Root Access

HackToHell

02:22

I opened a ssh window and ran an command(wget), I accidentally closed puTTy, now how do i see the progress of wget ?

Journeyman Geek

you can't

you close the window, the command ends

HackToHell

The command is till running, so is another bash, as I can see via ps aux

Journeyman Geek

you'd have to detach the command somehow for that - for example by using screen

o0

try fg

HackToHell

And wget ended, will try it next time

And i got myself locked out of the VPS 2 times already :/

Journeyman Geek

lol

how?

(you need to get used to the oddities of remote access)

HackToHell

02:32

I was setting up ssh to run on a different port, then configured the firewall. For some reason ssh would not run on that port

Second time, messed up with iptables

Journeyman Geek

lol

HackToHell

Also do these guys shout if you use max cpu for 30 minutes ?

Journeyman Geek

lol

never done that

I use it for mostly low cpu things

HackToHell

02:55

I am 7zipping Win 8 RC

Journeyman Geek

ahh

to save bandwidth?

Journeyman Geek

03:31

ugh

Is it just me or is arstechnica being REALLY slow

hmm

2

Q: Are there significant problems with the AMD FX Bulldozer processors?

I'm considering buying one, because of the great price. Though the advertised specs and features are enough to more than justify the price, some reviews and benchmarks I've read have a very 'mixed' feel about it. I'll use it for programming and and some heavy tasks on a Linux system, apart fro...

I can't decide if i should VTC this or not

er whut?

better

Paul

04:04

easter egg?

Am I late to some party?

Sathya

@Paul na

HackToHell

If anyone has sucky bandwith, here is Win 8 RC 7ziped, to 2.1 GB !! goo.hacktohell.org/lol.zip

p.s:it's a 400 mb improvement

Journeyman Geek

04:28

@Paul: tis just clippy

Oliver Salzburg

05:33

oh boy

win8 release preview

If I had known that, I'd have woken up sooner.

Sathya

3

Q: Editing OS-specific questions or answers if the question or answer will also apply to another OS

Possible Duplicate: Should the original intent of a question be broadened to make the answers more canonical? I recently found out that this question - How print multiple independent pages in one print job?, which is tagged with linux, and currently, its only answer, both also apply t...

discussion tags questions editing answers

meta question closed as exact dupe w/o Mod intervention. I'm surprised. And happy.

Oliver Salzburg

05:56

Cool :)

Off to work!

Bob

08:58

1

Q: What is the impact of running the CPU at 100% for long periods at a time?

I recently upgraded computers and with this upgrade I decided to try Seti@Home to run in the background. I was watching the CPU and monitoring how it works and when idle the CPU is running at 100% (due to Seti). But does drop down when I start to do things with the computer. With the CPU runnin...

cpu cpu-usage

How the heck did he get those temperatures?

jokerdino

Very much unlikely. Too low really.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: looking at her other questions would help

she asks a lot of n00b questions

Sathya

09:23

meta.superuser.com/posts/4921/revisions

lol

Journeyman Geek

XD

Bob

@Sathya :P

Journeyman Geek

Now i wish i had very low rep

then i can edit in "I totally agree with this, thank you!" ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Her profile says Boulder, CO, which is around 13 degrees Celsius, 12 min (55 degrees Fahrenheit). That's cold, but those CPU temperatures are still crazy...

I'm suspecting inaccurate monitoring tools.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: her fully loaded temperatures are pretty much what my systems run at day to day

Bob

09:25

@JourneymanGeek As I was saying :P

Journeyman Geek

they're still almost plausible

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The current ambient temperatures here are about the same as hers, and I'm at ~40 degrees C essentially idling - stock cooling.

If she can be under half that temperature... wow.

