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Bob
12:01 AM
@Ramhound IIRC ryzen cares more about memory freqs than current intel
Though @bwDraco would know more there
@DuncanXSimpson Cool, thanks. I'm gonna start from basics (got rfc3261 open :P)
 
12:20 AM
Huh, pretty scary how accurate my bitcoin predictions from two weeks ago were... again.
One of these days I'll learn to make proper money once I stop doubting myself >_>
 
Some doubt is good
 
12:34 AM
Possibly, but being 40% confident in yourself when you seem to be right over 80% of the time probably isn't great
 
Hah. I can relate.
 
1:00 AM
@noitsbecky Someone said 1BTC can go up to $60k this year. Any signs towards that?
 
Bob
I like how the SIP RFC uses Alice and Bob as placeholder names
It actually makes it easier to understand cause in my setup I'll be taking the role of Bob from the RFC's examples :D
 
@Bob all you need is an alice ;p
 
@Nick No.
 
okie dokie
 
It's fucking annoying how much trouble Windows 10 goes to to hide the contents of the recycle bin, even when you're administrator, especially when the contents are invisible from the actual recycle bin...
 
1:11 AM
@Bob Ryzen is unusually sensitive to memory frequency because the clock frequency of its cache-coherent interconnect is tied to the frequency of the integrated memory controller and therefore the memory frequency.
More simply, how fast data can move internally between cores is tied to how fast the memory is.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I wouldn't mind an Alice to talk to :P
@bwDraco cc @Ramhound ^^^
@JourneymanGeek Hm. I'm debating whether I want Asterisk (as a B2BUA) or just a simple SIP Proxy.
In the latter case I may as well use the provider's service directly...
A simple proxy probably helps latency though. With call audio going directly between the endpoints.
 
1:41 AM
Say what?
 
@Ramhound He's pointing at Ryzen being memory frequency sensitive, not him not minding an alice in his life ;)
 
Ahhh
Just have to decide if I want to cancel my 9900k order and order through siliconlottery :-)
 
 
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3:22 AM
@CanadianLuke Did you ever find a solution? lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/9365/…
I recently got a pair of Timberland shoes and find that my right foot squeaks when I walk on hard surfaces.
 
Good job my remote server's running all its OS drives on SSD... otherwise this'd be taking days instead of hours
 
 
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4:51 AM
> SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2.5" Internal SSD - 250 GB
PC World, GTFO
 
Bob
5:23 AM
@noitsbecky ?
Wait.
"M.2 2.5""
 
So. Bit of a random question.
I have a system with 4 ethernet ports. The internet seems to suggest bridging 3 of them with one IP address is a terrible idea...
How would I set it up then? Each port with a different IP leading out to stuff and masquraded? 3 different subnets with routes?
Most router boxen seem to be one wan and one lan interfaces.
 
@Bob Yeah, that
Also Tesco's website is also retarded.
They need me to enter specific digits from my loyalty card in order to check my loyalty card balance. Apparently my card number is wrong so that locked my account. You DON'T need to enter any card digits to spend all your balance though. Only to see your balance.
So I can still spend all my loyalty card points, but can't see how many I have, because the view your account section has been locked out. Well done for retarded, backwards, pointless "security".
 
Bob
5:40 AM
@JourneymanGeek uhhh.
What are you trying to do?
Use 3 ports as a switch?
Without dedicated switch hardware, you're probably not going to get great performance.
But a software bridge would technically work.
 
Oh. Swap out my router - but currently my setup's Wan, rest of network, NAS
Trying to figure out what's the smart thing to do with the other ports ;p
 
Oh, and the address in my "My account" section is out of date, and the "Website feedback" button I'm so hilariously inclined to use to report how broken their website is, doesn't actually work.
How do these people get jobs?
 
Bob
6:37 AM
@JourneymanGeek Ehhhh. What I did was use a single port on the router and a separate (managed) switch.
But that's cause I have a lot of wired devices.
If you don't care about intra-LAN speed you can use a software bridge.
You might have trouble getting gigabit, though, especially if you have multiple going at the same time.
A dedicated switch chip has much higher throughput.
 
