Root Access

djsmiley2k

9:00 AM

putty

:D

Burgi

its in the putty settings

djsmiley2k

yus

but I want to keep like, 30 days worth of logs

I guess I could use just %D

that'd work

:D

Burgi

batch file or.... looks around and whispers powershell

djsmiley2k

yeah, gonna need some help writing something that works

I have an innate fear of copy/pasting code I don't understand.

Burgi

i'd also include %H incase you connect to multiple servers

djsmiley2k

9:07 AM

oh yeah I have that already.

I had %H-%Y-%M-%T.log

but i've got like gb's upon gb's of logs now

I only really ever need to check something I've done recently

Journeyman Geek

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Q: Equivalent of LogRotate for Windows?

We have a huge logfile being written by a vendor's application. Let's assume the vendor won't do anything that we ask. Is there any way of rotating that logfile? We're looking at about 300 MB an hour being written - I'd much rather chunk that into 10 MB pieces, and let anything older than a day o...

that suggests cygwin, cygwin (cut down) or a local port

djsmiley2k

yeah

:/

I was hoping for something a bit more polished.

Journeyman Geek

well the last seems ok?

unless you mean with a gui

djsmiley2k

yeah, gonna give that a bash

was hoping someone here used something already.

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Burgi

9:19 AM

@JourneymanGeek QC is making me smile and go "awwww" a lot recently

Journeyman Geek

Oh god

The lastest one was so cute

like those two.

djsmiley2k

> /cygdrive/h/Documents/PuttyLogs/*.log {
rotate 1
compress
no create

hmmmm....

Do i need anyhting else :/

now i'm confusing myself about logrotate ;D

rahuldottech

Someone listen to this and give me feedback please: m.soundcloud.com/rahuldottech/cosmic-ensemble

@Burgi IKR. I want more pintsize though. I want much more pintsize.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Burgi

agreed

Journeyman Geek

9:33 AM

I want an answer to the important question.

WHAT DOES PINTSIZE SMELL?

also, I'm completely confused by melon

Its like she just suddenly turned up?

Burgi

yeah melon is rubbish

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek I don't exactly remember either. I have to binge reread the past 200 or so strips

Burgi

melon is like the new emily

rahuldottech

THEY KISSED

I JUST READ TODAY'S STRIP

OMG

Burgi

ROFL

#Spoilers ;)

rahuldottech

9:36 AM

THIS IS THE FIRST ROBO-HUMAN KISS IN THE FIFTEEN YEARS THAT THIS COMIC HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR?

Burgi

are you sure? pintsize has done some crazy stuff

rahuldottech

@Burgi I don't think he has kissed a human tho

Burgi

i like the female police robot

rahuldottech

I miss Hanelore

I didn't like her the first few strips that she appeared in

Burgi

meh

i got bored with her

rahuldottech

9:38 AM

But I like her now

Why doesn't Jeff do more pintsize though!?!?

Journeyman Geek

lol

I like hanners

@rahuldottech much bigger cast?

and a few vanished

Burgi

he needs to trim the cast/plotlines

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek yeah. At this point there are like too many story arcs going on

So much so that that if he posts a stop from a story arc about which he hasn't posted in a while, you have no idea what's going on

Burgi

i'm confused by the whole bi-curious clinton arc

Journeyman Geek

like the indian baking lady that was like almost the same as dora

Burgi

9:40 AM

the new winslow is rubbish

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek yeah. Angus, Steve, Martin's original band, Penelope, Dale, all of coffee of doom and the library people

Journeyman Geek

I liked him more as an ipod

Burgi

i agree

Journeyman Geek

the library people are all around

rahuldottech

@Burgi he got a new body, right? I can't even keep track anymore

@JourneymanGeek yeah

Burgi

9:42 AM

@rahuldottech yeah

rahuldottech

What does he look like now?

Journeyman Geek

Tai's dating dora, claire's a library girl, then there's the tall one

@rahuldottech kinda standard pretty boy human chassis.

Burgi

pintsize and old winslow upgraded the roomba and it flew away

Journeyman Geek

Boring

rahuldottech

questionablecontent.net/cast.php

Journeyman Geek

9:43 AM

I like how freefall handles their robots

Burgi

@rahuldottech it isn't up to date

rahuldottech

^ this is very out of date

Burgi

@rahuldottech this is out of date now... ;)

rahuldottech

Lol

djsmiley2k

can a mod nuke that plz

Burgi

9:44 AM

o.O

djsmiley2k

cc @JourneymanGeek

Burgi

i saw "crypto" and then it vanished like in some sort of spy shenanigans ;)

djsmiley2k

hehe

it has nothing useful in there

but it identifies a client, which shouldn't relaly be done eh ;)

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k next time, edit then delete

djsmiley2k

/me tries again

> 'cygpath' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

@JourneymanGeek does that nuke it from history?

