Root Access

bwDraco

12:14 AM

yesterday, by bwDraco

Windows 10 Pro lets you defer updates for specific periods of time.

rahuldottech

@bwDraco ehh

bwDraco

But ultimately, Microsoft needs to address these quality issues.

rahuldottech

@bwDraco oh wait. I can vote to close now!

Canadian Luke

1:23 AM

@rahuldottech Haven't you been able to Close to Vote for a while?

rahuldottech

7:29 AM

@CanadianLuke only since yesterday

Let me check your math: nat traversal + crypto + hard to find = no added benefit. So 1+1+1=0. yup you have a point, no added benefit. Sorry for the sarcasm but the vnc user forums are full of people who cannot setup port forwarding and dynamic dns. I am confident of my ability to do both and typically it takes me five to ten minutes to setup port forwarding (every device is different) and ten to thirty minutes to setup dynamic dns (captha, billing) It took me less than ten minutes to setup hidden services and most of that was checking to make sure I did it right, because I expected harder. — hildred 7 hours ago

wot m8

Top 5% this year → Top 0.51% this week → Top 0.23% this month

Sweet

Bob

8:03 AM

@rahuldottech you go do that. I'll keep using WSL and per-app audio devices on my perfectly stable system

rahuldottech

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@JourneymanGeek do you nuke answers for being utterly ridiculous?

djsmiley2k

8:52 AM

> Company Founder
Evil Technology Limited

wut

Journeyman Geek

9:22 AM

@rahuldottech usually no

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k linky?

@JourneymanGeek ugh ok still tho look at this mess superuser.com/a/1375131/432540

Journeyman Geek

9:41 AM

It's still an answer

djsmiley2k

:O someone wrong on the internet!

and it's technically correct.

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k utterly ridiculous tho

but whateva

Journeyman Geek

> flags should not be used to indicate technical inaccuracies, or an altogether wrong answer

;p

its literally a flag rejection reason

rahuldottech

okay then

Look! 45-44-43

Hm, this one might soon become my most-upvoted answer

djsmiley2k

11:04 AM

urgh I feel so ill :(

rahuldottech

11:15 AM

@djsmiley2k go sleep

djsmiley2k

@rahuldottech trying. Am at work :(

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k go home

djsmiley2k

12:05 PM

@rahuldottech got work to do :O

it's one of those annoying it's not bad enough to go home, but it's a rotter.

tho now it's lunch time \o/

Also I sense the strong irony in you telling me to go home and go to sleep :D

rahuldottech

It happened. This is now my most-upvoted answer

b_jonas

In Windows 10 File Explorer, if I pin a network folder to the favourites, that makes the File Explorer hang for minutes if the server for that network folder isn't accessible, even if I'm not trying to access that folder, just to render the previews in the tree. My current workaround is to just not pin that folder then. Do you happen to know a good workaround for this?

rahuldottech

@b_jonas Pin it when it's accessible ;)

oh

b_jonas

I guess I could try to put a shortcut somewhere other than the Favourites.

rahuldottech

@b_jonas Create a symbolic link to another folder, and pin that

b_jonas

12:20 PM

@rahuldottech Hmm... how do I create a symbolic link on windows 10, and would that really help?

71

Q: How to create a Symbolic Link on Windows 10?

Was reading http://www.dropboxwiki.com/tips-and-tricks/sync-game-saves-across-multiple-computers and I know junction/mklink worked in Windows 7 as well, but seems like the junction command has been retired in Windows 10. What's the correct way to make symlinks in Windows 10?

rahuldottech

@b_jonas It's a windows bug, I have no idea if it will help. Bug it's worth a shot

Alternatively, pin another folder, which has just a shortcut to the network folder

Only increases number of clicks required by one.

b_jonas

@rahuldottech I'm thinking to put the shortcut in the start menu instead.

rahuldottech

@b_jonas Okay then, good luck

b_jonas

I also have the analogous question for windows 7 by the way, because I'm using a windows 7 machine too (multiple windows 10 and windows 7 machines at work).

djsmiley2k

It's a dumb bug that's been there since like forever.

b_jonas

12:27 PM

Explorer has multiple strange bugs. It often hangs for minutes when either trying to access a network resource, or render a preview for something, or display the shortcut menu which has plugins contributing entries.

And sometimes it just gets in a strange state where either it crashes and restarts itself, or I must kill it and restart it manually, and I don't know what the triggers for those states are.

