Root Access

Bob

00:14

morn

@allquixotic To be fair, Westmere is a [slightly] different uarch from Nehalem. And Westmere servers are quite common (and have a long useful life) vs desktops.

William

01:18

anyone around that knows anything about relays and fuses?

allquixotic

01:31

@Bob it's a tick to Nehalem's tock, right?

Bob

@allquixotic ya

allquixotic

@Bob oddly enough, my dad still has a Nehalem i7-920 in his main desktop

too lazy to upgrade to the 3770K I have sitting around in a box somewhere

(with a mobo and 32 GB of DDR3)

it's been in a box for so long that I sold my 6700K in the intervening years when I upgraded to coffee lake :P

Journeyman Geek

01:50

@allquixotic that's still my daily driver ;p

@ThatBrazilianGuy the core i9 is intel's attempt to handle the threadrippers

Journeyman Geek

02:09

this... may be the greatest story ever told

Tweeted by matthewchampion on April 4, 2018 at 9:19 AM

this story is even better than the version I heard.

Michael Frank

holy ginormous onebox!

Journeyman Geek

._.

Speaking of c2ds

I 'upgraded' my dad's laptop with one of the cheap chinese SSDs I bought... 120gb

dad was complainining the system was full... turns out he had 90gbs of movies on his desktop... despite having a 1tb external hooked up

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek Windows Storage Spaces JBOD?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic tempting but If anything didn't quite work as designed, more work for me.

Bob

@allquixotic Storage Spaces has a lot of overhead

Journeyman Geek

02:16

oh yes

this is the c2d

Bob

nono

space overhead

allquixotic

@Bob really?

Bob

not processing

allquixotic

ah

Bob

well, maybe processing

@allquixotic lemme dig up that Q

allquixotic

02:17

Windows really needs ZFS or something like it (with boot support, c'mon ReFS!)

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic my dad needs to get annoyed enough to replace his PC

or there needs to be a major failure

;p

Bob

@allquixotic superuser.com/questions/1288049/storage-spaces-out-of-space

Also the "Using 10.8 TB pool capacity" basically means your 4 x 2.72 TB = 10.88 TB is full. Possibly due to overhead, see community.spiceworks.com/topic/…. — Bob Jan 23 at 6:29

Journeyman Geek

tbh, I also think my dad would be a lot happier with a decent sized screen and a NUC or mini ITX (with a big drive) but... I'd need to convince him of that ;p

allquixotic

electrolytic caps on the mobo? that's all I can figure

the CPU won't fail probably ever because they have so many protective electronics designed to keep the CPU happy and they have an excellent margin of error

Journeyman Geek

(old, IBM era thinkpad)

Its turning into the 3310 of PCs ;p

Michael Frank

02:20

@JourneymanGeek Good lord that is an amazing story though.

allquixotic

I still have the last pre-Lenovo IBM Thinkpad, the X60, and it boots

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank oh the version I heard only involved the birds

allquixotic

although I had to replace its HDD long ago

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic its an R61

allquixotic

so it's not an OEM HDD

Journeyman Geek

02:20

so just around the changeover

@allquixotic swapped out the HDD for a SSD, went to windows 10 over XP

Michael Frank

I have a bunch of , I believe, T30 and T40 IBMs in my server room at work.

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank not surprised

you often need serial ports and the only component that needs replacing on an old thinkpad's the battery

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank for what?!

Michael Frank

@allquixotic For... fun?

allquixotic

what do you do with them?

throw them as weapons when people try to invade the DC?

Journeyman Geek

02:23

@allquixotic native serial ports

still very useful, and sometimes more reilable than USB to serial

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek and why do you need those in a server room?

Michael Frank

No, they're all just sitting there waiting for disposal.

Journeyman Geek

serial access to servers, switches...

IE when things go horribly wrong.

allquixotic

> switches

I guess that part makes sense

Journeyman Geek

yup

allquixotic

02:26

servers? geez they must be old

Journeyman Geek

IIRC its still a valid oh shit method to get onto a server

allquixotic

I thought it'd be the mechanism for unbricking if the BIOS gets corrupted

Journeyman Geek

oh

allquixotic

like, someone over IPMI does a BIOS update and powers it off during it

Journeyman Geek

eheheheh

eevblog did that

allquixotic

02:27

link? I love that guy

Journeyman Geek

He literally connected a programmer to a header for that

One moment!

allquixotic

but I haven't seen enough of his videos

Journeyman Geek

EEVblog #1071 - (UPDATED) Dumpster Dive HP Envy Touch PC REPAIR

►

for those who don't have half an hour or so for the tasty bits

Michael Frank

I have an Acer touchscreen AIO... with a cracked corner of the touch panel...

