@TomWijsman That's a big basement you have there.

@Bob the internet doesn't weigh anything

@nhinkle If you're talking about all the data available, though, the storage requirements would be immense

It's wireless, duh!

@KronoS Nice. I sarcastically put down "Super User - Top 100" on one of my job applications as an achievement. I'd like to think it helped.

:P

@iglvzx, not long til you get to top 50 :)

@iglvzx it really depends on who you're talking to, but if they are programmers at all, they've heard of Stack Overflow. and if you get an invitation to SO.Careers, there's a lot of job openings there to apply for.

@soandos Look who's talking, Mr. #50 ;)

@iglvzx, you though that number is a coincidence ;)

SO careers is a legitimate thing

Every time I do a lot of reviewing, my standing suffers though

@soandos Downvoting posts?

@iglvzx @soandos I'm number one in the god/super hero department... that's all that matters

@iglvzx, not so much. Its more that I am not answering posts, and other people are

@nhinkle I got my invite last month... Was SUPER excited.

@KronoS if you wanted one you should've asked!

existing users can give out invites

i believe it was ivo who got me in

@KronoS, What do you need to get one (I got one when it was rolled out for some reason)

@nhinkle <strike>Ahem. Nudge nudge.</strike> Please

@soandos You have to have enough rep/standing in something...

@nhinkle I didn't know that!!! oh well I'm in now

@KronoS, I have a mere 1k on SO

@soandos I have less than that

@KronoS, ah. Don't really go on SO anymore

Got that rep in about a month, the found SU :)

@soandos I... stayed away from SO... It's a daunting site for new programmers

@KronoS, its how I learnt C# actually :)

Cool

but now that I kinda know a little more, I can hold my own

I would do a small project, then read question relating to it

aww. apparently i haven't earned any invitations yet actually

darn

@nhinkle It's okay.

:)

we should migrate @soandos ^^

@KronoS, going (not sure how to move the messages)

@nhinkle can you migrate convo above?

@KronoS sure. starting from where?

→ 21 messages moved to Fake Programmers

thanks @nhinkle

This is a very cool article about the touch keyboard in Windows 8: blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/07/17/…

@nhinkle Nice!

I don't suppose anyone here can buy games in USD on Steam? :/ Something expires in 15 minutes and I want to grab it quick!

I'm not too happy about the tab key, though

@WilliamHilsum I have the ability to...

@WilliamHilsum !!!! How ya been! did you get the steam thing figured out?

@nhinkle Any chance you can quickly buy and gift these: store.steampowered.com/app/105450 and (the collection) store.steampowered.com/app/57900 from here? ... $10 + $10 and I'll transfer $20 to you via paypal? ... Sorry, can't remember if I have done this before with you :/

@Wil if I can remember my Steam password I'll try. How much time do I have?

@WilliamHilsum I find a VPN handy for getting around steam region based price bumps. I sometimes instance an Amazon vm just for this purpose (ssh)

Actually... don't get the collection... just get the standard Duke @ $4.99

@nhinkle ehh, 7 minutes

@KronoS well, hopefully now... Sathya has been doing a hell of a lot for me, but, I don't want to keep bothering him

@Paul nice! How much is the cheapest VM?

@WilliamHilsum I'm trying

If you haven't signed up to AWS before then you can get a microinstance for free for a year

Otherwise, you pay for storage, cpu and i/o. Cpu and i/o only happen when it is running, so practically zero for my purposes, and storage for the VM costs me about $3 per month

whoo finally got in

gah. verifyting email now

@WilliamHilsum I actually bought Max Payne in the UK with this method, at about half the local price, which effectively paid for the VM for a year

I like the sound of free! TBH, I only save between £50p-£1, sometimes £2/£3, but, I have been buying so much, it mounts up to £100+... (I keep a record of what I have bought)... and, in return, I am happy to help others who help me! (www.steamprices.com) shows region! If it is like 10p difference, unless I am getting other stuff, I just buy myself... but, there are some things where Steam has 20USD/20Euro/20GBP... so, it just makes sense to get an American to buy!

@Paul well, if I can ever help you without the hassle of a VM, I am more than happy to pay and gift it to you

@nhinkle cool!

i think it's about to work

@WilliamHilsum I'll need your email and your paypal

@nhinkle 1 minute 40 left!

So, to help... store.steampowered.com/app/105450 and just the $4.99 one from here - store.steampowered.com/app/57900 ... Just choose the purchase as gift/store in inventory option.... and I'll pay you in Paypal

don't think there is time to pay before the thing runs out!

42 seconds!