Journeyman Geek

o0

@Bob: i'm around that at 30 degrees ambient roughly, stock cooling

and nothing fancy (though my case shaves off about 5 degrees off the temperature the dell runs at ;p)

and i run the same idle temperatures you do

Bob

@JourneymanGeek My CPU temperatures are the same idle no matter what my ambient temperature is :P

It might go up to ~45 at 30-35 ambient

Journeyman Geek

lol. Our ambient temperature is stablish

Bob

09:33

@JourneymanGeek Completely depends on season here. Freeze in winter, roast in summer :D

Journeyman Geek

actually the main killer for me isn't temperature, its dust

Bob

@JourneymanGeek On dust, my case is odd. The front intake fan has a dust filter, but the side doesn't :\

Journeyman Geek

Its either hot, very hot, hot and wet, or places are flooded

5

Bob

I'm going to have to go buy a can of air at some point

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: my last one had the same..

but the dust filters disintegrated after a few years ;p

Bob

09:34

@JourneymanGeek o.O

Journeyman Geek

replaced it with felt. Not much temperature difference, quieter, and better dust resistance

Bob

Disintegrated?!

Journeyman Geek

thin foam like material

came apart to the touch

(also, the mesh seems to have rusted slightly. Prolly the sea breeze)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The side mesh on this is coated with dust... the front mesh, I can't feel any air movement. Probably a badly designed case with a fan too weak to drive air past the filter :\

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: old keyboard gunk or a vacuum cleaner works quite well

plus.google.com/photos/106187684082000485043/albums/… this is the last time i cleaned the case of the shared desktop

(took it apart totally, dusted everything, changed the filter to felt, blew out the heat sinks with a air can. Everything short of re-doing the heatsink ;p)

Sathya

09:48

@JourneymanGeek lololol. Sounds like my hometown

Journeyman Geek

@Sathya: I live right next to the ocean, and a very busy port, and something like 8 lanes of expressway and 8 lanes of normal road

Its hell on hardware

Sathya

wow

HackToHell

But since you are in a apartment, dust must be limited

Journeyman Geek

lol

I wish

I have to clean my stuff of dust at least weekly

HackToHell

lol That dusty ?

Journeyman Geek

09:51

yes

HackToHell

It must suck

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek sounds like the place where I am living XD

Journeyman Geek

lol

mostly with my laptop

(and most of my gear won't last more than 6-7 years total

Sathya

both @JourneymanGeek & @jokerdino are in S'pore right?

Journeyman Geek

of course, my views are coloured by the fact that most of the systems i have had have been PIVs and i didn't know of capasitor rot

jokerdino

09:52

Yeah :)

Journeyman Geek

oh?

XD

small world

I suppose i'm still number 1 in singapore and also JB ;p

jokerdino

Justin Bieber? eww

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: you know of the ubuntu sg mailing list?

pfft. PCK reference ;p

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek Don't think so. I can hunt for it if you need it though.

Journeyman Geek

naw

I'm on it

jokerdino

09:55

oh right. :P

Journeyman Geek

not hugely active at the moment, but they organise FOSDEM and other things

jokerdino

ooOOoo

me wants.

Journeyman Geek

LOL

AC boy...

I studied ACPS and ACS Barker

jokerdino

way to go man! AC FTW.

Sathya

I have 3 of my college classmates working at AMD in S'pore

32 secs ago, by Journeyman Geek

I studied ACPS and ACS Barker

expand

51 secs ago, by Journeyman Geek

AC boy...

Journeyman Geek

09:56

ACS = Anglo Chinese School

HackToHell

[username] is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. Wait this means that i am locked out again ?

jokerdino

Anglo-Chinese (Primary) school.

Journeyman Geek

there's two elementary schools, two high schools, a JC and... i lost track of the rest, all under the same family of schools

Sathya

ah

@HackToHell su root && <blargh>

Journeyman Geek

He's in the better one ;p

jokerdino

09:57

He thought it was a course?

Sathya

lol

Journeyman Geek

I kept going to the crappy ones

@HackToHell: no, the VM dosen't have sudo set up

jokerdino

lol i don't blame you ;P

Journeyman Geek

just use root + the password you registered with

@jokerdino: JC, applied for ACJC, went to pioneer ;p

then mucked up uni twice ;p

jokerdino

Journeyman Geek

09:58

and afk a bit, going to school

now now, what fun is life without a mispent youth ;p

jokerdino

lol, I only joined ACS (I) in 2009.

