Root Access

HackToHell

15:04

@TomWijsman k

howtogeek.com/117890/… nice

Tom Wijsman

I'll better be on the side where I can do this awesome contest and poke the new mods with a ton more flags. :D

Simon Sheehan

Oh awesome, I got Source Filmmaker now

wonder if it works on Mac, would like it at school..

HackToHell

@SimonSheehan Awesome ;)

@TomWijsman lol

Simon Sheehan

Pretty excited about it, I love making videos and always waited for this day :P

HackToHell

Make a fearsome meet the pyro then :)

Simon Sheehan

15:08

oh yes :)

HackToHell

And I am addicted to tf2 thanks to you ;p

no regrets

Simon Sheehan

Hahaha. Its a good game :)

HackToHell

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/17796/… We need more committers !!

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell Ah, I'll be governer of the TS related tags then.

HackToHell

Now you can have your profile pic as TS and gain more upvotes ;p

@TomWijsman yeah xD

Tom Wijsman

15:14

@HackToHell Oh right, forgot about that, wait a moment...

With the new avatar I could make a cute nomination as well. :P j/k

HackToHell

lol

Tom Wijsman

Waiting for CDN to propagate new image...

HackToHell

gravatar.com/avatar/…

And waiting ...

Tom Wijsman

rofl :D

Ahahaha, I can change the URL to show the new one.

HackToHell

yes we have a change, now Tom is cute Tom xoxoxoxo

slhck

15:19

gravatar.com/avatar/d3b75bb3bda58d5d4a7d31b820f856c9?s=256

jokerdino

gravatar.com/avatar/d3b75bb3bda58d5d4a7d31b820f856c9

slhck

That's just awesome.

Tom Wijsman

Geezz, so much people jumping on it.

slhck

We should all have cats as avatars.

2

soandos

Is there any way I can see my own deleted meta questions?

jokerdino

15:20

@soandos if you have the link, yes

HackToHell

@slhck Proposal accepted

slhck

@soandos Nope, need a mod to list them for you.

Tom Wijsman

@slhck @JourneymanGeek is going to have a problem with that, I think.

soandos

That is a pain...

Tom Wijsman

@slhck: I just changed the PG in G in my URL.

Or well, HTH's URL.

slhck

15:21

Oh, see? The "world cat day" is on August 8.

@TomWijsman And Wil :P

Tom Wijsman

Come on people, change avatars. :D

jokerdino

nope. i like dinosaurs

Ivo Flipse

Darn, we have a bunch of good candidates for the elections

HackToHell

I am changing please wait ..

Ivo Flipse

I should come up with some trick questions to figure out who will get my 2 votes

jokerdino

15:24

@IvoFlipse yeah I am pretty sure I am boycotting the election

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell Commited, and my rep gets everyone to see it. xD

Can't get the " out of there though...

Ivo Flipse

@jokerdino How so?

jokerdino

@IvoFlipse You mean why so?

Tom Wijsman

Oh wait, it adds a " at the end and in the front, I see...

HackToHell

minus.com/l6FjJOTHNMyCg

Is this cool enough ?

jokerdino

15:26

I can't decide on who to vote. so, the easy way out is to stay out :P

slhck

@jokerdino Then try to come up with a few easy criteria, that makes your decision easier, and you get three votes anyway.

Seeing a regular user not voting is … a bit sad.

jokerdino

@slhck suggest a couple?

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell: I also find Mepher's quote under mine quite funny on that Area 51 page.

jokerdino

@slhck it just happens to be that I am crashing SU chat quite regularly. =)

slhck

@jokerdino Well, whatever you'd like to see in a moderator. Responsiveness, friendliness, strictness, cuteness

HackToHell

15:28

@TomWijsman lol

slhck

@HackToHell Sure it is!

jokerdino

@slhck Hmm I'll put together a bunch of numbers then.

HackToHell

:)

jokerdino

well, everyone knows who gets 10 on the cuteness scale

Tom Wijsman

:5321192 Gravatar, preventing too cute cat pictures...