The right half of the screen works well, but gets progressively worse as you work to the left.

Journeyman Geek

systats.or8.net/hpspi

That's more or less the "non dave" but still crazy skilled way to fix it ;p

Bob

02:41

@allquixotic Most motherboards have some protection against that now.

Well, by "most" I mean the 'gaming'/enthusiast ones, I guess.

IIRD Gigabyte has two nvram chips, so it can fall back to the second one and let you reflash the first

Asus has a fallback flash-from-USB-on-specific-port mode

allquixotic

02:53

@JourneymanGeek <3

Journeyman Geek

@Bob big brand stuff can be a bit...

I mean the failure reason is getting bricked by a bios update

allquixotic

> Unhappy user and/or machine owner.

Bob

@allquixotic Unhappy user owner?

Journeyman Geek

Always the first symptom

bwDraco

03:28

@Bob BIOS Flashback. I've never used it before; have always flashed the firmware from within the firmware setup.

FML Cat

04:12

Journeyman Geek

05:06

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

rahuldottech

@ds_secret Only my main website. It's undergoing a redesign

@JourneymanGeek I saw that on twitter, it's hilarious

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech heh, that's where I saw it too though I read a slightly abridged version on the beeb

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Did you see my intense trolling? ^

Journeyman Geek

Trolling is not cool :(

rahuldottech

Man. I really thought I could get away with using HTML to make an AI

@JourneymanGeek This was playful. And funny.

Journeyman Geek

05:26

hm

news.slashdot.org/story/18/04/05/2044259/… oops?

man

yro.slashdot.org/story/18/04/05/1329207/…

is everyone having a bad time?

Journeyman Geek

05:57

@ThatBrazilianGuy complicated, expensive and run by consultants ;p

though I thought ghost was what most of the cool kids used now

djsmiley2k

07:12

Sigh

i spend half my working life, doing work for someone else who could do it themselves

but don't, because either they can't figure out how, or.... are just lazy

@allquixotic Sounds right, I believe I've got the first Lenovo one, the X61 ;D

@rahuldottech you trolling again?

Journeyman Geek

07:45

@djsmiley2k he was ;p

I do think trying to trick people to show you're somehow smarter kinda...

djsmiley2k

Huh?

@JourneymanGeek I don't.... get what you just tried to say

Journeyman Geek

lol

@djsmiley2k oh, first context

14 hours ago, by rahuldottech

I assume the trolling starts here ;p

and he's basically trying to convince a newbie he dosen't know anything

but but

what's the point?

unrelatedly other than talking about smart people...

I feel guilty about it, but when I have to throw together a quick 2D Android test app, I often Stack Overflow it. I haven’t been able to make myself interested in really learning the gestalt of Android UI programming.

Tweeted by ID_AA_Carmack on April 6, 2018 at 2:00 AM

er

Burgi

08:11

morning

@JourneymanGeek isn't that John Carmack?

Journeyman Geek

I was going to ask who Aidian Carmack is

Burgi

THEY BOTH WORKED AT iD, LEAVE ME ALONE!

Journeyman Geek

Yup, that is.

Also, whoever manages SO's twitter account seems... savvy

Burgi

have you read masters of doom?

it was the "AA" in the user name that threw me off the scent

Journeyman Geek

08:28

Nope

Michael Frank

@allquixotic It seems the CPU in my "slightly" out-of-date gaming PC is getting a fix... but my motherboard has not had a BIOS update published for 5 years...

Burgi

its a book about the two john's of id and their rise to fame

very good

Bob

@MichaelFrank afaik you can hey microcode updates via os too

Journeyman Geek

Yup

djsmiley2k

08:59

hey hey!

