Root Access

rahuldottech

09:21

dev.bonfire.stackoverflow.com/beta-access

Wtf. @JourneymanGeek do you know anything about this?

Journeyman Geek

Nope

rahuldottech

Hmm.

Oh apparently SO teams also get access to their own SO chat rooms? That's really cool.

Journeyman Geek

that's also new to me

and I'm on a team

granted one that actually has had its own chatroom before it even got a team

also, the CM team probably knows I'm an enthusiastic proponent of chat

so if I needed to know, I would ;)

djsmiley2k

12:32

/me looks in, yawns and thinks about getting on with some sorting

rahuldottech

12:44

reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/bn38pp/…

Oww

djsmiley2k

12:55

lol wut

So much more to this than op has stated, because either they don't know, or they know but it would show how stupid this whole thing is.

Still, derp

Bob

> It’s been mentioned on this and other related subs: there are law firms who do nothing other than sue oracle on behalf of its customers.

lmao

djsmiley2k

infact... if the key wasn't written back to disk

maybe.... none of the data ever has been either

and.... that db is just screwed.

this is a fun failure type i've seen on 'enterprise' raid cards.

rahuldottech

13:10

> ...(it’s probably handling a Hacker News traffic spike as you read this ;-). To use...

This is so annoying! The emoticon doesn't close the parentheses!

3

bwDraco

16:04

roar

rahuldottech

16:23

@MichaelFrank Font face in the terminal is "Cascadia Code"

You can see it in the JSON file @ 17:25

djsmiley2k

Moved the shrimp tank...

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k To the perfect place to f**k over your PC when it develops a leak. Water and PCs do not normally behave well together :)

djsmiley2k

haha the PC is far enough away

the PS4 however... ius screwed

it's not leaked, infact none of my tanks have, so IU'm happy enougu

woo the waters starting to clear

rahuldottech

16:44

I often see people downvote questions on SU simply because they mention running Windows XP, with snarky comments about how "you shouldn't even be using XP anymore". Except that, sometimes users may not have a choice.

Maybe it's a work PC that they can't do anything about. Maybe their hardware can't support anything newer and they can't afford an upgrade. Maybe they're still on XP due to software compatibility reasons. Maybe they like tinkering with old OSs.

Just because they're on XP doesn't mean that they don't deserve a solution to their problem. It's still a valid and on-topic question

barlop

17:00

Do phones often have an issue whereby if you make a video where when you turn the video on it is like looking through glass like seeing through your phone, then you get a higher resolution like 1280x720. Whereas if making it so the phone is like a mirror then the video is like 640x480?

rahuldottech

17:42

Microsoft Throws in the Towel on UWP, Elevates Win32

Journeyman Geek

17:54

@rahuldottech some folks do have a bit of an entitled attitude over that + support is dropped on many things on older oses

+ security

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek I understand why they have that attitude, but it's still wrong. Earlier today saw (what seemed like to me) a completely legit question in the close votes review queue just because apparently too many people thought it was not okay to ask about firefox issues on XP.

But if they'd just completely omitted that they're on XP, I'm sure it would've been received differently

Journeyman Geek

And have been potentially unanswerable?

bertieb

Running software on an unsupported platform can have... various issues

rahuldottech

@bertieb Ay, but doesn't this website exist to help with such issues?

@JourneymanGeek Nothing unanswerable about it

bertieb

If it's an answerable issue

There used to be a 'too localised' close reason

I'm not saying it should be reinstated

But there's a limit to what is reasonably practicably answerable

rahuldottech

18:01

Like I said. Doesn't apply to the question I'm talking about.

bertieb

I'm not saying that the Q you saw in the queue should be closed, just there can be reasons

See, that's the difficulty with such discussions

you have a very clear idea of the question in your head, having read it

I'm talking fairly broadly, because I haven't

rahuldottech

I'm just saying blindly flagging and downvoting a question just because it mentions XP is a bad idea.

