Root Access

Aibobot

00:43

in theory, you could, in many cases grab it from your router, then use various text mangling tools to extract it

on my old router I did it with ports of grep and cut

Bob

00:57

@Aibobot deeeeeeeeepends?

on whether you're CGN'd (in which case external IP does nothing for you), double-NAT'd, behind a PPP...

bwDraco

Jul 17 '16 at 21:00, by Ben N

Oh hey, it's time for some Windows Updates! <game show music>

Aibobot

01:12

@Bob hence the 'in theory'

won't work if you need to log into the router to view information either

bwDraco

pcworld.com/article/3407797/…

Wow. Just wow.

Bob

@Aibobot well, that's what ddns is for

Aibobot

@Bob funny thing that - i had that script cause the DDNS client wouldn't pick up my IP

Bob

@Aibobot so - there's ddns clients that let you specify an external site to retrieve the address from :P

Aibobot

@Bob which mostly failed... in that case

My old ISP was ... fun

between the arbitrary port blocks, random policy swings....

they went from "You can't use more than one PC a connection" to giving away WRT54GLs

Pretty certain they ran a transparent proxy that messed things up

Ramhound

01:35

So if you had a choice between a monitor for a RP4 project would you get a 13" which has a metal stand or a 15.5" monitor which has a stand more like a Surface Pro/iPad Pro?

Aibobot

@Ramhound Depends on the use. Metal stand as in like a 'proper' monitor?

how're you going to mount it? What do you need to display?

Ramhound

Metal stand more secure then a folding case

stand by

It's a metal stand likely looking like _|>

actually it looks exactly like that lol

Aibobot

01:57

ah, amusingly, that would be the preference for me between the two

but the kickstand isn't bad if you need to move it around + bigger is better

my preference for rpi screens are those small, slightly crappy car reverse screens ;p

Ramhound

I am going to be building a PiHole configuration. So I want something that is out, which will likely be access remotely, but would still want an easy display config

Aibobot

02:18

ah

Michael Frank

02:34

@Ramhound I need something like this I can take to sites that don't have convenient access to a monitor for the server work we do.

Bob

@MichaelFrank You should get one of the USB ones

Aibobot

I think those are USB powered

Michael Frank

@Bob We were thinking something more basic...

Canadian Luke

02:53

@MichaelFrank If you can find one that isn't more than $150, let me know

Bob

@Aibobot bonus if it's USB display too

Journeyman Geek

@Bob not a fan there.

Bob

03:14

@JourneymanGeek useful though, if you want something that just plugs in without worrying about cable/connector type

we're not talking high res/refresh rate

Canadian Luke

And portable. That's what I want for the servers I support

Aibobot

@Bob eh, I gueessssss

But USB monitors would need a driver, and I donno how they would work with a arbitrary purely console system

Personally I'd consider VGA and HDMI better baselines

Canadian Luke

Agreed. I want something portable with VGA and HDMI; maybe battery or USB powered

Ramhound

03:35

Well the monitor in the picture is sub $150 the 15.5 is sub $160

The 15.5” is marketed towards more mobile uses it seems

Aibobot

@JourneymanGeek theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/06/…

Canadian Luke

Really? Link?

Michael Frank

@CanadianLuke That one I linked was $39USD ha

aliexpress.com/item/…

Not exactly portable, but small enough to be easily moved.

Aibobot

03:54

@MichaelFrank 12V power tho

granted, I suspect my very dodgy and slightly magic smokey molex to barrel plug adaptor would work....

Journeyman Geek

m.aliexpress.com/item/32969646383.html

Aibobot

That looks reasonable

HDMI only so dongle needed for VGA I guess

Canadian Luke

04:17

After shipping, I may as well have bought one from Amazon

Canadian Luke

04:30

Something like this would work for my work stuff

Journeyman Geek

05:11

@Bob hm. Fun - falkon does youtube fine... unless I try to change to dark mode then it freezes....