So many many many many years ago, I worked in a lan gaming center, right

And to this day, I still don't know if my boss was mistaken, an idiot, or thought it was a funny joke

but basically he had some polish guy, called Carmack come and work for us for like 2 months

I like to think, that the boss thought (and still thinks) that, that guy was John Carmack

Burgi

09:31

lol

just sent the new guy home because he looked like death

Journeyman Geek

black cloak, skull head, glowing eyes, scythe?

djsmiley2k

rofl

Journeyman Geek

(or the indian version, which is a fat guy with a lasso on a water buffalo...)

@djsmiley2k Oh yes, and Aɴᴅ Tᴀʟᴋs Sᴏᴍᴇᴛʜɪɴɢ Lɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜɪs

djsmiley2k

haha, how did you do that :O

plz don't use the death voice on me!

Journeyman Geek

09:46

googled for a smallcaps converter, found something VERY dodgy and used it anyway.

manytools.org/facebook-twitter/smallcaps-text-tool was the one I used

Burgi

the very pale and tall bit

i think he has picked up a stomach bug or something

Journeyman Geek

Sometimes you could murder a curry, sometimes the curry... could try to murder you.

djsmiley2k

10:49

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhha

> My Rabbits Name is: Aurora

Seems innoculous

Is Ann Summers teamleader

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Burgi

wait what....?

djsmiley2k

In an email signature.

Burgi

her... um... "female stress reliever" has a name?

djsmiley2k

@Burgi I think so D:

Burgi

i'd hate to work for a lingerie company,

djsmiley2k

10:56

heh

I'm just breakin their networks ;D

Journeyman Geek

11:10

She might actually have a rabbit

Hennes

I tried to parse this, but bots might just be getting smarter

0

Q: My computer is an HP Pavilion h8-1360t running Windows 7; it has 16 gb of ram irunning at 3.4 GHz

I recently accidentally moved at least one on my major folder branches (I believe it was the result of a sticky mouse key(s) not breaking contact immediately during a drag & drop operation; flushing with electrical circuit cleaner has helped, but I may need to replace it, a prized possession deca...

mouse

"flushing with electrical circuit cleaner has helped" sort of gave it away though

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek Well maybe

but would you put that on your email sig?

Burgi

@Hennes VTC as unclear

@djsmiley2k is "aurora" the noise she makes when she is... having a crisis do you think?

Hennes

I wonder if he flushed the mouse or the motherboard

djsmiley2k

;D

welp i approved the edit to remove the email address \o/

Burgi

11:15

djsmiley2k

someiones watching you through a blank newspaper?

Burgi

juno dot com, the ISP where creepy ladies watch you over your shoulder

> Hundreds of Games with Unlimited Play*

> *More details and limitations

hmmm... SOUNDS LEGIT

Journeyman Geek

Juno is.... Old-school

Burgi

yeah...

djsmiley2k

11:33

> t reports on an online campaign raising money for the pensioner's legal fees, named locally as Richard Osborn-Brooks, which calls for "better treatment" of homeowners who defend themselves against intruders.

Don't mess with R.O.B.

Burgi

the guy he killed was a known career criminal

djsmiley2k

yup

good on him

\o/

If it was a known terrorist, even better ;D

Journeyman Geek

I'm reminded of that movie where Michael Caine plays this badass pensioner ;p

djsmiley2k

he also looks like Mr Miyagi

@JourneymanGeek Isn't that just Michael Caine now?

Journeyman Geek

True

Harry Brown (film)

Harry Brown is a 2009 British vigilante action-thriller film directed by Daniel Barber and starring Michael Caine, Emily Mortimer, Jack O'Connell, and Liam Cunningham. The story follows Harry Brown, a widowed Royal Marines veteran who had served in Northern Ireland during The Troubles, living on a London housing estate that is rapidly descending into youth crime. After a violent gang murders his friend, Harry decides to take justice into his own hands. The film also features actor and rapper Plan B who, with Chase & Status, is also responsible for the film's theme music track "End Credits." Harry...

I was thinking of this specific one of many

Burgi

11:45

i like michael caine's attitude to work

he never turned down a film role regardless of how bad the film was because he never knew when he'd fall out of favour and not have any work

djsmiley2k

Soooooo we have this weird problem at work

we have some cables which, when external to the rack, are hugely long enough

yet every time we put em in, they are suddenly too short

Now, if I find they are being routed some really stupid route, I'm gonna rage

Journeyman Geek

UK-US-India-Inner Mongolia-US? oh wait///

Burgi

i just found out my IDE keeps track of all the //TODO comments

$installer->telephone=\request('i-phone'); // TODO: pay apple royalties

Journeyman Geek

nice?