@WilliamHilsum I successfully purchased it already

the one you wanted - the two $10 options

This was all very exciting

I chose the "save to thingy to give to someone later" option

ahh... ok, cool! Thanks

now i just have to figure out how to do the giving to later thingy

It was a lot like the bomb diffusion scene in any James Bond movie. Also I like peanuts.

if you put your email here, i'll copy then you can delete it...

if you give me your steam ID, I'll add you and then we can do Steam Trade

@WilliamHilsum just a sec

@Paul defusion*

ok

... and in that time, My bath filled to the top and is all cold :(

Though it would be interesting to see a bomb diffuse

Actually, that might be termed a (slow) explosion...

@Bob too late to edit! A typo for eternity

@Paul O_o

by the way @wil the whole HP thing was not amicably resolved, but oh well

@nhinkle I'm sorry to hear that :( What happened? And sorry... Just rushing around... May be a while before I respond

@nhinkle Just an earlier typo that I didn't get to before the timeout in chat

@nhinkle: the USB port on my x220 broke. Wasn't covered under warrantee, and took them 2 weeks to realise it was insured. Whole thing ticked me off

@JourneymanGeek that's frustrating. Overall I've heard OK things about their support, and I know the hardware is far better than most of the brands, in terms of reliability.

I guess the gamble is, if something does go wrong, it might be a pain, but it's less likely to go wrong.

yup

@WilliamHilsum basically they refused to be helpful, and said they could only do a like-for-like replacement, and because they don't carry my model anymore, the closest they could do was a big heavy piece of crap that I didn't like.

this compared to old IBM

"This thing is broken" "Ok, send it to us/we'll pick it up"

I wish more companies would see the value in providing good support.

No questions asked, no making me run around to the depot

election primary is interesting for sure

@nhinkle I would escalate it :/ Have you accepted now? I would try to say that you bought it solely because of xx, so, it isn't like for like in your case

@WilliamHilsum i was already escalated all the way to the highest level they claim exists

and went 'round the block several times

i laid out very specific requirements and they basically said "sorry, we can't do that, this is our 'closest replacement' available"

the consensus seems to be that once you get to the case manager level, there is no more level to go to

now earlier in the process they did give me a phone number to call if i had a complaint, and i fully intend to call that once i have the replacement physically in my hands (so they can't screw many over any further) and demand a refund

@nhinkle Bah, if you have it now, it is NEVER too late, try sending an email here - meg.whitman / megwhitman / m.whitman / mwhitman @hp.com (and do the same with other names from here www8.hp.com/us/en/company-information/executive-team/team.html ) you will probably never get a response from them, just secretary/PA/similar, but, you should get a response!

I would say that you urgently needed a laptop so were forced to accept, but, you are in no way happy

who/what is that?

HP's CEO!

oh. the CEO

That's the top! Not whatever email/contact details that customer support give you!

break the chain!

it's more like "haven't had a laptop in nearly 2 months due to HP's repeated fuck-ups and am very unhappy and planning to inform every customer I ever have to never purchase an HP product again"

i doubt it'll do much good, but i'll try

they still haven't shipped the replacement yet

i'm hoping to sell the replacement on ebay and use the money to buy a thinkpad :P

i won't tell them that though

@nhinkle A friend had a problem with his X-Box red ringing 3 days outside of warranty.. They wouldn't help! I emailed Steve Ballmer, Got a replacement within a few days and a personal call from one of the head of X-Box EMEA!

If you are fed up with a company, always email the CEO! :)

Good suggestion, thanks :)

I'm also considering contacting the BBB and/or going to small claims court if I can come up with enough documentation of monetary damages. But I'm holding off on those two options until I see what happens.

If they get paid over $1,000,000 a year, that is roughly $4,000 a day... Their time is more valuable to the company than just saying yes to a few requests that come in...

@WilliamHilsum and if that doesn't work, email [email protected]

@Paul haha... INVADE AMERICA!

@Paul that would be [email protected], methinks

@WilliamHilsum Oh Will! Echelon monitors SU chat you know!

Mind you, after hearing about the extraditions, I wonder if me writing that (as this server is in America) is enough to get me deported on treason!

hehe

ALL UR BASE ARE BELONG TO U.S.

THEY SET US UP THE FBI

right... need to get ready... I'll hopefulyl be in work ~8:30 UK time... I'll try to catch up then!

see ya @wil. thanks for all the tips, and enjoy your new games :)

If I am not in work by then/not here... a USA snatch squad has me! Leak it to the internet!

@nhinkle hehe, thanks

@nhinkle No, I am definitely right, she is part of the tourist loop: england.com

well go figure

It is her primary purpose after all

(btw I am definitely not right)

having fun writing questions for the town hall chat i'll be absent for...

@nhinkle I'll be somewhat absent for that as well...