(I probably should try FF buuuuut)

but running a browser off the SD card works fine

rahuldottech

05:58

Bob

07:10

@JourneymanGeek I haven't booted that tablet in a few weeks... I'll get back to it eventually :P

Journeyman Geek

07:28

@Bob likewise. ;p

Aibobot

https://hackaday.com/2019/07/09/liquid-damaged-
macbook-saved-with-a-keen-eye/

Burgi

08:16

morning

Journeyman Geek

@Bob same as mine lol

djsmiley2k

10:25

@Ramhound Was it you who hadn't powered it on for months?

Ramhound

10:44

Powered what on the motherboard? It took me awhile to build the pc had been working crazy hours at work

djsmiley2k

10:58

oh, wasn't you then

i seem to recall someone built a PC, but didn't want topower it on for fear of it not working, or something...

Burgi

you dreamt it

djsmiley2k

11:23

quite possible

i'm leaving in a dream atm

soooooooooo tired.

I was answering that damn it

y u close >_<

DavidPostill

11:39

@djsmiley2k Link?

djsmiley2k

can't find it now

was about the flags in chrome

bertieb

This one:

superuser.com/review/reopen/890811

Whoops

THat's the review

0

Q: Adding removed chrome flags

It's possible to add removed chrome flags without downgrade Chrome? I need something like "#enable-fast-unload" (hide the tab in the moment you close it, so the closing process will continue in background), #enable-tab-audio-muting ( speaker icon will act as a mute button), #enable-chrome-home (f...

@djsmiley2k ↑

Burgi

11:54

its a terrible question

so that's how he does it

djsmiley2k

wut

35

Q: How can I effectively communicate to recruiters that a phone call is not possible?

I am a software developer in the UK, I am currently searching for a new job. Among the various methods I'm using are recruiters. I understand that the normal workflow of a typical recruiter will involve a phone call. However, my personal circumstances prevent me from taking phone calls or using ...

new-job recruitment united-kingdom phone

@bertieb yeah it was that one, I closed the page now tho so whatevs :P

Just annoying to spend the time writing the answer, onyl to have the page tell you 'nah mate.'

bertieb

Reopen tab?

As in Ctrl+Shift+T or whatver

Might still have the text

djsmiley2k

was too long ago

and I don't care enoguh :D

I'm failing to understand why someone can't take phone calls

other than they're deaf, or... er..... ?

bertieb

Subject to bail conditions

I dunno

They've said that are able to communicate in person, but they cannot take phone calls because of aspects of their current situation

So, eh

Pointless to speculate really

Journeyman Geek

12:20

Fear of phones?

Had that for ages

djsmiley2k

12:44

oh yah

but then the answer is 'get over it' -- maybe with the 'be nice' clause attached.

I still hate phones, but I deal with it.

djsmiley2k

13:59

arugh

having to add ALL OF THE IP's for Azure

(well not all, but all of their UK SOUTH 1 and 2).

rahuldottech

14:13

It's so weird when SoundCloud keeps recommending my own music to me

bertieb

I used to hate phones too

Like properly

Is it an introvert thing?

Also

@rahuldottech I got a reply on /r/DIYaudio

reddit.com/r/diysound/comments/cb1vh3/…

So I ordered a few replacement gasket / foam rings from AliExpress

djsmiley2k

@bertieb yes

bertieb

Hoping to fix them in 15 days - 3 months, whenever they arrive

djsmiley2k

and the inability to read someones facial expressions.

bertieb

But why doesn't it bother everyone?

Wondering out loud

rahuldottech

14:28

@bertieb ay, that's great. Good luck!

bertieb

@rahuldottech THanks, and cheers again for pointing me in Reddit's direction

rahuldottech

No probs :)

djsmiley2k

@bertieb because extroverts literally don't care.

bertieb

I thought extroverts thrive off people liking them and getting on well with others?