Last time I got it to a state where I could move a window vertically, but not horizontally, and eventually it crashed.

This is on windows 10, but windows 7 is similar.

I could disable previews, but network drives and plugins are trickier.

I wish the shortcut menu worked in a way where it tries to access the plugins (tortoisesvn, 7zip, and some antivirus thing) only if I open the relevant submenu, but it doesn't work that way

djsmiley2k

K mine isn't quite that bad

but the network drive in favorates causing explorer to go really slow is a common one.

b_jonas

@djsmiley2k Yeah, but at least for that I can just not put the network drive in the favourites.

I've already removed the ones I put there.

djsmiley2k

Their dropping like flies, won't be long before it's time for a General Election lol

Vogel612

1:42 PM

Heya folks. I have a question in the making that I think is on topic here, but I'm not 100% sure

Horn OK Please

@Vogel612 hit us with it!

Vogel612

To cut to the chase: My PSU fan died and I replaced it with a case fan, but the case fan had three pins and the PSU fan only two

so I took the power for the case fan, and plugged it into the usual case fan spot instead of plugging it in at the PSU's internal fan provision

Basically I wanna ask how stupid of an idea that is

Is that even on-topic here?

Horn OK Please

I don't think it's a well-formed question. "How stupid is this idea?" isn't really on-topic anywhere on SE AFAIK.

Obviously, if it works, it's a hack but, well... it works. What else can be said about it? And if it doesn't work then it's obviously a bad idea.

I'm not sure what else can be said about it really :S

Vogel612

The problem I have is that if it doesn't work, I probably fried my PSU or my PC

It boots and the fan runs, but I don't have the foggiest whether it runs the way it should...

Horn OK Please

unless you have one of those super fancy PSUs that monitors its own temperature like the Corsair AX series, you probably won't know if you need a faster/bigger fan due to insufficient cooling, but as long as it runs I don't see the problem

obviously it would be bad if your fan had an electrical short into one of the rails of the PSU, but that would be true even if you had the stock fan in the PSU connected internally, so I don't think you're at any particular risk of electrical shock more than usual

just don't short things on purpose and the natural insulation of the fan housing not being made out of copper should take care of the rest

Vogel612

1:49 PM

that seems like a good answer. Thanks :)

Now I need to find the right question to ask, so you can copy-paste that into an answer and get some rep for it :)

Horn OK Please

if you have configurable fan speeds on your motherboard and you've got the fan hooked up to the mobo, maybe run it at a higher RPM just to be safe.

djsmiley2k

yeah

you want to be REALLY careful opening up PSU's tho

there's caps in there that WILL KILL YOU if you accidentally discharge them.

Horn OK Please

sounds like he's already completed the fan replacement so that's probably a moot point if he doesn't go back in there and play around with it

djsmiley2k

Nod

Horn OK Please

"the fan runs" - I would basically stop investigating at this point because the PSU likely doesn't need anything more than a nominal airflow

djsmiley2k

1:51 PM

but knowing it, may mean he doesn't do it in the future.

Horn OK Please

unless it's like 1500W and you're using a significant amount of that. then maybe.

Vogel612

I learned capacitors don't keep charge for terribly long

Horn OK Please

but if your actual power draw is typical with like a single GPU and a few HDDs/SSDs then you're probably drawing under 500W

Vogel612

so I assumed just unplugging the whole thing and letting it sit for a while was enough to discharge them

Horn OK Please

you'd need a more serious fan to dissipate the heat losses of like 1000W+ of actual power draw but almost no one actually has a computer that draws that much energy

djsmiley2k

1:52 PM

@Vogel612 that's not..... always true

Vogel612

welp. high school physics is not a great teacher for electonics security

djsmiley2k

indeed.

Plz don't die. kthx.

Vogel612

nor is electronics class for programmers and cstheory students.

djsmiley2k

Now you can go on electronics.se and ask how long a cap in a PSU would stay charged, because you wanted to change a fan but some guy on the internet told you you might die.

Horn OK Please

in terms of the replacement fan being "enough" airflow, if it's a similar size as the one you took out, you're probably fine

djsmiley2k

1:54 PM

And then ask on skeptics if PSU's really killed more people than car crashes in the US.

