Root Access

Burgi

12:03 AM

i feel blergh

bwDraco

Could be early 2000s but in any case, quite old.

Bob

12:25 AM

@allquixotic have you heard of gVisor?

Journeyman Geek

12:36 AM

quick question - is there any value in pinning notable MSE posts here?

There's a new privacy center coming up- updates to tools for you to manage your own data, and an easier way to opt out of arbitration during the grace period.

3

On one hand, its on the sidebar. On the other, we discuss these things here too

Michael Frank

4x GTX480 SLI, would you bother?

Journeyman Geek

0_0

practially? No

but sounds like ~~a nice way to warm your room~~ fun

Bob

> How To Back Up Your Flickr Library

@JourneymanGeek Yea, it's good to keep up to date.

@MichaelFrank all the performance of a GTX 1080, for only 1000% the power consumption? :P

Journeyman Geek

12:52 AM

Nice way to generate heat ;p

That Brazilian Guy

1:06 AM

@TMLCat I want kittens. You now have to provide me with kittens.

Michael Frank

Anyone else been getting malformed hello warnings when attempting to access YouTube recently?

Journeyman Geek

no?

Ramhound

1:25 AM

Trying to decide if I should bother with answering this question. In order for me to answer that question, I would have to install VS2017 and the extension, then specifically export the keys, in order to recreate the author's situation. Even if I did all that and wrote the script, the user, indicate they don't want to use any solution dealing with the registry. Should I even bother?

Journeyman Geek

hmm

no? ;p

Ramhound

Even if I do answer it, I probably won't even get an accept....go figure

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek On at least 3 different machines on different networks, I have been getting a malformed hello error in Firefox the first time I visit YT that day...

Ramhound

Interesting. The one question of the author, that I answered, he didn't accept the answer. It's the only one. Answers my question...

Journeyman Geek

I mean, more that you're asking that question ;p

I mean, if you reeeeealllly wanted to know how to do it, or it would be fun, go ahead

allquixotic

1:35 AM

@Bob no

bwDraco

@MichaelFrank A single GTX 1070 will outperform four GTX 480s combined while consuming just 15% of the power.

Not even the 1080. 1070.

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Ha.

I was just looking at one of the shipments that came in for disposal and noticed beefy looking case. Checked out the insides and it's an i7 970 w/ 4xSLI GTX480s in it.

allquixotic

quad 980 Ti is probably the last gen that supported 4-way SLI, isn't it?

Burgi

@MichaelFrank are you allowed to "dispose" of it into the boot of your car?

allquixotic

quad 980 Ti on SLI-friendly games is probably one of the fastest setups even in the world of the Titan V

especially on DX11 games

Michael Frank

1:38 AM

@Burgi It won't fit. :|

Burgi

backseat?

Ramhound

I already know "how to do it" but I can't confirm my script works without installing VS2017 which is a pain

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank or the closest equivilent

I once carried a full sized case in a bus....

oh oh

Michael Frank

wait... Let me go and take a picture...

Journeyman Geek

and a pair of 2u rackmounts, though the megabus driver threw a fit

Burgi

1:39 AM

of your car?

Bob

@bwDraco you sure? joking aside, a 480 benchmarks around 1/3rd of a 1080...

allquixotic

man, Steam's download servers suuuuuuuuuuck

Burgi

if you have a smart car i'll let you off

allquixotic

I'm getting 11 Mbps -> download stopped -> 7 Mbps -> stopped -> 20 Mbps -> stopped -> 2 Mbps -> stopped constantly

Bob

@allquixotic it looks interesting. containers (docker...) but with a mini-hypervisor

allquixotic

1:39 AM

and speedtesting at 850 Mbps

bwDraco

SLI scaling falls off a cliff past two cards.

Bob

@bwDraco assuming compute, not gaming?

@allquixotic pick a different download server :P

bwDraco

Yes, gaming.