Isn't it sociopaths who don't care? ;-P

rahuldottech

@bertieb they don't thrive on others liking them, they're just more social and outgoing

bertieb

14:37

Fair enough

Ol' Jim Dyson's off to Singapore

Not that his urging to vote for Brexit is either here or there...

rahuldottech

15:00

Okay so speaking of smartphones

I'm not ashamed to admit that I used to be kinda addicted to them back in like 10th grade

But my views on them have since changed

I use my smartphone for only a few things:
- Reading articles/reddit/HN
- Making or listening to music
- Camera
- Chatting

But all of these should be suffixed with "on the go"

At this point I've left most traditional social media

And it annoys me if anyone is on their phone while I'm hanging out or interacting with them

This is behaviour that I myself have been extremely guilty of in the past

But I've thankfully grown out of it

But the fact remains that smartphone addiction is a very real problem, and I appear to be the exception, not the rule

I just kinda got sick of smartphones, I don't even know why or how

Moving on

1

Q: Motherboard won't power down completely, until display port is unplugged

A couple of days ago I bought two new monitors (iiyama g-master GB2730HSU-B1), and by doing so I also switched to using display port instead of HDMI (EVGA GTX 970 graphics card). Now a weird issue has started happening. Whenever I power down the system, a couple of LED's on my motherboard and ca...

display motherboard power-supply power displayport

Am I right in thinking that this is due to the monitors supplying some power over the display cable?

rahuldottech

15:42

Man it feels so good each time I beat harrymc to answering a question with a bounty on it ;P

Also I'm prettttyy sure what he's speculating is the cause of the problem is incorrect

bertieb

16:19

Audio question

Is there a good way to tell what causes background audio hiss, out of mic/XLR cable/amp ?

short of buying replacement all of those, I mean

bwDraco

16:41

As I prepare to update my phone... forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/…

le sigh

Extra backups and prep work.

rahuldottech

@bertieb Disconnect mic, if hiss is still there, not the mic

Disconnect cable, if hiss still there, it's the amp

if not mic or amp, then cable

bertieb

@rahuldottech Huh, that's stupidly clever

As in stupid bertieb for not thinking of that

facepalm

;-P

rahuldottech

lmao

rahuldottech

17:00

Only in the UK

►

This is such pure gold, I love it

bertieb

17:15

Wholesome fun

allquixotic

17:27

apple.slashdot.org/story/19/07/09/1453239/…

bertieb

> I look forward to stories about models Dell has recently discontinued as well. Maybe even Lenovo.

:D

> I'm treating any gains towards consumer-friendliness as an accident or maybe the results of a weekend of heavy drinking.

rahuldottech

@allquixotic Also see:

Apple kills the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pro

And relevant discussion: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20393236

I have a question for the US dudes in this room

When someone says PB&J, is the J for jam or jelly?

(jelly - the bouncy thing, jam - preserved fruit)

DavidPostill

17:42

@rahuldottech Jelly.

Peanut butter and jelly sandwich

A peanut butter and jelly (or jam) sandwich, or PB&J, includes one or more layers of peanut butter and one or more layers of jelly (called jam in British English and Canadian English) on bread. Sometimes the sandwich is eaten open-faced, or with one slice of bread folded over (effectively a "half sandwich"). The sandwich is quite common and popular in North America, especially for children; a 2002 survey showed the average American will have eaten 1,500 of these sandwiches before graduating from high school. Smuckers manufactures a commercial sealed crustless sandwich made of peanut butter and...

Jelly is Jam in proper English

rahuldottech

Jelly is also...

DavidPostill

😋

rahuldottech

This is what comes to mind when I hear "jelly"

DavidPostill

@rahuldottech That is Jello-O in improper English.

6

A: What's the difference between "jelly" and "jam"?

There is a difference. Jam in the UK, is what Americans call jelly. Jelly in the UK, is what Americans call "Jell-O". The main difference, is how to use these words. Consider who you are talking to, to ensure that you make your meaning clear. If you are talking to a British person and mention ...