That's all. Otherwise obviously you should judge it just like you would any other.

bertieb

That's slightly different to what you were saying before ;-P

and really, that sentence doesn't need the XP clause

rahuldottech

@bertieb How so?

bertieb

regardless, a comment on the Q itself to other reviewers will likely do more good than posting in chat

rahuldottech

18:08

@bertieb I'm just discussing here. Feel free to ignore.

bertieb

@rahuldottech because that statement is prima facie correct

rahuldottech

@bertieb Sigh. I know. I'm just saying that people don't do what they should when they see XP mentioned.

bertieb

@rahuldottech My intention was to suggest a course of action more likely to do have an effect on the outcome, rather than dissuade discussion

However I get the impression I'm annoying you

as you've posted sighs in response to folks before

rahuldottech

@bertieb I get it. If I'm posting about it here, it's because I want others' thoughts on the matter

@bertieb Nah, I appreciate the responses. Nothing you've said doesn't make sense.

(okay maybe verrrrry slightly annoying ;p)

@bertieb Huh. I have?

bertieb

Ah, the sigh suggested otherwise

Yes, although chat search won't let me search for an @

Anyhoo

rahuldottech

18:14

@bertieb chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=sigh&user=146966&room= Hmm. Few, if any, are in the "annoyed/exasperated" context

But yeah let's talk about something else.

bertieb

I think the annoyance may be because we're talking at cross purposes

Sep 20 '18 at 0:32, by rahuldottech

@MichaelFrank sigh

rahuldottech

@bertieb Yeah, but I wasn't annoyed. I just didn't want to type all that again

bertieb

Yes, that's understandable, I do get that

Just... if someone asks about your personale circumstances it's because they care about you or are invested in you or however you want to phrase taking a friendly interest in someone

if you sigh in response to that, it gives negative feedback to that person

maybe it's a cross-cultural thing?

Not a huge deal, but it may give a different impression to what you intend

rahuldottech

@bertieb I get the feeling you're reading wayyy too much into this? It's something I'd actively been talking about and had already explained to multiple users here when they asked the question. I immediately did give Micheal a link where he could catch up.

But yeah. Maybe a cultural thing.

bertieb

@rahuldottech It's possible! However, text chat by its nature omits any body language, intonation or sub-vocal cues, so if someone takes the time to put that into their messages it says to me that they want me to pay attention to that

rahuldottech

18:21

@bertieb Mhm. Point taken.

bertieb

@rahuldottech Fab :)

Gonna make myself feel old here but anyway... when I was your age (wince) I had a few communication tendencies that gave people the wrong impression

And, looking back, I'm quite grateful / lucky folks pointed these out to me

I'm not saying this is the same thing

Just sometimes thing can seem contrary to how they should

rahuldottech

@bertieb Ah, makes sense. I get where you're coming from. Do point out if you think I'm doing that.

bertieb

(see, this is where I feel the need to over-explain in case you get the wrong impression... what if he thinks I'm lecturing him? or being condescending? or worse, things I'm making a big deal about a communication issue?? ohgawdsthiswasonlymeanttobeatinyobservationbutnowI'mintoodeep)

@rahuldottech Will do 👍

rahuldottech

> what if he thinks I'm lecturing him? or being condescending? or worse, things I'm making a big deal about a communication issue?

Nah man. I appreciate it.

bertieb

I'm relieved!

Perhaps I'm bit notched up because I have another exam on Monday

Although I'm fairly relaxed about it, it's still an exam

Yeah, bertieb, let's say the word exam a few more times, that'll surely help

So, changing the subject as suggested about ten minutes ago

Remember the dodgy-yet-surprisingly-well-made knockoff PS3 controller I bought a while back?

For some reason when I have it plugged in, my computer will sometimes fail to boot

UEFI/Linux/Windows

Think it's causing issues when UEFI/OS is trying to enumerate devices?

djsmiley2k

18:41

damnit i wanna run firefox on my cray!

and moan about it!

rahuldottech

@bertieb Good luck!