@Bob well the bottleneck is very much elsewhere
 
Bob
My router (which does have a configurable switch chip, incidentally, thanks ubiquiti) is currently something like WAN/LAN1(+LAN1 VLAN.3000)/LAN2/LAN3
@JourneymanGeek Depends which bottleneck you're talking about.
 
@Bob my network is terribad ;)
 
Bob
If it were purely WAN<=>LAN you'd have a lower bottleneck
But as long as you're discussing LAN only... it's the difference between 100MB/s and 10MB/s intra-LAN file transfers
If you ever copy large files between computers (e.g. backups) it's a hugely visible difference
 
@Bob well, my network is a bottleneck there
The big things here are reliability (the asus sometimes overheats), fun, and hopefully speed ;p
But I'm fine with sticking a 20 or so dollar switch if need be
 
6:59 AM
Anyway for now I'll set up 1+1 ports and get it working first
 
 
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8:09 AM
I.... what?
On a scale of one to BALD EAGLE FREEDOM YEAH, how British is this tea?
 
Clearly the correct answer is in between
I'm starting to feel like this is one of those projects that would be so much easier to do at work
 
but some of it
 
Got distracted setting up bind9. I probably should go for dnsmasq, get it working, then try to switch over
 
I know what those words mean
 
(roommate kept demanding attention)
 
8:20 AM
"I demand the treats and pets!"
 
For double fun, I'm using firewalld rather than iptables
@bertieb yes
 
(Why don't we have separate words for those? "I pet my pet" is so awkward)
Speaking in the general case, not here where there's equality ofc ;-P
 
On the bright side, got ssh set up into the new box and tested, and have a dummy box set up for testing once it's all up
 
Nice
Ahh, the feeling of a new setup
Before random other services are added
And some files are stored there "just for the time being"
When it has just one, coherent, unified purpose
A thing of beauty, really
Is this definitely going to stay as 'just' a router?
 
8:29 AM
That's what I like to hear
 
Well the idea here is to document the build process, then tear it down and do it from docs
 
Router, smtp server, Docker host, image upload service, bluetooth device presence monitoring, all the things!
Ah, that's disappointingly sensible :P
 
Hah
Oh then throw in extra crap
 
nods approvingly
 
Kms server, download box...m
The whole point of a stock Linux install here is the potential for fun misuse
++ when I move out in a few years I can build another one
 
8:37 AM
Sounds like a plan
 
4x USB ports + what looks like a m.2 sata SSD + fairly easy to upgrade wireless card + SATA ...
So lots of potential for abuse
But first the basics :p
 
First: the basics
Second: dockerise all the things!
Third: ???
Fourth: Profit!
 
@bertieb if you seperate them into seperate instances or something, it's all good.
 
@djsmiley2k Now where's the fun in that :P
 
docker, or various vm/hypervisor/segregation things.
@bertieb learning how to do it securely?
 
8:52 AM
Sound like what a synth someone who actually knows what they're doing and can plan would say
 
Well, if I had more ram....
Lol
 
@djsmiley2k Again, where's the fun in that :P
If you haven't put together something that would make a CTF participant rub their hands gleefully, have you even Linuxed?
...not that I've put together something dodgy, fragile and vulnerable, of course
 
Who has bitcoin wallet?
I want to make one.
 
9:15 AM
@Boris_yo speak to @noitsbecky
 
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A: File explorer not responding upon launch in Windows 10

CopperKettleI removed the freeware software called MultiDoc Converter just now, and File Explorer started responding. I cannot say for sure that this software was the culprit - after all, my laptop had mysteriously turned off before the problem first arose, and this turning off might have damaged something...

 
"Did we hit something?" "Who left that wall there?"
3
 
9:47 AM
wtf?
 