@rahuldottech Of course you could have googled all this yourself instead of wasting my time ...

rahuldottech

everything makes so much more sense now

DavidPostill

17:47

👿

rahuldottech

thanks, @dav

Hennes

18:43

Yup. that picture is what also comes to mind whenever anybody says Jelly to me.
Usually translucent.
No structure at all
Only artificial flavours

rahuldottech

yep

bertieb

19:01

So the hiss is there even without mic

and even if I set levels and gain to min

twiddling with levels causes tone shift

rahuldottech

@bertieb even w/o cable?

Take a q-tip and clean out the connector ports

If it remains, open up and clean PCB and all connections

djsmiley2k

>Efrati wrote last November that Bowers had responsibility for the Autopilot effort alongside AI expert Andrej Karpathy. Bowers focused on operational issues, while Karpathy was the technical lead.

no relation.

rahuldottech

@bertieb if you want, you can get isopropyl alcohol from a pharmacy/chemist and use it to clean the PCB

bertieb

@rahuldottech Even if I unplug the mixer's power I'm still getting it

djsmiley2k

@rahuldottech jam isn't really preserve....

:D

now that's really oing to confuse

rahuldottech

19:05

@bertieb walk me through your setup?

amp->mixer->mic?

djsmiley2k

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k yeh, this is accurate

djsmiley2k

@bertieb are you in the path of a very large radar dish?

I like jam.

bertieb

Behringer XM8500 -> XLR cable -> Xenyx Q802USB -> mobo USB in -> VM Banana

Oh, I have a thought

Windows' gain

djsmiley2k

holy biscuit tin, wtf is fruit butter o_O

> Fruit butters are similar to jelly as it is strained to remove any pulp. Pectin and other additives are sometimes blended in. Apple Butter for instance is Apple sauce in a more concentrated form. It is made by slowly cooking apples with water and cider as well as assorted spices to a point where the natural sugar found in the apples caramelizes. The concentrated sugar gives apple butter a much longer shelf life as opposed to apple sauce.

bwDraco

19:08

Ink-stained hands and another trash bag full of inky paper towels. That's right, decided to do some more cleaning inside my printer :p

rahuldottech

@bertieb what if amp gain is turned up but there's nothing connected to it?

bertieb

Playing with Windows gain settings on the USB input device (Xenyx mixer) affects the noise, but I think turning it down enough will make me inaudible...

@rahuldottech Will try

bwDraco

It's simply amazing how much ink accumulates in the printhead servicing station.

bertieb

At the mo I have the mixer/amp unplugged and still getting noise if I turn Windows input levels past 50 or so

rahuldottech

@bertieb from what?

bertieb

19:10

In fact, 50 is pretty much the point just before it becomes audible

jeea

Hello I wanted to know the optical drive in inspiron 5570 is sata 2 or sata 3, because I wish to install an additional ssd on that drive, and that ssd is sata 3 but if optical drive is sata 2 then its a waste of sata 3 ssd

Thanks!!

bertieb

@rahuldottech From power, sorry

rahuldottech

@bertieb no, as in

where's the buzz coming from?

If you have the amp disconnected from power?

bertieb

@rahuldottech That's what i'm not sure of :s

djsmiley2k

@bwDraco sounds like your printer is just really wasteful

it's almost like they want you to buy more ink :O

bertieb

19:11

USB noise? I remember many many years ago I had an issue with noisy USB headphones

djsmiley2k

@bertieb I don't want you to be inaudible

ooooooooooooooooooo

rahuldottech

@bertieb what is your PC connected to?

djsmiley2k

phantom noise from em

earth that usb shielding D:

bwDraco

@djsmiley2k It's because I've had it for several years and have had to do more printhead cleanings than should be necessary.

bertieb

@rahuldottech Multi-outlet adapter

and, well,

the one ring/breaker in my house that seems to supply everything

rahuldottech

19:13

wait, buzz coming from the PC? Not any speakers?