Bob

12:28

@JourneymanGeek turns out, the glue residue from removing the daiso tape while at 100 deg is really sticky

I just left it on there and printed on it :P

Journeyman Geek

0_0

djsmiley2k

12:56

100deg?

centigrade?

Journeyman Geek

yup

those 3d printers get hot

allquixotic

medium.com/rethink-reviews/…

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek Well I was about to say I thought they got hotter.

omfg random pain in my arm arugh

allquixotic

interesting... I'm one of those people who can't really use AirPods purely because of the unusual shape/size of my ears, they just fall out and wiggle around and generally aren't usable (they also get slippery after being in my ears for a few minutes despite attempts to clean out my ear first, and the slipperiness helps them fall out easier)

and yet I agree with the article on all points except for a positive review of the AirPods :P I'd give them more of a "meh" review

Bob

@djsmiley2k print bed goes up to 120 but I can only manage 110 without an enclosure... printing at 100 right now. print head at 245

head maxes out around 250 before the PTFE tube gets damaged

djsmiley2k

13:04

'only manage 110C' - what happens?

Bob

an all metal head can probably hit 300

djsmiley2k

or it can't generate enough heat?

Bob

@djsmiley2k cools too fast

djsmiley2k

I don't have any physical experience with 3d printing yet

ah right ok

I know about things loosing heat, I have a turtle and 2 fish tanks :D

Anyone want to buy me some glass/perspex?

As I can't afford anything this month :(

amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LHSLT2C/…

OH GOD SO MANY IDENTICAL COLOURS!

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic I have the same problem with most earbuds...

How I Upgraded My iPhone Memory 800% - in Shenzhen, China

►

I have no idea why the flash burner talks but... that is the oddest piece of hardware I have ever seen.

allquixotic

13:19

@JourneymanGeek I love Strange Parts videos, but I wish he upgraded the RAM instead of the flash... I already have 256 GB on my iPhone 8 Plus which is plenty... more RAM would probably make it better at multitasking

if an iPhone had, like, 16 gigs of RAM, and the right software, you could use a lightning to DisplayPort connector and some Bluetooth peripherals and literally use it as a good computer at your desk

Burgi

just had to fill out a CAPTCHA on a credit card payment gateway...

djsmiley2k

subb'd

@Burgi that sounds.... secure

Bob

Burgi

13:35

@djsmiley2k it was at worldpay so... shrug

djsmiley2k

they're taking over the world :O

Burgi

bought my friend a leather drinking tankard for his birthday

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic tbh, its more the soldering for me. ;p

allquixotic

13:57

WSH@STL: Morse has single overturned into grand slam

►

looool - even if you're not into baseball, what they make him do at the end is hilarious

Michael

Clickbait much? xD

djsmiley2k

@Burgi Now that's cool.

Michael

You'll never believe what he does at the end!

djsmiley2k

15 ways baseball will make you LOL!

Burgi

with baseball they have taken the essence of cricket and distilled it to something even more dull

Journeyman Geek

14:02

actually no

more likely en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounders

djsmiley2k

rounders was awesome

used to get a mars bar if you hit it over the block at school ;D

Bob

14:32

@allquixotic Dave mentioning Louis? :D youtube.com/watch?v=scvS2yeUH00

within the first 1 min or so

Journeyman Geek

lol ya

and eh

I need to buy a TS 100 at some point ;p

bwDraco

@ThatBrazilianGuy That processor still costs almost a thousand dollars here.

10C/20T, essentially a fully-enabled Skylake-SP LCC die.

Go up from here, and you're talking about HCC silicon.

allquixotic

@Bob I love how he says """NIEEEEW"""

@JourneymanGeek repl.it/@SeanMcNamara1/Geekese

> @allquixotic Lol. Hm ya lol, lol. Lol. Lol lol lol, lol ahh hm, eh hm hm hm hm, ;p, eh ;p hm, ahh ;p. Lol lol eh lol, lol ya ;p. Lol ;p. ;p, lol ;p. Lol. Lol eh lol. Hm eh ;p lol ;p ;p. Eh. Lol. Lol. Ya. ;p ya ya ;p eh. Ahh lol, ahh lol. Lol hm hm lol lol ahh eh lol lol ya ;p ahh lol lol. Ahh, lol lol eh, ;p ya lol. Hm ;p eh hm eh. Lol ;p hm lol eh ahh ;p ahh hm lol hm eh eh ;p. Lol. Ahh ahh.