Journeyman Geek

9:46 AM

we can't edit deleted things, and we can only redact revisions

djsmiley2k

do I need to do somethi nthen @JourneymanGeek?

Journeyman Geek

too late ;(

djsmiley2k

Oh I can't.

D:

:D

nm,.

> You need to update the configuration file logwot8.cfg according to your needs, and customize the batch file logwot8.cmd:

derp.

I'm unsure what needs editing in the logwot8.cmd :/

I'm presuming actually it's missing env var

yah cygwin not in %PATH%

ok why does cmd reprot %PATH% completely differently to what system shows?

Oh, i derp

Do I need to reboot now I changed the System %PATH% variable?

:/

Journeyman Geek

10:05 AM

I think you need to log out?

And back on

No no

Try a new cmd window first

Burgi

its taking forever to build this fracking email template

Burgi

10:24 AM

wow... one of the macbooks in customer services has a broken key on the keyboard. our IT company has quoted us £400 to repair it

thats the same as a brand new windows laptop

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Hakase

I've been reading hardware review sites and they all list how the cheaper 970 ssd 250GB version is considerably slower than 500GB and how you should only get 250GB as a budget choice

I don't think I need more than 128GB anyways coz I'm not using all of it on my current ssd

but I want teh speedz and at low cost :I

Journeyman Geek

oh

Hakase

they're doing synthetic tests and real workload tests with graphs but I'm not convinced because none of these reviews do a week-long test to tell which version seems noticeably faster or if there's no difference at all to a normal user

Journeyman Geek

bigger SSDs are usually a bit faster

Hakase

10:32 AM

the only noticeable difference, as all reviews say, is solid file copying speed

but who does that

Journeyman Geek

@Hakase or loading huge data sets.

Hakase

meh I think in that case you should just get more ram :p

so I guess I'll take the 250GB model despite... things... and get 16 gigs of ram instead of 8

although who the hell knows I might be fine with 8 still

Journeyman Geek

makes snese

sense

Hakase

sneeze c:

now I just gotta finalize my choice of other components

I have no idea what the difference is between mobos aside from the OC aspect which I won't be using with 8400

the chipsets are slightly different but idk how that might matter in my case

also I'll need a case...

Journeyman Geek

heh

most of my builds actually start with a case

Hakase

10:43 AM

I don't really care about many components

I've only seen the builders community from the side of my eye but now that I'm looking at the modern components I just don't know what's there to obsess about

I guess it's the creative arrangement of parts, cables and rgb lighting

Journeyman Geek

Well, more or less, parts have gone commodity

Hakase

building a new pc must be an exciting thought for many because it's a jump from total poopfest to something top notch

Journeyman Geek

and some folk actually like the process

Hakase

I'm actually not going for the best here, but still I want the best possible ssd and ram speeds for normal workload

Journeyman Geek

otherwise you could just buy one, like a filthy casual.

Hakase

10:48 AM

yea I don't see where the filth comes from or the casuality

Journeyman Geek

I kid

Hakase

I know

Journeyman Geek

More or less, computers reached the point where, most systems are good enough

Hakase

I guess it's kind of like sports

Journeyman Geek

Unless you went for bargain basement celerons.

Hakase

10:49 AM

it doesn't really matter who gets the ball where but it's fun to imagine it does

I've had a celeron D for a while >.>

Journeyman Geek

You're probably not going to notice the difference between say, a very very high end M.2 drive that literally runs so hard its thermally bottlenecked

and a midrange drive

I'm on a celeron based atom right now

very very stripped down system tho

Hakase

right now I've got a vertex 4 and it seems that 970 is at least (at 250gb) 2 times faster, at 500gb 2.5 times faster and if it's PRO instead of EVO, it's 3 times faster

unless I'm bad at reading percentages and it's actually 3, 3.5 and 4x

in which case I'm totally fine with just 2/3x

Journeyman Geek

I favour the pros over the evos cause MLC over TLC, and the snob appeal of that ;)

Hakase

meh

I favor budget coz there are no 250gb PROs

ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/… I mean look at this >.<

8400 costs a bit less than 970 pro

I don't wanna spend all my money here

Journeyman Geek

ah true

lol. I have a 840 pro I think, and a 830 ...

and a few chinese drives that are oddly good enough for what I use them for.

Hakase

10:56 AM

well, check the comparisons to 970 now, might wanna upgrade

Bob

Journeyman Geek

also OCZ had aweful reliability

Hakase

I've read so much crap about ocz and seagate and so far the luck has been on my side

maybe it's the us batches that got screwed idk

we probably get shipments direct from asia

Journeyman Geek

Also comparing modern m2 with older SATA

Hakase

well yea

Journeyman Geek

10:57 AM

not quite the same.