This is my graduation year.

HackToHell

@Sathya That ain't working

@JourneymanGeek i created my own user and usergroup

Sathya

@HackToHell su root isn't working?

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek hm you going back to school?

HackToHell

@Sathya Oh wait it's working, it elevates the bash to root doesn't it ?

Bob

10:01

Wouldn't it be possible (and possibly easier) to set up a VM as you want the VPS and upload it as an image?

Sathya

yes

HackToHell

okie, hack worked :)

i made a spelling mistake while adding user groups

btw thanks :)

jokerdino

0

Q: How to move tab title from top to bottom in gnome-terminal on Ubuntu?

I do love konsole on redhat, but now I have to work with Ubuntu. So I installed konsole on Ubuntu, but it seems not good since when I copy something by selecting, tail of the line are full filled with blank space. Too ugly! Although gnome-terminal doesn't have such problem, all tab names are pl...

ubuntu gnome-terminal

I found a 10 year old wish list bug report on that.

Sathya

@HackToHell that's not a hack.

sudo elevates, su switches the user.

HackToHell

@Sathya oh well, just referring to a command as one for fun ;p

tombull89

10:35

@Sathya, does SU have a policy on vendor-supported answers?

SF does - meta.serverfault.com/questions/3330/… - and reason for asking: superuser.com/questions/427361/problems-with-black-box-kvm

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: ya, doing my degree (again) ;p

@tombull89: as long as they're open about it

@Sathya: too many people who use ubuntu don't know about sudo

@Bob: I think the method the cheap VPSes do use some form of containers with fixed os options or something. If you went for KVM or one of the more costy options you can do that

@HackToHell: even if you're on ubuntu most VPSes make you have a root account. You can set up sudo if you want by adding yourself to the sudoers file with visudo

(got to class early ;p)

Sathya

11:43

@Bobby, the general network consensus is that users or accounts that represent a company are fine (as long as they are not spamming their product). If off-site discussion is needed then that would be fine, as long as the answer is posted here with how the solution was found and a link to the knowledgebase (if applicable). — tombull89 1 hour ago

your comment is closest to what we have as a policy

@JourneymanGeek yeah.. ye ol' days..

Journeyman Geek

hm

imgur seems to be acting up

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek :/ i know abt sudo, just not su ;p

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell:ya, cause you probably mainly use ubuntu

I started with suse

HackToHell

true, My first linux was ubunutu

Bob

@JourneymanGeek sudo su is a nice trick if you ever need a root terminal in Ubuntu (but something that should probably never be done :P)

jokerdino

11:54

@HackToHell Dude!! It's Ubuntu.

I rage when someone misspells Ubuntu. :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

HackToHell

Watever :P

Journeyman Geek

this is what happens when i get bored in class

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek that many apps open lol

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I know of it, some people use that in their instructions for some odd reason

HackToHell

11:56

@JourneymanGeek What are you doing with 7 in VMware player ?

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: oh, i use it for various things

I also want to test if i can install chrome remote in it for direct access

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Does VMWare Player come with an RDP server?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: no

but chrome remote seems snappy enough

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ah damn. Well, not like the VirtualBox RDP server is actually fast enough to do anything.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: actually, the latency on this is pretty impressive

Bob

11:58

It's smoother if I use the RDP server built into Windows inside the VM :P

Journeyman Geek

I can watch a video without a headache through chrome remote

Bob

@JourneymanGeek o.O

What's your latency to your home anyway?

Journeyman Geek

no idea

let me irc home to check ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ping?

Journeyman Geek

ping is turned off

irc server says ~0.4 seconds

(i irc in cause i can never remember my ip address ;p

Bob

12:07

@JourneymanGeek Ouch that's high (if it were ping, I'm not sure what's normal for IRC)

SgtOJ

What is the reason for closing this question?

