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> On 17 August 2017 Freenode suffered from a "fairly extensive spambot attack ... containing child pornography images." In the midst of combating the attack, the operators accidentally set a K-Line banning most users of the network.[31]

._.

user226528

5:37 AM

Amusingly, these phishing attempts alleging to be from Apple don't seem to stop. I probably shouldn't let my guards down.

user226528

5:50 AM

Ugh. As far as I remember, Outlook.com has offered the ugliest possible themes. It is as if Microsoft aims the maintain a very low bar for quality and beauty.

rahuldottech

8:04 AM

@Hennes What's the point of posts like this though?

user226528

@rahuldottech I think the post can be rewritten into a valid question. The question is: One or more folder is relocated by accident to a new subfolder. (Buggy scripts could do that.) Is there a way to find out what and which?

rahuldottech

@FleetCommand That post was not written by a human

user226528

Shadow Copy in Windows 7 helped solve a very similar problem.

user226528

@rahuldottech What do you mean? Elaborate please.

rahuldottech

> (I believe it was the result of a sticky mouse key(s) not breaking contact immediately during a drag & drop operation; flushing with electrical circuit cleaner has helped, but I may need to replace it, a prized possession decaled with the US Flag).

@FleetCommand It was written by a bot

user226528

8:13 AM

How do you know that?

rahuldottech

@FleetCommand Read the language? ^

user226528

I did. But again, how do you know this is written by a bot? Is there a definite feature of it not found in human language?

rahuldottech

Yeah, I'm done here.

I'm seriously not up for stupid arguments right now

user226528

Very well. But I've seen my fair share of bad writing and vandalism in English Wikipedia. I am not hasty to judge this as "written by a bot".

user226528

AFK

user226528

9:14 AM

@allquixotic To understand your joke, I read the articles on P, NP, NP-completeness, NP-hardness and P=NP. Then, I gave myself a cookie for all this effort. 😉 Then, I put the cookie back in the jar because, I still don't get it.

djsmiley2k

Coffee is a diauretic

it makes you P(ee)

(a)N(d)P (a)N(d)P (a)N(d)P (a)N(d)P

I'd suggest it's written by a bot due to what appears to be structuring of language of a non-native speaker, coupled with the fact they claim their mouse, which is a 'prized possession' is decaled with the US flag.

It appears to be written using markov chains

why do I think so? Experience.

user226528

@djsmiley2k Ew.

user226528

@djsmiley2k Okay. I can live with that.

user226528

Although, what would be the motivation of designing a bot that contributes to SU?

user226528

I can understand the SU contribution might have been a test, not the ultimate objective.

user226528

9:26 AM

Also, I do understand that "electrical circuit cleaner" isn't something with which one can flush something else. And people might still be non-native Americans and have prized possessions decaled with US flags. But I maintain they must have taken better care of such prized possessions. This is not ordinary.

djsmiley2k

it's not, it's testing the bot for being accepted as 'human'

user226528

6 mins ago, by Fleet Command

I can understand the SU contribution might have been a test, not the ultimate objective.

djsmiley2k

yup

eitherway, the question is broken lol

user226528

Again, drawing on my experiences from a horrible place called the English Wikipedia, being accepted as human is only half of their problem. And the easier half.

djsmiley2k

yup, writing stuff of use is had

user226528

9:33 AM

I remember an episode of The Big Bang Theory in which each of the group told a story to Howard, one of which was supposedly true.

user226528

I was certain that Amy's story was the true one, because it was the only one that had authentication data embedded in it.

user226528

It was a great risk for Amy to make up such a story that Howard could easily verifying using those data.

djsmiley2k

10:05 AM

hm ok

user226528

Of course, bots can be connected to a data source, so that they can embed authentication data in their messages. But this works in limited cases.

user226528

Pertinence is the biggest problem.

user226528

...which raises the interesting question of whether @Burgi is a bot, because pertinence has always been absent from his message every time it has been about a girl, woman or female being in general. 😜

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand YOU COULD BE A BOT.

user226528

@JourneymanGeek I am a Cyborg, dear!