Vogel612

that's probably a no

Horn OK Please

I mean, PSU fans don't exactly run at turbine RPMs - most modern PSUs even run their fans idle a lot of the time

Vogel612

car crashes are good at killing people. Especially DUI car crashes

djsmiley2k

lol so are psu's!

Vogel612

dunno, most people probably won't open their PSU, right?

Journeyman Geek

2:05 PM

Lol

I did once

Got a shock

Burgi

was the shock that it was full of dust?

i once bridged the three prongs on the psu with my finger as i went to carry the PC and got a nasty shock

bertieb

Oh, speaking of dust and derp

Burgi

had to go lie down for a while after that one

bertieb

When I was younger I once stuck a screwdriver into a PSU to clear out some pretty caked in dust

The results were shocking

Journeyman Geek

2:28 PM

Naw heatsink was live

Vogel612

eww, that's really not good ...

Journeyman Geek

@Vogel612 difference between 2, 3 and 4 wire fans...

2 wire speeds are controlled by voltage, 3 wire has a PWM, 4 wire has a sensor...

Vogel612

ground and speed-control?

Journeyman Geek

so a 2 wire fan on a 3 wire connection just runs at full speed all the time

ya, speed control is over PWM

rahuldottech

3:16 PM

whoa complete dox info in this user's profile:

Shit, also gets onceboxed

I dunno if the info is supposed to be public?

@JourneymanGeek something you can/should do?

oh god

that user's twitter

oh god

i am scarred

bye i need eyebleach

bertieb

...what?

rahuldottech

@bertieb @JourneymanGeek will be able to see the link as a mod, no one else needs to, trust me.

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech its their choice

bertieb

Ah, I missed the first bit

rahuldottech

3:32 PM

@JourneymanGeek huh, ok then

tbh, I looked at their twitter and now I regret having helped them out and answered their question

Journeyman Geek

eh

You're not just helping them

you're also helping the next person

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek true. but still eugh.

djsmiley2k

4:23 PM

> Which takes us to Japan, where the country's newly appointed deputy minister responsible for cyber security admitted in parliament yesterday that he hasn't touched a computer in his 43-year career.

According to The Graun, Yoshitaka Sakurada, responding to a question from the opposition during a lower house session, said:

"Since the age of 25, I have instructed my employees and secretaries, so I don't use computers myself."

wow?

I mean, he's personally not going to get hacked, sure.

Journeyman Geek

PERFECT SECURITY!

djsmiley2k

ok wtf these switches are serisouly fooked

the forwarding table is showing 5 mac addresses, of non-existant devices

> 33:33:00:00:00:0C

AHhhhhhhhhh it's multicast?

rahuldottech

4:51 PM

@JourneymanGeek doesn't answer the question! accepted! but still! nuke it! superuser.com/questions/1375705/…

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech that's not how it works

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek I know. But now if someone legit wants to know the answer to the question, they'll pointed at that, which doesn't have an answer

And they won't be able to ask a question cuz duplicatezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Journeyman Geek

then post a better answer

and hope it gets upvotes

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek I will, after exams

Journeyman Geek

we don't delete accepted answers for being "wrong"

rahuldottech

4:54 PM

ok bye guys see ya

@JourneymanGeek I knowww, I was half-joking, half-ranting

Hey, have you guys noticed how my typing style changes the night before exams?

Horn OK Please

you become a cat

Journeyman Geek

lol

djsmiley2k

5:47 PM

so i told wife I was gonna get a bluetooth speaker, and she's like 'already ordered one'

it came today

it's about 2cm diameter

djsmiley2k

5:58 PM

a 'CDN5' as identified by windows.

srsly wtf is this

Hennes

7:18 PM

That speaker looks small enough to hide below someones desk and play 'games'

Esp if you know their phones ringtone

Journeyman Geek

Lol

rahuldottech

Lmao

@djsmiley2k do you have a link for this?

djsmiley2k

@rahuldottech google.com/url?q=https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07JB65J6P/…

errr google y u eat url

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k thx

djsmiley2k

well yeah cxept i can't find anyway tyo make it work via bt

it works via usb.

Journeyman Geek

7:52 PM

hm. Y'all mind if I help-vamp a bit?

Michael Frank

Shoot

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek help-vamp?