Journeyman Geek

thats about normal

SgtOJ

0

Q: How to make a dial up connection disconnect automatically after downloading + uploading 90 MB data in Windows?

I am using a modem (ZTE USB Modem FFF1) to connect to internet and I want it to disconnect automatically after completing 90 MB (Downloaded data + Uploaded Data). Can anyone suggest how can I do this. I am using a desktop computer running on Windows 8 Consumer Preview. There's no router. I am usi...

internet windows-8-preview

Journeyman Geek

@SgtOJ: originally i VTCed due to lack of information

Bob

I randomly make those things when really bored :\

Journeyman Geek

12:08

lol

SgtOJ

Yes. I understand the user asked a similar question earlier... Which I honestly didn't know. However, it seem it's able to be answer now. Wouldn't you agree?

Journeyman Geek

@SgtOJ: he should improve his original question with more information

SgtOJ

I would have suggested reopening the original question if knew it was there before.

Journeyman Geek

then ask for it to be reopened the right way - say through meta

SgtOJ

What will happen to the 2nd question that I have already posted an answer to?

Journeyman Geek

12:10

ideally? They should be merged

but the original question needs to be noncrap

and the best way to handle this/making sure this happens is to post on meta

SgtOJ

Are we looking at the same thing? He is asking a for a utility to disconnected his connection after 90Mb has been used.

Journeyman Geek

yup. The issue isn't the question, the issue is he should have had more information, and edited it into the answer.

SgtOJ

Yes. I know. I will post a meta question in a moment. What I am trying to understand now is, what's the problem with the question in it's current form.

Journeyman Geek

see the other question ;p

the current one is almost passible

SgtOJ

I just the original question and its edits. The only thing I see a problem with, it was missing the OS. Which it seems he quickly edited to add.

Journeyman Geek

12:16

well, it was closed before it was, i suspect.

his attitude isn't helping

SgtOJ

Anyways, I just want to get a understand behind all this. For this is a new user who never asked a question before yet we treated him like crap when he was trying to ask, what seems like, a legit question.

Journeyman Geek

voting to reopen the old one, voting to close the new one, and flagging to merge

SgtOJ

Yeah... I am about to open a meta.

Journeyman Geek

@SgtOJ: Its just how things tend to work. We have far too many questions that require psycic powers

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek done, done, done

Journeyman Geek

12:26

XD

SgtOJ

It seems like I was too slow with my meta.

Journeyman Geek

@SgtOJ: Worth asking, especially with reference to meta.superuser.com/questions/4918/…

Sathya

fwiw @Sgt it was resolved independent of chat, I was going through the flag queue & then once I had a look here saw the convo

SgtOJ

@Sathya I see. The end result was all the same. Thanks.

Sathya

you're welcome. nice to see you back on site, @SgtOJ

SgtOJ

12:33

@Sathya lol. Thanks. I took a long break after I got back from Afghanistan.

jokerdino

Looks up

SgtOJ

@JourneymanGeek I agree with your comments about asking for more information in relation to that meta question you sent me.

@JourneymanGeek I would like to see more time given to user to understand and update the question with the information that is being requested.

Journeyman Geek

@SgtOJ: thing is closures arn't final

nor are downvotes...

course, if he asked the question again after that, he dosen't quite get how it works

SgtOJ

@JourneymanGeek I understand. Too me though, it seems a bit harsh to close a noob's question when he doesn't understand the site quite yet. If I was him, I would have went to somewhere else (if he hasn't yet). I'm just trying to look at it from his eyes, not ours. We understand how the site is suppose to work.

... but a new user doesn't.

Journeyman Geek

Well, now he has some idea

assuming he did stick around

SgtOJ

12:41

I do have a general question not related... What does OP stand for?

Sathya

@SgtOJ the assumption is that a new user should spend some time in understanding how the site operates.

