ;p

(gimme a damned stack exchange markdown based blog system plz!)

slhck

It's about time, yeah. 6 to 8 months is almost over :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

The next thing i want to do should be fun - documenting a computer build ;p

slhck

@JourneymanGeek Building right now?

Journeyman Geek

@slhck: end august ;p

slhck

nice!

Journeyman Geek

07:50

Its a pain in the rear building a system on 300 dollars of spending money ;p

slhck

Haha.. aww. Never gotten into the excitement of building something myself.

Except for plugging a CPU, HDD and memory into a barebone, if that counts.

Journeyman Geek

Close enough, thats the basics ;p

slhck

And I even managed to improperly apply thermal paste there

Journeyman Geek

pretty much thats what the entry will cover, since i can't afford a video card yet ;p

slhck

Plus, the fan didn't really stick well on the CPU, so the PC shut down after a minute again

Journeyman Geek

07:53

oh, going stock cooling, intel pre-applices paste

slhck

That was an AMD back then

Journeyman Geek

Was thinking of watercooling, but that might be a future upgrade

slhck

Never understood the whole water cooling thing

But I have a Mac, so what would I know :P

Journeyman Geek

In my case, the place i live in is dusty, and it would be easier to clean ;p

slhck

Trudat

Journeyman Geek

07:55

(since i can easily remove the radiator assembly, more than i can remove the HS for cleaning)

but as things are, its not a priority - I think the video card and SSD should come first ;p

and then its a toss up between that and upgrading my monitor ;p

slhck

SSD ftw

At least that's from my personal experience

Boris_yo

Oy halloey! @slhck @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

@slhck: oh, its definately on my want list

slhck

Halloumi @Boris_yo? :)

Boris_yo

Journeyman Geek

07:59

(lets see, nice case, wait 4 months, mobo/proc/videocard, wait 2 months video card + some buffer, then SSD... so i'm building my system over 6 months ;p)

Boris_yo

@slhck Saw my pics?

Only 10 this week as limit.

slhck

Huh?

Oh, wasn't on chat this much in the last few days

Boris_yo

I ma talking this:

http://500px.com/Boris_yo

@slhck You gotta agree that introduction looked like it was phishing email from spammer?

slhck

Haha, no, it wasn't too bad :)

Boris_yo

@slhck So how's been going for you? We have SSDs raised in prices again... So i'm waiting for a good moment. Thought RAM is everything... Wrong.

Need SSD like LSD because in important and urgent situations when I must open my laptop and check something fast, I get BOTTLENECK with 8GB of RAM even!

slhck

08:03

lol

Boris_yo

Is there SU section where I can find experts on Facebook? I need to know how to check whether specific person unfriended me "silently".

slhck

I'd say Web Applications

But I don't think there's any way you can tell for sure

Boris_yo

So if friend unfriends me he just disappears from my "Friends List"?

slhck

exactly

slhck

08:56

heh.. see the first comment

how right he was

Bob

@slhck Eh, it's SE. I'm continually amazed by the rankings on Google.

slhck

@Bob And I'm really glad they are ranked so high.

But I'll keep this post as a reference whenever someone posts "Google it" as an answer :P

Sathya

github.com/sebnitu/epiceditor-for-wordpress ( cc @JourneymanGeek @slhck)

slhck

@Sathya nice!

jokerdino

@Sathya \o/

slhck

09:03

woah, my markdown editor has 37 watching already

woohoo

jokerdino

needs to follow that one now.

Sathya

@slhck link?

slhck

@Sathya github.com/slhck/online-markdown-editor

jokerdino

Done.

Sathya

@slhck nice

jokerdino

09:05

@Sathya that is for wordpress.org isn't it?

i want one for the wordpress.com blog :(

Sathya

@jokerdino yes, all plugins are for wp.org

jokerdino

eek

Boris_yo

09:19

Hehehe

imgur.com/gallery/VAJQE

slhck

09:36

Ugh.. some bastards stole the emblem from my car.

Bob

wtf

Sathya

@slhck wow

slhck

I mean, it's not like I drive a Mercedes or Jaguar >_>

HaydnWVN

09:55

@slhck VW Polo?

slhck

@HaydnWVN Nope, a Skoda Octavia

jokerdino

Hmm, I would be glad I still have the car.

slhck

I don't know if the brand is too common outside middle Europe :P

HaydnWVN

@slhck Damn, same rear wiper as a polo lol

jokerdino

superuser.com/suggested-edits/13720 Hmm

HaydnWVN

09:56

You get them in the UK, good car, but gimmie my Audi any day ;)

slhck

@HaydnWVN They belong to the VW group so same spare parts etc

jokerdino

Are we misunderstanding what is a too minor edit?

slhck

@jokerdino Consensus seems to be that you should make edits really substantial before you get to 2k. After that: Do whatever you want, like in this rejected edit.

I would have approved it though, tbh

HaydnWVN

Quite petty, but annoying to reject it :'(

jokerdino

I would have rejected it as too minor if I didn't fix all other issues. But in this post, there are nothing much to fix though.

Sathya

09:58

@slhck seen few Skodas here in India

slhck

@jokerdino The post is crap anyway, doesn't solve the problem

jokerdino

well then remove it.

ok it has been removed

Sathya

@jokerdino that's a bit harsh

slhck

@Sathya Really? Haha, I thought VW, Audi, BMW and Mercedes were the only European cars that are sold pretty much everywhere.

jokerdino

I have seen / heard Skoda as well.

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