Ivo Flipse

15:29

- How many flags have they cast?
- Do you regularly notice the candidates activities, like editing, voting to close/delete or leaving helpful comments?
- Do you find yourself agreeing with the candidates Meta posts more than with others?
- How does the candidate behave in discussions or users that get angry? Do you like the person (or their avatar :P)

HackToHell

Ta da we have a change :)

@TomWijsman :) :)

Tom Wijsman

- Do they return cookies when you give them flags?
- Do they like cats? Or dogs perhaps?
- Do they know Willy?

jokerdino

@IvoFlipse can I get to randomly pick from a bunch of people i have shortlisted then?

i have like 7 people in mind.

Ivo Flipse

@jokerdino If you have 6 candidates left after having voted for slhck, then you can just roll a dice to pick two of them :P

slhck

lol, subliminal endorsement right there

jokerdino

15:32

well yes. slhck makes it a little easy.

so, 6C2 hmm

Tom Wijsman

Whoever is red gets my vote.

Oh no, that's Alex... This ain't working.

HackToHell

We have a change

jokerdino

And, can we close the nomination already? This is not making things better for voters.

Ivo Flipse

@jokerdino Well Daniel still hasn't nominated

Journeyman Geek

lol

jokerdino

15:38

oh boy :/

soandos

@JourneymanGeek, you are also qualified

why are we getting only 3 new mods?

HackToHell

yeah @jou why are you not applying ?

soandos

If we have more qualified people, why not make it 5 (arbitrary number greater than 3)

Tom Wijsman

@soandos: Yeah, we should make like 20 mods and have them all vote on flags. :D

Journeyman Geek

@TomWijsman Sadly the only cat i would consider as an avatar died before i could take a photograph of his utterly awesome one eyed mug :/

@HackToHell: Well, looking at the field, i'd much rather these people win than i do

I'll stand next elections ;p

jokerdino

15:40

I'll stand next elections. oh wait.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Ivo Flipse

@soandos For some reason they didn't want that

I think it had to do with the 'friction' that arises when new mods get new shiny tools :P

So its better to only have 3, which makes it easier to guide/educate them

jokerdino

~~and to annoy them.~~

Journeyman Geek

lol

Ivo Flipse

Though really its not rocket science and preferably the users who get elected will already know what to do (and when not to do it)

jokerdino

15:41

no, not that.

soandos

@IvoFlipse, perhaps top three get it right away, phase in the other two after a few months

Tom Wijsman

Another reason could be because the amount of work would drastically lower.

Ivo Flipse

@soandos If any of the current mods happens to drop out, that could happen

Journeyman Geek

@soandos: they've have had runner ups brought in previously

soandos

@TomWijsman, we could finally clear the backlog in /review

Journeyman Geek

15:42

lol

there's a backlog? goes look

Tom Wijsman

@soandos I was planning for that, but then it went off-line...

jokerdino

so, let's number crunch once again.

soandos

@TomWijsman, its still possible with the current tools, just takes a long time

jokerdino

time to filter 2 out of 6

Tom Wijsman

Current tools burn me out after [a-very-low-amount-of] pages.

jokerdino

15:43

hey how do i find the meta rep again?

Journeyman Geek

lol

soandos

@TomWijsman, here here

Journeyman Geek

Actually, least for me, i'm finding the biggest factor in deciding who to vote for is.. here

Tom Wijsman

@soandos: I mean, you have to scroll and do an extra one or two clicks every time.

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek ??

i would have voted for you if not for the i not being capitalized.

Ivo Flipse

15:45

I want our review-beta page back :(

jokerdino

@IvoFlipse is that only for SU?

i want it for AU :(

Journeyman Geek

between a two people, everything else equal, i'd vote for the person i knew here ;p

Ivo Flipse

Well we only had it last night, I believe the Trilogy + MSO had it

jokerdino

<-- AU fanboi.

Tom Wijsman

@jokerdino: Meta.SO had it for quite a long time, I'm guessing they are testing it on the trilogy before expanding it everywhere.

Journeyman Geek

15:46

everyone is getting it eventually, yes?

jokerdino

right

Tom Wijsman

Easier to fix one or two sites than the whole network.

jokerdino

hmm the amount of crap in AU is unimaginable

Sathya

@slhck Ooo.

