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00:03
I did not realise Shakespeare wrote Star Wars...
Iambic pentameter or GTFO
That's what it says!
> Return to the star-crossed galaxy far, far away as the brooding young hero, a power mad emperor, and their jesting droids match wits, struggle for power, and soliloquize in elegant and impeccable iambic pentameter. Illustrated with beautiful black-and-white Elizabethan-style artwork, these two plays offer essential reading for all ages. Something Wookiee this way comes!
So it doth
It doth so.
Verily, I skimmed the description
A couple of quotes passages would help (probably skimmed past that too)
00:10
I bought the A New Hope copy.
Ah, cool
Harrumph, I am not a fan of HNQs being used as question audits
I'm looking at the accepted answer to the "is a hard drive written with zeros" faster question
And it's... not bad information, just pretty tangential to the question
The actual answer is buried in the middle of the middle paragraph, and doesn't directly address the speed aspect (something something something "filling the drive with all zeroes has no practical benefit")
Were this a real review queue item, I would probably comment
But if I did that here, I think I'd fail the audit
(Although possibly not)
ISTR from long ago taking a positive action on something caused a strange audit fail
Anyway, lessee if commenting causes auditfail
Because I'm curious
Yup
> This has some interesting info to be sure- perhaps it could be improved even more if the bits addressing the users questions were highlighted at the top and addressed the issues (eg speed) directly? :)
STOP! Look and Listen.
This was an audit, designed to see if you were paying attention. You didn't pass.
megaharrumph
Clearly, the post is so fudging perfect commenting on it is a Bad Thing
handwave the queues work differently
Hell's bells
Even a comment "Welcome to Super User! Great first answer. Please contribute more :)" would fail
handwave unnecessary noise on the post, the way feedback is given is through voting
You can tell I'm irritated because I'm playing out the answers to the Meta complaint question I haven't written yet
00:27
@MichaelFrank i got that for my friend
anyway i'm really going to bed now
Hah!
Started searching
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A: Commenting on a “High-quality” audit

FooshI think there needs to be another type of review, one that reviews the posts chosen for audits. Seems like this type of situation happens often enough where people trying to review are getting failures on faulty logic. My experience was this https://superuser.com/review/first-posts/336393 I ha...

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past!bertieb was clearly irked by this too
And this!
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Q: Design flaw in the review audit system

fixer1234My question is a little different from this previous Meta question: Commenting on a high quality audit. A high-quality question was masqueraded as a new question. All of the previous comments and stats were hidden. I offered a helpful hint to the OP in the form of a comment, after which I was ...

past!bertieb was a busy little upvoter
I normally review all audits as their original post to see if they're trying to trick me.
I agree audits can be laughably easy to spot, and clicking through to check the post is one such way
But punishing commenting on high-quality posts is asinine and counterproductive
00:35
I mean, the chances of the system being changed now after years of it being set up like this are small
So to some extent I am tilting at buildings with large sail-like fins for the purposes of catching the wind to mill grain
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@ThatBrazilianGuy welp.
But -- in my finest Leonard McCoy voice -- dammit Jim, it's not right!
 
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01:57
Bluetooth absolute volume works with Windows 10 version 1803!
Jan 9 at 8:58, by allquixotic
@Bob this new build of Windows integrated flat volumes (AVRCP whatever)
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02:16
@JourneymanGeek @allquixotic Scaleway now has Denverton cores. But you only get half the cores/RAM/disk space for the same price as before.
They're discontinuing Avoton at the end of May
ow
@Bob though I'm probably sticking to their dedis
and I still have my 8/8gb core avaton for some reason
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> Another great example is the baseboard management controller (or BMC.) In a standard server using an Aspeed AST2400 BMC (ARM9 based) will have 40% or more of the idle power draw from the ARM SoC rather than the Intel SoC
O_O
Denverton? is that the latest Xeon-D?
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02:31
@allquixotic Latest server Atom
Avoton was C2xxx, Denverton is C3xxx
ah
I have an ancient server with low-power Westmere-EPs (two, so they're the full-scale ones with lots of L3) and a basically modern single-proc E5 Ivy Bridge, so I think I'm good between those :P
my servers waste a lot of energy :P
02:53
Error 404 occured, I will call the maid (@allquixotic)
@ChatBotJohnCavil Not sure if bot or someone controlling bot... o.O
@MichaelFrank known bug with the bot's startup routines, IIRC
03:09
@ToxicFrog correct - just restarted the bot following Ubuntu 18.04 upgrade in the container
(thanks for telling @MichaelFrank)
!!info
@allquixotic I awoke on Fri, 04 May 2018 02:53:29 GMT (that's about 16 minutes ago), haven't done anything yet!
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hm
this is suspicious
I wrote a fairly long answer
and got an upvote about 20 secs after I posted
no way did someone read the whole thing...
yesterday, by Bob
I'm a simple man: I see Alconja, I upvote. — IAmInPLS Sep 27 '16 at 13:49
Is long, must be correct.
@Bob Maybe someone like IAmInPLS did that.
03:15
@bob Leave some rooms, I can't see your SU profile by clicking your chat icon/name. lol
@MichaelFrank he keeps chat rooms just like he keeps tabs in his browser
he probably has every chatroom he's joined opened in 5 or 6 different tabs
^That's a lot of rooms.
More than me ;p
But I mostly stick to the big rooms
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A: Does buffer overflow change data type of variable it is overwriting?