SgtOJ

@JourneymanGeek lol

Sathya

if not for that, at least put in a proper question

granted, he did edit it and add the details

the pile-on effects can be quite bad at times

SgtOJ

@Sathya /agree

Sathya

and that's where mod flags can help, not just comments

Bob

12:43

@SgtOJ Original Poster

Sathya

anyhow, I rarely reject edits, but yeah, this goes into the rare category superuser.com/suggested-edits/11771

Journeyman Geek

lol

you have seen my greatest hits ;p

SgtOJ

@bob Thanks. I understand from context clues what it meant. I just wanted to know what it stood for. Thanks again.

Journeyman Geek

the one asking people to spam a site... and.. that other one

@SgtOJ: I feel VERY odd using it here

(we don't post. we ask questions. There's a difference ;p)

SgtOJ

@Sathya I don't even understand what he was attempting to do.

@JourneymanGeek I see. I just use user, for the most part.

Sathya

12:46

> Formatted the look of the edits; Fixed the grammar; Formatted the way the keyboard shorcuts appeared;

let's see - edits - redundant. I don't see any grammar fixes. Keyboard shortcuts remain the same :\

Journeyman Geek

edit rep farming ;p

Sathya

so yeah @SgtOJ I don't understand what he was trying :\

apart from what @JourneymanGeek said :P

chal, back later

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I sometimes use "asker" :P

Actually, I don't think I've ever used OP here.

Journeyman Geek

13:03

ahhhh

I made a mistake with my assignment

William Hilsum

Can anyone help me quick? I'm at work and my hard drive is frozen... What can I do?

jokerdino

Heat it a little?

Bob

@jokerdino Nonono, the water will kill it :P

SgtOJ

@WilliamHilsum That's a joke... right?

William Hilsum

What do you think!?

jokerdino

13:12

FYI, it's June 1st today.

William Hilsum

I know... I didn't have anything this year.. saved it and will do it next year!

jokerdino

Very well then :D

Bob

@WilliamHilsum Now I just have to know... did you actually do this yourself, or just grab the photo?

jokerdino

yesterday, by jokerdino

Use a mechanical fan dude!

Ooh, my message is starred.

SgtOJ

@WilliamHilsum Well, I know that you are one of the more knowledgeable ppl on SE so I was 99.9% sure you were joking... But then again, you never know.

William Hilsum

13:16

@SgtOJ hehe, lol, thanks!

jokerdino

@SgtOJ That's a joke... right?

SgtOJ

@jokerdino lol

jokerdino

just joking. I know Wil is awesome.

William Hilsum

:(

jokerdino

Owie. Willy shows his sadface.

Journeyman Geek

13:21

lol

William Hilsum

jokerdino

Is that really you? I wonder..

Journeyman Geek

freezing a hard drive is on the list of things i'll simultaneously be happy and scared to do

lol

very likely

William Hilsum

@jokerdino lol! It really is!

jokerdino

No way. I won't be fooled twice in the same day.

William Hilsum

13:27

But... had a hair cut now!

can do webcam if you know a broadcast site!?

I was going to take a new unhappy face!

jokerdino

tinychat.com might do?

William Hilsum

hmm.. no webcam on desktop

one second

jokerdino

but I'll take your word. You are very convincing.

and I have no webcam here. >.>

William Hilsum

I take it you are joking though... look at my icon! Have nothing to hide! :P

doing tinychat anyway - really wanted something like that before and didn't know it existed

tinychat.com/mqtdh

jokerdino

It looked like your brother of sorts. But I had a tiny little doubt that it could be you. Turns out that was the case.

You never seem to know about a lot of web services. You are missing out on a lot of fun.

I am just joking. I know you know too much. I am just trying to poke you :P

William Hilsum

13:43

hehe, I don't know a lot... I feel out of the loop for the past 6 or so months... Check my profile! I love my new job (why wouldn't I... even in that unhappy picture, I have a stack of 6 servers behind me and carrier grade equipment in the wall box!!!)... but, I have had no free time :(

HackToHell

:'( my new GPU is not running thanks to my sucky power supply unit :'( :'(

William Hilsum

right... I'm on camera here - tinychat.com/mqtdh ... Thanks, @jokerdino - Tinychat looks cool!

mind you, quite low quality image

jokerdino

I can't seem to connect from here. My school network seems to be blocking the stream.

