Root Access

Michael Frank

03:03

@JourneymanGeek Yea, totally. Even though the tutorial he found was literally the documentation.

Journeyman Geek

03:16

That's the best sort

Aibobot

04:39

@JourneymanGeek backreference.org/2012/10/07/… bit of light reading....

Bob

07:29

@Aibobot lol. think I was looking at policy based routing recently-ish

Journeyman Geek

07:46

@Bob also the multi homed network stuff

Bob

@JourneymanGeek that too, there's a standard way of configuring it on edgeos

Journeyman Geek

Diy/unusual setup ;p

Bob

lol

Burgi

08:04

morning

Journeyman Geek

@Bob also least for now my blog's kinda the definitivish source of info. Even if a good chunk of the additional stuff like ipv6 is on SU

djsmiley2k

08:20

Mornin @Burgi

djsmiley2k

09:20

hahaha python's difflib has failed me

> IPv4 Firewall IP Address Ranges

-104.146.128.0/17,104.215.11.144/32,104.215.62.195/32,104.42.230.91/32,104.44.218.128/25,104.44.254.128/25,104.44.255.0/25,104.47.0.0/17,13.106.4.128/25,13.106.56.0/25,13.107.128.0/22,13.107.136.0/22,13.107.140.6/32,13.107.18.10/31,13.107.3.0/24,13.107.6.152/31,13.107.6.156/31,13.107.6.171/32,13.107.64.0/18,13.107.7.190/31,13.107.9.156/31,13.70.151.216/32,13.71.127.197/32,13.72.245.115/32,13.73.1.120/32,13.75.126.169/32,13.80.125.22/32,13.89.240.113/32,13.91.91.243/32,131.253.33.215/32,132.245.0.0/16,134.170.116.0/25,134.170.165.0/25,134.170.172.128/25,13…

spot the difference D:

Journeyman Geek

Oo

djsmiley2k

yeah, not very helpful xD

Bob

@djsmiley2k I usually prefilter with a split on the ,

intraline diff rarely works well

djsmiley2k

10:45

@Bob hmmm

I need to compare the list of ip's, to another list of ip's

not to see if each indivisual one matches. make sense?

If one is 'new', then it's going to offset every single other one?

djsmiley2k

10:59

I guess I could split the 'new' ip's on ,, then search the old string for them, as a substring

highlighting/echoing out any which aren't found.

Bob

11:14

@djsmiley2k most diffs are smart enough to realise a line has been inserted and don't highlight the ones after

now, if the order of the rest are shuffled around... well, you could always run both sides through a sort first

djsmiley2k

That would also work yes

but i don't care about the ones which haven't changed :D

Oh right, they wouldn't show in a diff if on new lines, right

Bob

alternatively, find a good intraline diff tool

I think winmerge worked

never found one for linux

djsmiley2k

well this is all cli

it'll just email me eventually.

Bob

oh, scripted?

then just split, sort and diff

Yuv_is_here

11:38

Hi

whoa what happened to my username

djsmiley2k

11:53

I don't know, what happened to it?

Journeyman Geek

12:25

It's a soooccckkkkkk

Question is why? ;p

rahulatschool

13:11

Okay I'm back

With my proper username

@JourneymanGeek Has been discussed here before?

Journeyman Geek

Oh it's fine as long as you don't actually pretend to be 2 people

rahulatschool

Yeah, I don't do that

Twisty Impersonator

14:07

Anyone experiencing problems accessing sites backed by CloudFlare? I'm running into multiple sites that aren't accessible, and this is happening across ISPs as well. Ironically, I'm not able to get to downforeveryoneorjustme.com either.

rahulatschool

@TwistyImpersonator works for me

@TwistyImpersonator cloudflarestatus.com

Twisty Impersonator

Indeed...looks like it is a CloudFlare issue. Some of the sites I was having trouble are accessible now.

rahulatschool

14:33

reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/c834og/…

oh god

Journeyman Geek

14:59

@TwistyImpersonator apparently folks are aware and are throwing appropriately off produce at people to get things fixed

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rahuldottech

16:03

1. https://www.amazon.in/Western-Digital-WDS240G2G0A-240GB-Internal/dp/B076Y374ZH/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=ssd&qid=1562083218&s=gateway&sr=8-3
2. https://www.amazon.in/Western-Digital-WDS240G1G0A-240GB-Internal/dp/B01MDM3WI5/ref=sr_1_19?keywords=ssd&qid=1562083218&s=gateway&sr=8-19
3. https://www.amazon.in/Kingston-SSDNow-Internal-SA400S37-240GIN/dp/B079TH8YZQ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=ssd&qid=1562083218&s=gateway&sr=8-5
4. https://www.amazon.in/Western-Digital-250GB-Internal-WDS250G2B0A/dp/B073SB2MXW/ref=sr_1_15?keywords=ssd&qid=1562083218&s=gateway&sr=8-15

@bwDraco Except the WD blue, all are in my budget. Tell me which one to go for?

I'd go for the Blue if you tell me that it's really worth the price, but then I won't be purchasing a second drive for raid 1

rahuldottech

16:34

Also thinking of getting maybe aliexpress.com/item/…

bwDraco

The hard part is the fact that the only drive that isn't DRAMless is the WD Blue. I'm wondering if you're willing or able to save up any more money...

djsmiley2k

I wouldn't do raid1.

bwDraco

(consider the SanDisk Ultra 3D, which is functionally identical to the WD Blue?)

rahuldottech

@bwDraco Is DRAMless really that bad?

bwDraco

What is the application?

rahuldottech

16:44

1. Boot disk for Windows - general everyday tasks
2. Webserver (HTTP, FTP) for testing - nothing _too_ heavy, hopefully

@djsmiley2k why not?

djsmiley2k

because likelihood of losing data increases, for little benefit.

bwDraco

@djsmiley2k You're thinking of RAID 0. RAID 1 ls less likely to lose data.