Journeyman Geek

10:17 AM

I mean, how do we know you've not been replaced by ~~a pod person~~ a very small shell script?

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Oh, I am! I am a computer-assisted biologically augmented lifeform.

Journeyman Geek

10:40 AM

ITS A POD PERSON BOT!

rahuldottech

11:04 AM

@FleetCommand Notice how that was my question

3 hours ago, by rahuldottech

@Hennes What's the point of posts like this though?

@Hennes pointed out that it was written by a bot, and I asked what purpose it served...

djsmiley2k

2 hours ago, by Fleet Command

6 mins ago, by Fleet Command

I can understand the SU contribution might have been a test, not the ultimate objective.

user226528

11:57 AM

So, CABAL was cool.

rahuldottech

> One million visitors spending five minutes on a website would result in a total of $64 of monero being mined. The 5,000 UK government machines that were infected using Coinhive netted a paltry $24 in monero. Browser mining cryptocurrency, be it on a permissioned or permissionless basis, is unprofitable

Very, very interesting

@Bob Remember a few months ago I linked a service which allowed pro features without ads in exchange for being able to use some CPU resources for mining through the browser?

Doesn't look like it would be able to make ~~much~~ any profit

user226528

12:13 PM

@rahuldottech It depends whether those who do it read this kind of articles or not.

Journeyman Geek

Other than that it dosen't cost anything to the people getting the cryptocurrency

user226528

It is risk-free too. I mean it's not like they are communicating with pod people, so they are not exposed to the risks to which Journeyman Geek is exposed. 😉

Journeyman Geek

naw, they don't have pod people dogs.

user226528

Wouldn't that be cool!?

Bob

12:40 PM

@rahuldottech More relevant is it results in probably $$$$ of electricity costs and associated pollution.

The whole idea is stupid.

As I said back then.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that it is ;p

But so is cryptocurrency as a whole as its done now

user226528

Okay, this is very disturbing: My translation service website homepage now shows nothing but a large sign that reads: "Would you date a Russian woman?" Either the website is permanently closed and the domain parked, or else it is a very bad advertising mistake.

user226528

Usually, it is the former, but I've never seen this happen overnight. There has always been an interim period of 404, 403 or 502 errors which seemed to have no reasons.

Journeyman Geek

2:30 PM

....

Looks like I'm not the only one ;)

@allquixotic ^^^

bwDraco

anandtech.com/show/12624/…

@JourneymanGeek Should I stop caring about spelling or grammar correctness, at least in chat?

Mar 13 '16 at 15:32, by bwDraco

It should not be a leap of faith to post an answer. I just need to relax.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco naw, you just need to pick up on context better ;)

Notice how the opening has a half joking strike out, and references to past and current facists.... in terms of pedantry of language...

(aka, I'm rarely offended by people correcting my spelling and grammar)

also I MAKE FUNNY.

bwDraco

...and I think I've said this before, but my not having a sense of humor is not only boring, it actually creates disruption.

(although this sort of disruption has been mostly avoided over the last couple of months)

Apr 1 at 12:06, by bwDraco

No more April Fools for me. April 1 isn't a special day.

Feb 9 '17 at 22:03, by bwDraco

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Q: New badge proposal for commenting on a heavily downvoted question that is later deleted by the OP

I know this is a bit of a joke, but allquixotic suggested a badge for commenting on a heavily downvoted question (-3 or below) which is subsequently deleted by the post author: "Bully" badge wanted :P Comment on a question with score -3 or lower and the OP deletes it less than an hour later ...

I can point to more examples, but that would cause more harm than good.

Any ideas?

Journeyman Geek

Yes it would

lol

"I didn't get that - oh ok!"

Especially since I don't know how many people even noticed the letter switcheroo

Quite literally - you can't get every inside joke, and its fine not to get some of them

Say, RUN AWAAAYYYYY!