BobNo. The "data type" of a variable is only relevant in source code (and even then only in some languages). It tells the compiler how to treat the variable. Data types do not exist as such in compiled (native) code. The compiler could equally generate instructions that operate on individual bytes...

Though now I see that the example is little-endian 0xDEADBEEF, I wonder if this is a homework question...
*shrug*
hm
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Q: Open CMD and it immediately crashes

vincentypyWhen I open cmd (through Ctrl+R or from system32 folder) in Windows 10, it seems to be running a code (mode 20,5) and after a while, it kills itself. Same problem happens when I try to execute .bat file. Anyone will know how to fix this problem?

It's a dupe. But the best fit for dupe target is on SO
I have a possibly-maybe dupe target on SU but it's more of an answer match than a question match.
And I'm hesitant to suggest it cause that's my own answer :P
 
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06:30
oh man
I came home, tried to stay up till lunch
and fell asleep until 2
Bob
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o.O
I went to bed at 2 and woke up with an email saying a good friend had a baby
That, and the accompanying definitely-manly squeal of delight helped me not go back to sleep
But horoscope definitely predicts plenty of caffeine in my future
@JourneymanGeek doyou have multiple nights in a row to do?
ya
also today
ouch
bit of advice - I used to go home, stay up for 1/2 hr or so, then go to bed, sleep til 4pm
this was based on aa shift start time of 9pm
06:33
oh
I'm letting myself sleep when I need to
problem is I couldn't do the whole day sleep last week cause I had to take care of my dog
ah ouch
yeah, that's gonna be a killer.
People generally don't understand that a night shift means you need a day to recover
I did about 3 hours of napping yesterday
and they are like 'oh you'll be fine!'
ah lol
or if you only did night shift
06:36
Also was stressed out over ... stuff ;p
its kinda in the "its not in our hands" stage so I'm cool ;p
@JourneymanGeek Aww, how's Ash doing?
much happier since the whole family is back
Apparently he's taken to guarding sleeping in my room when I'm away.
he usually dosen't like to be alone
D'aww. Good that he's doing better :)
Oh he's fine. ;p
Is there really no way to convert a MySQL database to SQL Server?
I used SSMA and it converted most of the tables, but not their data. Then I tried export the data from mysqldump as INSERT statements and then running them in SSMA, but they throw all sorts of errors.
It's kinda pathetic
06:49
Not easily?
I think the sql dialects are different
but that's why typically there's a layer in the middle if you wanted to support more than one DB, and conversaion is probably a complex script
(feel free to let me know I'm wrong if I am ;p)
07:07
morning
@JourneymanGeek sup?
lol
many many things
@DemCodeLines I presume you've seen this docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/ssma/mysql/…
 
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08:31
morning
the landlords have promised me that come hell or high water my oven saga will be sorted today
Hopefully you wont have either of those things
I mean, floods are bad
But floods and fire
08:54
lol
09:08
@JourneymanGeek +1
floods OF fire.
My old oven had the most stupid ciruitry.
the clock would get steam in it
which caused it to fuse
which would stop the oven lighting
10:00
yeah
oven repair guy came, was like "you can replace the clock unit, forl ike £200, or I can just disconnect it and the oven works again!"
 