Journeyman Geek

lol

it is

Sathya

15:47

@jokerdino AU welcomes them.

jokerdino

@Sathya SHUP YOU

Journeyman Geek

At the risk of sounding crusty...

its the ubuntu community as a whole ;p

Sathya

What ees this "shup"

jokerdino

i wish i can borrow slhck on a short term basis but he is unwilling :P

Journeyman Geek

its about the same on irc

Sathya

15:47

@JourneymanGeek lololol

Ivo Flipse

@jokerdino Show some restecp!

Sathya

don't make @jokerdino cry, @JourneymanGeek

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek Nooo~

Journeyman Geek

lol

jokerdino

@Sathya :-(

Journeyman Geek

15:48

Then again, its september ;p

Tom Wijsman

@jokerdino Hey, if the SU queue is empty I'll come over to AU, deal?

Journeyman Geek

lol

jokerdino

@IvoFlipse I meant SHU'P actually

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: I clean up what i can already ;p

when i get enough rep, i'll take a look at the rest

jokerdino

@TomWijsman how about the other way around? :D

Tom Wijsman

15:50

@jokerdino If you write me an userscript that replicates the new review beta?

jokerdino

you are good in SU then.. :P

I'll borrow someone else

yeah here comes @KronoS

KronoS

@jokerdino you pang?

Tom Wijsman

@KronoS: There are dinosaurs in this room again, watch out...

jokerdino

yeah i pang you.

Tom Wijsman

And while you're at it, don't mind my new avatar.

jokerdino

15:52

i was talking about how i can draft SU'ers into AU without much friction.

KronoS

@TomWijsman Tom! you changed your avatar! Grrr... now I'm going to be all confused for awhile

jokerdino

but without having any of the SU mods barking at me =)

KronoS

@jokerdino sorry, but I don't know what AU is... unless you're meaning Australia...

jokerdino

@KronoS hmm okay then. i will blackhole into the /review myself

Tom Wijsman

@KronoS Don't make me change my name. ;D

@jokerdino: You can hire Kino.

jokerdino

15:55

@TomWijsman I can haz Sathya

HaydnWVN

om nomnom?

Tom Wijsman

You're kidnapping him?

jokerdino

yeah

Journeyman Geek

lol

@TomWijsman: maw, they really want Alex.

Tom Wijsman

@jokerdino Oh, I haz you a new pic. Both dino and cat...

Journeyman Geek

15:56

Who dosen't want a mod who's cute, and types like a 13 year old.

Tom Wijsman

3

soandos

@JourneymanGeek, what do you thing the odds are that Alex is really an overweight dude?

jokerdino

@TomWijsman the lol?

Tom Wijsman

Or one of the thousand picz where cats are wearing dino costumes.

jokerdino

nope

good night. it was fun. parcel slhck to AU later

Tom Wijsman

15:59

Dinocats, I will never understand...

Good night, gonna go (for dinner) as well.

Journeyman Geek

@soandos: actually? gut instincts says thats prolly her

jokerdino

what are the odds @jou is actually that puppy?

soandos

@JourneymanGeek, dispite the google search that shows that photo (exact) all over the place

Journeyman Geek

lol

jokerdino

my gut says it is the dog

Journeyman Geek

16:01

my response to that is, my gut can be wrong

@jokerdino: Its rather hard to type with paws ;p

HaydnWVN

we discussed where the phrase 'gut instinct' comes from earlier in the office

Journeyman Geek

actually, what's wrong with self nomination and getting a second?

its a good balance between the two options

HaydnWVN

Quite interesting... We concluded its to do with your stomach secreting hormones weather you're hungry or full to prompt you to seek out food/stop eating :)

Journeyman Geek

lol

KronoS

/me sighs everyone is eating up my /review/late-answers posts :(

Journeyman Geek

16:06

lol

Ya . Its a good source of flags ;p

HaydnWVN

fleeting visit for me anyways, cya o/

Tom Wijsman

16:48

Anyone here using Grooveshark (or have used it)?

Simon Sheehan

Looking at it now... interesting looking

oh awesome you can just listen to music :o

Tom Wijsman

The thing is, in the radio mode (which adds relevant songs to the queue) when I dislike something and later come back to the site and listen again. I get songs that I disliked again.