@nhinkle I WILL CRUSH THEM, SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE ME, AND HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THEIR WOMEN!

@JourneymanGeek, too bad you are not running :)

lol

I considered it ;p

why not (out of curiosity)

Busy with school this year, and too many good candidates

gotcha

Will be standing next election for certain.

oh, we're not having another election. ever.

@nhinkle: in which case, i'll need to hire a hitman ;p

i'm kidding, of course

But am i? g

Actually, i can probably seriously answer most of those ;p

@nhinkle Those are interesting questions regarding specific individuals - do mods have the ability to directly communicate with users somehow?

@Paul yeah, we can send messages to users, particularly in usage with suspension

it's reserved for "very serious situations only" though

good night all

they have the superping

( @@username on chat)

true, there's that too. we can make a private chatroom and ping someone into it, but that's not used all that much, really

I do think one very important skill for a mod is never to mod angry tho

(That said, there's nothing wrong with 'Oh, i am too pissed off to think straight, could you handle this please?)

Which is what i would likely do if its one of my decisions that are in question

Heh. I was thinking about asking about that. "You're having an absolutely shitty day, and see a crappy post in the flag queue. Do you burninante it on site, or step back and let someone else handle it?"

lol

@nhinkle I'm pretty sure that @IvoFlipse spends his crappy days burninating to his hearts content :P

@KronoS True that

Though there's plenty of crap so I don't have to take it out on good posts

Holy smoly, 100 questions closed yesterday?

gulp

@Paul @nhinkle - American Government didn't get me! I made it in to work!

hmm what does it mean if someone withdraws and withdraws that withdrawal? it definitely doesn't seem all that good to me.

@jokerdino Don't think that's possible

but in this election it would be a way to make it to the final phase, by avoiding downvotes :P

Hmm I am sure there were two withdrawals yesterday and I see only one today o.O

@IvoFlipse blame the new system ;p

makes it REALLY easy to run through closevotes

even if you arn't blindly hitting close ;p

is @slhck around?

@JourneymanGeek I don't mind

we get 160 Qs/day I'm sure there's plenty of crap among those

most of the time we just wait a month or so, until the user either adjusted or left, then clean up :P

why in the !#$@#@world isn't that convert to comment option present in the [review] task list

superuser.com/questions/450338/…

spam spam spam

overzealous moderating boo ;p

@jokerdino nope

Aww, I can't edit my previous message. Anyway, I was referring to this - meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/139349/…

lol

@Sathya: nooo, how else would i get flags ;p

@jokerdino ah, that

yes him.

@KronoS I still have plenty left, just never had anyone to hand invites to

Found a cool project yesterday: cnx.org/content/m15641/latest

That's pretty cool. I don't see how it wouldn't destroy the source audio though.

@Shiki It filters the lame background laughter on US tv shows?

Yepp!

I saw some videos on Youtube from Big Bang and "Friends", and both had their laugh tracks removed.

awesome

(Damn I really hate that fake laughter...)

@Shiki I bet it made it a lot more fun :P

weeeeell....

awkward moment -> something unfunny -> something happens -> not really funny awkward moment

Friends was good though

Hey guys, anyone know if there's a Inno3d 570 GTX that comes with a water block pre-mounted? Trying to buy a 570gtx from a guy, but he says that it has no air cooling..

Ask for pictures.

Isn't that kinda rude? "I don't believe you, please send pictures" ;)

Of course not. You will pay with real money for that thing.

Just ask him: "Could you take some pictures of the card?"

"I want to see if it's the model I'm looking for."

Pretty please

!

Well he says it has water cooling, which I don't want

You don't want to get wet? :O

no.

(I was surprised to see when AMD started shipping watercooled CPUs (FX higher series))

I would like a water cooled GPU, but the thought of disconnecting the cables makes my heart sink

What do you guys think about Windows 7's built-in backup?

Is it "business-grade" enough? Will the data be safe if I use it?

I've had problems restoring from a NAS

(I just fear it relies on shadow-copy or something)

An Linux NAS

:/

But it was solveable

If you're running Windows only network, I think your fine

The thing is.. that we have a business machine, and a home machine. And I have to backup them. Now... we had an Acronis license, but it's expired now.

the problem: superuser.com/questions/268031/…

So where is the solution? :D

I think I copied the entire backup to an external hdd

And restored from it

Oh.