Argh I've been trying to write this piece of code for months
It's like a 40 line thing
But I keep putting it off because I know it's going to require lots of testing and debugging
Arghghghghghgh

djsmiley2k

If the issue is reproducable on any other platform, then the question is fine

what's the code 'do' ?

rubber duck it with me, and you might see the 'light'

Journeyman Geek

also some of those questions can work out

but I'm half asleep and lack context

djsmiley2k

questions about mondern software on xp << context

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek half asleep because you haven't slept yet, or woke up super early?

Journeyman Geek

18:44

I've answered one or two in the past year

@rahuldottech night shift

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Aw. I've always found the ideas of night shifts fun. But maybe it's just because I like staying up late and doing fun stuff.

May not apply to jobs. Let's see

bwDraco

...welp. Now that I'm back home (see Matrix for details), let's get ready for some major renovations. We're putting in premium laminate flooring for the third floor, including both bedrooms (previously said hardwood, but laminate is the more practical choice).

Journeyman Geek

hmmm

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A: How can I get high quality YouTube on Windows XP with Firefox?

Amusingly enough, there's an unsupported plugin that works from adobe that works with a few about:config tweaks. Here it is on my disposable XP VM I'm running the latest build of firefox - 50.1.0, and as per the instructions here I enabled the primetime CDM - which while its supposed to be a ...

@rahuldottech 2 years ago, and support was dropped

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek niice

Why don't you just use Chrome, it's better anyway. 😁 — Trae Abell Jan 11 '17 at 5:06

Bad comment.

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech in context, yes

rahuldottech

18:47

There was a time when I would have said the same, but I actively try and avoid Google products now that I know better

Journeyman Geek

also chrome dropped support earlier

rahuldottech

See context: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19879572 in response to news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19866584

djsmiley2k

lol it's not bad because it recommends a google product >_<

Journeyman Geek

its bad cause chrome dropped XP support first

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k It is both wrong about Chrome being better (it's very subjective), and because of lack of XP support

Also, Google is evil. Oh the irony.

Journeyman Geek

18:49

Its not about evil though

djsmiley2k

evil is subjective.

Journeyman Geek

I mean, we're literally using a hidden, semi unsupported adobe plugin

djsmiley2k

ah the irony :D

Journeyman Geek

I can't even remember why I beat that into working and how I knew that would work

bwDraco

The problem is that XP is just not supported. There are very few reasons to continue using XP today.

Why should anyone use an OS that is nearly two decades old?

djsmiley2k

18:51

that's a badly phrased question

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco this is the very attitude Rahul was complaining about ;p

djsmiley2k

s/nearly two decades old\?/unsupported/g

Journeyman Geek

the unsupported is more important than the age

djsmiley2k

yus

and not just 'that's unsupported'

bwDraco

@djsmiley2k Question mark is reserved in regex, escape it.

djsmiley2k

18:53

but so unsupported, that 2 versions after it, are also unsupported

Journeyman Geek

and you might be stuck with specialised equipment that needs it

bwDraco

The best way to put it is "unsupported ancient technology".

djsmiley2k

i did wonder

@JourneymanGeek it's.... unlikely

that any home user, is going to be stuck, with equipment they have.... unless they were stephen hawking.

but this argument/discussion is as pointless, as fighting flags on chat.

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k or unwilling

djsmiley2k

the system is 'broken'

Journeyman Geek

18:54

if it works people will keep using it till it dies

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek then the answer of 'upgrade' is fully valid, even if they rejext it.

help my car keeps crashing into things

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k but not always practical

djsmiley2k

'stop driving at 100mph!'

bwDraco

lol

djsmiley2k

no, you fix it!!