bertieb

@rahuldottech Ah, right, got you now

I am listening to the input via VM banana

rahuldottech

Ahh okay

bertieb

I can direct input straight to output (headphones)

rahuldottech

so PC->Speakers?

bertieb

Sorta

I can see the noise is there in VM banana's level monitor even if I wasn't using my ears to hear it

if you know what I mean

rahuldottech

19:14

ahhh

VM banana is software, right?

bertieb

I could actually stream all this on Twich, in fact, if it would help

djsmiley2k

I have to ask, wtf is VM Banana?

bertieb

@rahuldottech Correct

@djsmiley2k Software mixer

djsmiley2k

ooo

bertieb

An awesome, free softrware mixer

I will be donating to them when I start work

djsmiley2k

19:15

<< linux user :P

bertieb

Because it's so incredibly useful

Ya

I only use it under Windows when I'm streaming

rahuldottech

@bertieb Seems unlikely that it's a hardware issue if it shows up on a software mixer

bwDraco

When the printer cleans its printhead, it basically forces more ink through the nozzles, dumping it into the servicing station. On some high-end business and photo printers, there's a replaceable waste ink tank, but this printer simply dumps all ink into the servicing station, and it's supposed to last the life of the printer. (HP PageWide printers have the waste ink tank inside the duplexer, a replaceable part.)

rahuldottech

@bertieb you stream stuff? :o

bertieb

@rahuldottech Mm, more that the software mixer lets me hear/see it

@rahuldottech lol yes, like all the time :D

rahuldottech

19:16

@bertieb games?

bertieb

@rahuldottech Yup

Mostly coop stuff, but I do the occasional solo as well

rahuldottech

@jeea Your best bet is looking at a service manual, but fwiw, sata 3 is backwards compatible

bertieb

At this point I wonder if '50' on Windows input is 0db

rahuldottech

@bertieb ahh, I had no idea

@bertieb I'm really seriously considering the xenyx Q802USB, if it worth it, do you think?

bertieb

And any less/more is software attenuation / amplification

rahuldottech

19:18

@bertieb Hmm want me to check on my machine?

djsmiley2k

i'mma stream rocket league

bwDraco

Of course, even if you never run into trouble, the printer does a full cleaning each time you replace one or more ink cartridges...

bertieb

@rahuldottech I am extremely bad at self promotion

@djsmiley2k Ill join you in a bit if you want a teammate?

Like, extremely bad at self promotion

djsmiley2k

@bwDraco so.... planned obsolescence, nice.

Sure

rahuldottech

@bertieb haha

djsmiley2k

19:18

:D

bertieb

@rahuldottech If it's convenient, that would be handy, please

@rahuldottech I like it, but only really use one input at the mo

I'm going to see how I sound at 0db

rahuldottech

@bertieb I'm not too busy rn, sure. You want me to check with VM banana?

bertieb

Err, '50'

@rahuldottech No need to install that, don't want to mess up your sound settings

OTOH, it's freaking awesome

CHAT STAHP SLOWIN ME DOWN

rahuldottech

@bertieb I don't really have any non-default sound settings, it's cool

bertieb

You can perform this action again in 8 seconds.

I type fast

-.-

rahuldottech

19:21

ooh, til VM banana supports ASIO

that's neat

bertieb

@rahuldottech Can take a bit of thinking to get head around it is only thing

At least it did for me

input/output wise

bwDraco

@djsmiley2k It's a... medium-duty office printer. It's capable of doing a maximum of 30,000 pages per month but is recommended for 250 to 1,500 per month.

bertieb

I think the Windows stuff may have sorted it

possibly

I'll check with friends when they're next able to join mumble

XKCD

Psychology researchers say our 'flashbulb' memories of big events can be unreliable, but I clearly remember watching live on CNN as Challenger crashed into and destroyed the Berlin Wall.

bwDraco

(if you're doing tens of thousands of pages per month, you need a printer designed specifically for high-volume printing)

rahuldottech

19:23

@bertieb sooo I restarted to finalize install and windows started updating...