Wonder if anyone has that. But well, tempted to write an user script to auto-dislike them or something.

(Oh, I can bump my survey points and get an upgrade; didn't know there were quite some surveys to do now.)

Ivo Flipse

@TomWijsman I stopped using it after a major label pulled their records

suddenly half a playlist was gone

Tom Wijsman

@IvoFlipse: Really? I didn't notice anything.

Although it's probably not the type of songs I listen, though...

Do you know [Company Name] --> No.
How many digital [Company Name] songs have you purchased in the past 6 months? --> There's no 0 option. xD

Journeyman Geek

make shit up ;p

Tom Wijsman

17:02

Probably not useful that I fill it in for them, but it gives 100 points whatsoever. I'm at 450 and only need like 50 more. :D

HackToHell

Why has not avatar changed yet !! Silently weeps

@TomWijsman i have used it

i was good and as @Ivo said they do not have newer songs thanks to an case filed against them

Tom Wijsman

Hmm, seems there isn't really that much extra for subscribers.

HackToHell

What happend to spotify ?

Tom Wijsman

Only 5 visualtions, and power hour switches song every 60 seconds (could do that with an userscript as well); other than that, mobile is a thing probably although they don't support WP7.

@HackToHell I constantly hit the time limit there, don't want to pay for any subscriptions till I have a job.

HackToHell

@TomWijsman Time limit ? I never hit it .. 0_o

Tom Wijsman

17:14

WoW was perhaps an exception, but looking back at the money that went into that, geezz...

HackToHell

@TomWijsman And you are gonna study MS too, so that will be 3 more more years before you get a job

Tom Wijsman

Well, not explicitly. I don't think there's much attention to such certifications here, perhaps could do the exams and that, but don't think there's much to gain.

USA would be a different story, but have no direct plan as to flying over to there...

HackToHell

And so you are gonna finish studying this year and and you are gonna get a job and buy cool stuff and make me jealous :P

and you are going to go mad

at me

Simon Sheehan

@HackToHell Not available in Canada :(

HackToHell

That's new, canada has everything US has, India does not have it too, but I have an premium forever account of Unotelly ;)

Tom Wijsman

17:18

@HackToHell Another 1.5 school years to go...

slhck

Any JavaScript gurus around?

HackToHell

@SimonSheehan If you want it badly, then switch to UnoTelly's dns servers and ta da spotify works unotelly.com

Tom Wijsman

Microsoft Translater... o_O

HackToHell

I managed to get gold forever by reviewing them ;p

Tom Wijsman

I love the bad translation Unotelly receives. :D

HackToHell

17:21

lol xD

Tom Wijsman

Oh, it's not free? It's not just a DNS server change?

Was already wondering why so much effort has been put into that site...

HackToHell

Spotify alone is free, technically you are using thier demo

They do not track demos

So you can use spotify forever without paying a buck

Tom Wijsman

Last.fm same problem, we're limited in some countries here.

And well, proxy works but most good proxies you find die within a few days...

@HackToHell How so?

HackToHell

I have my own VPN and there's tunnel bear if all eso fails

Tom Wijsman

I listen for like a day... Time limit.

HackToHell

17:25

Not time limit, regional filtering, You have to be spotify ultimate/watever to listen from any country, by using unotelly, you can skip that

@TomWijsman a day ? OMG :D

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell Yeah, how else did I got to 1000 plays on the same artist?

HackToHell

@TomWijsman Then why don't you download all the music you want ?

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell Because I want to hear new music sometimes...

HackToHell

Then download the stuff you hear frequently and play new stuff in spotify, by downloading and adding to Spotify's library, you skip ads and stuff so it will prolly skip time limits too

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell: Oh, didn't see you comment on my profile. Already seen that the moment it hit the internet... :D

HackToHell

17:29

lol, I though so ...

And good night belgium guys and canadians(land of beiber ;p) . It's close to midnight and I have school tomorrow.

Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell Hey hey, Avril Lavigne.

HackToHell

Like some of her songs too

Tom Wijsman

She played all of her songs at her concert, thought she would limit it to an album but no, just about everything... o_O

Or at least it seemed a lot.