Hakase

so, would you wanna upgrade yours?

for the main OS drive

Journeyman Geek

well I would go for the samsung on the next build

Hakase

idk if you're doing any compiling or something which requires fast io

see I'm not entirely sure I'll feel the difference between my current ssd and 970

Journeyman Geek

naw

Hakase

if the cpu is gonna jump a decade, idk how the ssd will look like in this new equation

Journeyman Geek

10:59 AM

meh, probably will still be better than spinning rust XD

Hakase

(no idea what you mean)

@JourneymanGeek there will be no difference? or...

(by spinning rust do you mean classic disc drives?)

@LearnByReading "quite frankly"... ba-dum tss. — maxathousand 17 hours ago

I don't get it

what's badumtssy about that

Burgi

@Hakase frankfurters are a type of sausage normally used in hot dogs

Hakase

oh I thought it was about the guy's username being "Learn By Reading" but he didn't even think of reading the dictionary

the frankfurt-wurstery seems like a very stretched pun

Burgi

it is a long sausage :)

Journeyman Geek

11:17 AM

@Hakase yes

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek yah done that :/

Hakase

@JourneymanGeek ???

Journeyman Geek

@Hakase spinning rust is traditional disk drives

Hakase

ah coz u replied to my comment quote

djsmiley2k

wtf it worked this time o_O

Hakase

11:26 AM

welcome to the world of "turn if off and on again"

That Brazilian Guy

12:13 PM

It's so comfy here... And so cold outside... And it's raining...

I don't wanna go to work!

Why can't I work from home?

Journeyman Geek

Sure you can :p

That Brazilian Guy

It's not like anything that I do needs me to phisically be at work.

Journeyman Geek

Hah

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek "Can" as in "being able to"? Totatlly!

...as in "being allowed to"? HAH!

Funny thing, a whole dev team had their whole floor catch fire and they've been working from home since.

Journeyman Geek

That is mostly true of my job. Other than security requirements

That Brazilian Guy

12:15 PM

(the floor never was rebuilt because budgets? In Brazil? HAHAHA!)

Journeyman Geek

'catch fire'?

That Brazilian Guy

So management knows people can successfully work from home.

@JourneymanGeek Yeah. A floor which housed thousands of official documents misteriously catch fire. Only that floor, nothing else. Life is so funny, huh?

3 mins ago, by That Brazilian Guy

It's so comfy here... And so cold outside... And it's raining...

(By "cold" a Rio resident means it's 25 C inside and 23 C ouside)

People on the streets are waering long sleeves and light coats

djsmiley2k

@Hakase I just waited

That Brazilian Guy

If it was a couple degrees lower there would be people wearing scarves.

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek HACF.

That Brazilian Guy

12:20 PM

8 hours ago, by Michael Frank

Huh... Apparently the US Senate voted to restore Net Neutrality...

Wait, what? ----^

djsmiley2k

wut

the people won?

fux the FCC?

Shove it Ajit PAI?

:O

yesterday, by allquixotic

USAians please halp - call your senators and congresspeople, especially if they haven't come out in support of net neutrality yet... vote is happening soon https://www.battleforthenet.com/scoreboard

Holy crap it worked?

Oh

which is where it gets screwed?

Now it' goes to congress

Faheem Mitha

@djsmiley2k Wow. Some actual good news?

djsmiley2k

I dunno, not american ;D

That Brazilian Guy

A wild American appeared

Faheem Mitha

> It will have to pass in the House as well and then be signed by the president for the old rules to be restored (that or a two-thirds majority, which is equally unlikely).

So of largely symbolic significance for now.

allquixotic

12:31 PM

the Senate vote passed, but the House vote is very far off from having enough votes.... at last count they're like 47 votes short

Faheem Mitha

Looking at techcrunch.com/2018/05/16/…

So no actual good news. My faith in the Balance of the Universe has been restored.

@allquixotic A 2/3 majority is a lot to ask for. Like a lot of Republicans suddenly waking up sane.

Was the Senate vote passing also considered unlikely?

allquixotic

@FaheemMitha no, they only needed 3 Republican votes because the Senate is pretty close to being 50/50 split between Democrat and Republican, and every Democrat supported NN

finding 3 moderate Republicans isn't that hard

Faheem Mitha

@allquixotic I see.

Still was a close vote, though.

Hakase

idk but honestly I think the sooner that law crashes the internet, the sooner they'll think of a way to make it impossible for stupid laws to fuck it up like that in the future

right now everyone's thought seem to be "how do we work hard to play it right in this corrupt and obviously broken system that doesn't favor us... to favor us just a bit longer"

and comments like "they only need to win 1 time so we must always be vigilant"

why

why don't they have to always be vigilant if they wish to break the good state of things?

why not make the system work that way instead

why try fix something that is unfixable by design

this isn't limited to the us tho

and I'm sure if all these evil "let's kill the internet" laws passed in one day, next month nobody would even care coz it'd be solved one way or another

but it's interesting to watch

2020 and dat low orbit internet isn't so far away now

That Brazilian Guy

@Hakase But it's not "let's kill the internet", it's "let's extract the maximum amount of money from stuff that wasn't even charged before"

Hakase

12:45 PM

yea, at which point it makes sense to start up local ISPs

in this equation money always wins tho

Faheem Mitha

Has the US Govt actually ever overturned NN before? Or is this a first?