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k no, that's the opposite of what it does

djsmiley2k

oh wait, yeah mirror not strpe.

still

raid1 = delete two disks full of data in the time it'd take you to nuke 1!

rahuldottech

with RAID 1, both drives have are exact mirrors

@djsmiley2k It's not like they have different data tho. If I'm going for entry-level drives, I'd like to have something that protects me in case of a drive failure.

djsmiley2k

16:48

does it stop you nuking your own data?

because in my experience, that's 10x-100x more likely than a drive failure nuking it.

Shall we do a poll? :D

Vote: Who has nuked their own data accidently, vs loosing it to drive failure?

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k I also plan on having scheduled HDD backups!

djsmiley2k

I've nuked my own 3 times I think, and seen one failed disk.

@rahuldottech ok good, where are they stored?

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k I have actually never nuked my own data, but have lost quite a bit to multiple drive failures.

(recovering was not fun)

djsmiley2k

wow, sucks to be you then, you appear to be an anomaly. :D

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k ...in the same house?

djsmiley2k

16:50

@rahuldottech but not on the same disk right?

Raid is for making sure you can keep working, while replacing said disk

it's not a backup, it's not a safety net other than the above.

bwDraco

17:03

@djsmiley2k s/oo/o/ (yes, this can be confusing)

djsmiley2k

i keep typoing that

Canadian Luke

17:21

The 0 and 1 in RAID means how many copies of your data you have left if a hard drive fails.

If you want a good backup routine, check out my blog

rahuldottech

@CanadianLuke linky?

@bwDraco so are the DRAMless drives okay for my use cases?

Fwiw, I can afford two WD blues, but I'm currently trying to save as much money as I can

Canadian Luke

@rahuldottech talk-about-it.ca/backups (for backups); talk-about-it.ca/… (Growing a RAID 1 to a RAID 10)

rahuldottech

@bwDraco I'll only get them if you think the additional money is really worth the increased performance

@CanadianLuke thanks, I'll check 'em out now

@djsmiley2k yeah, on separate drives of course

Canadian Luke

As well, for RAID, if you're going for Western Digital, I'd recommend the RED drives (home user for NAS-style applications) or the RE drives (RAID edition; I think they're called Gold now). One thing that sets them apart is that if a disk-read failure happens, it won't freeze your OS for 30-120 seconds; it'll fail quickly so everything else still runs

rahuldottech

@CanadianLuke isn't RED HDDs?

I'm looking for SSDs rn for raid. Will then later purchase HDDs for backups

bwDraco

17:37

@rahuldottech @CanadianLuke is right. WD Red is for NAS with a Red Pro variant for large storage arrays. WD Gold is for datacenter use (this brand is now discontinued; use HGST Ultrastar instead).

Canadian Luke

Ahhh, I missed that you were using SSDs

In that case, RAID 1 is best if you are purchasing 2

But remember, you'll be thrashing two devices at once with writes. Just something to keep in mind

rahuldottech

@bwDraco WD RED is majorly out of my budget

Okay just tell me if price:performance makes sense for WD blue over green.

Canadian Luke

Use Blue if you want it to run faster. Green is the low end of the spectrum for performance/speed

rahuldottech

@CanadianLuke both rated for 6 GB/s on Amazon?

(I'm really not sure what the number even means here though)

bwDraco

17:53

@rahuldottech That's the speed of the interface, not necessarily what the NAND or controller can actually do.

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Funny you should ask

I was going to ask what the failure mode of an SSD looks like

Was seeing a friend today

Therir computer wouldn't wake up from sleep, just black screened, wouldn't boot

BIOS won't recognise the SSD

changing cables didn't help

So I got my laptop and a USB-SATA adapter

No luck there either

Concluded SSD is gubbed

How common is that for an SSD failure? I've not yet had an SSD fail on me

rahuldottech

@bwDraco ah okay. I'm thinking I'll go for the blue then. It'll mean saving up a bit more than usual for the next month, but I can deal with that

Also have the graphics card purchase coming up

bwDraco

I'd prefer to have one good SSD rather than two poor ones.

rahuldottech

@bwDraco so you approve of the blue?

I'm actually thinking I'll just get two.

bwDraco

WRT WD Blue 3D... I have a 1 TB SanDisk Ultra 3D (functionally identical to the WD Blue) as one of the three SSDs in Astaroth. If it's good enough for Astaroth, it's going to be good enough for you.

Canadian Luke

18:13

Yes, 6 GB/s is the speed of the interface, not necessarily the speed you'll get data at. When they were spinny drives, the greens would be in power save mode until called upon, then be anywhere from 5400 RPM to 7200 RPM; the Blues would wake faster, and lean more towards the 7200 RPM constantly

On a more personal note... I forgot to enable ICMP on one of my remote servers this weekend, so Nagios kept reporting it as down (since PING wouldn't return)

That's now fixed

bwDraco

19:24

twitter.com/year_progress/status/1146025732805681153

headdesk

Canadian Luke

LMAO

Michael Frank

20:43

Apparently people freak out when it's halfway through a year...

Canadian Luke

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