Bob

sometimes I switch over to the Melbourne server for faster downloads

bwDraco

engadget.com/2010/04/26/…

Bob

1:41 AM

@allquixotic so gVisor intercepts syscalls like user-mode linux, but without any hardware emulation like full virt

allquixotic

@Bob huh. UML-ish

Bob

@allquixotic yea, that's how they described it

bwDraco

And SLI itself is dying. Although Pascal GP102 and GP104 cards support 2-way SLI HB, there are few modern games that support SLI in any way, shape, or form. Assassin's Creed Origins and Final Fantasy XV don't support it.

allquixotic

looks like it has an isolation layer that uses KVM and VT-x for network I/O

Michael Frank

There we go

Journeyman Geek

1:44 AM

ah

that's a big case

Burgi

still...

Michael Frank

Yea, I said it as a big case.

Burgi

how small is your car?

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank were these work machines?!

bwDraco

Dimensions?

Journeyman Geek

1:45 AM

I mean if you're allowed to dispose of it though, totally would fit in a car boot

bwDraco

Can you identify what model case this is?

Journeyman Geek

I think that were barely fit in my dad's other car and that thing is a shoebox

Michael Frank

@allquixotic They're from a Uni. I think they were probably render farms?

Burgi

it looks like the same size as my case

TML Cat

!!tell 44677295 caaaaaaat2

ChatBot John Cavil

1:46 AM

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Probably, let me check...

@Burgi It's a Prius C.

oh dude, it'll fit

@Burgi TWSS!

drop the seats

just to be a wet blanket here...

is it ok to do that tho? ;p

TML Cat

1:48 AM

@JourneymanGeek TWSS!

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek i was just about to ask

also...

11 mins ago, by Burgi

@MichaelFrank are you allowed to "dispose" of it into the boot of your car?

Journeyman Geek

I mean, we're all geeks. And I love a spot of dumpster diving as much as the next dog....

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Naw, it's not that case. I'll got and take a better look.

Burgi

@bwDraco he has child seats and things in the car...

bwDraco

Let me check again...

...okay, it's an Armor+ MX.

Michael Frank

1:50 AM

Here we go, Thermaltake Armor+

thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00000091

oh yea, your one looks more like it.

TML Cat

@MichaelFrank TWSS!

bwDraco

535x240x490mm. This is not larger than Astaroth (Corsair 760T, 568x246x564mm).

Michael Frank

@TMLCat I don't know what you're saying. :(

@bwDraco It's not about the size... ;)

bwDraco

The Armor+ MX is IMO too small for quad-SLI.

Michael Frank

Although in your case, you have size AND performance...

Burgi

1:53 AM

@MichaelFrank so back to the original question... are you allowed to dispose of it off site in about 3 years time?

Michael Frank

@Burgi why 3 years?

Ramhound

Anyone else angry that all the 2018 IPS 4k monitors are delayed due to the fact they all use the same bloody panel?

bwDraco

But it does support a side intake fan, a feature that's not common on modern setups.

Burgi

@MichaelFrank thats how long i go between upgrades

Journeyman Geek

@Ramhound not yet ;p

Burgi

1:54 AM

are you allowed to nick it, yes/no?

Journeyman Geek

I'm not on the market for now anyway

@MichaelFrank totally TWSS

@Burgi this is an important question

Bob

@JourneymanGeek that's possibly more of a TWHS

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek What is TW- Oh.

I see.

Journeyman Geek

.... really?

That's what she said.

Ramhound

Looking at 4k 60Hz panels but I want DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.0b ports but the current panels don't have that configuration. But next generation panels are 120 Hz+ and have those ports.

SO I am annoyed

Michael Frank

1:56 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yes, I get it now. :<

Burgi

n00b

Journeyman Geek

@Ramhound I had the reverse issue when I got my 4k panels

very few machines did HDMI 2.0, and my specific release of monitor did not, but newer ones did.

Michael Frank

I will find out if it is truly for disposal, and attempt to infiltrate my on house with it, without attracting the ire and destructive capability of my wife.

Journeyman Geek

ugh

Ramhound

Well I am more worried about my 1180 build then my current configuration.