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11:04
lol
11:16
woooo 2 more switches removed from the mess of a network :D
only maybe another 8 to go
Though I think one of those will stick around.
Network stuff is even haunting me here? :(
11:32
@Seth I'm a network administrator, so yeah
So you guys have a union and you're hunting me?
It's just that I've talked to our network administrators a lot in the past few days and I'm starting to question my sanity.
i question your sanity too
@Ramhound its a rahul... tsk!
Thanks for the heads up
No one has.... flagged... it?
Oh I lost my sanity.
I am not sure. When I find potentially harmful spam, i typically, bring it to the regulars for a fast removal. Harmless pill spam is different.
@Ramhound oh sure
I'd just flag it too, to assist any training of AI's
11:56
I certainly have
@Burgi it's healthy to do sometimes ... but right now is not the time to do that. Currently I'm feeling a bit lost...
@Seth not sure if having fun on a friday afternoon, or you're having semi-real issues which you'd like to talk about
aka 'U k hun?'
!!define hun
@allquixotic My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
12:07
I'm just upset about work. I've spend multiple days explaining to our network people what we should be doing to get something to work. I wrote it down, made excel sheets with colors, showed them the official documentation. Most of that is DNS stuff. The answers I get usually feel like a "yeha whatever" followed by asking whenever those new routes they setup are helping. I just don't know what to do anymore short of shouting at them.
@Seth what's your role?
I'm kinda on the opposite side
but.... the people who come to us with problems, don't have anything that looks like documentation :D
"Regular System Administrator" would probably the best description and I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. The documentation I'm working with isn't that monolithic well versed document of ultimate truth but certainly something you can work with.
If I hand you a table that has a DNS name, the current address that it's pointing to and the address that it should be pointing to I'd assume you'd either be able to tell me why you think my table is wrong or be able to make the necessary changes.
12:32
@Seth yeha whatever
Yes, bitching about work is bad. Sorry.
12:46
Hah.
I've done that a lot
13:04
@Seth urgh
so instead of fixing the DNS, they added routes?
13:52
wtf...?
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Q: How do I respond to someone apologizing for coughing/yawning?

Lord FarquaadMany times I'll be talking to someone and they'll yawn or cough (or something similar), then say "excuse me", or "sorry". I have no idea what type of response to give to this. If they'd sneezed, then that's no problem; I'd just say "bless you", and life goes on. However, as far as I know, there...

Americans. D:
how do they not just die?
What were they all doing before IPS?
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Q: Where and how exactly does my server need to be placed in order to be GDPR-compliant?

OlegI tried googling for information about GDPR-compliance, but almost everything was quite theoretical. From what I understood, my company's servers need to be locked, but are there specifications on how? Do they need to be in a separate room, or is it enough to lock the rack they are placed in?