I think the windows tool should work ok. Just remember to actually save your backups to a safe location. Jeff is a self-professed backup expert ;) codinghorror.com/blog/2008/01/whats-your-backup-strategy.html

But if you just get an external hdd, and use it for backup, your fine

you're

@Shiki I think it uses a ton of space, but it does let you pick which files you want to put back and stuff like that

And damn picking a new monitor is hard

@VBwhatnow - And he uses Acronis. Cool. (rsync, yes.)

and hi @ChrisF

@IvoFlipse - Picking anything is hard if you are low on budget. :D

@VBwhatnow You mean he bumped his head enough times to know the drill :P

I can buy a cheap NAS maybe.... maybe. :/

@Shiki Well there are like 200 monitors for around 200€

Mine was easy to find. Cheapest 22". This one got a HDMI. Good. ^^"

Well I don't need it to be the cheapest, just not suck and be good to look at for 12+ hrs :P

Hmm btw. that link of Jeff's blog...

Can't you just softRAID those two USB drives with Windows?

Also: HDDs cost a wonder now, I can't even imagine how could I afford two drives and a NAS. :(

(remember kids: Backup is not cheap!)

Thats why I dont bother at all ;) . Well thats a lie. Documents get Google Drive'd and everything else can burn along with my house if it comes to it.

I like this quote though ""OMG, three drives is so expensive! That sounds like a hassle!" Shut up. I know things. You will listen to me. Do it anyway."

@VBwhatnow I'm uploading my pics to Picasa at full resolution and the rest to CrashPlan

@VBwhatnow - I backup my stuff to Wuala. It's perfect. But we are talking about 320gb of data now that I have to backup. And a DSL uplink. Imagine uploading that!

acesdirect.nl/product/6166319/…

This must be a mistake right?

That sounds nightmarish. Ive been trying to download max payne 3 from steam for 3 days and thats only 29GB

@Shiki Id hate to try and deal with 320 gigs

Oh wait its just the cable

Hah. @IvoFlipse "Picture is just an illustration" I guess. :D

@VBwhatnow - Now that's my problem. And HDD prices are still high. I've got a 500gb drive, which is the current destination. Well, let's hope (pray for religious) they won't fail.

Otherwise, I can imagine the owner of that data literally go insane.

Does anyone know if there is a cheap water cooling system like Antec Kühler H2O 620, that can be extended to be used on a GPU also?

@IvoFlipse Not really here :)

@Znarkus I thought you didn't want to water cool? Changed your mind?

@VBwhatnow Evaluating my options. ;) I like water cooling for it's low noise, but it's a lot of hussle just to get a cheap graphics card..

I think you'd be better off taking the money you would spend on the water cooling gear and just buy a more powerful air cooled card.

@VBwhatnow Thanks. That's probably wise.

No problem :)

He almost matched the other questions title 100% :D

@OliverSalzburg Yet another user who can't be bothered reading the suggested questions list...

...gah. Programmers who hard code specific version numbers without considering future versions... Unless there's actually a reason it doesn't work on a newer version, there's no excuse for using a == instead of a >=...

@Sathya That question seems legit.. FLV videos are more tricky than others I guess.

@slhck ok

@jokerdino Didn't Luke withdraw?

And then someone pressed Ctrl-Z

@Bob he then unwithdrew...

people need to make up their minds ;p

Users never will, Administrators do ;)

I beg to differ, answers should still hold up to some quality standard, else they're not answers

and they can still be edited.

superuser.com/questions/450444/which-ram-to-buy-for-laptop is this off-topic?

wierdly enough? You can probably close it as a dupe

alternately OT as a shopping recommendation

or too localised

OTOH, it could probably be fixed up to be a better, canonical question

@JourneymanGeek I should keep that one in mind

having a problem... new pc - fresh copy of windows 7 pro / 2003 AD - rename the pc, reboot, join the domain, reboot, login as the domain user (regular everyday user) - open outlook 2007 - configure it to exchange 2003 - works fine as it always does - config finishes, outlook opens - crashes before it can ask for the users name and initials. reboot, try again; same thing. safe mode - same thing. error log says Faulting Outlook.exe - no specific error, just a bunch of time stamps and crap

tried multiple pc's (thought it was a pc issue) - same thing - this process has gone fine with over 100 users. no issues with anyone else

good morning, by the way :)

@lsiunsuex When in doubt, run Process Monitor :P

2nd time i'm trying to migrate this user - tried a few months ago - same issue, wasted to much time and moved on to the next person on the list. @ end of the list, need to get this one done. User is working fine on her existing windows xp machine

;p

crashing how?

BSOD?

microsoft outlook has stopped working

ticking progress bar - close program button - no other details

@OliverSalzburg never used process monitor - ran it, opened outlook, it crashed - what should i look for in the report?

@lsiunsuex Filter the recorded events so it only shows events by outlook.exe

Then check what the last events were before it crashed

Windows + Enterprise = NEVER AGAIN.

This Windows 7 backup is the blunder of the century.

lol

Just look at this: support.microsoft.com/kb/973455

That's like pants-on-head retarded.