Quite literally only @Bob and @allquixotic have ever heard me say that ;)

bwDraco

2:48 PM

That's not really the issue. I kinda think I need to learn to post more funny.

Journeyman Geek

You can't force funny

bwDraco

:P

bwDraco

So... on to another topic, somewhat related to this. When my parents remind me of things, sometimes I get annoyed and start acting like a jerk.

I often say things like "I don't need to be reminded" or "I already know" or even "I can handle this on my own".

Journeyman Geek

How about "Ok?"

Or better yet "Oh, that's done!"

bwDraco

3:04 PM

The danger of this arrogant attitude has been recognized for quite some time. In July 2017, I had determined that if this was left unchecked, I could become progressively more willing to do things that are wrong, possibly even commit crimes. The idea is that I could wind up developing a "I can do whatever I want, I don't care" attitude.

As such, this issue is taken very, very seriously, but I've only managed to prevent it from getting worse, not make it any better.

Journeyman Geek

see, that's overanalysing things

I think you can break it down into a simple binary tree.

"Am I being an ass?"

"Yes?" Stop being an ass

"no?" Yay!

jokerdino

3:18 PM

hi

DavidPostill

ho

bwDraco

lo

So... on the English language. The English I see here is quite different than the English we use here, because most regular here are not American.

In most places where English is used, it's British, or Commonwealth, English. American English is mostly limited to the United States.

This was reinforced by our time in Hong Kong, which uses English in many places; as a former British colony, this is naturally British English.

This has led me to feel that American English per se is not a globally accepted language.

Your thoughts?

I think our schoolchildren should be taught at least a minimal amount of the British dialect so that people can converse more effectively in other English-speaking countries.

jokerdino

doesn't seem necessary

DavidPostill

@bwDraco There is also International English - which is what we should all be using ;) - as per my answer (shameless plug):

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A: Is the Concise Oxford Dictionary British English?

English spelling should follow the Concise Oxford Dictionary The Concise Oxford English Dictionary, was formally known as the Concise Oxford Dictionary: The Concise Oxford English Dictionary (officially titled The Concise Oxford Dictionary until 2002, and widely abbreviated COD or COED) ...

bwDraco

Heh.

DavidPostill

3:27 PM

> This dictionary is aimed at International English usage rather than British English, although:

In addition to providing information for general use, it documents local variations such as United States and United Kingdom usage."

And

> Its 12th edition, published in 2011, is used by both the United Nations and NATO as the current authority for spellings in documents written in English for international use.

bwDraco

That's actually an interesting idea.

DavidPostill

You will end up with a bunch of very confused children. Think lorry/truck, vest/waistcoat, trunk/boot, bonnet/hood, lift/elevator, flat/apartment, biscuit/scone/cookie, bathroom/toilet, soccer/football, fanny/(rude word)/behind, spanner/wrench and many many more.

It's pretty much like learning a foreign language ...

jokerdino

it's not really a foreign language..

Burgi

hmmm...

jokerdino

hi Burgi

Burgi

3:38 PM

i've managed to get my kerbal stuck inside a cargo container

jokerdino

blow it up

Burgi

i'll try

also the neighbour who has had all night parties the past two weekends has a load of guys at her flat again...

Risto Novik

Hello any happy Windows users in this chat as well?

DavidPostill

This conversation reminds me of a Belgian friend (who actually speaks reasonable international English) but made the following howlers:

1/ In the pub asking me outside for a shag - shag is Belgian for tobacco - she was inviting me to go outside for a smoke, and

2/ At a dinner party to celebrate the wedding anniversary of her potential in-laws making a toast and saying "up yours" instead of "bottoms up"

:)

@RistoNovik Yes. Still happily running Windows7 :)

@Burgi Hmm. One female neighbour and loads of guys?

Burgi

@DavidPostill apparently so

@DavidPostill that is brilliant!

@DavidPostill read into that what you will

DavidPostill

3:47 PM

@Burgi Absolutely true. I still tease her about it occasionally :)

Burgi

this is the one that was naked, leaning out of the window smoking a few months ago

DavidPostill

@Burgi Ah. I wonder how she earns her living?