The FCC decision, I mean.

Hakase

@ThatBrazilianGuy if private businesses can come up with a more profitable plan than comcast and whoelse, I don't think those who want those bribes will complain if they offer bigger bribes

Faheem Mitha

And how long has NN been a thing, anyway?

That Brazilian Guy

@Hakase I read somewhere that the USA made it much harder to start local ISPs

Hakase

(I was expecting that comment in advance :p)

Faheem Mitha

12:46 PM

The ISP situation isn't that good in the US right now, anyway.

That Brazilian Guy

@Hakase Well, but those who can pay big bribes want NN gone. The ones who want to be fair usually are smaller and with less effective bribes.

Faheem Mitha

Lots of monopolistic behavior, poor speeds, bad customer service.

Ironically, the situation in India has improved quite a lot recently. It used to be abysmal.

That Brazilian Guy

"Fuck those ISPs, I'll start my own with blackjack and routers"
"Sure, just pay this $322443536546456435 tax, and this bribe here"

Hakase

@FaheemMitha I don't think it's a matter of how long it's been a thing but how long the ISPs have wanted to abuse whatever laws existed that impede their abusive intents

Burgi

i can't see how net neutrality can affect me in the UK

Faheem Mitha

12:48 PM

Also, the US govt is very anti municipal broadband. In its usual excessively pro-business way.

@Hakase Ok, fair enough.

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi Oh, you don't use any US-based service?

djsmiley2k

@Burgi not america's net neutrality anyway

@Burgi lets talk about the porn pass

Burgi

all the big content providers would just move out of america

djsmiley2k

this is the funniest thing I've ever heard suggested.

@Burgi That'd make it stop

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERTIME!

That Brazilian Guy

12:49 PM

Who said stop

Hakase

@ThatBrazilianGuy yea, it's not fairness that wins, it's the size of bribes... so make the bribes bigger! and don't play 100% fair either, just fairer and better to the end users compared to comcast and the like

Burgi

@ThatBrazilianGuy think there is a cooldown on it

That Brazilian Guy

Oh.

Hakase

@ThatBrazilianGuy us-based services will stop basing in the us if it's not profitable for them, no big deal

djsmiley2k

Ah ha!

%PROGRAMFILES%

Hakase

12:50 PM

just a couple months of transitioning worldwide

djsmiley2k

that's not the right one

this script is terrible

What's the x86 version ;D

Hakase

@djsmiley2k that'll never take off lol

djsmiley2k

!programfiles(x86)

@Hakase oh it's coming

it's funny

because buying a code in a newsagents is surely secure and not at all open to abuse

Because teenagers would never buy codes online off someone selling them for 300% price.

Hakase

well, I wanna see all the politicians write themselves a nice big pass in front of the cameras and show how it's supposed to be used for a big audience

sort of a ribbon cutting ceremony

such a great initiative, needs to be shown to everyone

djsmiley2k

lol

how long til it gets cracked? :D

Hakase

12:52 PM

I don't think any sane person would use it lol

djsmiley2k

programfiles(x86)

:O

Hakase

why buy codes when you can share accounts tho

and why keep using when you can scrape the data (vids/images/comments if you're into that) and just share offside

Faheem Mitha

India has never had net neutrality. And there seems to be nobody trying to enact one.

Though India is so chaotic, it's not clear how much difference it would make.

It doesn't seem to be an issue in practice. But India isn't the US. And doesn't have the kind of traffic that the US does.

Hakase

I guess it's harder to squeeze money out of the internet in india

it might be harder to regulate the physical lines

in the city you can easily find the wires and cut them

but yea interesting thought

djsmiley2k

pastebin.com/S1z4QKik

Cygwin, wtf?

@JourneymanGeek this is what happens when I use random tools on the net!! D:

Faheem Mitha

12:57 PM

@Hakase It's a whole different scene. And I don't know much about the US or India setup, in any case.

Hakase

same :p

Faheem Mitha

But not long ago, the situation used to be quite dire here. I guess that whole economic liberalization craziness has some benefits.

Bear in mind that for a country with no potable water, the Net isn't the highest priority. People who really care are essentially the elites.

Hakase

I've only had very little experience with countryside isps in basically villages connecting private houses via fiber cables and I don't think that approach scales to major cities

djsmiley2k

hmmm

it could

if done right

is basically mesh networking.

You can create an amazingly functional network that way, for specific uses.

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