Journeyman Geek

1:57 AM

@MichaelFrank does she not get it?

Burgi

@MichaelFrank ah...

Ramhound

Even then I doubt even the 1180 will do 4k 120 Hz+ but I want really good monitors ;-)

Journeyman Geek

cause WAF is important man

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek I could probably say... "SURPRISE! You can game on this one!"

Burgi

my GF accepts and encourages the fact she knows where i am if i'm gaming.....

rahuldottech

1:58 AM

Guys

I have an exam right now

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi well that's something i tacitly hope future mrs geek gets ;p

@rahuldottech like right now?

rahuldottech

It's not an important exam at all

Michael Frank

@rahuldottech You should put your phone away.

Journeyman Geek

you might get kicked out for cheating :(

rahuldottech

Just a small school test. But I'm pretty sure I'm going to do really crappy

Journeyman Geek

1:59 AM

(speaking of which, the first two people we talked to are out... :( )

Michael Frank

@rahuldottech You certainly will if you don't put your phone away.

Journeyman Geek

so starting again

Michael Frank

Shoo!

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek it's in 20 minutes

Journeyman Geek

riggght

rahuldottech

2:00 AM

Ehehhehe

allquixotic

./me kick-mutes rahuldotcheat

2

Ramhound

The only reason you are going to do "really crappy" is if you keep talking to us while your taking an exam that is important enough to take.

2

rahuldottech

Hey! Come on

Burgi

kick him!

rahuldottech

The exam hasn't even started yet

Michael Frank

2:00 AM

Do it!

rahuldottech

Bye.

I hate you

6

Michael Frank

glhf<3

2

Journeyman Geek

god. its like we're his parents or something.

5

Burgi

lol :)

rahuldottech

(-_-)

bwDraco

2:01 AM

lol

Burgi

basically me gaming means i'm not out cavorting with ladies of the night and other ne'erdowells

Journeyman Geek

hah

speaking of which

allquixotic

I don't get to cavort with ladies

(or men)

Burgi

or cats?

Journeyman Geek

or cavort at all

cat's don't cavort.

they sit, and stare.

Ramhound

2:04 AM

This VM on this mechanical disk is killing me

lol

bwDraco

Today's case designs are less gaudy. Instead, they often aim to showcase what's inside while providing better airflow. RGB lighting and liquid cooling are more common these days.

Michael Frank

Yea, the glossy case panels are awful looking IMHO.

Ramhound

is a $400 case that has about 4 RGB fans overkill?

amazon.com/…

(no idea why i want that bugger)

Journeyman Geek

two words

free computer

Michael Frank

lol

Journeyman Geek

2:07 AM

@Ramhound cause its shiny

bwDraco

If you're looking at super-tower cases with RGB everywhere and the ability to hold two systems, a good place to start is the new Corsair Obsidian 1000D.

Ramhound

I saw that

Journeyman Geek

that said

Ramhound

I like the view 91 because it fully comes apart

Journeyman Geek

if I build another new PC soon, (and I decide in 2-3 months) I'll probably go for a HAF XB evo

Ramhound

2:07 AM

1000D would be great if I actually was going build 2 pcs in it

Michael Frank

@bwDraco ...two systems?!

bwDraco

That kind of case... is overkill. I went with the 760T because I wanted big, but not too big.

@MichaelFrank EATX + mITX.

Michael Frank

Ahh, I see. Designed for multi-system streaming setups.

Journeyman Geek

I love my 600T but... its slightly overkill

Ramhound

Anyone have a DXRacer chair?

bwDraco

2:09 AM

Big because I was building around an EATX board and wanted to have good airflow as well as room to grow, but not so big as to get in the way.

It's not tempered glass, but I don't like the fragility of glass.

Michael Frank

@Ramhound I have cheap alternative...

Does that count?

Ramhound

lol

Bob

@Ramhound I don't understand your comment here superuser.com/questions/1323758/…

the question looks like a pretty specific problem?