Burgi

that had crossed my mind too

djsmiley2k

4:17 PM

@Burgi Twss.

Burgi

i was wondering who tess was...

djsmiley2k

Also apparently a woman who once lived in our house was employed in a similar way

She'd be seen regularly just hanging around topless in the living room on full view

Also socialising is hard :/

Send help. I'm done.

Burgi

intriguingly her bedroom blinds and window has now shut

but there are still 3 or 4 guys in her living room

i think @DavidPostill might be on to something

they could be just playing D&D but i really doubt it

Risto Novik

4:42 PM

I try to debug my friends laptop issue Lenova flex 2d-15(comes with windows 8.1), the issue is that by moving mouse or touchpad cause some strange freeze for 2/3 seconds. Although no cpu spikes in task manager, maybe just doesn't register this.

disabled the mouse drivers tested with external usb mouse

Burgi

does the freeze occur if an external display is used?

Risto Novik

everything works well in safe mode

allquixotic

@RistoNovik is it still running Windows 8.1 or has it been upgraded to Windows 10?

bwDraco

@DavidPostill lol

Risto Novik

it using windows 10

Burgi

4:44 PM

run a malware scan?

Risto Novik

did also windows reinstall

didn't help my best guess is that some issue with drivers but not able to find out which cause that issue

@Burgi already done that, basically also it has now clean install

also tested with driver verify, but no luck with that

Burgi

any updated drivers on the lenovo website for the chipset, etc?

Risto Novik

yep one option would be to go through all the new drivers provided by lenova

Burgi

right i'm off for a week, have fun everyone!

bertieb

5:15 PM

@DavidPostill ISTR a joke in Yes, Minister about someone using that in response to a 'Cheers!'

Or at least ISTR Paul Eddington looking startled when he got that in reply

My Google-fu is turning up no results

Ah no wait, I think it was Fawlty Towers in fact

The Wedding Anniversary

So it would have been John Cleese doing a double-take

> Nice to see you both.
> Cheers.
> Cheers.
> Up yours, Basil.

DavidPostill

@bertieb Ah. I don't think my friend would have seen Fawlty Towers though. It was a genuine mistake as she had to have it explained. And the shag also. We kept that one going for a while as we didn't explain that one for at least 10 minutes while she remained confused as to why we were all ROTFLOAO :)

bertieb

@DavidPostill Yeah, just brought it to mind! Nothing like immediate feedback to help with learning though... ;)

djsmiley2k

6:46 PM

sup homies.

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Q: TP-Link Archer C60 keeps rebooting when I open a specific website?

I use a TP-Link Archer C60 AC1350. I use it as my primary router (the router that dials the connection). The device always restarts by itself whenever I open this link here. I have verified this about 10 times. I can download, upload, browse and even use the internet on my iPhones, Playstation ...

networking wireless-networking router

when someone realises you can cause tp-link modems to reboot simply by listing in html the filename of the firmware, and all hell breaks loose ;D

this is taking dcc send to the next level

djsmiley2k

7:19 PM

wtf

So I go to the windows update menu

'no updates, last check 19:37' so like 1 hr ago

I hit 'check for updates' just outta interest

and it finds updates.

I'm on 1709.... isn't there some big update coming?

allquixotic

8:52 PM

1803 is already out

DavidPostill

And Preview Build 17639 (RS5)

djsmiley2k

is that the big one?

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k STATTB ;)

djsmiley2k

?:<>>

DavidPostill

Said the actress to the bishop

The phrase "Said the actress to the bishop" is a colloquial and vulgar British exclamation, offering humour by serving as a punch line that exposes an unintended double entendre. An equivalent phrase in North America is "that's what she said". Each phrase is an example of a Wellerism, exposing a second meaning of what precedes it. The versatility of such phrases, and their popularity, lead some to consider them clichéd. == History and variations == The term, or its variant "as the actress said to the bishop", may have been used as far back as Edwardian times, and is apparently British in origin...

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