Journeyman Geek

I apparently eh more than I lol? ;p

allquixotic

no there's more weight on lol than eh in the code - 0.65 vs 0.15

Journeyman Geek

14:43

Also I don't lah much.

Mah sterotypes.

allquixotic

"lah"?

Burgi

its an indian thing

allquixotic

I don't have a "lah" in there

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic its the singaporean equivilent of the canadian eh.

;p

which I apparently don't use at all

allquixotic

yeah, instead of "lah", you say "ahh hm lol hm eh eh ;p"

Journeyman Geek

14:49

I probably say a lot of those IRL

other than lol

XKCD

Plus, the photo was geotagged, my unlocked password manager was visible on the laptop, AND you could see my naked reflection in the dark part of the screen.

4

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek {word: "RUN A WAY!!!", weight: 0.1 }

> @allquixotic Ahh ;p. Hm ya eh lol ;p ya lol ;p ;p lol lol. Hm lol ;p lol ;p, eh lol ;p, lol. Ahh ahh ;p ;p. Run a way!!! lol. Ya ahh eh. ;p lol ;p lol ahh. Ahh RUN A WAY!!! ;p ;p ya lol hm lol lol ahh, eh ahh lol ;p lol ahh eh eh hm ahh hm ahh ;p lol. Run a way!!! RUN A WAY!!! ahh lol, ahh hm. Lol lol RUN A WAY!!! lol hm eh lol, hm lol ahh. Eh. Run a way!!! lol ahh ahh. Eh lol eh lol lol hm ahh ;p lol ;p, hm hm. Ahh ahh eh lol. Ahh, lol ;p ;p.

Journeyman Geek

Technically that's 3 words....

and its run-a-waaaaayyyyyyyyy

allquixotic

I know :p

Journeyman Geek

also if we're talking things I say in gaming

Burgi

14:53

@XKCD lol

Journeyman Geek

"OTHER LEFT! OTHER LEFT!" @Bob ;p

(I still have a post it with "Left" and "Right (other left)" on my monitor )

Burgi

Gender Pay Gap in UK Companies

> One of the biggest names among the worst offenders so far is Ryanair, which reported a 71.8% gender pay gap.

i think this might be a little unfair to ryanair

there are more male pilots than female ones

allquixotic

@Burgi So? If the stat is measuring the difference between average male salary and average female salary, then as long as there's at least one employee of each gender, an average can be calculated for each gender and compared.

It's not measuring the total amount of pay paid out to men vs. women as part of the total company budget

Bob

15:10

@JourneymanGeek lol. we need an excuse to use it again :P

ok, weekend's coming up... someone give me something to print :P

Burgi

@allquixotic its measured across the entire company not across roles

it also doesn't take into account experience, length of service and contract type

the statistics need to be measured across roles and weighted for service etc

if a male pilot earns 45k/yr and a female pilot earns 35k/yr there might be something to this gender pay gap

but the statistics are too high level and don't give enough detail

bwDraco

@Burgi Exactly.

In the US, women are making about 80% of what men make. (sources vary; you'll want to do your own research)

Andy K

weekend !!! giphy.com/gifs/the-weekend-bOYJ8x6YIuFkQ

cya

Burgi

my theory seems to hold out true if you look at the retail sector

> Meanwhile, High Street brands KFC, Matalan, Starbucks, Costa, McDonald's and Primark reported no difference in what they paid their female and male staff.

bwDraco

My gut tells me that the majority of this disparity is caused by women having lower-paying positions, not women being paid less for the same position.

Burgi

15:21

correct

bwDraco

Possible explanation? Educational issues. Women continue to be disadvantaged and not as many are getting into high-paying positions. (There were surprisingly few women in my Computer Science classes.)

Burgi

thats bullshit

bwDraco

Look, everyone deserves a fair chance. Why should women be excluded from the best jobs?

Burgi

its down to biology

women tend to take mid-career breaks for family

bwDraco

Hmm...