HackToHell

If the computer never gets past POST, shuts down when the HDD is accessed, then the PSU is to blame or the GPU. I think it's the Power Supply unit because it sens only 11.5 v instead of 12v :'(

William Hilsum

oh well

hey... if I go to a different tab, then go back... the video goes really fast and catches up... quite funny!

jokerdino

13:47

last time I used, it was really buggy.

Bob

14:29

@HackToHell If it never gets past POST, how does it access the HDD? :S

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: the PSU is probably the easiest/cheapest thing to check

HackToHell

15:42

@Bob It gets past POST now

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, it must be the problem, I am highly dissappointed, it is a 400 W PSU

HackToHell

16:34

When cleaning up HDD

quickmeme.com/meme/3pjd23

2

lol

Boris_yo

19:13

@HackToHell lol what is this website? How did you find this?

iglvzx

19:59

This person is never going to find an answer. They are clueless/stubborn.

8

Q: Page(s) Unresponsive in Google Chrome

In Windows XP2, running Google Chrome (too long to responds), I often receive a message "Page(s) Unresponsive" asking me to either "kill pages" or "wait". I already reinstalled it, but the same problem persists. My PC specs: Intel P4 1.8GHz 1 GB Ram 64mb BGA 5 GB free HD space (In System ...

windows-xp google-chrome

@Boris_yo QuickMeme is a popular image macro generating and sharing site. It is used throughout the internet, especially social sites and forums.

Tom Wijsman

20:52

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Tom Wijsman

21:11

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Luke

21:25

ifixit.com/Tools/Coin/IF145-095

iglvzx

22:35

He needs a hug. :(

0

A: Should we answer based only on the information given or should we guess extra info?

You can attempt to ask for clarification, but that will sometimes get ignored. If you get clarification, then you can move forward. I initially answered questions based on what the underlying problem was, rather than the literal question that was asked... essentially assuming based on some of t...

Oliver Salzburg

This is my 200th day on SU \o/

iglvzx

@OliverSalzburg Consecutive? Your profile lists you as being a member for 2 years

Took me a while to get what Randolph was saying there:

Oliver Salzburg

@iglvzx In those 2 years, I visited SU on 200 days :D

iglvzx

The only way I've figured this out is arduous, but seems to work. Copy and paste to a new sheet. Set the entire pasted area to "text" format, then delete it, and paste in the values again. Bob's your aunty. — Randolph West 10 mins ago

Oliver Salzburg

131 consecutive

iglvzx

22:44

Oh. I see!

Good job! I've been here for: 225 days, 216 consecutive

You have more rep and badges than I. Well done. :)

SgtOJ

Take a look at...

0

Q: simple php file browser/editor to admin site

I have a simple static website I built.. but now other people have to edit it. Do you know of any simple php script that shows a browser of the files on the server, with a simple plain text editor? thanks

website php administrator text-editing

Look at the latest answer...

iglvzx

A spam bot was trying to implement a FORM? lol

SgtOJ

I know.

I flagged it.

I just wanted to get it to attention of someone so that it can be taken care of.

Oliver Salzburg

@iglvzx Thanks. I try my best :)

iglvzx

@SgtOJ I made their code properly formatted, as per community guidelines. :P

SgtOJ

22:53

I see the changes.... Am I wrong? Or, was the original post an attempt to add malicious code?

iglvzx

Correct!

SgtOJ

.... Damn I'm slow. Now I get what you said... and did.

Oliver Salzburg

(For our non-UK users, "Bob's your aunty" is an idiom which loosely translates to "and you're all set".) — iglvzx 20 mins ago

wow :D

iglvzx

Yeah. I didn't understand that at first

lol

I thought Randolph knew the OP or something

Oliver Salzburg

23:11

I've never heard that either. Thanks for the explanation :D

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