Oliver Salzburg

17:47

@TomWijsman What's with the avatar? :D

Tom Wijsman

Cats...

2 hours ago, by slhck

We should all have cats as avatars.

2 hours ago, by slhck

Oh, see? The "world cat day" is on August 8.

Since I'm going on vacation, I'm preparing for that day already.

qweet

catvatars

gravatar transitions into catvatars for cat day

discovers that 80% of people love cats and want the catvatars to stay

people soon discover they like cats on other things too

soon, the kitten invasion spreads like wildfire throughout the internet

3

several counter-culture movements spawn up (puppy pride, capybara creed, bird brawlers) and fizzle away

3

it seems like nothing is safe from kittification meme (a term coined by social scientists three months after the event began- it also left Richard Dawkins foaming at the mouth in rage)

december 2012 rolls around and it turns out the Mayan apocalypse event was really a warning about the impending social collapse due to the weight of kittens

WE WERE WARNED

BUT WE NEVER LISTENED TO THE SIGNS

Oliver Salzburg

@TomWijsman Ah, well done :)

qweet

40 years later after the kitten-induced dark ages a new humanity rises from the ashes like a phoenix and social cascading collapse repeats itself every 50 years.

Simon Sheehan

18:57

Grooveshark is groovy

Mokubai

19:07

Ba-dum-tish

Oliver Salzburg

Heh. I just captured a tiny sparrow :D

It fell out of a nest above our balcony and couldn't make it over the balustrade.

Cool :)

Mokubai

Pics? Or have you set it free already?

slhck

19:25

@OliverSalzburg Oh.. I wonder if the parents will pick it up again once it's been in contact with humans

Simon Sheehan

19:40

Feels good to be cleaning/editing again :D

slhck

> Too many humourless ubermensch on this site as it is. We want a moderator from somewhere that is not Germany, Austria or Belgium. – BJ292 16 mins ago

…… oooookay.

I would like to flag that comment >_>

Simon Sheehan

@slhck It's a bit racist I think... you should flag it. If you link me to it, we can kill it with spam flags.

Also who is "we"..

slhck

@SimonSheehan It's on my nomination.

I just flagged as offensive.

Because that's what it is.

Simon Sheehan

Yeah, I did the same

If anyone else wants to help: superuser.com/election/2#post-446834

slhck

But seriously.. how would Nietzsche's conception of the Übermensch be related to our one moderator from Belgium. We don't even have mods from Germany or Austria here.

Simon Sheehan

19:54

It's a bizarre post, and now re-reading it, downright racist.

Mokubai

@slhck Also flagged, then it vanished...

slhck

@Mokubai Thanks!

Simon Sheehan

Flags killed it, nice work gentlemen :)

Mokubai

I get that we should have multicultural mods, but we do have a wide variety, India, UK, USA, Netherlands and many more...

I didn't think we had any mods from Germany/Austria/Belgium

Simon Sheehan

Isnt one of the SE guys from Belgium?

Balpha is from Germany I believe

Mokubai

20:00

Ah, I was only considering SU

Simon Sheehan

SU... dont think we do

slhck

Yeah, balpha's the only one I can think of.

I mean, you probably know Pekka from SO/MSO

Mokubai

What does it matter though, it's actions that count as both a community member and moderator and I can't honestly say I've seen any mods really abusing their power

slhck

Everything's logged anyway.

Diogo

@Mokubai Do we have some mod from another place that not eua/canada?

slhck

20:02

@Diogo @Sathya's from India.

Diogo

@slhck Hmm, I forgot about it.... nice..

@Mokubai superuser.com/election/2#post-447095 agreed!

slhck

The time zone thing is actually quite important. If all your mods are from the U.S. you're never going to clear all those flags on time.

That's a problem with SO

Diogo

@slhck indeed

Mokubai

In that case we now need a Japanese mod and a Hawaiian mod :)

Diogo

@Mokubai do we have any candidates?