Burgi

15:23

they then take roles that fit around family life

bwDraco

Gender stereotypes come back to bite.

ToxicFrog

@Burgi men should be able to do the same, I agree. Paid parental leave for everyone.

Burgi

but it is true

allquixotic

What people miss about the gender wage gap

►

bwDraco

Mar 14 at 6:50, by bwDraco

(don't judge, sewing isn't just for women)

allquixotic

15:29

that's probably the most neutral video I've ever watched about the wage gap, not supercharged with socially rightist commentary like "it's biological" or "men are better at their jobs" etc, and not supercharged with socially leftist (feminist) commentary like "Until men and women can work the same jobs for the same pay regardless of family commitments it's not fair!"

it just lays out the facts...

and the facts pretty clearly show that the way to close the wage gap is to find ways to make existing jobs have more flexible hours (which, trust me, everyone will appreciate, both men and women) or create new jobs with flexible hours

bwDraco

And careers in the IT/software development world are actually quite amenable to flexible hours.

Burgi

hmmm.... we just received an email from a US debt collection agency

is this company legit? amscollections.com

bwDraco

This machine is remarkably well-behaved running FFXV while my photo processing software is batch-processing photos.

Perks of having an 8C/16T processor...

allquixotic

16:07

@Burgi check the mail headers to make sure it's really from an smtp server on that domain

I think it might be legit :S it's got photos on Google Maps, a valid address etc

did you buy anything from a US business?

if someone's trying to collect a debt from you, make sure your own (company's) records indicate that you made the original purchase

djsmiley2k

16:39

@bwDraco cept they mostly aren't

They could be

but 90% aren't in my experience

@Burgi "We" ?

Most programmers have some level of autism, and it's more low functioning autism. Whereas females generally are high level, and so manage to integrate socially better, which leads them away from roles which are highly isolated.

So like.... lighthouse keepers

park wardens

anything isolated from society

programmers largely dont' work in groups, they actually work solo, even when 'in' groups.

pair programming might be different, I've never actually looked exactly at how it works

basically, men will happily split a job into peices, hand out the peices

women would all work on the job together

this is a huge generalisation, but it's also generally true :D

allquixotic

@djsmiley2k on broken software development teams, maybe, but good ones have a lot more collaboration than that, like, small incremental pull requests and interactive code reviews with other team members - even if not doing pair programming there's a ton more collab being done on the best teams

djsmiley2k

K, well maybe I've only ever experienced the bad ones ;D

allquixotic

unless you're one of the 0.00001% of programmers who can churn out thousands of lines of correct code alone

djsmiley2k

maybe most are bad ones ;D

Burgi

@djsmiley2k my company

djsmiley2k

16:48

@allquixotic any experience with companies who actually truely offer working from home/working remotely, rather than 'oh we offer that' but then it's not actually viable

@Burgi Ah right

meh then

allquixotic

@djsmiley2k that's my current company, yeah

djsmiley2k

Does a USA collection agency even have the ability to do anything over here?

@allquixotic worked anywhere else?

allquixotic

I can generally get away with working remote 3 days a week, sometimes more

djsmiley2k

Nice.

Burgi

they are asking for money for a service that we have no knowledge of subscribing to

allquixotic

16:49

@djsmiley2k same company absolutely prohibited working from home just about 4 years ago

djsmiley2k

@allquixotic wow

Burgi

we are no longer offering remote working after the terrible experience we had with the old dev

djsmiley2k

see my experience was 'oh yeah you can work from home' and then constantly 'oh we need you in the office for x,y,z' when all of that could easily of been accomplished from home

@Burgi sadness

but.... why wasn't a manager questioning the fact they weren't checking in any work

Burgi

@djsmiley2k my boss has admitted fault in that

with regards to the debt collectors, i think they have got confused. there is a company in NYC with the same name as us and also operate in the marketing sector but have terrible reputation in NYC

allquixotic

2011 (when I hired on): you absolutely may not work from home, both because we don't want you to, and because the customer says you can't
(time passes)
2012: Boss: "Uh, you can work on that document over the weekend. We'll come into the office together."
2013: Boss: "Uh, you can work on that document over the weekend." Me: "How can I do that if I can't work from home?" Boss: "... You can use your own computer, but DON'T TELL ANYONE!"
2014: You can casually work on some of your normal assignments from home as long as they don't require resources on the network.

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