People don't get it, lul
14:11
Every time someone mentions IPS I think the type of computer display.
Also someone forgot to mention the risk of electrostatic discharge damage when connecting two monitors!
@djsmiley2k shame, I found network engineering one of the most sanity preserving areas of IT to work in.
yeah it is
I just ignore all outside influence :D
Work are looking for a Sysadmin and a Networking person if anyones interested
Not remote.
Not sure what else to say ;D
/me posts @bertieb ;D @DavidPostill @Burgi :D
@FMLCat you can read this so you don't need poking
no thanks
:D
> This command has no effect on this line; use modem AT commands instead
This command has no effect on this line; use modem AT commands instead
Thanks Cisco, that helps
wtf is the command tho :/
14:58
researching these google maps changes its like you are actually getting more the free tier
@Burgi well that's good
15:35
the interface is hideously confusing#
16:03
@djsmiley2k Wait what?
@djsmiley2k yes, that's what they did. I don't know how they came up with that. I'll talk to them on monday... maybe they'll listen otherwise I'll probably escalate it to the next level.
Bob has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
I don't need poking because I can read but the other three can't? I'm the non-human here!
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I wonder if that'll work
hm... probably not a good idea actually
16:13
Bob has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
Well, you are a cat. Right @FMLCat? ;)
What'll work? Sorry, not been following the conversation
@Bob heh, what did you do? ;p
@Bob Yay I know more about something than Bob!
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@FMLCat I added the Dilbert feed cause @Burgi posts it often. Then deleted it like 2 mins later.
16:16
those messages are infuriatingly useless
ah
@Bob Ah. I think it's funny.
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Yea just realised it's daily so a feed might be a bit spammy
also ROs can apparently edit feeds but can't create feed-specific users (like XKCD has)
also I thought you were asleep @JourneymanGeek :P
Once a day is hardly spammy
working late
If it was like four times a day then it might be spammy.
16:19
I think the XKCD feed's kinda a SE thing? Its been around as long as I can remember
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@JourneymanGeek was more judging by your offline-ness on steam tbh
oh
I ran out of data ;p
@Bob Tends to happen when you're at work?
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@JourneymanGeek nah I remember when we added it ... was the most recent feed actually, and some time after cavil was added
was waiting for the weekend cause I have unlimited data
16:20
Then again I did have Steam and several games on my work computer in my last job
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@JourneymanGeek out... of data? O_O
@Bob hit my limit. Nearly at least
Yeah, how the... I got like 100GB for 20 bucks when I was in Singapore
@FMLCat 0_0
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@JourneymanGeek I remember we talked about the feed user a couple years back when xkcd was added
16:21
apparently my laptop was gobbling a gig ever 3 days
I think it was trying to update and failing
@JourneymanGeek Well maybe a bit more than 20 bucks... but we discussed this at the time, apparently it's a frequently repeated offer
oh, on a postpaid plan
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@JourneymanGeek uhm. if you're tethering you should probably mark the network as metered
Prepaid
supposed to be 8gb a month, but was on it prorated
@Bob I THOUGHT I did
16:21
Wait you or me?
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@FMLCat He's getting old; his memory's going :P
weekends are unlimited tho
@Bob It... doesn't always obey.
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@FMLCat ...shit
And it definitely never obeys immediately
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16:22
I often tether on my 20 GB hotspot. The one that charges $10/GB if I go over.
Because Telstra.
@FMLCat I have the network saved as metered
Heh. My "unlimited" package on 3 silently charges 1p per megabyte if you go over the silent limit of 1000GB (I've mentioned this before), which is pretty much £10 a gigabyte.
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also apparently I HNQ'd/repcapped o.O
thought that would happen yesterday, not today
Outside of that Vodafone is the only network that automatically charges overage charges and those are like £6 per 250MB (even if you only use 1KB over).
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*checks nbn*
(And you wonder why they manage to keep the top position for most complained about network six years running)
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16:24
> Planned availability: Jan-Jun 2019
sooo. a year after originally the last schedule
so much for the "6 month" delay
@Bob Pretty normal for just about every fibre-assisted broadband rollout I've seen in any country.
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@FMLCat all the postpaid plans charge overages here, with no way to disable :\
@FMLCat I was supposed to have this ~2014
and it was supposed to be FTTP
5 years later and HFC... welp.
I'm torn between thinking all civil contractors are epically incompetent, or the managers deliberately fudge the numbers to be unrealistically optimistic, in order to secure contracts where realistic estimates would not be good enough.
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@FMLCat you forgot the government is involved in this one
and a strange refusal to listen to expert opinion until everything blows up in their face
@Bob Meh, BT announced back in '10 or something their "fibre" rollout was going to be FTTP to ~30% of UK premises, then a few years later admitted they'd only managed 0.3% and revised the target down to <3%
G.Fast is being rolled out pretty fast though, my whole area is covered, and most of the cabs got upgraded before I even heard about it (granted, I found myself accidentally in a pre-release trial area so the works were naturally done before public announcement)
Unfortunately can't order it yet, but the cabs are there. The way they've rolled it out is stupid and ridiculous though.
They spent six years rolling out FTTC, by installing a second cabinet next to the existing telephone cabinet, running fibre to the new cab, and running a hundred jumper cables between the two to link it up to the existing telephone lines. Now the G.Fast rollout is replacing the old telephone cab with a built-in DSLAM, and they're running jumper cables to the FTTC cab next to it to get fibre in.
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16:30
@FMLCat We're still on VDSL, I'm pretty sure
End result is the fibre is now running an average of 10m closer to the end user's premesis.
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"we" meaning networks with that kind of distance
"we" as in me is on ADSL
We skipped VDSL and went straight to VDSL2, not that there's a huge difference when they're using VDSL1 profiles anyway
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@FMLCat sorry, I meant VDSL2
(and ADSL2+)
But yeah, the new "strategy" BT have announced to appease the government, and their plan for now to 2025 to make up for their lack of true FTTP deployment, is to move the equipment from the FTTC cab that's next to the PCP, and attach it to the PCP, thus running fibre a whole 10 metres closer to the premises... -_-
The ability to buy broadband without a voice phone service is still in trials apparently, for another six months
@Bob Ah. Same as we had here then
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16:34
@FMLCat huh. is that voip?
@Bob no, just standalone "naked DSL" as they used to call it
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@FMLCat maybe I'm misunderstanding.
My shiny new 330Mbps G.Fast cabinet, equipped with shiny new graffiti, before it's even operational
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@FMLCat it's speed graffiti - it makes it go faster
@Bob In this country you're forced to pay for a voice telephone subscription in order to get a DSL service on top of it, which means paying for a voice call package that includes inclusive calls and a phone number. You can't get DSL without the phone service.
People such as myself who haven't used a landline for decades have been whinging for decades to be allowed to get a DSL service without paying for an unnecessary call package and phone number we'll never use.
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16:39
@FMLCat does that include internet + voip bundles, or do you mean it needs to be PSTN?
@Bob PSTN.
Actual analogue voice service.
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ugh
Even if it were VOIP I wouldn't use it, my mobile's unlimited to all national numbers and free roaming in tons of places anyway.
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@FMLCat We've had naked DSL as an option for quite a while. I think all new packages bundle VOIP (pay as you go, connection nominally 'free')
NBN won't support PSTN at all, even on the FTTN connections
(Sadly my favourite network withdrew their app-based VOIP mobile service in order to deploy VoLTE, bleh.)
@Bob Hah, Australia ahead of the UK for once in broadband matters!
Companies here like to rip us off with the minimum call package you can get being unlimited weekend and evening calls for about £18 a month.
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16:41
ugh
@FMLCat yea I haven't touched a landline in years
At least the government forced companies to include that price in the headline price when advertising broadband deals now, so they can't advertise £5 broadband* (+£18 voice service), they have to advertise it as £23.
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even if I didn't have more mobile credit than I knew what to do with (and all new plans are unlimited now), I'd use something like skype
hm
something under the right side of my monitor is making weird ticking noises
something under the left side is making weird fizzing/sizzling/squealing noises
Yup. Or WhatsApp or Telegram or Facebook messenger or whatever the kids are into these days.
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@FMLCat well, I meant the skype local call thing
basically voip to landline *shrug*
@Bob electrical fire?
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16:44
brb hunting down sizzling
hm
I think my QC charger is dying
@Bob Oh, I have like 3.
Two of which are multi-port. My Anker QC battery pack is temperamental with both of them (but more temperamental with the Aukey one than the Tronsmart one)
I should really contact Anker support, it's a firmware bug
17:00
Speaking of data plans and ISPs, there seems to be some problem with my ISP.
I am well past my daily allowance and I am still online.
Lmao, "Street Side Dslam Cab" comes up as a possible address when using BT's broadband availability checker
Apparently the street side dslam cabinet has a lower minimum speed (73Mbps) than my actual address (74Mbps).
Despite the fact that, y'know, it's the cabinet the service comes from
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godammit
this guy has a profile pic of a curved hair
Note the lack of G.Fast service, despite earlier photograph of cabinet 49, with attached G.Fast cab
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I thought there was hair stuck on my screen
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17:07
@FMLCat the one that's hissing at me is a 5-port tronsmart. One port QC2.0.
@Bob Hmm, mine's a 5-port Tronsmart with all 5 ports being QC (2 or 3 I can't remember). Got it when I realised I needed more than two QC ports that I had on my existing Aukey.
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@FMLCat well it's also like 3 years old by now so... *shrug*
probably a cap dying
Mine's 2 years old? Dunno. These things fail randomly...
> Gigafast Full-fibre Broadband is coming to
Milton Keynes, Aberdeen, Peterborough, Coventry, Edinburgh, Huddersfield and Stirling