Ramhound

He used multiple windows tags.

Burgi

@MichaelFrank the wheelie office chair doesn't count

Ramhound

2:14 AM

Should I just delete it and retract the close vote?

Michael Frank

@Burgi No, it's a racing chair styled seat.

It just cost me $160 from an Office supply store.

Journeyman Geek

I kinda want a secret labs.

Bob

@Ramhound eh, that's not really a problem

Journeyman Geek

since they're local, and I can't afford an aeon ;)

Bob

if he used windows-7 and windows-10 I'd find that dodgy

but windows-10 and windows-10-v1703 is a decent way to localise the problem (to 1703) while leaving it broadly tagged (windows-10) for the bigger audience

Journeyman Geek

2:16 AM

yup

Bob

in a "just in case it's not 1703-specific" way

Ramhound

Alright. I will just delete the comment and retract the close vote.

Bob

windows is a bit of a special case here because it's so big

same goes for co-using, say, linux and ubuntu tags

Ramhound

So what is considered an "accessory" on a chair? The wheels?

Journeyman Geek

hmm

some chairs have optional arm, back rests, lumbar cushions, wheel options

Ramhound

2:22 AM

Lifetime warranty on frame. But weight limit is a concern, metal frame, current chair has lasted (besides the cushion). hmm

Michael Frank

Xbox Adaptive Controller first look: A new, necessary gamepad https://engt.co/2wNFqN9 https://t.co/1P2eYuI0wK

Tweeted by engadget on May 18, 2018 at 2:08 AM

@Burgi Might be useful for you while your fingers heal...

Burgi

you mean @bertieb

Michael Frank

Yes.

I did.

Journeyman Geek

actually

bwDraco

Microsoft sure takes accessibility seriously.

Journeyman Geek

2:25 AM

there's another cool feature

every. single. button. is mapped out to a 3.5mm socket

Michael Frank

Yup

Terry Crews could game with just his muscle twitches...

Journeyman Geek

or you can use that as the basis for a custom controller

say for an arcade cabinet or such, with a much much lower barrier to entry

I mean, sure you could use a arduino

Bob

huh, I broke 40k at some point

Canadian Luke

Good job

Michael Frank

I wonder if it would stack up against arcade sticks for the competitive gaming scene.

Journeyman Geek

2:36 AM

@Bob these things happen ;p

Ave

@MichaelFrank probably not.

I'm only going to be talking about TGM1 community but well, this won't cut it for them

Ramhound

3:03 AM

"The first is the promise of seamless compatibility with the newer Microsoft Office formats" - I don't believe that any office suite is seamless with Office formats except Office. There are far to many features of the format that are not documented for that to happen.

Although I must say SoftMaker FreeOffice 2018 looks exactly like Office :-)

The upgrade to 1803 on this VM created a random user

Just W.O.N.D.E.R.F.U.L

Journeyman Geek

3:20 AM

0_0

Ramhound

Looks like user selection was just not working correctly for some reason

Too tired to finish patching it :$

bwDraco

Covering up both sides of a high-power case fan makes it spin fastee because the blades are not moving air anymore. I love how my high-speed Delta fan can run in excess of 7,000 RPM when covered up while consuming much less power :p

Obviously, it's not actually useful when it's not moving air, but just how fast will the thing run in vacuum at the max 12.8V input? :p

Durinf the experiments, the fan measured almost 90 dBA at these speeds, and it sounded like the bearing wasn't built to handle these sorts of speeds. It was designed for 5,200 RPM, not 8,000 RPM.

Ave

one of my partners does competitive overclocking and uh, she told me earlier that you can usually go around ~15V on delta fans (for not too long amounts of time ofc) without irreversibly damaging them

so yeah, I wonder how high you can go on those.

Journeyman Geek

.... yanno, I know exactly where I can find 35v fans the size of a dinner plate....

bwDraco

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213001

A fan doing 85 dBA is pretty alarming FWIW.

Ave

3:29 AM

dear god that's expensive

Journeyman Geek

.... what's that sign?