:D

Ivo Flipse

20:05

@slhck I'm from the Netherlands anyway, so what the heck he got Belgium from is beyond me

Mokubai

I call dibs if SU want to pay for someone to move to Hawaii

Simon Sheehan

@IvoFlipse I think its a blanket racist statement... think back to World War 2.

slhck

@IvoFlipse Sorry, I just saw… for some reason I mixed you up with Tom :P

Ivo Flipse

@SimonSheehan No need to remind us about WW2, our school system is traumatized by it :P

Simon Sheehan

@IvoFlipse ours goes quite into it :P

Mokubai

20:07

The school I was at spent almost a year drilling WW2 into us, almost the the exclusion of everything else...

Simon Sheehan

Ours drills it in, but likes to highlight certain points.... mostly about Canada

Ivo Flipse

Anyway, lets change the subject, because this one sucks

Mokubai

Want to know what else sucks? Vacuums.

Simon Sheehan

In other news, COOL DOGS

Diogo

changing the subject, does someone saw spider x sonnen ufc fight?

Mokubai

20:10

Oh, on a historical note, does anyone believe that Abraham Lincoln really was a vampire hunter?

soandos

no...

Mokubai

American history would be so much cooler if he was

Simon Sheehan

I totally think he was.

Diogo

@Mokubai never heard about it....

Ivo Flipse

@Mokubai I'd first have to visit Washington before I can make up my mind

soandos

20:10

@Mokubai, this about the new movie or something?

Ivo Flipse

Probably @soandos

Is Spiderman worth watching?

Mokubai

@soandos Aye, not a bad movie to be honest

soandos

@Mokubai, not really my speed ;)

and that is one heck of an endorsement

Mokubai

@IvoFlipse You're on your way over there at some point aren't you? Or was that Canada?

Ivo Flipse

@Mokubai First Canada, so my answer will have to wait :P I do want to see Washington though

I'll first visit Simon's crappy country ;P

Simon Sheehan

20:13

:P Except your too far to see me

Mokubai

I'd take Canada over 'murica any day.

Oliver Salzburg

@slhck Well, I'd say that is very unlikely for different reasons :D

The sparrow only ended up on our balcony because their nest was ripped out from under our roof :P

Simon Sheehan

Amurica

slhck

@SimonSheehan There's no "A" in 'murica!

Simon Sheehan

D:

In Canada we often say "Amurrica" though D:

Hey moderators, if you've got a minute, drop by the VTC room! We're using up all of ours votes haha

For those with 2k+ rep, help out too!

slhck

20:21

@SimonSheehan There's no "A" in 'murica!

Simon Sheehan

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/117/…

@slhck haha

Well, mobile has been nuked. woohoo

Didn't take too long either.

soandos

@slhck, manufacturer specific tags should be killed right?

slhck

@soandos In theory, there's a lot of support for killing them, yes. But that would be a huge effort to do manually.

Simon Sheehan

And he means HUGE..

soandos

@slhck, I am just going to kill off truly ergomonic (one count)

slhck

20:25

I'd rather have a dev do it, based on Daniel's two MSU questions

@soandos Yeah, always a good idea to nuke tags before they start to get used

soandos

@slhck, I am talking about for the new tags

slhck

Remember to check the /tools for the last 30 days: superuser.com/tools?tab=stats&daterange=last30days

There's always a bunch of useless tags there

Simon Sheehan

Wah, no access to page D:

soandos

@slhck, doing that now :)

Simon Sheehan

Anyways, off to work now for a few hours, see you all later :)

slhck

20:27

See ya @SimonSheehan!

soandos

@SimonSheehan have fun :)

nhinkle

20:56

OK, folks. I need some help.

I sent in my HP laptop for repair, because the fan died. HP called me today and informed me that they don't have the parts to fix it, so they need to send me a replacement.

Ivo Flipse

I'm not around :P

nhinkle

Now, the one they want to send me is this one here: shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/…

it's got decent specs, but it's the gaudy ugly "Beats" edition

Ivo Flipse

That's probably not what you owned

nhinkle

nope.

I mean I don't want this ugly crap on my laptop:

Ivo Flipse

Beats me

nhinkle

20:58

it's still got nicer specs than my original laptop - higher res screen, Ivy Bridge, more RAM

but god it's ugly

so the question is - do I take it, or do I try to persuade them to give me a nicer one?

they don't have the non-beats edition of this laptop anymore, apparently

but i'm not sure if I can get them to up me to one of their super expensive 15" models (the macbook pro clones)

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