Michael Frank

8:09 PM

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rahuldottech

8:16 PM

@MichaelFrank not found

rahuldottech

8:31 PM

just like my girlfriends ahahahahahahahaha am i rite

Journeyman Geek

8:47 PM

@rahuldottech yes

rahuldottech

:-(

Journeyman Geek

so, I need to create a srv record in dnsmasq for something

I'm a bit unclear over whether it needs to be a FQDN or not

or whether I need to set a local domain of some flavour

or if I can just set an IP address

eh, I might make it a question ;)

Michael Frank

Yes

To some of those.

I'll let you decide which. ;)

Journeyman Geek

9:11 PM

i could assign, IDK, home.(somedomain).iown to it

question asked

Horn OK Please

9:28 PM

@rahuldottech ehehehehehe ahahahahaha

:|

rahuldottech

@HornOKPlease Meh. TBH, I've enjoyed being single for a year. That last relationship was a mess. That said, you should go socialize and make friends. I've said this before. It's not hard.

You can do it!

rahuldottech

9:58 PM

yesterday, by rahuldottech

You guys know what I love? Great tits. Truly delightful.

This didn't get enough credit

> Same situation as OP. Setting up a library computer with access to Wikipedia. No myspace, no system updates, no background updates, nothing.

LMAOOOOOOOOO MYSPACE AHAHA I don't even remember it. You know why? It died before I was born.

Michael Frank

10:29 PM

Anyone know which pins I should test to check for 12V?

rahuldottech

My life sucks

@MichaelFrank 5 and 9

Or 5 and 1

Burgi

i went for a nap at 6pm, just woke up now

Michael Frank

@rahuldottech 5-9 gives me ~5.6V

5-1 gives me 0V

1-9 also gives me 5.6V

rahuldottech

@MichaelFrank then the device operates on 5V, not 12

Michael Frank

@rahuldottech 12V jumper is set though... pls computer just work.

rahuldottech

10:33 PM

5 and 1 are acting as GND

> Pin Direction Signal
1 Input DCD Data Carrier Detect
2 Input RXD Received Data
3 Output TXD Transmitted Data
4 Output DTR Data Terminal Ready
5 Signal Ground
6 Input DSR Data Set Ready
7 Output RTS Request To Send
8 Input CTS Clear To Send
9 Input RI Ring Indicator

Sorry for crappy formatting, on mobile

Michael Frank

looks fine.

rahuldottech

@MichaelFrank is it a laptop?

Michael Frank

No, it's a point of sale device.

rahuldottech

@MichaelFrank try giving some input to pin 1, and see if voltage 5 to 9 changes

Although I really doubt that's how it works

For input, 10k resistor from 9 to 1 should work although I don't have any experience with these ports, just general GPIO Arduino stuff

Don't keep the resistor connected for more than half a second

Actually, that's probably a bad idea

bwDraco

...TIL Rhode Island requires time and a half pay for retail and certain other employees working most federal holidays (hence it is one of three states in which Best Buy stores will not open on Thanksgiving).

Michael Frank

10:41 PM

I've managed to test pin 5 to the 12v pin off the motherboard itself... still only getting ~5.6V

rahuldottech

@MichaelFrank try with a 5V pin if there's one

Michael Frank

@rahuldottech I did, it sits exactly on 5V.

rahuldottech

@MichaelFrank ah

See, these devices usually use a 7812 voltage regulator for the 12V pin

If input is less than 12V, it won't change it, but it'll reduce higher voltages

What's happening is that the input voltage is above 5V, so the 5V regulator is bringing it down

bwDraco

...actually, this applies to most employers in RI.

rahuldottech

But the input is below 12V, so it's giving the input voltage as output for the 12V pin

That, or the regulator is spoilt

bwDraco

10:44 PM

5.6V? That sounds like it's out of spec.

rahuldottech

@MichaelFrank measure the input voltage to device

bwDraco

It's too high for 5V (more than 10% difference), and very far off from 12V.

rahuldottech

I wish I could do this all night, this is fun, but I gotta study for a few hours, exam later today. @MichaelFrank lemme know how it goes. I'll be online again 7.5 hours from now, if you wanna continue troubleshooting and haven't figured it out yet. Good luck!

Don't try the resistor thing, if input from 12V pin on motherboard isn't 12V either

rahuldottech

11:03 PM

s/input/output

s/input/output/

Why is chat on mobile so stupid

Michael Frank

I can't even use chat on mobile. The keyboard covers the text entry field on my iPhone.

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