Ave

turkish lira

bwDraco

Turkish lira.

US$28.21 from Newegg. This thing is not cheap.

I have another mostly unused one. The one I normally use is being used mainly for ventilation purposes and not inside a PC.

Ave

that's around 3x more than that I'd expect to pay for a regular fan

and by regular fan I mean something that isn't like RGB or smth

bwDraco

Heck, Noctua fans can run upwards of $20 a pop.

Ave

3:33 AM

(one of my partners has LL120RGBs on her case and they. are. gorgeous.)

bwDraco

(the NF-A14 PWM is $21.75, and the next-generation NF-A12x25 with Sterrox LCP impeller is $29.90)

allquixotic

fans you say?

See inside the GE9X, GE's newest game-changer

►

Journeyman Geek

3:47 AM

that's a little large, expensive, and you have a small risk of FOD damage.

and by small I mean... your PC will be in small pieces

Bob

4:01 AM

@bwDraco about 0 RPM sustained

bwDraco

Why "about" or "approximately" in this context?

Feb 24 '17 at 2:31, by Bob

Given that I currently have approximately zero access?

Mar 27 '15 at 3:13, by Bob

XP has approximately zero support for GPT

Bob

@bwDraco A fan doing 85 dBA isn't too far off your typical DC :P

bwDraco

Feb 19 at 3:55, by Bob

I'd guess approximately none

Journeyman Geek

cause we're pedants, and impresision makes us feel better ;)

Bob

@bwDraco cause it's a joke. about 0 RPM when your coil burns out from lack of cooling

bwDraco

4:05 AM

The stator isn't exactly cooled during normal operation FWIW. It's inside the motor hub.

Hmm...

No air means no convection cooling.

Even if there's very little fan-driven airflow inside the motor hub, convection is still possible in atmosphere. This won't happen in vacuum.

rahuldottech

4:18 AM

Hey. Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but did you know that I hate y'all?

Test went ok, btw. Thanks for asking.

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech You're grounded. Go to your room. Or something something.

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek -.-

I'd come for moral support. But you guys made me laugh. Which works too, I guess...

Journeyman Geek

We aim to please. Or sometimes we aim badly.

Bob

10

Q: Will an SSL certificate prevent cPanel hacks?

The cPanel on my website is being hacked, and I am not sure that the setup my host provides is totally secure. The hack works by intercepting my login. Will an SSL certificate prevent this? If it will, then it would be a lot cheaper than either the host or myself trying to fix a security bug.

I want to cry.

3

Ave

4:33 AM

rubs temples

that's not have it works

allquixotic

@Bob looks like gvisor is a project they spent considerable effort on internally before going open source; commit #2 contains many thousands of lines of Go

(commit 1 just established the repo)

Journeyman Geek

4:51 AM

@Bob @Ave some people just shouldn't run servers?

Ave

I won't say that bc I don't want to sound like an elitist but... maybe

Journeyman Geek

some people, like myself also shouldn't perform surgery ;p

or fly aircraft

Bob

I love this article arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/05/…

"These people publish mugshots and extort for their removal. Here's theirs!"

@JourneymanGeek "Other starboard!"

Journeyman Geek

Precisely!

Ave

today in aveland, ave finds out that just running KMS requires a key by itself.

Journeyman Geek

5:17 AM

lol

only if you want to do it legally trollface

makes sense though, since you don't want random people running a key server at home

I'm sure in a future iteration they'll have an option for a MS login/account for it

azure kms!

and tie that in with azure AD, azure DNS, azure first borns...

Ave

@JourneymanGeek I mean that's literally what I want

Journeyman Geek

lol

oh those sort of things exist.

Ave

yup, azure AD and azure DNS exists

dunno about azure first borns tho

Journeyman Geek

soon

heh, wait what?

@Ave twitter DM

Ave

hm?

Bob

5:31 AM

@Ave and only works with, IIRC, 20 clients minimum

Ave

Bob

like, nothing activates until you have 20 clients registered on it

TML Cat

@MichaelFrank TWSSS

Ave

@Bob hm. TIL.