Journeyman Geek

18:55

I needed to be a bit sneaky to get my dad on a newer OS

djsmiley2k

I have no patience for bullpoo.

hmmm

Journeyman Geek

(I upgraded my R61 to windows 10 and an SSD, lent it to him when he needed another laptop, then had him wonder why my laptop was faster than his....)

since it was the same model

It shipped with XP though it was vista era

I'm sure there's still machines running 98 in india

Even on the internet

as I so love to point out, we're kinda the early adopters and enthusiasts

SPEAKING of which

I'm trying to talk myself out of getting a lower end display/tablet thing

rahuldottech

> Maybe it's a work PC that they can't do anything about. Maybe their hardware can't support anything newer and they can't afford an upgrade. Maybe they're still on XP due to software compatibility reasons. Maybe they like tinkering with old OSs.
Just because they're on XP doesn't mean that they don't deserve a solution to their problem. It's still a valid and on-topic question

bwDraco

Hmm. Good point.

Journeyman Geek

Or their boss really hates them

rahuldottech

19:08

I know first hand just how many PCs in India still run XP. Everyone may not be as lucky or privileged as you are, and it's good to always keep that in mind.

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech that said "you can't" or "you are stuck with an older version" is a plausible answer

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Curiously enough the only time I've seen a PC running win 98 in the last decade was in a space museum in Hong Kong in '14.

Never seen one in India, although I'm sure there are quite a few running it.

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech I've been joking about firing up my late aunt's PC

it has a CRT

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Of course. But it's not nice to default to that each time it's about an old OS. It may also not be the right answer.

@JourneymanGeek Hah, I still have two really old PCs. One that ran '95. Belonged to my dad before I was born. The other is an old Compaq that ran XP. The first PC that I ever used.

I should restore them. Maybe sometime later this year.

djsmiley2k

19:41

:O

djsmiley2k

20:24

Yup, with the tank now in my eye line i'm thinking a new filter, and then get dwarf frogs again

they are awesome

bertieb

@rahuldottech They really really aren't

They mess with your body big time stylee

@rahuldottech Cheers! 👍

djsmiley2k

Night shifts are good for... money, for having random time off work when everyone else is working.... for being home to recieve a delivery sometimes....

not much else

For randomly questioning your existance at 4am

djsmiley2k

21:40

oi oi

Can anyone here explain how i'd load this 'user script' in chrome?

/me has no clue

reddit.com/r/AntimatterDimensions/comments/76aero/…

helps if i provided the link, right? :D

Ramhound

22:15

Can anyone check my math for me?

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I think I came to the correct conclusion...

galmeida

22:27

hey there. I've just installed win 10 in my ssd. As soon as it restarted, a screen was briefly shown so that I could chooose which windows to load (each in one volume: hdd and ssd). I didn't even get to choose it. Then it booted. But I don't know which one it boooted and since then the screen to choose which windows (ssd or hdd) didn't appear anymore. Then I couldn't perform the last step of formating de hdd where the old windows is. Can anyone help me?

rahuldottech

@galmeida if I understand correctly, your computer now boots from the SSD, and you want to format your HDD?

galmeida

#rahuldottech I think its loading the windos in SSDm but Actually I'm not sure which windows its loading

oops

I think its loading the windows in SSD, but actually I'm not sure. Yes, I want to thelete the inwdows in HDD but I'm not sure I can

Since it didn't offer me which windows to load after the first time

And the disk management shows the two volumes (SSD an HDD) as different. HDD has three partitions: EFI system, Primary Partition ("windows d:") and WINRE_DRV. And I don't know what this last parittion is

the ssd just has one partition "boot, page file, crash dump, primary partition"

the boot manager only shows one windows

rahuldottech

22:53

@galmeida open file explorer and go to "This PC"

The C drive is the one you're booting from. Simply right-click and format the other

Be sure to backup any important files first

galmeida

In the bios interface, in the boot order, it only shows "Windows boot manager WDC WD10SPZX-24z10' which is my hdd

doing your test I'm booting from SSD

I don't have any files, it a new laptop

why is BIOS not showing ssd?

galmeida

23:22

Can it be that the BIOS is just wrong and is atually booting from the SSD? Or it is possible that even though windowss files used are stored into the SSD the PC is actually using data on the HDD to boot the SSD windows?

galmeida

23:41

BIOS actually shows SSD in hard disk lists, but there is only a single entry on the boot options

William Mariager

Evening :)

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