We're bringing full-fibre broadband to Milton Keynes, Aberdeen, Peterborough, Coventry, Edinburgh, Huddersfield and Stirling in the first stage of our phased rollout. If you'd like to hear more about how you can benefit from speeds up to 1 Gigabit per second (1000 Mbps), then please enter your details below so we can keep you up to date.
Yay! Except er... no mention of when that'll be
> We’ll be undertaking a wide-scale construction project throughout Edinburgh to expand our network to reach almost every premise in the city. The result will be a fit-for-purpose and future-proof digital infrastructure that will provide huge and wide-ranging benefits to the entire community for years to come.
Oh hey I've seen some of that around the corner.
Man we're spoilt in this city... 350Mbps HFC, 330Mbps G.Fast and FoD, 450Mbps LTE-A, and soon 1000Mbps FTTP all from different providers.
"soon"
17:25
Coventry
wut
who's this with btw?
I'll happily test it for them :D
wtf is this
I love how smooth RDP is, even on a cellular data connection.
So... what are some good free resources for learning the basics of Docker?
(at work right now but on break; got enough time to RDP into Astaroth and start the VM)
17:52
The Docker readme?
And FWIW, I'm missing a lot of key concepts like DevOps. Since I don't actually work in a DevOps environment, how can I get started?
google
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