@bwDraco I do maybe ~150 pages a month, max

And my five year old printer is doing pretty great

bertieb

@rahuldottech See ya in a few months then ;-P

@djsmiley2k Helps if I sign into Steam, derp

rahuldottech

@bertieb LTSB, so updates should be faster, lol

bwDraco

Three years old with 5,183 pages on it so far.

> First Installation Date (Y-M-D) 2016-03-08

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Wanna create a party?

djsmiley2k

oh god there's 4 of us

bertieb

19:26

@djsmiley2k In the party? :'D

Or are you playing Chaos mode?

djsmiley2k

eeewww

my bro is champ btw

bertieb

I just dropped off C1

djsmiley2k

:O

bertieb

But that's a bit higher than my natural talent

So to speak

Prolly around a D3

rahuldottech

@bertieb so I'm back

bwDraco

19:34

@rahuldottech Right now I'm doing about 30-50 pages a month, but it get the occasional large print job.

djsmiley2k

my bro just doin his network test.

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Sure

djsmiley2k

as audio playing up in the party

bertieb

My fundamentals aren't awful but my wall-fu is less than stellar

bwDraco

When I first got this HP Officejet Pro 8630, I ran well over a hundred pages a month on it, with high ink coverage (printing lecture slide decks, four per page, double-sided).

bertieb

19:36

Not on Twitch?

rahuldottech

@bertieb hmm default windows volume control doesn't work with VM-B?

djsmiley2k

@bertieb you hit the ball \o/

bertieb

@djsmiley2k lol

djsmiley2k

wow we're pro

bertieb

@rahuldottech I was testing physical device itself

djsmiley2k

19:38

well this is going well :D

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Your bro is Champ?

That sounded less accusatory in my head

djsmiley2k

not in rumble

he's just grumbling now

rahuldottech

@bertieb ah, menu > hook vol controls did it

djsmiley2k

and i'm like..... if they score before the weapons are active, that's no excuse lol

rahuldottech

I WANNA PLAY WITH YOU GUYS

But I don't own a legit copy of Rocket League, and haven't played it in years anyway

djsmiley2k

19:42

@bertieb FF!

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Waaay ahead of ye :P

djsmiley2k

maybe I should call you via riot hahaha

bertieb

@djsmiley2k No Riot on Win :P

djsmiley2k

on my phone :P

bertieb

@rahuldottech It's great fun :D

rahuldottech

19:43

@bertieb I'm jealous

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Sure, my [social security] number is...

djsmiley2k

hmmm i can't private chat you :D

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Do you see party chat?

djsmiley2k

yus

bertieb

Ah kewl kewl

djsmiley2k

19:53

tho i only noticed it when you said so

bertieb

Wasnt sure

djsmiley2k

:@D

u go play with my bro

i'm coughing up a lung

bertieb

Oh dear

There's a lot of colds going around at the mo

djsmiley2k

this has come on really sudenly, tis weird.

bertieb

20:10

Sounds unpleasant

to say the least

Ah, excellent

No longer have to wait 10s between chat messages

bertieb

20:44

Ah, RL was good fun

djsmiley2k

:)

bertieb

Think I've got the mic noise sorted too

Thanks for the help with that!

Will wait and see if people complain I am too quiet :D

djsmiley2k

>

our payment of £20.77 will be sent to the Paypal account

This is some seriously good stuff

bertieb

Nice one

Michael Frank

@bertieb Must be global, I've been off for 3 days this week because of a cold. Everyone in the house has one at the moment.

bertieb

20:54

@MichaelFrank I had one this week, Burgi had one last week or so

Me mum has one

Me nephew

I'm not sure if anyone has escaped its wrath at this point?

DavidPostill

21:08

Cold free here

😀

djsmiley2k

/me sends bad feelin's to @DavidPostill

bertieb

@DavidPostill Now you've tempted fate :P

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