TML Cat

Ah fuck I'm fucked again.

Journeyman Geek

5:33 AM

if I can iture out how to make it work

Bob

@Ave docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/volume-activation/…

> To qualify for KMS activation, there must be a minimum number of qualifying computers (called the activation threshold). KMS clients will be activated only after this threshold has been met.

> computers running Windows 10, like other client operating system versions, must receive an activation count of 25 or more

so you need at least 25 clients trying to activate at once before any of them go through

Journeyman Geek

ugh

Ave

I fail to see why that's even a thing

Journeyman Geek

@Ave I'd DM you if I could figure out why your name isn't turning up ;p

Bob

There's certain ... tools ... that may or may not exist that people may or may not use to bypass those restrictions. Said tools are, of course, against licensing agreements.

Ave

5:35 AM

I DM'd you

Bob

@Ave Deters home use? idk

Ave

and why would they not want that?

Journeyman Geek

cause they want home users to pay retail?

Bob

@Ave I think beyond that point KMS will basically blindly activate without contacting MS servers.

Journeyman Geek

cause who would have 20 pcs at home

Bob

5:37 AM

It's a loophole for "free" (read: illegal) Windows

For legitimate VL users who have <25 clients, the supported way is with a MAK key.

@Ave see also, reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/47cm1o/…

Journeyman Geek

@Bob though many legit kms servers might be badly configured and open or those same illegal tools could emulate licences...

Ave

problem is I have a bunch of MAK and VL keys

Journeyman Geek

ah

bwDraco

And I think that in the US, you have to have an EIN (business tax ID) to get Software Assurance and therefore Volume Licensing...

Bob

@Ave how is that a problem? :P

TML Cat

5:41 AM

I've blacked out again and ended up somewhere with shit set up some way I have no idea how it became this way but at least its not lube everywhere this time but something I set up because I wanted to help someone. But probably failed miserably at because well, I did that thing again when wwwll dbfusndfuck efufk grksnalfnf eidbsjsjslf rjeidsusksncnsksm sod eosnfkelwdndnw

Bob

@Ave If you have a KMS host key and don't need to support Win7 clients, you can use AD-based activation. No threshold requirement. See blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2013/02/04/… and comments

bwDraco

Or otherwise not offer Software Assurance to individuals not managing PCs on behalf of a business.

Ave

I'll consider that

Bob

@TMLCat ...please stop doing this to yourself :(

bwDraco

@TMLCat Please see a doctor. We care about your health.

Journeyman Geek

5:46 AM

@TMLCat dude if this keeps happening you really need to get help

bwDraco

Is there some form of outreach we can provide?

I would hate to see something bad happen to an established member of our community.

TML Cat

@JourneymanGeek actually I saw my shrink today and talked a lot about some of this shit.

Journeyman Geek

@TMLCat blackouts... are probably a little bit more of the body than the spirit/mind/nonsquishybits

bwDraco

@TMLCat This is not merely a psychological issue. This is a general medical condition which requires physician attention.

TML Cat

But rather that's beside the point. I'm.... Taking a week off drugs as of today, in order to figure some shit out but the problem is the solution I have for helping out a friend of mine who has some issues somewhat relies on me being fucked off my head on drugs. Which is kinda a clusterfuck.

Journeyman Geek

5:49 AM

eh. If you can't keep yourself straight, how will your help your friend?

there's gotta be other ways.

ok, dude. I know you're not quite right, but that's not an excuse to start using language like that.

TML Cat

Yes yes yes, I need to be somewhere other than here.

Hold on I'll close my browser

bwDraco

in The Side Channel, 4 hours ago, by bwDraco

Please keep the language clean. We want this place to be safe for work. The occasional expletive is okay, but please don't just use profanity for its own sake.

@TMLCat, ultimately, we care about your well-being. Please see a doctor as soon as you can.

Journeyman Geek

Sorry about that. I do realise this is a hard time

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