Bob
> In January, Jet Airways grounded two pilots following reports of a fight inside the cockpit of a flight from London to Mumbai.
 
this doesn't sound like a good airline
who are you flying with again @Bob? ;)
 
Bob
@Burgi Not them!
 
lol
 
Bob
Note to self, never fly to India
maybe take a boat
 
10:08 AM
@Bob yup, and
> It comes weeks after more than 30 passengers aboard Indian carrier Jet Airways had to receive treatment after pilots "forgot" to turn on a switch regulating cabin pressure.
 
don't they have checklists?
 
Checklist item #1: Remember to bring checklist
Someone call Gödel
 
Item #2: Have you been to the loo before we set off?
 
Ha
Item #3: No, seriously, have you been? I'm turning this plane around if you say you need to go after we take off
Item #4: The all-important snake-check
 
snake-ch... OH! lol
 
10:24 AM
@Bob We used to fly Jet a lot
Most of my fun stories are indian airlines/air india tho
 
10:55 AM
I’m a moonmoon. gravity noises Check meowt.
 
moon moon doth not meow.
MOON MOON MUST DANCE!
 
11:45 AM
> "The matter was conveyed to the pilot in command. The pilot in command reported that the aircraft systems were operating normally."
Ah, the eastern thing of insisting everything is fine, even when you're on fire.
 
12:31 PM
> But before the race on 2 June 1929, she indulged in a long night of champagne, morphine and sex.
 
Bob
12:49 PM
@djsmiley2k I mean, if it didn't damage hydraulics/electronics, they actually might not know.
It's not like the plane has a "missing chunk of skin" sensor :P
 
@djsmiley2k Now now good sir. It is a very american thing. For example...
##thisisfine
damned bot
Very american!
 
@Bob you would have thought that they would have heard it
or felt it
 
Bob
@Burgi Planes are loud.
@Burgi Planes are big.
Also that would've been under the cargo area.
Highly doubt even the passengers would've felt it, let alone the pilots up front.
 
[CITATION NEEDED]
 
Bob
Especially on takeoff, which is usually a bit turbulent anyway.
 
1:04 PM
it looks like they clipped the central bit
 
1:47 PM
 
2:08 PM
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2:39 PM
@Burgi Read headline as "Hella Nice", and thought "Okay, good to know that about her, but what was her name?"
 
lol
she sounds like quite the party girl
champagne, morphine AND sex
i think james hunt only managed champagne and sex
 
I read that as Jeremy Hunt
Different person
But yea, she sounds quite cool
 
hmm...
easily confused... ;)
 
To be fair, to be fair, to be fair
It's Jeremy Hunt who looks like he's on champagne and morphine
(not NHS morphine of course, something from one of his private health companies)
(No, I'm not bitter, resentful, angry and think he was a terrible choice all those years... why do you ask?)
 
lol
 
3:07 PM
@bertieb or just sex, since that guy called him Jeremy Cunt on the radio
 
@allquixotic It happened more than once!
Which is the Best Thing
 
LOL
 
British irony mode engaged It's a shame, because it happened to such an undeserving guy
 
iirc it was when he was health secretary
or minister for schools?
he is now the foreign secretary
 
First time was when he was Culture Secretary
So it was a proper transposition "Hunt... Culture"
Next time was when he was spit crosses self throws salt over shoulder Health Secretary
The first time was James Naughtie IIRC
There is a recording of it
Slightly NSFW if work doesn't like Spoonerisms
 
Bob
3:54 PM
> I didn't recognize half the things in this shop. I think they were all parts for the parts that go inside parts.
 
 
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Bob
6:26 PM
user image
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halp
 
that's a lot of ... opening stuff
 
 
1 hour later…
8:02 PM
lol
 
8:47 PM
Physical home server now has a landing page: rad.blue
 
welp. 16 GB of writes to the dedicated swap portable SSD on Bifrons (the cheap Lenovo netbook with openSUSE) over four days of use (on and off).
 
 
1 hour later…
10:47 PM
Moar ram?
 
@djsmiley2k It's a netbook. The memory is soldered.
This is why 1) the machine now runs Linux and has an external SSD dedicated to swap and 2) it's been replaced with a modern, Ryzen-based (Raven Ridge) thin-and-light laptop.
 

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